Hi
I am curious on how a theme is built using Themer, correct me if I am wrong. In a very basic way, here is the way a theme is put together
1 - create wallpapers in Photoshop, at the right size and res, with all the info, icons shapes, you name it. This create a static image.
2 - Using Zooper Pro one places hot spots where we want something to happen,: open mail, show weather, numbers of miss calls, etc......
Is that OK , did I missed something?
Fizou
Fizou said:
Hi
I am curious on how a theme is built using Themer, correct me if I am wrong. In a very basic way, here is the way a theme is put together
1 - create wallpapers in Photoshop, at the right size and res, with all the info, icons shapes, you name it. This create a static image.
2 - Using Zooper Pro one places hot spots where we want something to happen,: open mail, show weather, numbers of miss calls, etc......
Is that OK , did I missed something?
Fizou
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Hi, that is more or less correct.
Many new themes use a standard wallpaper so that users will have the option to change it without affecting the theme's appearance (such as text won't disappear).
Any one of Themer's built-in widgets can be used, not just Zooper, but you're correct in saying that hotspots are assigned to specific actions.
Lastly, icons can always be added if the designer wishes
Anything else you'd like to know?
ThemerSupport said:
Hi, that is more or less correct.
Many new themes use a standard wallpaper so that users will have the option to change it without affecting the theme's appearance (such as text won't disappear).
Any one of Themer's built-in widgets can be used, not just Zooper, but you're correct in saying that hotspots are assigned to specific actions.
Lastly, icons can always be added if the designer wishes
Anything else you'd like to know?
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Thanks
I will give it a try, what is the best size/res for an HTCOne?
Fizou
Fizou said:
Thanks
I will give it a try, what is the best size/res for an HTCOne?
Fizou
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Doesn't really matter, it's all completely up to you. We do recommend using a high-res wallpaper though if other users wanted to apply the theme, and they're using a 1080p resolution device.
How does a person create a theme and then use it? I'd like to have very specific things on my theme but other than adding to an existing theme, i can't seem to take away from an existing theme, how do I create a new one from scratch?
I know they say watch the vid but if you are like me you need to see it in writing,it makes more sense to me that way.Anyway the easiest way is to grab a theme and change it around/edit,get a feel for the program then create your own by changing wallpapers,icons,weather etc.A lot of themes now won't let you edit them I have found,however download any of mine and edit away they are all editable,as are a few more posted here but names don't spring to mind,none in my opinion are any better or worse than each other they just have their own little attributes that makes them unique in their own way.So go on and play around m8,it will be fun.
alldroid said:
I know they say watch the vid but if you are like me you need to see it in writing,it makes more sense to me that way.Anyway the easiest way is to grab a theme and change it around/edit,get a feel for the program then create your own by changing wallpapers,icons,weather etc.A lot of themes now won't let you edit them I have found,however download any of mine and edit away they are all editable,as are a few more posted here but names don't spring to mind,none in my opinion are any better or worse than each other they just have their own little attributes that makes them unique in their own way.So go on and play around m8,it will be fun.
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Thanks, I cannot stand those youtube videos that "show" you how to do things. I find them tedious and unusable. I'd rather just get some instructions, an application and let me do it. Yet, so many seem to post "youtube instructions" i write this stuff for a living and have never found a video more useful than written instructions. However, that's my bias.
I'll go check out some of yours.
I agree with your assessment that NONE of the themes I've downloaded have been editable. I don't want to ADD more widgets and icons to a theme. I just want to start with a blank canvas and let me do it.
Yet, if all these themes exist, HOW were they created? I'm really not going to watch a youtube video. There has to be a building application somewhere. Not re-engineer something already there.
One question, when you say "download mine" where do I find yours. None of the ones I've seen through the application say who created them.
mine and others are in the screenshots and themes forum beneath the general discussion.I agree fully with the video and much prefer to read it as I find it more followable,but again I suppose that is my bias too.You can start almost fresh,grab a theme as posted earlier,then delete everything,if the theme uses everything widget this is simple to do,just press screen and choose remove,then change the wallpaper by selecting your own then simply add you own widgets etc via the inbuilt everything widget (although this isn't as stable as it could be) or download widgets from playstore etc then add them,hope this helps apologies if I seem to waffle on.
alldroid said:
mine and others are in the screenshots and themes forum beneath the general discussion.I agree fully with the video and much prefer to read it as I find it more followable,but again I suppose that is my bias too.You can start almost fresh,grab a theme as posted earlier,then delete everything,if the theme uses everything widget this is simple to do,just press screen and choose remove,then change the wallpaper by selecting your own then simply add you own widgets etc via the inbuilt everything widget (although this isn't as stable as it could be) or download widgets from playstore etc then add them,hope this helps apologies if I seem to waffle on.
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Got it, will go over there and check them out.
sanjsrik said:
Got it, will go over there and check them out.
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Hi sanjsrik,
I'm the one who made the YouTube tutorial videos, so I apologize if they weren't that informative. Those were created in the beginning just to give people a basic understanding of what Themer was about.
Alldroid is correct in saying that starting with a fresh blank theme is the best, then just seeing what works and what doesn't. My advice would be learn more about Zooper Widget, as a lot of the newer themes use it, and it's brilliant. That's all Themer is essentially, a wallpaper, some widgets, and maybe some icons if you're feeling brave. We do recommend making the grid size quite large, in order to make the widget resizing easier. you might also notice that the new themes include incredibly detailed icons, these are in fact Zooper fonts, so as mentioned play around with the Zooper widgets found in the new themes.
If you need help/ideas feel free to ask, I'm always here to help!
- Marco
It isn't that the video isn't informative,it probably is but some people including myself prefer to read it via a text file or maybe a pdf file
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It isn't that the video isn't informative,it probably is but some people including myself prefer to read it via a text file or maybe a pdf file
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Would you like us to create in-depth text tutorials on our site?
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Would you like us to create in-depth text tutorials on our site?
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Marco,
I would definitely go for it... though I am more of a "hands on" student and for learning I need to hear the stuff (that's how I learned all the stuff during college - my wife reading the material and me laying down and just listening - damn, she was so furious when I got the same grades as she did... ;o]]]), the text might help you gain more audience among those "give-me-a-manual-and-shut-up" types.
You have created a superb product for the tinkerers so a step further in the direction of a superb customer/user support would be a definitive nod in the right direction.
I personally would like more short video tutorials on specific features, how they work, what is their purpose and the mechanics (Yeah, you guessed it, I am not that familiar with design and graphics;o]) and maybe a tut on the 'codes' for custom formats of zooper widget.
well and maybe few more videos with theme designers like the one you guys did with GeriArts would also be inspiring... ;o]]]
another definate yes here too thanks,would make it a more better product in my opinion.
ThemerSupport said:
Hi sanjsrik,
I'm the one who made the YouTube tutorial videos, so I apologize if they weren't that informative. Those were created in the beginning just to give people a basic understanding of what Themer was about.
Alldroid is correct in saying that starting with a fresh blank theme is the best, then just seeing what works and what doesn't. My advice would be learn more about Zooper Widget, as a lot of the newer themes use it, and it's brilliant. That's all Themer is essentially, a wallpaper, some widgets, and maybe some icons if you're feeling brave. We do recommend making the grid size quite large, in order to make the widget resizing easier. you might also notice that the new themes include incredibly detailed icons, these are in fact Zooper fonts, so as mentioned play around with the Zooper widgets found in the new themes.
If you need help/ideas feel free to ask, I'm always here to help!
- Marco
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I promise I am NOT complaining. I promise I am NOT criticizing. I am just asking the question, WHAT is Themer?
from everything I understand, it's not a true "application", it's a wallpaper that then people can add widgets that "do" things.
if this is the case, HOW are these widgets "locked" where they can't be changed in a lot of the wallpapers I've downloaded.
THAT is my only question.
Oh, and how come there's not a "builder" application for Themer?
sanjsrik said:
I promise I am NOT complaining. I promise I am NOT criticizing. I am just asking the question, WHAT is Themer?
from everything I understand, it's not a true "application", it's a wallpaper that then people can add widgets that "do" things.
if this is the case, HOW are these widgets "locked" where they can't be changed in a lot of the wallpapers I've downloaded.
THAT is my only question.
Oh, and how come there's not a "builder" application for Themer?
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No worries we weren't offended by your comments, we're just trying to make everyone's theming experience as easy possible.
Themer is a launcher. Just like TouchWiz, Nova, Apex, ssLauncher, etc. It's a link between the hardware and software, you could think of it as the body/shell of a car. The car can have a different shell, and with Themer, it's shell can be customized in seconds.
Calling it a wallpaper with widgets doesn't really do it justice, as a launcher incorporates your app drawer as well, and maybe some more features arriving soon.
One thing to remember is that Themer, once stripped to its core, it a launcher, just like the rest. By that we mean you're able to edit/add/remove widgets, change wallpapers, change the icons (icon pack support arriving soon), etc. To unlock widgets, hold down on the homescreen - Advanced - Unlock Widgets. Repeat the process to lock them, or alternatively you can go into the main Themer settings - Advanced - Desktop - enable Lock Desktop Widgets.
Whenever the widgets/icons are unlocked, this can be called the "builder" mode, as you can add/remove/edit widgets and icons.
Hope this helps!
sanjsrik said:
I promise I am NOT complaining. I promise I am NOT criticizing. I am just asking the question, WHAT is Themer?
from everything I understand, it's not a true "application", it's a wallpaper that then people can add widgets that "do" things.
if this is the case, HOW are these widgets "locked" where they can't be changed in a lot of the wallpapers I've downloaded.
THAT is my only question.
Oh, and how come there's not a "builder" application for Themer?
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I am always critizising m8 it's what makes it a better program,constructive critisizm always helps,your post didn't seem offensive to me m8
ThemerSupport said:
No worries we weren't offended by your comments, we're just trying to make everyone's theming experience as easy possible.
Themer is a launcher. Just like TouchWiz, Nova, Apex, ssLauncher, etc. It's a link between the hardware and software, you could think of it as the body/shell of a car. The car can have a different shell, and with Themer, it's shell can be customized in seconds.
Calling it a wallpaper with widgets doesn't really do it justice, as a launcher incorporates your app drawer as well, and maybe some more features arriving soon.
One thing to remember is that Themer, once stripped to its core, it a launcher, just like the rest. By that we mean you're able to edit/add/remove widgets, change wallpapers, change the icons (icon pack support arriving soon), etc. To unlock widgets, hold down on the homescreen - Advanced - Unlock Widgets. Repeat the process to lock them, or alternatively you can go into the main Themer settings - Advanced - Desktop - enable Lock Desktop Widgets.
Whenever the widgets/icons are unlocked, this can be called the "builder" mode, as you can add/remove/edit widgets and icons.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you for the constructive email.
I think the biggest confusion anyone has with your "application" is that it doesn't seem like an application. It really does sound like a wallpaper with widgets. For example:
* Is there the ability to add groups for grouping together like kinds of applications?
* Can I add my own icons for applications?
Think GoLauncher or some other such "launcher" application that exists.
sanjsrik said:
Thank you for the constructive email.
I think the biggest confusion anyone has with your "application" is that it doesn't seem like an application. It really does sound like a wallpaper with widgets. For example:
* Is there the ability to add groups for grouping together like kinds of applications?
* Can I add my own icons for applications?
Think GoLauncher or some other such "launcher" application that exists.
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1. With Themer, you can add in Smart Category folders. For example the Games Category, when you install a new game, it will show up in this category and then whichever theme has a games folder, this new game will automatically appear. This saves a lot of time, but you can also manually add in your own categories or manually add in your own apps to a category.
2. Icon pack support is still limited. If you have icons on the homescreen, these can be edited manually. Some icon packs are supported, but you can also set them to other images in your gallery.
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YES! I watched many of the videos and I'm still very much confused. I have specific ideas for what I want, and although I can figure some things out on my own by trial and error, reinventing the wheel is both time-intensive and tiresome.
Also, I am glad to hear that icon pack support is on the list. Although my plans include heavy use off the app drawer, I'd like to have the icons in there be pleasing to my eye as well as the ones on my home screen.
It's a great product, one that I've already suggested to several friends. I just am more demanding than the "average bear".
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j3nn said:
YES! I watched many of the videos and I'm still very much confused. I have specific ideas for what I want, and although I can figure some things out on my own by trial and error, reinventing the wheel is both time-intensive and tiresome.
Also, I am glad to hear that icon pack support is on the list. Although my plans include heavy use off the app drawer, I'd like to have the icons in there be pleasing to my eye as well as the ones on my home screen.
It's a great product, one that I've already suggested to several friends. I just am more demanding than the "average bear".
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
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Great to hear! Stay tuned for text-tutorials!
Hi.
I would like to have as well an written tutorial. Seems very interesting. I start now to play around with the themer myself from downloading a theme then deleting all a add my stuff.
Can i use all icon packs ? what format they have to be ?
störte said:
Hi.
I would like to have as well an written tutorial. Seems very interesting. I start now to play around with the themer myself from downloading a theme then deleting all a add my stuff.
Can i use all icon packs ? what format they have to be ?
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most icon packs by default don't work with themer,but there is a way round this although you will need to manually change the icons you want to use.
Download apk extractor from Playstore
download the icon packs you want to your device
using apk extractor extract the apk of the icon pack you downloaded,this file will be stored on your device main storage in the apk extrat folder.
Attach your device to your laptop etc,then drag the extracted apk icon pack to it
rename the icon.apk and change the apk extension to zip
open with your favourite zip program
then simply extract the icon file images
this thread helped a lot
I've been tweaking my phone's theme and i'm absolutely stumped on this.
I'm using the "Twilight" theme as a starting point. While messing around and adjusting settings, I deleted one of the dock shortcuts. Only problem is, I can't restore it. I can make a new shortcut to the app I want, but the icons for the theme are nowhere to be found. So now I have these really nice icons and one giant ugly icon that doesn't match, with no way to replace it with the icons from the theme itself.
Is there a way to fix this? I don't want to reload the theme because that's just avoiding the problem.
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I've been tweaking my phone's theme and i'm absolutely stumped on this.
I'm using the "Twilight" theme as a starting point. While messing around and adjusting settings, I deleted one of the dock shortcuts. Only problem is, I can't restore it. I can make a new shortcut to the app I want, but the icons for the theme are nowhere to be found. So now I have these really nice icons and one giant ugly icon that doesn't match, with no way to replace it with the icons from the theme itself.
Is there a way to fix this? I don't want to reload the theme because that's just avoiding the problem.
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Hi,
Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately the icons aren't stored on the device in a neat and easy to use way. I'll try contact the designer today and see if he still has the icons. Else the only way would be to restore the theme. Saving a theme after every big change also helps in case you lose an icon/widget.
ThemerSupport said:
Hi,
Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately the icons aren't stored on the device in a neat and easy to use way. I'll try contact the designer today and see if he still has the icons. Else the only way would be to restore the theme. Saving a theme after every big change also helps in case you lose an icon/widget.
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Thanks. It's alright if you can't get the icons. I like the theme, and I might make my own icons for the apps that aren't included, so worst case I just need to add a few more.
Hi,
There are some themes I love and I would like to use, but some details doesn't seem good to me, such as shortcuts. Is there any way to modify those shortcuts in order to make mine, but keep using the particular theme ? I didn't find anything about this...
Thanks for your help
AutruiP said:
Hi,
There are some themes I love and I would like to use, but some details doesn't seem good to me, such as shortcuts. Is there any way to modify those shortcuts in order to make mine, but keep using the particular theme ? I didn't find anything about this...
Thanks for your help
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Hi,
Editing a theme is easy - simply long press on the homescreen - select Advanced - Unlock Widgets. Now you can add/remove widgets and shortcuts till your hearts content. Then when you are satisfied with your theme repeat the process to lock the items into place
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Hi,
Editing a theme is easy - simply long press on the homescreen - select Advanced - Unlock Widgets. Now you can add/remove widgets and shortcuts till your hearts content. Then when you are satisfied with your theme repeat the process to lock the items into place
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Awesome, thanks ! I was looking for this during hours... Didn't find anything on the Themer website :/
Another question, I have sometimes a pop-up with "crash data failed to send, retry later", but I can't find where to send it, and the pop-up doesn't disappear... I have to uninstall-reinstall the app in order to fix that... I have a One Plus One on CyanogenMod 11 38R
Semi related question, is there anywhere I can download images of the standard icons you use for smart categories? I like a lot of themes but would like to change the categories on them and to do that need the images to match the theme.
Thanks
chickengrease said:
Semi related question, is there anywhere I can download images of the standard icons you use for smart categories? I like a lot of themes but would like to change the categories on them and to do that need the images to match the theme.
Thanks
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Hi,
We're still working on this feature, hopefully it will be added soon!
Thanks for the info