I recently heard that some rooting methods aren't all that great for rooting phones for e.g: when I rooted my s3 people constantly had a hard time hearing me speak when on the phone that being said what is the BEST root method?
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That would have nothing to do with it as far as I know. Root away.
The two most talked about here at XDA are CF-autoroot, and the kingo method.
Apparently the kingo allows to to potentially root w/o tripping the knox warranty counter. Which may or may not effect your Sprint warr. (but as soon as you install a custom recovery, it'll trip the knox.)
The other is the CF-autoroot, which trips the knox. Which may, or may not effect your Sprint warr.
The CF method was made and is maintained by our very own dev-extraordinaire Chainfire. Verified gold standard of rooting here on XDA. I recommend it.
Low call volume may be related to a rom you flash, but never "caused by rooting".
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But if Knox is tripped it pretty over
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No it's not. Mine works great with Knox tripped. Don't know how you go from rooting then to tripping Knox causing problems. Don't root then.
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No it's not. Mine works great with Knox tripped. Don't know how you go from rooting then to tripping Knox causing problems. Don't root then.
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Agreed. That makes no sense.
If you don't have a solid Reason for rooting, certainly don't do it.
And if you are actually worried about warranty, don't do it.
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But if Knox is tripped it pretty over
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Also, after poking about a bit, it seems like you could be a little more gracious to the people you are asking help from.
You ask a fair amount, get good answers, and rarely respond with anything but another question, and never say thanks or hit the thanks button.
just saying.
most members here are too polite to mention such a thing. not me.
polish up on your forum community skills, man.
or you'll find people start ignoring your questions altogether.
Knox being triggered has no functional affect on the user experience. If you have to get your phone at Sprint it MAY be an issue but from my experience those guys are so dumb they won't realize and if they do realize they probably have their personal phones rooted and don't GAS
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^^^^^irrelevant
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When something is irrelevant, one ignores it.
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But I simply wanted him to KNOW that it was irrelevant I said it for a reason. U want a prize for your statement?
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Nah, I'll just take your response at face value. Works for me.
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xxtavarxx said:
Yeah u do that. Run along
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Bye Felicia!
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He was the one that got in his feelings all about liking a status and replying on time and all that b.s, there are other things going on in the real world this forum is NOT a priority! You guys don't own the site if u don't like my questions, attitude then KEEP IT MOVING. Would have saved a lot of time
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Well your going to be shaking your fkn till the bihh falls off last I checked u have to give respect to get it.... move around!!!
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Well, there we go, huh? Thank you for so very succinctly proving my point, and confirmation that you've the vocabulary and social skillset of a preteen.
You're right, the people here in this forum, especially micmars as an example, don't "own" this site. But maybe with your exceptional observational skills you noticed that it's RUN by members, by users that create and foster a community of respect. And especially here in the Note3 forums, it's a small community of tight knit, well seasoned users, with Years of rooting/modding/general android experience, all of which have now seen you have no place here.
So you're right, it's irrelevant, to you. You won't be receiving ANY help from this community.
And insulting micmars? Hehe, you've made no friends with that. No one here is impressed with flippant BS.
Good luck elsewhere!
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Thread cleaned...
ALL users are expected to be respectful when they post, and use of the search feature wouldn't hurt either in this case, as there are plenty of other threads that touch on this subject already.
Keep the self-righteousness and attitudinal style of posting for the social media sites folks..XDA is for development.
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Well, there we go, huh? Thank you for so very succinctly proving my point, and confirmation that you've the vocabulary and social skillset of a preteen.
You're right, the people here in this forum, especially micmars as an example, don't "own" this site. But maybe with your exceptional observational skills you noticed that it's RUN by members, by users that create and foster a community of respect. And especially here in the Note3 forums, it's a small community of tight knit, well seasoned users, with Years of rooting/modding/general android experience, all of which have now seen you have no place here.
So you're right, it's irrelevant, to you. You won't be receiving ANY help from this community.
And insulting micmars? Hehe, you've made no friends with that. No one here is impressed with flippant BS.
Good luck elsewhere!
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get out your feelings!!! to sit down and type an essay is just sad
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get out your feelings!!! to sit down and type an essay is just sad
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Go root and boot loop ur phone already! Lol
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Here is my situation : I have preordered gs3 and sold my HTC one x. I bought note for the time being and love it already. My question is that if i root it and custom Rom it, will it be easy to go back to stock sp that i can return back to best buy within 30 days?
Sole purpose that i got this phone is so that it can fill in for the time being...
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ceo.mtcl said:
Here is my situation : I have preordered gs3 and sold my HTC one x. I bought note for the time being and love it already. My question is that if i root it and custom Rom it, will it be easy to go back to stock sp that i can return back to best buy within 30 days?
Sole purpose that i got this phone is so that it can fill in for the time being...
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Yes as long as you tell them that you returned it because you didn't like it they wont ask or care. If they ask you if you did anything to it then its on you to tell them yes or no. I bet is will be out by then and you'll be hooked. Good luck
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
Well these phones have a flash counter that can be reset i believe using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24145452 . Also in the development section, there is a sticky by appdroid that has stock flashes. Although i would almost hate to risk it. I think if you check out both of those threads, you may be able to make a better decision. Hope it helps, someone might be along here to better answer you sooner or later.
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Well these phones have a flash counter that can be reset i believe using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24145452 . Also in the development section, there is a sticky by appdroid that has stock flashes. Although i would almost hate to risk it. I think if you check out both of those threads, you may be able to make a better decision. Hope it helps, someone might be along here to better answer you sooner or later.
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Good point. I wont mention it by myself.
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Yes as long as you tell them that you returned it because you didn't like it they wont ask or care. If they ask you if you did anything to it then its on you to tell them yes or no. I bet is will be out by then and you'll be hooked. Good luck
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
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Thanks a lot for this information. I was looking for something like this exactly.
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Emotions are high, but let's pause for a moment to thank the devs for their commitment to making this device the best it can possibly be. Without them, we'd just be a bunch of whining babies! Thanks devs and modders, very grateful for any of your contributions on this upcoming device!
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Things to achieve.
1. Unlock
2. Root
3. Remove bloatware
Become N3 crack flasher... Raise it up to the devs
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Not to be a buzz kill but don't we essentially know based on the s4 that this won't be unlockable and potential non root? I would cry if this is the case.
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papaavi said:
Emotions are high, but let's pause for a moment to thank the devs for their commitment to making this device the best it can possibly be. Without them, we'd just be a bunch of whining babies! Thanks devs and modders, very grateful for any of your contributions on this upcoming device!
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Buttering up or just plain kissing ass?
We we'll see root. Bootloader unlock too but there may not be a way to avoid voiding the warranty with Knox. We'll see.
Sudbury78 said:
Not to be a buzz kill but don't we essentially know based on the s4 that this won't be unlockable and potential non root? I would cry if this is the case.
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Corporate sales reps have indicated the Note 3 is being targeted like the S4 for gaining enterprise accounts, so seems a given it probably will be locked down like the S4. At least for the rom hungry there is SafeStrap, but the catch there is you lose at least 2GB more of internal storage to the new rom.
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Corporate sales reps have indicated the Note 3 is being targeted like the S4 for gaining enterprise accounts, so seems a given it probably will be locked down like the S4. At least for the rom hungry there is SafeStrap, but the catch there is you lose at least 2GB more of internal storage to the new rom.
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This safestrap is intriguing. I'm quite okay losing an additional 2 gigs for custom roms especially when the phone starts at 32 and you can add apps to SD.
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Buttering up or just plain kissing ass?
We we'll see root. Bootloader unlock too but there may not be a way to avoid voiding the warranty with Knox. We'll see.
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Hehe, gratitude for a knowledgeable community
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I recently purchased the Red Samurai controller from GameStop but returned it due to the controller being super stiff and not like a ps3 controller. I then remembered I had a OTG cable from my old HTC Evo LTE and tried it out on my Note 3 with my ps3 controller and games such as Dead Trigger and Shadowgun run super smooth. Sure its not wireless but this method is equivalent to actually playing the ps3.
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Wrong! Sixasis app + PS3 controller = AMAZING!! Hahaha
No wires involved! Why wouldn't you just use the app instead of an OTG cable!?!? Makes no sense no me
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stanglifemike said:
Wrong! Sixasis app + PS3 controller = AMAZING!! Hahaha
No wires involved! Why wouldn't you just use the app instead of an OTG cable!?!? Makes no sense no me
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Not rooted.
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WHAAAT!!??? I would suspect that you're into modding your phone since you're a member of XDA, so why haven't you rooted your GN3 yet!? You normally root and flash your phones, right??
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WHAAAT!!??? I would suspect that you're into modding your phone since you're a member of XDA, so why haven't you rooted your GN3 yet!? You normally root and flash your phones, right??
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easy there turbo.... some of us aren't super hardcore... and while we know quite a bit would rather wait til root has an easier method... and has proven the test of time.... i think we all have a right to choose for ourselves.. not everyone on xda is rooted.... there is plenty to be learned here besides rooting your phone.. i've rooted every single phone i've had but i haven't rooted the note 3 yet... and probably won't for at least another month til the devs get things smoothed over and i'm assured of some things.... devs here are the best..... but keep in mind.. to each its own
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easy there turbo.... some of us aren't super hardcore... and while we know quite a bit would rather wait til root has an easier method... and has proven the test of time.... i think we all have a right to choose for ourselves.. not everyone on xda is rooted.... there is plenty to be learned here besides rooting your phone.. i've rooted every single phone i've had but i haven't rooted the note 3 yet... and probably won't for at least another month til the devs get things smoothed over and i'm assured of some things.... devs here are the best..... but keep in mind.. to each its own
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Thank you!
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To each their own? Think for themselves? NO, every one must do as I do!!!! Right NAOWZ!!!!!!!
Lol, I never said he HAD to root his phone, couldn't think for himself, or anything of that nature. Was just simply asking a question. Also, there is a LOT to be learned here besides rooting! I think learning how to root is probably the least significant actually!
I do wonder what you mean though, about "devs getting things smoothed over"? Rooting the GN3 is super simple, just like most Samsung phones are. 3-4 years ago, some Android phones were more challenging to root within the first month after launch, but the GN3 is very simple. What do you think the devs need to "smooth out"?
And that's actually a supercharger in my avatar picture, not a turbo. You were close though, so good try.
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Thank you!
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Lolol!! You need someone else to answer questions for you, really? And you thank them for that, really? Sorry, I didn't see the "Kiddie Section" sign hanging over the door. I'll step back out now, and no one even needs to hold hand, YAY!!
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To each their own? Think for themselves? NO, every one must do as I do!!!! Right NAOWZ!!!!!!!
Lol, I never said he HAD to root his phone, couldn't think for himself, or anything of that nature. Was just simply asking a question. Also, there is a LOT to be learned here besides rooting! I think learning how to root is probably the least significant actually!
I do wonder what you mean though, about "devs getting things smoothed over"? Rooting the GN3 is super simple, just like most Samsung phones are. 3-4 years ago, some Android phones were more challenging to root within the first month after launch, but the GN3 is very simple. What do you think the devs need to "smooth out"?
And that's actually a supercharger in my avatar picture, not a turbo. You were close though, so good try.
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Lolol!! You need someone else to answer questions for you, really? And you thank them for that, really? Wow....
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I created this thread about the topic above. The best thing you could do is keep your smart a$$ comments to yourself. No I am not rooted (as if it was any of your business to begin with), did I miss the memo that everyone on XDA must have superuser permission? This phone is not even a month old what's the rush. Also, No the other member was not answering for me he just beat me to it. Your questions/comments are irrelevant to this thread and completely asinine and they show your ignorance. If you are not contributing to this thread (which you definitely are not) keep your mouth shut and move the f**k on.
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I created this thread about the topic above. The best thing you could do is keep your smart a$$ comments to yourself. No I am not rooted (as if it was any of your business to begin with), did I miss the memo that everyone on XDA must have superuser permission? This phone is not even a month old what's the rush. Also, No the other member was not answering for me he just beat me to it. Your questions/comments are irrelevant to this thread and completely asinine and they show your ignorance. If you are not contributing to this thread (which you definitely are not) keep your mouth shut and move the f**k on.
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Hahaha, sorry you got your feelings hurt!
You created the thread about what topic!? To state your opinion, that you like using the PS3 controller through an OTG cable? OK, well I stated my opinion that I don't like using a wired PS3 controller on my Android devices. I did NOT get off-topic. I simply stated my opinion about using a PS3 controller, which is what the OP is about! And yea, you missed the memo that everyone must be rooted. Lol, did you EVER see me say that every one must be rooted, or that there was a memo going around? Didn't think so. Lol. Best thing I could do is keep my smart A comments to myself, eh? Lol. Feel good flexing your e-muscles? Hahahaha
So I should be contributing to this thread? What do you need contributed? You need others coming in here giving you high fives that they also use an OTG cable to play their PS3 controllers, because rooting isn't polished enough for them, and the devs need to smooth things out? Yes! All devs should bow and smooth things out for you! Lol
So here's what I've said in his thread (in your mind anyway) :Everyone MUST be rooted. There IS a rush on everyone rooting. XDA sent out a memo that every one must root. It's my business as to whether or not you're rooted. Oh, now I really did make irrelevant and asinine comments, true story. Anyway, I've got better things to do than reply to comments about you making up things that I've said. Carry on kiddos!
Oh, I'm gonna share this with some friends. Maybe even some public social groups! Just to show how "irrelevant and asinine" I am. Hahaha. Off-topic (again by me!), Thanks for my daily laugh!!
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Hahaha, sorry you got your feelings hurt!
You created the thread about what topic!? To state your opinion, that you like using the PS3 controller through an OTG cable? OK, well I stated my opinion that I don't like using a wired PS3 controller on my Android devices. I did NOT get off-topic. I simply stated my opinion about using a PS3 controller, which is what the OP is about! And yea, you missed the memo that everyone must be rooted. Lol, did you EVER see me say that every one must be rooted, or that there was a memo going around? Didn't think so. Lol. Best thing I could do is keep my smart A comments to myself, eh? Lol. Feel good flexing your e-muscles? Hahahaha
So I should be contributing to this thread? What do you need contributed? You need others coming in here giving you high fives that they also use an OTG cable to play their PS3 controllers, because rooting isn't polished enough for them, and the devs need to smooth things out? Yes! All devs should bow and smooth things out for you! Lol
So here's what I've said in his thread (in your mind anyway) :Everyone MUST be rooted. There IS a rush on everyone rooting. XDA sent out a memo that every one must root. It's my business as to whether or not you're rooted. Oh, now I really did make irrelevant and asinine comments, true story. Anyway, I've got better things to do than reply to comments about you making up things that I've said. Carry on kiddos!
Oh, I'm gonna share this with some friends. Maybe even some public social groups! Just to show how "irrelevant and asinine" I am. Hahaha. Off-topic (again by me!), Thanks for my daily laugh!!
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come on....you know the way you came across was extremely immature and over the top..... lets just leave it at that.... and you acting like your not ticked off when you reply really is just reverse psychology your using on yourself... you have many helpful posts... don't let this one be one that a moderator sends you a friendly message on ..... lets all just get along and be mature about it.. if you want to be immature start your own thread.... this thread unfortunately is basically a tossed thread so i'd suggest to the op to just do the stand up guy.. (mature person) and just ask the mod to delete this thiread before he sends a full page of unwitted immature jokes about how our feelings are hurt... its just a waste to the forum servers.... and i honestly don't know why i'm typing this..... basically because i treat people the way i would like to be treated.. and i just wanted to state that i think you was a bit over the top.. in the end op can stand for himself.. again as for the thread.. its just drama now less a mod can clean it up
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come on....you know the way you came across was extremely immature and over the top..... lets just leave it at that.... and you acting like your not ticked off when you reply really is just reverse psychology your using on yourself... you have many helpful posts... don't let this one be one that a moderator sends you a friendly message on ..... lets all just get along and be mature about it.. if you want to be immature start your own thread.... this thread unfortunately is basically a tossed thread so i'd suggest to the op to just do the stand up guy.. (mature person) and just ask the mod to delete this thiread before he sends a full page of unwitted immature jokes about how our feelings are hurt... its just a waste to the forum servers.... and i honestly don't know why i'm typing this..... basically because i treat people the way i would like to be treated.. and i just wanted to state that i think you was a bit over the top.. in the end op can stand for himself.. again as for the thread.. its just drama now less a mod can clean it up
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Lol, I was "immature and over the top "? You did read my first 2 replies didn't you? Now I'm using reverse psychology on my self? It did tick me off with the other members reply, I'll happily admit that! I was just saying that the Sixasis app and using a PS3 controller wireless is a better choice/decision. If that makes me "immature and over the top", then so be it. Now there's 3 of you thinking that I shouldn't state my opinion, nice. Guess I should just let everyone who reads this thread believe that an OTG cable is their best option with the GN3. Devs obviously can't figure out root with this phone, not good enough anyway.
Anyway, no one quote me anymore, and I won't get any emails about this thread. I'll happily step away from this thread for good! I've seen some of the screen names in this thread for years now, and have never thought negative of any of them in even the slightest way. Just realizing that an opinion which differs from the OP is definitely not wanted in this thread! Anyway, I have no hard feelings towards anyone on here. I'm out
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Cool. Same here.
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Soo how about them chiefs
Sent from my note 3 ya bish!
So with the OTG cable + PS3 controller, how do you do controller mapping for games; or is that done in the game itself? (if supported)
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easy there turbo.... some of us aren't super hardcore... and while we know quite a bit would rather wait til root has an easier method... and has proven the test of time.... i think we all have a right to choose for ourselves.. not everyone on xda is rooted.... there is plenty to be learned here besides rooting your phone.. i've rooted every single phone i've had but i haven't rooted the note 3 yet... and probably won't for at least another month til the devs get things smoothed over and i'm assured of some things.... devs here are the best..... but keep in mind.. to each its own
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Holding off myself .... Rooted and modded the poop out of my Galaxy S. Taking it slow this time around!
I'll donate 50$ to the first person to release a bootable AOSP/CM ROM
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I would like to think that works, but I hardly see the value of conditional contributions for work on this scale. I'm not one to think that only one means can accomplish an end, but to me that's an awfully small amount of money when assayed against the work involved.
I've seen AOSP builds done where the dev accepts no donations whatsoever. They do it for the sake of doing. I've seen it done where the dev accepts donations, but I'm unclear as to whether a bounty was the impetus.
I believe that time is the primary driver here. In time, an AOSP dev will take on this phone as a personal hell. Then you shall have your AOSP rom, and I'd suggest tossing the fifty at the man doing the unbelievable amount of labor involved. Perhaps offer to test, as well.
As noted, I hope I'm wrong.
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I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of roms out there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here. Maybe it's just me though...
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I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here.
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It's an outstanding group. We have some of the best devs on xda. It's a new phone, and I am proud of what has been accomplished. If the development work is at an unsatisfying level for you, then move on, please, and I wish you well. I hope you find that for which you seek.
Or stay and support the excellent work that's being done. Either is an excellent option. Give this group time. You haven't seen anything yet.
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It's an outstanding group. We have some of the best devs on xda. It's a new phone, and I am proud of what has been accomplished. If the development work is at an unsatisfying level for you, then move on, please, and I wish you well. I hope you find that for which you seek.
Or stay and support the excellent work that's being done. Either is an excellent option. Give this group time. You haven't seen anything yet.
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@micmars I would have to absolutely agree. Every Dev we have here on the note 3 is outstanding and always very helpful. They go absolutely above and beyond for what they get in return. I couldn't be happier with them or there ROM'S. I'll take quality over quality any day.
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I'm not knocking what you all are doing and I like this phone so far, I'm just saying that coming from a phone that had countless roms to one where It's not worth rooting yet is disappointing. And yes, I understand it's a new phone and it takes time. But I do appreciate what the devs do, it was not my intention to bust on anyone...
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I'm not knocking what you all are doing and I like this phone so far, I'm just saying that coming from a phone that had countless roms to one where It's not worth rooting yet is disappointing. And yes, I understand it's a new phone and it takes time. But I do appreciate what the devs do, it was not my intention to bust on anyone...
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Didn't think you were. I was, however, putting my thoughts out there for you and for the devs that work their butts off. Whether you meant to give offense is of less concern to me than those whom might have received it as such.
I do think that the observation is harbored by many, but I think the situation is as good as one could hope. Consider that this is a CDMA device, on the 3rd largest network, and a niche phone. It explains a lot of what you've duly noted. I think, relatively speaking, the level of development is quite strong, and will get much better with the passing of the new year.
Ultimately, I'm glad you are enjoying the phone.
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I am very grateful to the DEVS here. Truthfully if I had a decent Linux machine I would do it myself
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I would like to think that works, but I hardly see the value of conditional contributiofantastically. on this scale. I'm not one to think that only one means can accomplish an end, but to me that's an awfully small amount of money when assayed against the work involved.
I've seen AOSP builds done where the dev accepts no donations whatsoever. They do it for the sake of doing. I've seen it done where the dev accepts donations, but I'm unclear as to whether a bounty was the impetus.
I believe that time is the primary driver here. In time, an AOSP dev will take on this phone as a personal hell. Then you shall have your AOSP rom, and I'd suggest tossing the fifty at the man doing the unbelievable amount of labor involved. Perhaps offer to test, as well.
As noted, I hope I'm wrong.
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"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.
To be honest, I could take or leave AOSP. On my Note 2, I would flash an AOSP ROM but would soon start to miss some of the TW features that were native to Samsung phones. Sure there were some third party apps that did some of the Spen functionality, but none were as good as what Samsung did. I actually like the Samsung camera as well.
For some, saying "Pure Android is the only way to go man..." is a little silly to me. Those people are starting to become the Apple people of the Android world.
For me, installing one of the amazing Roms already here so I can customize what I want on the phone, plus a stock looking launcher like Nova equals the best of both worlds: The cool functionality of Touchwiz with the clean look of stock Android.
...We're growing. Slowly but surely. Patience is key in development. Extra donations of encouragement is good but..sometimes even the best motivating incentives can have hurdles because of the intricacies the devs encounter... It's a time game and most importantly it's about doing it right! Or as close to stable as possible =). Soon enough we'll all be breaking off a pice of our kit kat bars.
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To be honest, I could take or leave AOSP. On my Note 2, I would flash an AOSP ROM but would soon start to miss some of the TW features that were native to Samsung phones. Sure there were some third party apps that did some of the Spen functionality, but none were as good as what Samsung did. I actually like the Samsung camera as well.
For some, saying "Pure Android is the only way to go man..." is a little silly to me. Those people are starting to become the Apple people of the Android world.
For me, installing one of the amazing Roms already here so I can customize what I want on the phone, plus a stock looking launcher like Nova equals the best of both worlds: The cool functionality of Touchwiz with the clean look of stock Android.
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Sorry but for me pure android is the only way to go sorry I am proud to be one of those people.. Not a fan of bloat I will always be a Mac/Linux guy. I love simplicity and function...not a monster truck show...all flash and no substance. For the record I am not complaining.I love my note and the custom Roms I have the chance to use because of the developers hard work.
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"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.
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You'll note that what I wrote was speculative. That stated, I'd rather have the word of the devs you mention stating that a $50 bounty was that which triggered their initial foray into building an AOSP rom for a specific device. If you can point me towards that, I'll find it pretty cool.
I'll stand by my initial post, which averred that, though plausible, seems only part of the picture.
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You'll note that what I wrote was speculative. That stated, I'd rather have the word of the devs you mention stating that a $50 bounty was that which triggered their initial foray into building an AOSP rom for a specific device. If you can point me towards that, I'll find it pretty cool.
I'll stand by my initial post, which averred that, though plausible, seems only part of the picture.
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No actually it was arranged I believe that the donations would be to buy them a device..never did I say a fifty dollar donarion would buy there services. Oh verbose one
Verbose, Yes...
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No actually it was arranged I believe that the donations would be to buy them a device..never did I say a fifty dollar donarion would buy there services. Oh verbose one
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Yes, but from the start I did say that I doubted $50 was sufficient. And yeah, I am verbose when I measure my words.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019062
Just for a reference..threads not about you micmars... Quit trying to make it so...nonone cares if your wrong or right nor if you measure your words etc..the thread is about aosp on the n3. Back to the discussion please
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Yes, but from the start I did say that I doubted $50 was sufficient. And yeah, I am verbose when I measure my words.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019062
Just for a reference..threads not about you micmars... Quit trying to make it so...nonone cares if your wrong or right nor if you measure your words etc..the thread is about aosp on the n3. Back to the discussion please
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Thanks for the link, man. Like I said, that's cool.
Ya got me, you devil. I'm a narcissist, and love being reduced to stereotypes. It's the shiz. See, I made it about me again with this post.
And no, the thread is about fifty bucks offered for getting someone to build an AOSP rom for the Sprint Note 3.
Here's the thread that's unfettered by bounties,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46799089
Developer of CyanogenMod is developing CM for our devices?
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tonyevo52 said:
I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of roms out there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here. Maybe it's just me though...
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Well, you're used to HTC phones and them having a ton of crap that needed to be fixed or modded in the first place. Welcome to Samsung.
wojo797 said:
"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.
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You're welcome
The problem is you guys are failing to understand a few things:
-This phone is HIGH end, costing 700+ dollars.
-A lot of folks got their upgrades on the S4, HTC One, or Nexus 4.
-There are a lot more players in the game this time around. LG,Nexus 5, Motorola, etc. Much more diverse and people have spread out over phones.
About AOSP; lazerus06 said it perfectly. To install AOSP on this phone without proper support for its features is pretty much gimping the phone. I suppose there will always be the set-in-their-ways diehard AOSP fans, but for this phone it is ridiculous and irrelevant.
As for dev-fanboyism--the issue is that you guys overlook devs if they aren't your "favorite dev" which is pretty bad for development in general. I get it. You found someone who's work you enjoy and you want them to follow you to your next phone, but seriously. There are good devs here and yeah, there may not be 20 different ROMs to flash, but that's better for the forum. You're used to your old phones having 63 different ROMs all taking the same mods from the same people with only slight variations (themes, and maybe a mod or two) in said ROM. That's retarded. Nobody wants a clone of someone elses work with a different theme. Understandably, this can look like a lack of development for this phone, but on the contrary, it helps weed out would-be clone devs and hopefully will retain a good choice between a few ROMs that are incredibly different from each other.
As for kernel devs, I got into building my first kernel not even a month ago and let me tell you, these people are nobody to praise. I would never accept some bounty or even take part in one to pull someone over to build a kernel for my phone. Ktoon may be a cool person IRL, but online the dude has a big head and is terrible at taking suggestions, and fixing problems. For example, when I had the Galaxy S III on Sprint and had no experience in kernel development, I relied on other people's kernels and let me tell you, his was the most unstable, problematic kernel I've ever come across. I have on a few occasions tried to reach out to him via PM to get some of the problems, namely Bluetooth audio fixed and his reply to me was
ktoonsez said:
freeza said:
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freeza said:
Audio sent through my bluetooth headphones sounds like it's coming from a record player (cracking and popping) but all other audio sounds fine. If you want to fix it and need a tester, hit me up.
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Im not seeing that, sounds like a governor not playing nice with your phone or too much UV?
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No UV at all, and using the OnDemand gov. No overclock
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Weird. These phones baffle me sometimes.
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Now to me that sounds like someone that doesn't care. If it were my kernel, I would not rest until an issue was fixed regardless if I had the problem on my phone or not.
Also, building kernels is not rocket science and with websites like GitHub around, you can kang someone's source, patches, mods, and features straight out of their repository without doing any real work yourself. It is actually quite easy to do if you don't plan on doing any original work. So, please don't fool yourself into thinking some of these kernel devs are people you need to throw money at to get to get decent development work. Because, the best developers aren't the ones who can be bought over to another phone.
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Thanks for the link, man. Like I said, that's cool.
Ya got me, you devil.about sobering else. I apologize I'm a narcissist, and love being reduced to stereotypes. It's the shiz. See, I made it about me again with this post.
And no, the thread is about fifty bucks offered for getting someone to build an AOSP rom for the Sprint Note 3.
Here's the thread that's unfettered by bounties,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46799089
Developer of CyanogenMod is developing CM for our devices?
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Your right I actually did allow myself to get distracted from the original post and try to make it into something else..I apologize
I'm still lost on what features I would lose with aosp? Touchwiz? I use nova anyway. S-pen? I rarely if ever use it..and all your losing is the hover function anyway. I hav owned the s3 ,n2 and s4 and always used aosp. With variants like rootbox and carbon I really don't see what I'm missing out on? Other than Samsung and sprint bloatware..I mean miniN3 is proof of how much junk is shoe horned onto our phones by the carriers and Samsung. I don't change prls? Although I don't think aosp is perfect it is nice having that option. I do prefer the stock camera and video player.I amsseriously not being a ahole here I am just asking.
THIS IS A PETITION TO UNLOCK OUR PHONES BOOTLOADERSYes I realize this has been posted several times but it seems to have died out again so im restarting it. We are 431 signatures away. Sign here - http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...ock-the-bootloader-of-the-verizon-s4-sch-i545
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We are 431 signatures away.
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Away from what
edit: Jesus, just clicked the link... at least make a real attempt? what the hell is
"To:
Kwon Oh Hyun, Samsung USA
Daniel S. Mead, Verizon Wireless
Samsung USA and Verizon Wireless
Please unlock the bootloader of the SCH-I545, respectively. We wouldn't want this device to be retired due to the fact that the people are not fully satisfied with it in its current state.
Sincerely,
[Your name]"
First off, this was clearly copy and pasted... Why does it say "Please unlock the bootloader of the SCH-I545, respectively". The word "respectively" would be used if there was multiple things being asked for, with different details to each... saying respectively lets you know that the list of details was given in the same order as the list of things those details apply to.
Secondly, who is "We" in the "We wouldn't want this device to be retired due to the fact that the people are not fully satisfied with it in its current state"? Because Samsung DEFINITELY wants you to retire you S4 and buy an S5...
Thirdly, that sounds vaguely like your trying to come off threatening... is that really the intent?
Lastly... Is this a letter I am supposed to send it? Its like the description of this petition but then has a generic [your name] at the end where I would expect the author of the petition to have signed?
I'm on your side and I found more things wrong with your petition the the number of sentences it features. Thats not good.
Please don't come back and say "OHHHH I DIDNT WRITE IT". If you didn't, please don't redistribute such crap... really poor representation of our requests.
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Away from what
edit: Jesus, just clicked the link... at least make a real attempt? what the hell is
"To:
Kwon Oh Hyun, Samsung USA
Daniel S. Mead, Verizon Wireless
Samsung USA and Verizon Wireless
Please unlock the bootloader of the SCH-I545, respectively. We wouldn't want this device to be retired due to the fact that the people are not fully satisfied with it in its current state.
Sincerely,
[Your name]"
First off, this was clearly copy and pasted... Why does it say "Please unlock the bootloader of the SCH-I545, respectively". The word "respectively" would be used if there was multiple things being asked for, with different details to each... saying respectively lets you know that the list of details was given in the same order as the list of things those details apply to.
Secondly, who is "We" in the "We wouldn't want this device to be retired due to the fact that the people are not fully satisfied with it in its current state"? Because Samsung DEFINITELY wants you to retire you S4 and buy an S5...
Thirdly, that sounds vaguely like your trying to come off threatening... is that really the intent?
Lastly... Is this a letter I am supposed to send it? Its like the description of this petition but then has a generic [your name] at the end where I would expect the author of the petition to have signed?
I'm on your side and I found more things wrong with your petition the the number of sentences it features. Thats not good.
Please don't come back and say "OHHHH I DIDNT WRITE IT". If you didn't, please don't redistribute such crap... really poor representation of our requests.
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Hey buddy hop off. I will say I didn't write it because that's what I want to do. Secondly, maybe you should work on developing and attempting to better the community rather than being an ass hole. Thanks and have a nice day while leaving me alone so that I may do so as well.
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Hey buddy hop off. I will say I didn't write it because that's what I want to do. Secondly, maybe you should work on developing and attempting to better the community rather than being an ass hole. Thanks and have a nice day while leaving me alone so that I may do so as well.
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xda-developers.com
If you want to watch thats fine.... but Its an Android Development community. You reposting ridiculous online petitions is certainly not bettering the community and honestly if I can do even a little to keep us from being represented by that piece of **** I will have done a great service.
If I were an executive, and got a letter/petition written like that, I'd just dismiss it as coming from someone having a hard time keeping up in middle school (and who's parents were actually paying for their phone). Seriously, that petition is a waste of time and effort.
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Hey buddy hop off. I will say I didn't write it because that's what I want to do. Secondly, maybe you should work on developing and attempting to better the community rather than being an ass hole. Thanks and have a nice day while leaving me alone so that I may do so as well.
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Your hearts in the right place man. Maybe just clean it up a bit and make it more professional.
Also... go easy guys...a mod is definitely going to step in here and clean this thread and possibly close it due to the language.
I'm not taking sides... I get where both of you are coming from... just maybe could have been said better is all
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THIS IS A PETITION TO UNLOCK OUR PHONES BOOTLOADERSYes I realize this has been posted several times but it seems to have died out again so im restarting it. We are 431 signatures away. Sign here - http://www.change.org/petitions/sam...ock-the-bootloader-of-the-verizon-s4-sch-i545
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I think the other threads died for a reason. It's a futile effort.
I'm pretty sure that I read recently that the Department of Defense just approved the Knox security system. What's that mean? Samsung can potentially sell millions of phones to the government, who is not interested in phones that can be hacked. Now, consider the hacking community. A couple of thousand potential hackers. Which do you think Samsung is more likely to pay attention to?
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Your hearts in the right place man. Maybe just clean it up a bit and make it more professional.
Also... go easy guys...a mod is definitely going to step in here and clean this thread and possibly close it due to the language.
I'm not taking sides... I get where both of you are coming from... just maybe could have been said better is all
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This thread should be closed lol only a complete idiot would think that petition could work
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joshm.1219 said:
This thread should be closed lol only a complete idiot would think that petition could work
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Yeah thanks
history has taught us that this never works.
I know this is a pettion for the vzw and att S5 but this is a much better put together petition: https://www.change.org/petitions/ra...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
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https://www.change.org/petitions/ve...-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request#share
Let's get this all the way to president Barack Obama's desk!
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Skrazz said:
Let's get this all the way to president Barack Obama's desk!
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I have a serious problem with this country if a president spends any time dealing with something as minor as this.
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I have a serious problem with this country if a president spends any time dealing with something as minor as this.
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I have a serious problem with our president as it is lol
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I have a serious problem with this country if a president spends any time dealing with something as minor as this.
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Oh, I don't know.
It's probably a lot more challenging than fixing the VA bureaucracy or trading five very bad men for a runaway soldier.
douger1957 said:
Oh, I don't know.
It's probably a lot more challenging than fixing the VA bureaucracy or trading five very bad men for a runaway soldier.
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Lol
jake.99x3 said:
Lol
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Please let's keep the politics elsewhere.
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Please let's keep the politics elsewhere.
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All I said was lol. I was not the one to post it.
Make that 430 to go.
Just signed the petition. Mr. Hyun & Mr. Mead are probably going to laugh their asses off when they get it, though.