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lack of decent mp3 player on android for several years now is getting really absurd
there is not one mp3 player that combines all the basic features of other multimedia devices
features like:
1) folder play + choosing which folders to scan (not the player deciding my whole SD card is one huge mp3 library thus listing video game and gps navigation music files..)
2) equalizer (+presets)
3) visualization (album art is fine, but kind of static..)
4) volume control
5) music streaming
1) organising my mp3 library of 4+gb by using ID3 tags is nearly impossible since it would be too time consuming
i know mortplayer allows for folder playing, but its sound quality is abysmal - i have 12mb 320kbps mp3 that sound like utter s*it when played in this player, but sound fine in music mod
i know of one other mp3 player that allows for folder play and will check it out, but by the looks of it, its nothing special
2) probably the most needed function of all, i mean how hard can it be? its been 2 years now and until now there has been only 1 player with this function - its in beta, and doesnt save your presets, so once you reboot you have to change it all over again...
you could have the best headsets in the world, but it wouldnt mean crap without proper equalizer to tune them with
3) a gimmick, but a nice one, and a standard for, what, 10 years now?
4) HOW HARD CAN IT BE? instead of using hardware buttons, to have software sliders for fine tuning the volume
5) internet/LAN support
these are all basic functions
i have top of the notch android device (HTC desire) but it gets overshadowed by my puny 50€ (at the time) 4 year old sony mp3 player which supports everything on that list except for streams
i wish winamp would make android port..
concerning video support
if there were not for 3rd party developed rockplayer all of the platform would be quite useless on the multimedia side of things..
i love android, i love my cellphone
but i find it odd that even with its open nature, there are still basic functions missing even after all the years and numerous devices on the market
any notions on googles part that things might change soon?
I agree with your frustration. Coming from win mobile and pocketplayer I was very disappointed. Am currently using a cyanogen rom and it does have a dsp/equalizer but have yet seen a player with a comprehensive feature list. It was also nice to make your own skins and have a larger font size to see outdoors.
Have you searched xda, some pretty good music apps have been spawn from here, well members...
The whole sd scan is annoying, but I believe if you drop a ".nomedia" file in folders you don't want scanned they should be skipped, you might want to look into that as I'm not 100% on it...
But yeah, out of the literally dozens of music/media apps they all have there flaws I guess.
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Furma said:
lack of decent mp3 player on android for several years now is getting really absurd
there is not one mp3 player that combines all the basic features of other multimedia devices
features like:
1) folder play + choosing which folders to scan (not the player deciding my whole SD card is one huge mp3 library thus listing video game and gps navigation music files..)
2) equalizer (+presets)
3) visualization (album art is fine, but kind of static..)
4) volume control
5) music streaming
1) organising my mp3 library of 4+gb by using ID3 tags is nearly impossible since it would be too time consuming
i know mortplayer allows for folder playing, but its sound quality is abysmal - i have 12mb 320kbps mp3 that sound like utter s*it when played in this player, but sound fine in music mod
i know of one other mp3 player that allows for folder play and will check it out, but by the looks of it, its nothing special
2) probably the most needed function of all, i mean how hard can it be? its been 2 years now and until now there has been only 1 player with this function - its in beta, and doesnt save your presets, so once you reboot you have to change it all over again...
you could have the best headsets in the world, but it wouldnt mean crap without proper equalizer to tune them with
3) a gimmick, but a nice one, and a standard for, what, 10 years now?
4) HOW HARD CAN IT BE? instead of using hardware buttons, to have software sliders for fine tuning the volume
5) internet/LAN support
these are all basic functions
i have top of the notch android device (HTC desire) but it gets overshadowed by my puny 50€ (at the time) 4 year old sony mp3 player which supports everything on that list except for streams
i wish winamp would make android port..
concerning video support
if there were not for 3rd party developed rockplayer all of the platform would be quite useless on the multimedia side of things..
i love android, i love my cellphone
but i find it odd that even with its open nature, there are still basic functions missing even after all the years and numerous devices on the market
any notions on googles part that things might change soon?
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any notions on googles part that things might change soon?[
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-myplayer-lightweight-music-player-t2892233
Have a try with this music player. It's still in beta but it's my favorite music player out all the ones I've tried and has quite a bit of what you're asking for.
Power amp is still the best on the market.
Hi,
If using the default music player I get my car to display the song name, whenever I switch to another player (PlayerPro, Pandora, Spotify) for some reason it won't show the song that is playing.
When I used my iPhone 4S it displayed song names from all apps (Spotify, pandora etc.) The weird thing is that the stock app does send out the song name to my LCD, but other apps won't...
Unfortunately I can't use USB either with the S3 (my car doesn't seem to want to support it, even with the mass storage mod).
Did anyone encounter this and found a solution maybe?
Thanks!
Royi
I think it is an issue with the apps. I went to the PowerAmp forums and people were asking the developer to add this with an upcoming update.
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I think it is an issue with the apps. I went to the PowerAmp forums and people were asking the developer to add this with an upcoming update.
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Thought so. Weird that Spotify on the iPhone sends all the info but not on Android (same for every other media app)...
Hope they will add this soon...
Does anyone know if there is more extensive documentation on Music Square, or what application its based on? (If it is at all, since several features of the phone are heavily based on other widely available apps)
I've never been able to get it to work with anything but MP3s. Tried so far FLAC and M4A - both were recognised by the music player and play just fine, but Music square never detects them.
I just updated to LFB and it STILL doesn't work, which makes me wonder if its only supposed to support MP3, but its not very well documented by Samsung.
Anyone have either of these working?
FLAC is even weirder, because it will scan it and then when the file is already playing, and place it on the grid where it thinks it belongs, but it will never select that file to play in an automatic playlist.
As far as I can tell, Samsung had the algorithm lying around to sort music by mood from when they first released their iTunes-like media player, known as Emodio. They took this nearly forgotten technology, modified it into a square, then stuck it into their new music app. I have yet to find anyone who claims that Music Square works for anything other than mp3s.
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As far as I can tell, Samsung had the algorithm lying around to sort music by mood from when they first released their iTunes-like media player, known as Emodio. They took this nearly forgotten technology, modified it into a square, then stuck it into their new music app. I have yet to find anyone who claims that Music Square works for anything other than mp3s.
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It would be helpful if they at least said it somewhere.
I got a reply to an email I sent them today, saying just as much, and suggesting that I just use MP3. That's not ideal, and how would I even know to use MP3 in the first place since it doesn't say anywhere it only works with it?
Like I said though, FLAC half-works. It knows what category it falls into but it just doesn't ever put them in a list. Vorbis could be the same for all I know (or maybe it actually works).
I'm sorry I know this isn't exactly the place to post this, and sorry for the all caps. But I AM TOTALLY ENRAGED BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD MAKE SOMETHING SO SIMPLE! and nobody would give an explanation as to why!
First of all, I know your music players can in fact, play music files, I tried every single music player avilable, yes I'm not kidding I tried all of them, over 50 of them. Most of them will start and play music. But that's not what's I'm after nor the reason I am so enraged.
Here is why:
THEY WON'T SHOW THE FULL ALBUM ART!!!!!
The ONLY music player, I repeat, the ONLY one out of over 50, that shows your embedded album art properly is the Neutron Music Player, but it's paied and I can't buy **** from the country I'm currently in. and the beep version is too old the touch controls suck.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
What's so difficult? You can make all these more difficult features work sometimes perfectly, but you can't make this very simple task of showing a jpeg image properly? Many of these features I have no idea why they have priority over showing an album art, especially when they seem more difficult to develop. I'm just glad I don't have an android tablet, I can't imagine how crappy it would look on one of those! I'm glad I use the iPad and all of my album art show perfectly in full quality it's just fantastic.
- lyrics and time stamped lyrics support. what's the point? most of you probably listen to music in your native language, what you can't understand what they're singing? Shouldn't you already know most of the lyrics in your collection? this seems like a difficult feature to develop because you have to make a scrollable surface for text ontop of the UI. Isn't that more difficult than just putting up a picture? in fact you have to show an album art anyway! why not just make it show the orginal one instead of the scaled down crappy version? it's like 5 minutes of coding!
- automaticly download album art and lyrics. I just don't get it, if you have pirated music you're too lazy to sort, get on a PC and there are plenty of programs for that! why would you do it over mobile network on your phone!?
-socal network intergration. I'm sorry I never use any of these features, I don't see the point of letting your friends know what you're listening every 5 minutes.
- n-band equalizer. get a better headphone, instead of your stock headset. it's 10 times more effective than any equalizer. the math involved in this must be very difficult especially those that can prevent capping or smooth the curve. Why does this have priority over the basic feature of showing an album art?
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A good music player is really very easy! but none of them will got that tiny final step! It's pissing me off!
Google Play Music: all you need to do is show the embedded album art, and get rid of that stupid blue background, just make it black!
Neutron Music Player: get someone to make you a new skin without all those 2006 style 3D effects.
Apollo Music Player: have an option to turn off the altomatic download, show the embedded album art.
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ok I just saw another thread giving out a bounty for a fix. Maybe I should do the same. I'll also put up a bounty of $50 for a music player that satisfies the following requirements:
-has the basic functions of a music player (play, pause, shuffle, supports MP3/FLAC/AAC)
-displays tag information such as artist, album, title, etc. with full support for unicode, no question marks, random symbols or squares.
-shows the FULL album art embedded in the file it is currently playing, with good quality scaling method without stretching, and without size limit (at least not below 2mb)
-appealing UI. For example, Apollo. Or some of the Chinese music players. Or the MIUI/ Meizu MX defult music players. NOT LIKE PowerAMP/ PlayerPro/ Neutron Player. The album art must at least fit inside the screen, meaning 720pixels wide or more.
-Power efficient, uses NEON instructions.
-buttery smooth
-ad free
optional:
-has lockscreen (Jelly Bean default) integration with FULL album art embedded in the file it is currently playing, with good quality scaling method.
-shows embedded lyrics
It does NOT have to include these features:
-sort by album/artist/recents or any other categories. as long as it has a list of songs I'm happy.
-anything to do with internet, streaming, downloading,free music none of that.
-equalizers, effects
woo you got a new phone there, what is it? android?
yea, the HTC one X on the latest Android 4.1 Jelly Bean! here have a try! it's smoother than iOS!
oh cool! I heard it's also quad-core right? must be really fast!
of cours, browsing is a breeze!
how about music? I see it's got Beats Audio, is it a good music player?
errrr well it makes sound, if that's what you mean. but the sound chip isn't exactly top notch.
wait, what's that? why do your album arts look like crap?
errrr, for some reason all android music players show the crappy scaled down version?
What? why? you're been talking about all these high end hardware, the Infinity Display, the quad-core processor and the 1GB RAM. All these, but you can't even see the full album art? WTF? what a piece of ****!
Don't forget to add proper album track listing in order.. My pet peeve
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Sony device had cool media player specially Xperia S. It ported to all android device give a try.
Have you tried PlayerPro, its a great simple music player on Android. Fell in love with it after got sick of PowerAMP cause when you hit the back on PowerAMP it goes back to the library and not to my homescreen.
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Have you tried PlayerPro, its a great simple music player on Android. Fell in love with it after got sick of PowerAMP cause when you hit the back on PowerAMP it goes back to the library and not to my homescreen.
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It doesn't show the full album art. haven you even tried it before suggesting?
play doesnt use embedded art?
Ive used a few players over my stay with android, my vote is with google play music. jet audio player was pretty kick ass too but i didnt like the restricted options for free version(and it let the system dsp take over if present)
for google play music personally like the blue background, after all it matches the ics/jb theme. and unlike jet player, doesnt get choppy on lock/unlock and orientation change.
btw, embedded album art for google play... miss something?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47004548/Screenshot_2012-08-23-23-43-20.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47004548/Screenshot_2012-08-23-23-44-05.png
on the second screenshot shows why jb lockscreen integration and "FULL album art" wont always work. the jb system handles the album art on that.
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It doesn't show the full album art. haven you even tried it before suggesting?
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Obviously I tried it, you know heres a funny thing I use PlayerPro and it does show full album art
N7player does a good job finding album art, better than iTunes IMO because I export my library from iTunes using iSyncr and iTunes has failed to locate album art for several albums I have however N7 can locate many more covers that are missing once on my phone in addition you can tell N7 to place the art in your music folder so it can be made available to other players if you don't like N7's interface. i keep just shy of 12GB of music on my phone and i'm pretty happy with the album art situation myself it's more complete than on my iPod or iPhone.
you also need to keep in mind that all players have to search a database in order to recover album art and making sure all the relevant info is in your ID3 tags will help alot in getting the correct art.
You don't need to whine to make a point (which you do, or maybe not as it seems that you didn't dig deep enough in your pursuit).
1) Here's a surprise for you: mobile phones, and particularly smartphones, have their screen turned off when they're used as MP3 players. They'll usually be stuck in a pocket, not displaying album art. They play music, and keeping the screen on to show the cover art takes a hit on the battery.
2) Here's another surprise for you: few people bother with album art. People play pirated music.
3) And here's another surprise for you:
most of you probably listen to music in your native language, what you can't understand what they're singing?
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is an utter falsehood. People will listen to whatever sounds cool to them, be it gangsta ebonics at its finest, Levan's Polka or J-Pop.
What has value in music apps is not cover art: that's tertiary for most people. What differentiates them is usually format support (yes, lossless formats are not a given in all players), sorting algorithms (yes, people want to sort their music) and interfaces (there I agree that an overhaul may be necessary in the top dogs).
Are you starring at your music album art while playing music and keep screen on?
I think most people just play music while screen off. Doesnt make sense. The most important of music player is how they produce sound quality! Not album art!
And one more things is go make you own music player if you good enough or DONT USE ANDROID!!!
BTW I prefer Google Play Music.
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- lyrics and time stamped lyrics support. what's the point? most of you probably listen to music in your native language, what you can't understand what they're singing?
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Lol well i'm from Australia and you think I must love listen to the horrible crap thats the so called "real" mainstream western music.
Apparently OP doesnt know how to use android.
If you never used a Droid phone, then dont buy a highend one!
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Rockbox.
mihovil13 said:
Apparently OP doesnt know how to use android.
If you never used a Droid phone, then dont buy a highend one!
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On the contrary, I'd start with the best phone possible. Otherwise you miss out on cool things. I'm very happy that I could pick the best Android phone of the time (Galaxy S) when I started using Android...
Hzu said:
Rockbox.
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if only x.x
Am I the only one who found Rockbox a little annoying to use?
poweramp and playerpro both show embedded art
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Am I the only one who found Rockbox a little annoying to use?
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Really? I found Rockbox the easiest to use. Simple, clutter-less, no-nonsense interface. The default Cabbie theme may not be that visually appealing though. So I changed to another one. At least it's a lot better.
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Really? I found Rockbox the easiest to use. Simple, clutter-less, no-nonsense interface. The default Cabbie theme may not be that visually appealing though. So I changed to another one. At least it's a lot better.
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I felt it seems to lack the nice interface that PlayerPro has.
Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
danielfiller said:
Hey guys,
I've been using GMusic for a while now, but I always found it very limited and not exactly to my taste.
Does anybody know a better music player that can load songs from GMusic?
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not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
Trozzul said:
not sure if google put the music you buy onto your device or its streaming the music but you might want to take a look at cyangenmods apollo.
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It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
danielfiller said:
It streams all your library, and that's what special about it.
Apollo doesn't support Google Music streaming.
Any other suggestions?
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i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
The music that's cached is on your device, but digging through the files won't do anything unfortunately, each one deeply encrypted, believe I've tried
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i think there is a way to get it onto your device thought, i got one of their free albums and it was on my device even though data and wifi was turned off. dig around in the files maybe?
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There is a way to do that, but then I lose the whole point of streaming - not having the files taking up space on my device.
The files you found in Apollo were probably some temp cache files leftovers.
So no suggestions?
Maybe someone else knows about an app like the one I'm looking for?
Maybe even some plugin that enables players to stream from Google?
been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
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been trying to find something for a while with no luck... I think its a great service, and the app isn't even that bad, but sometimes I just need that music to stream through another music program for a certain feature or option... or just because I say so! lol
(Most of my music I uploaded to the cloud was flac, so it is played back as 320kbps... In some areas I get only 1 bar of 3g, and at worst music playback may pause for 5-10 seconds... but even this is a rare occurrence... Others have complained about the quality, but I think it's great considering I have the options set for high quality playback only and still don't have issues)
what I don't quite understand, is the talk of 'lack of an api' for Google Music streaming.....
However, Android app's for DLNA or other wireless streaming, such as Bubble UPnP, and this app which streams to 'Sonos'? wireless speakers: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.youtec.android.macronos&hl=en
They DO support streaming from google music - the actual CLOUD (sorry it bothers me that someone names an app Cloud Music Sniper and flaunts allowing access to google music, then turns out its for the OFFLINE available apps that you pin for offline access? Oh and shockingly there is an app called Offline Music Importer that works the same - except it doesn't piss me off by implying it can access anything associated with my music on the cloud!) /end rant
So why are these streaming apps like Bubble UPnP able to access my Google Play Music collection on the cloud so I can play it back through my home receiver - yet I can't get it to work with a 3rd party music player at all? Hell, all I honestly want is a stupid visualizer, preferably that I can set as a live wallpaper... but they only seem to work with 1 out of every 5 songs that plays.... regardless of offline or streaming... and that REALLY confuses me =/
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found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
THANKS! Know a way to pick output device for the Web based version?
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found this baby:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169761
check it out
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WOW! thank you so much for letting me know about this! :good:
I'm definitely gonna check it out and see how the streaming quality compares...
[sometimes it makes the difference between playing and buffering when using the Google Play Music app's settings for mobile streaming - the High, Normal, and Low quality setting]
Regardless, this is a good step in a good direction... I know Bubble UPnP app and even some file explorer apps could access cloud storage, including the google music account - so I'm glad someone finally incorporated that in a way that let other music players on the device see the cloud storage as if they were local!
As exciting as it is, I'm also cautiously optimistic... While this means that Google's All Access music service will become much more attractive and viable for multiple device use compared to it's competitors --- there will, of course, be issues regarding protecting digital rights. Already I mentioned the 'misleading' programs that allowed ON DEVICE/'pinned' music from Google Music to be played in 3rd party players, and some convert the file to a properly labeled mp3. Considering Google Play Music already allows for All Access subscription users to do the same to songs within their entire catalog (that is, 'pin' it to the device for offline play - which was really a surprise to me), this means those same programs can now convert the All Access music that is pinned to allow offline play into proper mp3 files.... Thus with some coding to make the process faster, one can essentially download any song they want from All Access and keep it as an mp3 - altho it is only meant to be a subscription service and the option to pin music from all access is just supposed to allow access to the subscription service without signal or without eating up data from a data plan.
I guess that means if Google Music wants their music streaming service to succeed, rather than taking away support for 3rd party players - they must provide an official API and a better means of protecting the songs stored for offline playback using a database and/or file level encryption for the 'pinned' songs. I'd hate to see the ability to use the service on other players be stripped and locked down even more to a single player due to these kind of concerns that Google surely already sees as an issue and is likely brainstorming solutions.
Question:
On the topic of Google Play Music, does anyone happen to know of a similar solution regarding Google Music Streaming on a DESKTOP ??
I have found gmusic (not the iOS app), but a standalone program that sits in the system tray...
http://gmusic.codeplex.com/
Some of the chrome plugins actually offer better features (last.fm integration, lyrics, etc....), but the one I found that said it allowed use of media keys didn't work for me...
This is the only one I found that allows me to A) not get my music player lost in a massive field of tabs, and B) change songs while playing a game!
The Main Player window, although, is nothing more than a customized browser window (like the ability to view webpages within winamp and other programs). It is nice that it is a separate icon not mixed in among other browsers, supports media keys, can be minimized etc ----
The one major thing I'm still unable to find a solution for, is the ability to select (non-default) audio output device!!
I have always had my pc connected to my receiver/surround sound system since I got 'my own' computer, so being able to select the audio output is crucial for me when playing music, as I direct the music through digital output to the sound system, but still want to hear other audio through the output jack.
Many times I'll have -Music through digital optical output, -Game SFX through pc speaker output, and -Google Hangouts (for voice chat with teammates) through USB headset.
However it isn't as common for a game to have audio device options as it is for a music/media player.... and always remembering to alt-tab after the games started to change the the default device is a major pain!
(Not to mention even if I'm just listening to music, I don't want to hear audio from a random ad... esp when I can't track down the source of the ad among my tabs, and it is blaring loud out the sound system along with my music)
Many people have complained/requested this to be a feature of Google Chrome - of course the Google team reading these complaints are thinking from the perspective of a simple web browser, something that usually has no need for such a feature...
However, plenty have brought up the issue of Google's Music Service being web-based, and thus such a feature is needed.
I'm not quite sure it is an issue that needs to be addressed by the Chrome browser, but it should definitely be an option within the Google Music web app itself - similar to how one can choose their input and output device in Google Hangouts, which is also a web-app run within a browser.
Of course, the best solution for me would be to find someone that has created something similar to GMusicFS that allows the music to appear as if it is local (similar to google drive's client) or if one of the better music players (Winamp, Foobar, MusicBee, etc.) had an extension somewhere that allows adding cloud music services like Google Music.
Anyways,
@danielfiller Thanks so much for pointing me to that app!
(sorry to any mods about how this post isn't -exactly- a proper topic for its location. Its just that Google Music is cross platform, not limited to mobile devices. While my question does not relate to any mobile platform, it is regarding the exact same functions the android app provides for the exact same streaming service.)