Rooting and updating xperia z ultra c6833 and other questions - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Okay so i just got my c6833 ultra today and its on 4.2.2 currently and i got notified asking if i wanted to update it. Should i take that update ? and also how do i root this thing ? and does rooting screw anything up like what would happen if i unlocked the bootloader ?

In my opinion 4.2.2 was already very decent. 4.3 just brought some overall smoothness to an already zippy device.
4.2.2 is easily rooted too, but 4.3 requires that you unlock the BL (losing X-reality in the process). Think there's someone here who was able to root his locked BL on 4.3, too - you should check that out.

jordy787 said:
Okay so i just got my c6833 ultra today and its on 4.2.2 currently and i got notified asking if i wanted to update it. Should i take that update ? and also how do i root this thing ? and does rooting screw anything up like what would happen if i unlocked the bootloader ?
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How do we know if you should take the update???
Things to note:
You will need to be on .532 of the firmware to root using an exploit
Root following the guide that is stickied in the general thread, also read the back up TA thread
.290 (4.3) is easy to root if you have an unlocked BL

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sgp321 .253 root by dowgrade help

Could someone point me onto a guide to root my sgp321. 253 via downgrade i havent found any for the tablet. Most guides are for the z phone. Thanks
nielo360 said:
Could someone point me onto a guide to root my sgp321. 253 via downgrade i havent found any for the tablet. Most guides are for the z phone. Thanks
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Dont think there is any sgp321 fw earlier than 253....
So there would be no way to root this model then i guess
nielo360 said:
So there would be no way to root this model then i guess
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I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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isimobile said:
I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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Confirmed.
Unlock bootloader.
Flash DooMLoRDs CWM Recovery and boot into recovery an you'll get root as a side effect. Make sure you flash a Superuser zip....
I just read abut it this morning and am contemplating unlocking, the only thing stopping me is the loss of bravia engine after unlocking with no way to get it back. Im not bothered about the warranty.
nielo360 said:
I just read abut it this morning and am contemplating unlocking, the only thing stopping me is the loss of bravia engine after unlocking with no way to get it back. Im not bothered about the warranty.
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you and many others (me for example.) seems like many of devs havent got sgp321 in hand so they're more focused in sgp311 and312. I've mentioned before there is paradox for sgp321.
# You can backup Ta partition for bravia engine 2 and drm keys.
# But you cant do that without root.
# You cant Root (yet) without unlocking bootloader.
# With bootloader unlocked you'll lost DRM key and BA2 forever. (you cant flash others TA partition you'll hard brick the device).
I've asked a question in QA if the mods can make three subforums for SGP 321,311 and 312 so that people wont flash wrong tft or try flashing wrong firmware in wrong device as every Model is reffered to Xperia Z ( I almost flashed xperia Z phone's firmware to SGP 321) its just disaster waiting to happen.
The naming convention used by sony itself is a bit strange when i try to google xperia tablet z related stuff i get xperia z stuff same with youtube. its tough finding guides. In terms of marketing it seems like an odd choice too. Xperia z and xperia tablet z can be confusing for daily consumers despite one being a phone and another a tab
isimobile said:
I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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I confirms the. Got ROOT this method.
tehSmoogs said:
Dont think there is any sgp321 fw earlier than 253....
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well actually there is but from xperia z smartphone (it was 10.1.A.1.434 before came update to 10.1.1.A.1.253 ). Furthermore smartphone has the same hardware as tablet (Wifi+LTE), the difference seems to be only in screen size, and camera. So if you take the risk you can downgrade to .434, get root and the update to .253.

[Q] Rooting Ultra C6833

Hi
I'm on .510 and I just got done reading through a bunch of rooting threads and had a some questions.
From what I've read you cannot gain root access if you upgrade to .257.
If I root it now, then upgrade to .257, will my root remain intact? I have screen sensitivity issues and want to upgrade, just trying
to find out the best way possible and be able to unlocked my bootloader, and achieve root.
Check my signature.
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Sashin said:
Hi
I'm on .510 and I just got done reading through a bunch of rooting threads and had a some questions.
From what I've read you cannot gain root access if you upgrade to .257.
If I root it now, then upgrade to .257, will my root remain intact? I have screen sensitivity issues and want to upgrade, just trying
to find out the best way possible and be able to unlocked my bootloader, and achieve root.
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Question for you. Im having trouble upgrading to the latest firmware version. Are you already on version 14.1.B.2.257? If so, whos is your carrier, and how did you go about getting your update?
Reb0rn said:
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From reading your thread it looks like you lose recovery.
Phaze1585 said:
Question for you. Im having trouble upgrading to the latest firmware version. Are you already on version 14.1.B.2.257? If so, whos is your carrier, and how did you go about getting your update?
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No, I'm on .510 but I got the message to upgrade to .257.
If you're already rooted on .510, install OTA Root Keeper (from the Play Store), then update to 257. You should (if everything goes well) still have root when it's done.
This method (with OTA Root Keeper) did not work in my case.
My Ultra has already rooted, I received the OTA update, but the update refused to install.
Every time I tried to install the upgrade, an unknown error occured and the phone restarted.
Finally, I succeeded to upgrade the software with root using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46803343#post46803343
hey all, sony xperia noob here, been reading the forums but i hoped you wouldn't mind a quick question. i got a C6802 that has .257 on it, and it still has warranty until late February 2014. is there a way to downgrade without unlocking the bootloader, then root(again, w/out bootloader unlock)), and then update back to .257 and keep root with one of the methods?
or should i not even worry about the warranty? on the phone they said unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty, but you know, they have to say that i'm sure. thing is, i figure there is a chance i could exchange for a replacement if i find any quirks.
thx in advance for any info/advice.

I'm surprised

I'm surprised this device attracts so few developers. Most devices have several custom roms and kernels to choose between.
I love the device. I had some tough weeks to get use to the size but now I can't imagine having another phone.
It's perfect. I can play with it for hours.
I will send it to some of the core devs in my team when I'm done with it so we'll get official SlimRoms on it.
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
quachhanthanh said:
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
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Odd thread choice for this post.
The answer is to read, read some more, then think about what questions you still have and search for them and read those results.
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Carbon is all u need lol
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After owning this phone for almost a month as my daily driver, I can see why this phone might not be so popular.
Sony does not seem to do as much advertising as Samsung (at least that I can see), and for quite a while this phone was just too expensive. Add to that the fact that this phone for most people is just north of being too big (I came to it after owning the Galaxy note so I am ok with the size), and if you own one of these, you want to use it a lot and even with the stamina mode turned on battery life can be a little short if you turn it on to play with it every 5 min or so.... lol.
On the other hand my S4 build quality feels worse and worse after owning this beautiful thing.
One final thing I can think of is that the stock ROM (at lease 4.3 which I am still using) is not very bloated and really quite nice. I don't feel the need to try to load a AOSP rom as much. Every time I pick-up a touchwiz device I just want to throw up a little.
quachhanthanh said:
Can u root KitKat? I am on 4.3 and waiting for someone root 4.4. And I love this phone, too.
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KitKat has already been rooted for quite some time! I am using 4.4.2 KitKat and am rooted.
Refer to Jackie's root guide. You will have to download the 4.4.2 FTF rom as well as Jackie's custom kernal in order to root.
Have you unlocked your Xperia Z Ultra bootloader? In order to root you must have your bootloader unlocked. It is very quick and easy to unlock.
Here is the link with instructions on how to root KitKat.
Special thanks goes to Jackie for making this possible so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
kanej2006 said:
KitKat has already been rooted for quite some time! I am using 4.4.2 KitKat and am rooted.
Refer to Jackie's root guide. You will have to download the 4.4.2 FTF rom as well as Jackie's custom kernal in order to root.
Have you unlocked your Xperia Z Ultra bootloader? In order to root you must have your bootloader unlocked. It is very quick and easy to unlock.
Here is the link with instructions on how to root KitKat.
Special thanks goes to Jackie for making this possible so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
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Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
blueether said:
Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
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I haven't unlocked bootloader my ZU yet. And I have backup my TA already. But I dont want to UB my ZU because I want to use my TrackID app. So maybe i should wait until someone can root ZU with non-UB one.
Anyway, thanks two of u.
blueether said:
Before telling some one to unlock their bootloader to gain root PLEASE explain to then the consequences of that action:
If you unlock the bootloader before backinf up the TA partition you will lose your DRM keys and warranty. You will also lose the ablity to use some apps that rely on those DRK keys.
If you want to keep these (or have the ability to restore them) you have to downgrade to 4.2 (build ending with .532) and use an exploit to gain root
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Your right. I forgot to mention that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty. Good thing you mentioned it.
quachhanthanh said:
I haven't unlocked bootloader my ZU yet. And I have backup my TA already. But I dont want to UB my ZU because I want to use my TrackID app. So maybe i should wait until someone can root ZU with non-UB one.
Anyway, thanks two of u.
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You can still get root with a locked bootloader, just read some... hint look for threads by [nut], monx and otheres
blueether said:
You can still get root with a locked bootloader, just read some... hint look for threads by [nut], monx and otheres
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Thanks for ur hint, man. After read some thread, I think I can use this way to root my ZU with KitKat: I am on. 136 rooted and LB, I will download KitKat zip of fnf and install it through dual recovery of [nut]. Am I right? Looking forward to your reply.
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quachhanthanh said:
Thanks for ur hint, man. After read some thread, I think I can use this way to root my ZU with KitKat: I am on. 136 rooted and LB, I will download KitKat zip of fnf and install it through dual recovery of [nut]. Am I right? Looking forward to your reply.
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Look for [NUT]'s 290 thread, it has detailed instructions I think, you will still have to downgrade to .532 to gain root first.

Root my Z Ultra GPe

I have a Z Ultra GPe running 4.4.4 stock everything never wanted to root until the latest 4.4.4 OTA due to the low speaker volume, I can barely hear the phone ring anymore, I see there is a volume fix but that requires root and that's what I want to do; root.
As far as I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong, there are two ways to root :
1. Unlock bootloader, install dual recovery, change kernel, root.
2. Use towelroot apk to root the phone without modifying bootloader, recovery or kernel
I have seen that many people are facing camera problems when using method 1 due to unlocking the bootloader in addition to not receiving OTA updates after using method 1 (can't wait for Android L OTA)
If I root using method 2 will I avoid facing any camera problems and still receive OTA updates?
If there is another method I don't know about to fix the low volume issue or root my GPe please let me know, most important thing is that my camera is not affected and I continue to receive OTA updates.
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Method 2 is the best way now that we have a root exploit. It wont modify the kernel/boot loader etc so should allow OTAs. As this is not unlocking the BL it shouldn't effect the camera (it is only 4.4.4 that this happened on), and you can back up the TA if you do ever want to unlock the BL. I would do a backup of the TA anyway as it will give you an easy root method should there not be one available on 5.0
in short: should work
Can you please elaborate, I don't know what TA is and why or how to back it up?!
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vivalamoza said:
Can you please elaborate, I don't know what TA is and why or how to back it up?!
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TA - Trim Area, It is where the DRM keys and other things are kept. It looks like this is what is breaking the camera in 4.4.4 with an unlocked BL. If you back up the TA you can restore it and thus relock the bootloader. There is a tool called TA backup linked in one of the stickies in the general section.
If in the future you cant get root to do a TA backup it would be handy to already have one. Then you can unlock the BL, flash supersu, restore TA and have a rooted phone with locked BL (and intact DRM keys)
Thanks, will back up TA and root using towelroot
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blueether said:
TA - Trim Area, It is where the DRM keys and other things are kept. It looks like this is what is breaking the camera in 4.4.4 with an unlocked BL. If you back up the TA you can restore it and thus relock the bootloader. There is a tool called TA backup linked in one of the stickies in the general section.
If in the future you cant get root to do a TA backup it would be handy to already have one. Then you can unlock the BL, flash supersu, restore TA and have a rooted phone with locked BL (and intact DRM keys)
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Sorry this may seem like a stupid question but I want to understand how this works;
If I root my device using the Towelroot exploit and my bootloader is locked and recovery and kernel are stock, will my TA or DRM keys be affected!?
I surely will backup my TA like you advised but I just wanna make sure I understand how it works as I am coming from a Samsung and HTC background so this is all new to me.
and one last question please (sorry for asking so many questions)
Do I root first then backup, or do I backup then root?
vivalamoza said:
Sorry this may seem like a stupid question but I want to understand how this works;
If I root my device using the Towelroot exploit and my bootloader is locked and recovery and kernel are stock, will my TA or DRM keys be affected!?
I surely will backup my TA like you advised but I just wanna make sure I understand how it works as I am coming from a Samsung and HTC background so this is all new to me.
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vivalamoza said:
and one last question please (sorry for asking so many questions)
Do I root first then backup, or do I backup then root?
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You have it right, your TA (hence DRM keys) won't be affected by the root process.
Root then back up the TA partition. You need root to pull the disk image off the phone, that's why GPe users that unlocked/rooted before towelroot are in the position with a buggered camera that seems to be looking for DRM keys.
Thnx again!
This is a bit off topic but will we get an android L update at all now that the z ultra gpe has been pulled from the play store
People are saying that it has reached End of Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pallavgarg10 said:
This is a bit off topic but will we get an android L update at all now that the z ultra gpe has been pulled from the play store
People are saying that it has reached End of Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We do not have many fortune tellers here. We should get it, but nothing is sure.
Pallavgarg10 said:
This is a bit off topic but will we get an android L update at all now that the z ultra gpe has been pulled from the play store
People are saying that it has reached End of Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Z Ultra Gpe released on Dec 13 2013. According to Google Gpe devices "traditionally" are updated for "about" 18 months. There is speculation that Gpe program may be winding down in favor of the "Silver" program. I would expect to see it updated to L but there are no guarantees.
google would be hurting their brand if they pulled updates after only 8 months. Would you buy another google branded phone if they did that, be it GPe or Silver? This is why I cant see them not supporting well in to L
Agree with blueether, Google will probably update the ZU GPE to Android L, but that may be the end of the updates we get
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[Q] Can I root but stay official?

I have a Sony Xperia Z Ultra, running 4.4.4. Is it possible to do a simple root (in order to make adjustments to the LED and sound), but not affect the stock ROM or over-the-air updates? I don't want to miss out on the official Sony Lollipop, so should I maybe wait to root until after that update is released? Thanks.
No, you can't get offical updates if you have your device rooted , although you can root your device till the new update is on the line. Just unroot your sony device get the update and then root it again. Otherwise try any other rom.
Ah, many thanks. I didn't realise that was possible. I thought rooted was rooted and there was no going back. Although I've rooted a couple of devices before, I'm still something of a newbie. Would you be able to point me in the direction of a good tutorial or website with instructions how to do a basic root, and un-root, on the Z Ultra? Cheers.
http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/unroot-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
I found it pretty helpful , instructions are simple.
t20mohit said:
No, you can't get offical updates if you have your device rooted , although you can root your device till the new update is on the line. Just unroot your sony device get the update and then root it again. Otherwise try any other rom.
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Is there a reason as to why google doesn't allow OTA on rooted devices?
t20mohit said:
http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/unroot-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
I found it pretty helpful , instructions are simple.
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That's great, many thanks. Can anyone help with a how to root page, please?

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