Hello all,
This is my first post here at XDA!
So Ive searched so please forgive me as I'm still learning quite a bit.. But having an MK2 GS4 - why am I only limited to using Safestrap and limited ROMS? Currently running Hyperdrive which is great, but found my S3 w/ IllusionRom to be MUCH more customizable and clean.
Again, I'm newer to rooting but why is it that everything seems limited right now? After reading and reading, it appears that developers are sort of dancing around voiding warranty and Knox software.. Will this be resolved at some point? I basically want to have the ability to flash some of these other cool aosp roms, etc. I could care less about voiding warranty's. I want all this stock rom warranty crap off my phone!
Thanks guys!
I'm not a developer, but it is my understanding that an unlocked boot loader is needed for the type of ROMs you want to flash. And the S4's bootloader is locked for every version other than MDK.
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Questions belong in Q and A, and users are expected to use search and read before posting duplicate threads...
here is some help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613161
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49493081&postcount=6
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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Don't really know how you can expect an answer to your questions. I don't know of anyone on these boards that can see into the future. Will MK2 be unlocked? Doesn't look like it, but who knows. All you can do is keep an eye on the forums and hope for the best.
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rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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This question you are asking has had countless threads and posts devote to the locked bootloader on the S4 since the release of ME7 firmware. Not to get cheesey here but asking if the bootloader willl be unlocked is a ridiculous as no one has an answer to that and dozens of devs have been working on it for months on their spare time. The only mechanism available is safestrap and we are lucky to have that working for us becasue sooner or later that will most likley be blocked down the road. If you want an honest answer, in my view, we probably will not have a bootloader exploit comparable to the one found for MDK. Devs are working on a Kerec exploit but haven't been able to find one yet. Samsung and other cell phone manuf are responding to the Carriers requirements of having an unhackable phones because the enterprise customers are making that a requirement. The hacking community is a factional component of sales and if you want a phone for running custom ROMS, best save your money and get a DEV phone as that is the most likely way to do it.
rmartin346 said:
Naddict, thanks for moving my post to the appropriate thread.
I apologize if it appears I hadn't searched. However my question still remains unanswered. I have read the threads you suggested as well as many on my own.
Will the mk2 eventually be fully unlocked? Will the rest of us be able to run custom recoveries and flash more roms like MDK at some point?
Forgive me if this has been answered, but I'm still pulling the newb card and have yet to find an answer. I'm also a little impatient as I my s3 had many more options available.
Thanks again.
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I have high hopes that some talented person or group will eventually find a work around for this boot loader issue whether safestrap(hashcode) figure out a kexec exploit. Or another Loki type exploit is found. The most current thread on this situation can be found in general and surge1223 is the op. But your right from a custom ROM standpoint the s3 is in a better position. Good luck.
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Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
rmartin346 said:
Thanks for all the feedback and again, I apologize if these questions have been covered or are seemingly up answerable.
As I originally stated, I am a newb. Simply jealous of the mdk guys. I'd like some more freedom and thought going from S3 to S4 wouldn't change much as far as customizable options. Guess I should have done more research..
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Hit up Swappa like I did and grab a MDK S4 and wait for it to come like a Lil kid at Christmas....
Which is what I'm doing. Or jump ship over to like... Sprint and trip your Knox flag and install CWM.
Or... Rob a bank so you can afford a dev edition S4.
Swappa it is..
Lol
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Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
k9time said:
This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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This is the best thread to learn about what's what and how to's!
Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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This has got to be the easiest method of rooting. It's what I've used on a few different phones and has never failed me!
Custom roms vary in stability. If they are based on source code they are going to be more stable than others. They will say "built from official source". Other roms can be just as stable depending on the developer and how much effort was put into the rom. You have to read the threads on the roms to compare issues if any, then pick the one you want to try.
The best advice I can give you is before you install or flash anything you verify it's for your device, and read the instructions at LEAST twice!
Welcome to xda ... I suggest you first read the xda rules. This is the general forum. Not for questions. There is a Q &A forum to ask questions in ... After searching.
That said ... Super everything thread is for you.
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Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
Agoattamer said:
That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
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Whoa, that's freakin bizarre that it does an auto reinstall of the stock recovery. very creative.
Wow, Thanks to everybody who got involved. I didn't know that I had this many replies, I just got a notification for the first reply. Thanks a lot.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread since I having the same concern, and before I get flamed. Please let me know which approach would be suitable to ask more questions while staying on topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
lousk said:
Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread, having the same concern, and before I get flamed at, I just want to be certain I'm not hijacking this thread. Before starting a new thread having the same concern, please let me know which way would be suitable to ask more questions on the same topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
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Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
sumchans said:
Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
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You can always copy/paste the link and remove the www. and .com then someone with more posts can repost it for ya.
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
sumchans said:
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
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No problem
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
440bro said:
No problem
Thanks again 440bro.
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Thank you so much for your replies and links.
I'll follow up and let you know of the outcome or if I have additional question(s).
You guys are great!
i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
read as many threads in General as you can
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
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Good choice, mate!
Which S3 is it? I see you're in the USofA. There are several variants of S3 in the world. American/Canadian S3's are the Snapdragon variant, not the International variety, which is what this forum is for. If it is not the GT-I9300, anything you flash from here will definitely brick your phone.
Refer this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
We can only guide you further once this question is answered. Good luck!
Oomahey said:
Good choice, mate!
Which S3 is it? I see you're in the USofA. There are several variants of S3 in the world. American/Canadian S3's are the Snapdragon variant, not the International variety, which is what this forum is for. If it is not the GT-I9300, anything you flash from here will definitely brick your phone.
Refer this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756338
We can only guide you further once this question is answered. Good luck!
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thank you sir. ! i guess i would be getting the non international version. :highfive:
international version has many developers than the other variants. once you start flashing custom roms or kernels or mods, there is no guarantee that your phone will not brick. flashing without damage to the phone depends on how you do that. goodluck.
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please let me know if i'm wrong and CLICK thanks if i help
SRIRAM
sent from my GT-I9300 running CM10.1 RC5 by Temasek
Yeah Make sure you're in the right forum for your phone. Follow that chart for your carrier.
Also if you happen to be getting T-Mobile,there is a new variant that has the LTE radio T999L which is a hardware difference and not a simple software upgrade. So if you did happen to get T-Mobile, hopefully you have the LTE variant.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
Hey all, I must first say that I definitely appreciate all of those that helped me (directly or indirectly, by posting threads, providing links, and helping me troubleshoot) root my device on the MJ7 build. I should have done a little bit of reading on here before I upgraded, but I didn't :/ So now I'm stuck with root access but no working recovery to flash ROMs or anything. I was just wondering if anyone has made any progress, or even started on, a working recovery? I would love to start experimenting with ROMs again, because I feel like the minor issues I had back when I had my modded Droid X are just about nonexistent now.
EDIT: Also, I should say that I don't know much about development or modding in general, but I am willing to test methods on my device because I don't have a deductible on my phone insurance.
SynysterX said:
Hey all, I must first say that I definitely appreciate all of those that helped me (directly or indirectly, by posting threads, providing links, and helping me troubleshoot) root my device on the MJ7 build. I should have done a little bit of reading on here before I upgraded, but I didn't :/ So now I'm stuck with root access but no working recovery to flash ROMs or anything. I was just wondering if anyone has made any progress, or even started on, a working recovery? I would love to start experimenting with ROMs again, because I feel like the minor issues I had back when I had my modded Droid X are just about nonexistent now.
EDIT: Also, I should say that I don't know much about development or modding in general, but I am willing to test methods on my device because I don't have a deductible on my phone insurance.
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Looking in the wrong place, there are already threads in development and Q&A:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529979
tech_head said:
Looking in the wrong place, there are already threads in development and Q&A:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon/development
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529979
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Whoops :/ As it turns out, I guess I need to learn how to internet a little bit more.
There is also some discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526591
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Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
asubiyyal said:
Ok since i have less than 10 posts I cant post in main device OS/Root posts etc.
Anyways I have a Samsung S4 Verizon I545. How to unlock it?
Gimme the link(s) to where I can download the ROM, software etc. And some steps on how to go about it. Also after carrier unlock/root can i do OTA updates?
And also what rom/software will gimme the most out of this S4?
I've unlocked two of iPhones before, so I understand the risks associated. Please try to help in simple english.
Thanks to XDA and thanks to any pupil willin to help.
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Click on your phone info.
Write down the last 3 digits if your build version.
If it is MJ7 enjoy your Samsung iphone or take the risk of Chinese infiltration with vroot.
If its anything else, type go to GOOGLE.COM and type in those 3 letters followed by the word "Root".
Good luck!
Doesn't get much simpler than that.. :sly:
Verizon Galaxy S4
# MJ7 #
ALL Knoxed Up!
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
asubiyyal said:
Ok So my build version is MJ7.
Is it unlockable through the ROM/software here on XDA or any other reliable ROM/sofware?
Please can you guys list the instructions or a link that tells me A to Z what to do. Thanks!
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You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
k1mu said:
You can't root using a reliable technique, and even if you root you can't install custom ROMs at the moment. Safestrap may eventually become possible.
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Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
I have MJ7 also and I've looked at root alternatives and it's risky at best. Let me know if you find a less risky way.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda app-developers app
asubiyyal said:
Just to make sure, this S4 MJ7 Verizon cant be unlocked to run on Tmobile using a reliable method?
Sorry for acting like a total newb. And many thanks.
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The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
k1mu said:
The I545 is not simlocked, which means that you can run any carrier's SIM. There are SEVERAL threads here that explain what you need to do to run an I545 on T-Mobile. Unfortunately, the search function is broken yet again, but there is NO excuse for starting another thread on a topic that has been covered several times before.
I know, you can't tell, but this is a very frequently asked and answered question.
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Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
asubiyyal said:
Nope i tried tmobile sim doesnt work
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Perhaps you could post on one of the T-Mobile threads here and explain what "doesn't work" means, as they may be able to help you.
Non-Verizon SIMs work for me, but I'm not using a SIM from some other US carrier.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
asubiyyal said:
I love this website, but I still haven't used it once because I search through threads always find answers like this. Its truly amazing how the website owners have sections for different versions and different hardware. But constant trolling by veteran users is common.
This(android) is an open source project but that doesnt mean every one here knows what people are talking about. I get discouraged posts like the one above^^. I have been using android since it came out on G1 and still havent rooted any of my devices YET. This time I actually thought I would but you know what **** this.
Anyways last attempt? Can my device be RELIABLY(trusted) carrier unlocked so I can use it on Tmobile. Thanks.
Also is there a thread where I can lookup jargon/lingo/acronyms specific to this site/genre? Link please.
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Sorry if you thinking this is "trolling by a veteran user".
First, you need to understand: the i545 is not SIM locked. Any SIM will work.
However, there's some question as to whether or not that SIM will allow other US carriers to work. Mine works with a SIM that gives me AT&T data. (It's from a European carrier.)
Here's how you can answer your question. First, look at the top of this window.
There's a box on the top reading "Search this forum".
I entered "tmobile" there, then got the following threads:
Tmobile sim and samsung galaxy s4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397984
Does the new MJ7 firmware update block GSM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523307
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
T-Mobile HSPA(+) on SCH-I545 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478411
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
[Q]OOC Verizon S4 on Tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
Okay I have a vzw galaxy s4 working in tmobile http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457568
Then, searches for "T-mobile":
[Q] VZW S4 to T-MO S4 - Is it possible? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513735
[Q] T-Mobile on VZW S4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464730
VZW Galaxy S4 can it be use on tmobile? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447312&highlight=t-mobile
Probably very useful:
Thread for using verizon galaxy s4 Sch-i545 on T-Mobile and/or At&t LTE etc. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427934
Using any one of those will connect you with people trying to use their Verizon phones on T-Mobile.
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Haha nice work you guys. I will try and then post in couple of days about the above solutions/links you all have given. Thanks again!
joshm.1219 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521485
That's the guide to use your phone on T-Mobile. It's on the first page of the general section lol.
By the way, the forums are seperated by device and carrier because that's how the software works, it's different per device and the carrier that device uses. This is a site for developers.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
Yes it can be done. Basic strps are to get a
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Basic steps are to get a sim.
Then go and see if it picked ip the APN settings. If not you should be able to create a new APN and put in the values manually. Search on xda for the values
Finally. Theres a thread in xda that explains how to download a phone info app. Which will allow you to set the phone radio to LTE/GSM.
last thing you want to check is that you can do wifi, sms, mms, voice mail, etc.
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I mean that as compliment to website. And yes I know the site is for developers as it is named. But this is the place where developers release and discuss there stuff so evryday android user can use there releases as suits to them accordingly... right? or developers just make it for them selves?
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A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
I really can't explain the purpose of this site any better than this post by Kyphur:
"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
joshm.1219 said:
A lot of people do make things for themselves, I run my own crappy builds all the time as I'm learning. Of course the more experienced developers release stable work for the public. Regardless, the purpose of the site isn't to release software for the "everyday android user".
It's about the journey not the end result.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position."
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
EDIT: P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working. Or maybe I ddnt search the right sections. I'll do XDA search through Google now
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I ddnt mean to be like rude or anything guys. So sorry for acting like that.
Now honestly i Google about android rooting/self installin the new version and XDA comes up all the time, so I've known about website long time ago and I see that there are like 100s of posts a minute mostly by total newbs. I'm newbie to android and XDA but like actually do wanna learn this stuff. Thats why I even asked if there are threads/links to where I can brush up beginner stuff so I then if I stll have any issues I can ask the question in a technical manner or even understand different threads that have already answered the question(s) that I have.
As for developer part you guys are programmers and hackers and its your hobby and its pretty cool you do this stuff on daily basis, but for me that is too far ahead.
Now I have another device unlocked NExus S i got from tmobile back in 2011, I wanna update it to latest OS KitKat. I will now look up XDA all over myself, let you know how it goes.:laugh: Hopefully it will work out.
Thanks again.
P.S. the first day i posted search wasnt working.
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I didn't think you were being a rude, but I just thought I would share with you post that explains the purpose of XDA very well. It might seem harsh because it's out of context & was originally directed at some a$$hole.
We were all newbs here, I'm no programmer I just like learning code because I like learning how all of this stuff works. I'm glad you want to start learning to. All I did in the beginning was google search "rooting" and a bunch of write-ups & video's came up that taught me a lot.
I think this all falls under off topic this is really not the place for senior members to try b!+ch slap junior members, staying on topic is how this site operates
OK so I;m a total noob to this awesomeness, but my problem is no matter how many apps Ive downloaded to help me flash a ROM to my Galaxy s4 SCH-I545 I simply do not see the advanced options in recovery mode. Am I doing something horribly wrong or is it a simple fix that I will probably feel totally embarrassed about. Also the little green android dude always shows error above it.Please Help
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OK so I;m a total noob to this awesomeness, but my problem is no matter how many apps Ive downloaded to help me flash a ROM to my Galaxy s4 SCH-I545 I simply do not see the advanced options in recovery mode. Am I doing something horribly wrong or is it a simple fix that I will probably feel totally embarrassed about. Also the little green android dude always shows error above it.Please Help
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You really need to educate yourself. Just jumping in like it appears you are will only cause a lot of problems. No one is going to take you step by step through the entire process. Read, read, read. Research as much as you can. Then research some more. It's the best thing you can do.
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You really need to educate yourself. Just jumping in like it appears you are will only cause a lot of problems. No one is going to take you step by step through the entire process. Read, read, read. Research as much as you can. Then research some more. It's the best thing you can do.
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Believe me i have researched a lot but i cant find anything on why my advanced options wont appear when i go into recovery mode. My green android guy always shows error when i enter recovery. Is that something i'm doing wrong, if it is is there a link for someplace i can find the fix to.
uhswrestler said:
Believe me i have researched a lot but i cant find anything on why my advanced options wont appear when i go into recovery mode. My green android guy always shows error when i enter recovery. Is that something i'm doing wrong, if it is is there a link for someplace i can find the fix to.
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Do you even know what your build number is? Are you rooted? If so, what method did you use to root? What recovery are you trying to use?
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Do you even know what your build number is? Are you rooted? If so, what method did you use to root? What recovery are you trying to use?
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My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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If you actually did research you would know that you can't install a custom recovery to a MK2 build. Your ONLY option is Safestrap. (Search).
Good luck.
uhswrestler said:
My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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"They" said Vroot was safe to use.
Did "They" also tell you to then try to flash a custom recovery like TWRP? Then "They" lied.
You're on MK2. As I've told five or six people today, you can't have a custom recovery on any I454 other than those on the MDK build.
First, there's several different phones called the Galaxy S4. The hardware and software aren't the same between vendors. The Verizon model is VERY locked down and won't permit you to flash custom ROMs. For you, on MK2, Safestrap is the only way to custom flash.
Read the threads here on Safestrap and the thread in the development forum to help you understand what you can do.
They're long threads, but read them. If you can't spend the time to read, don't flash, as you'll just brick your phone.
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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BlackishPerson said:
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Thank you for understanding. I am sorry I am a noob and as expected I didn't know what exactly to research up. I didn't know as a NOOB that I said I was that the build number was my problem. There for I researched what I did know and you can see when i became a member and when I decided to post this and every day in between I was trying different methods on how to get a custom ROM on my phone. Luckily for me you were very resourceful and I learned a great deal from you and appreciate it a lot. I know what you are doing is really aggravating and i praise you for your knowledge. I just hope next that next time we are in contact and I knowingly ask a noobish question you will be a little more understanding with me. The only reason that I posted on here was because I felt that I had tried every possible way and was doing something wrong and it happens to be that I just couldn't do it the ways I was researching up. Thanks a lot for all your help boss man I hope soon enough I can pick your brain for all the knowledge you have when I come across another problem with rooting a different device or just some questions about a certain Rom.
Ok so I just want to say thank you all for your help and the advice you gave me it was totally awesome. I got it to work and now im running Hyperdrive on my galaxy s4. thank you so much.
BlackishPerson said:
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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there is nothing mean about commenting on researching and fully understanding before proceeding. We have dozens of posts every day in this forum by "noobs" who don't take 5 minutes to read anything. And then expect massive help when they screw their phones up....
There are all sorts of youtube videos on just about every aspect of GS4. We have countless threads on what you can and can't do to the GS4 and yet every single day we have new posters asking why they can't load any rom they want or whats taking so much time to get a bootloader unlocked,,,,we have dedicated Devs who basically donate their time to all of us. The least we can do is educate ourselves in what we can and can't do....
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there is nothing mean about commenting on researching and fully understanding before proceeding. We have dozens of posts every day in this forum by "noobs" who don't take 5 minutes to read anything. And then expect massive help when they screw their phones up....
There are all sorts of youtube videos on just about every aspect of GS4. We have countless threads on what you can and can't do to the GS4 and yet every single day we have new posters asking why they can't load any rom they want or whats taking so much time to get a bootloader unlocked,,,,we have dedicated Devs who basically donate their time to all of us. The least we can do is educate ourselves in what we can and can't do....
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And you are very right with your statement I completely agree with you. But as a noob to this I tried to educated myself as much as possible The only thing I hate more is not being able to figure something out on my own. But I had no clue what was my problem to the fact that I couldn't flash a rom with all the possibilities and programs at my disposal. It was just not knowing what to search not the fact that all noobers are lazy
BlackishPerson said:
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Sorry if you think I'm being a jerk, but I wasn't exaggerating. Five to ten people come here just about every day wondering why their phone bricked due to trying to install custom recovery when spending just an hour of two reading this forum would have made it clear that they can't do that.
Trust me, I wasn't being mean, simply blunt. I'm astonished by anyone that thinks that flashing random stuff onto a $600 phone without spending an hour or two to understand what they're doing is a good idea.
I'm not saying you don't have the right to be mean because you do but before you are just figure out if they are Are the stupid noobs or the ones that actually took the time to try to search but couldn't come up with anything. Just remember not every is a complete idiot of a noon.
The thing is that we all were noobs once, but we didn't ask anyone to hold our hands. Unfortunately I can't say I believe you tried as hard as you say you did OP. I mean if your new to rooting, the first thing you should do is search google or youtube for a guide. That's a pretty basic realization all of us had when we learned about this hobby. If you had read or watched any of those guides, you would know everything in rooting depends on a device's bootloader status and how to learn the status of your own bootloader. Then you would've known where to begin in searching in XDA. XDA clearly states it is a site for development & developers, so question's that are covered in any of the thousands of beginner guides get met with harsh responses.
joshm.1219 said:
The thing is that we all were noobs once, but we didn't ask anyone to hold our hands. Unfortunately I can't say I believe you tried as hard as you say you did OP. I mean if your new to rooting, the first thing you should do is search google or youtube for a guide. That's a pretty basic realization all of us had when we learned about this hobby. If you had read or watched any of those guides, you would know everything in rooting depends on a device's bootloader status and how to learn the status of your own bootloader. Then you would've known where to begin in searching in XDA. XDA clearly states it is a site for development & developers, so question's that are covered in any of the thousands of beginner guides get met with harsh responses.
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We all have our beliefs and no one can argue but all I'm saying is that the only thing that stopped me was that I didn't know that the me7/mk2 build could not be flashed like I tries through Odin or goo manager or any of the other 10 ways I tried. But once I found out about safestrap it was all good money. And I thank everyone on here for the advice.
uhswrestler said:
We all have our beliefs and no one can argue but all I'm saying is that the only thing that stopped me was that I didn't know that the me7/mk2 build could not be flashed like I tries through Odin or goo manager or any of the other 10 ways I tried. But once I found out about safestrap it was all good money. And I thank everyone on here for the advice.
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Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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joshm.1219 said:
Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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joshm, we all get a bit perturb with new posters becasue we know if some rudimentary research was done on their part before they leaped into rooting and romming and all that, 90% of the problems would cease. I have taken dozens of PMs from people who were lost and I kept sending them to links that I was able to find in minutes of searching either the XDA forums or elsewhere. We do have the right to get a bit frustrated when we see post after post of why can't I do this or why can't I do that.
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joshm, we all get a bit perturb with new posters becasue we know if some rudimentary research was done on their part before they leaped into rooting and romming and all that, 90% of the problems would cease. I have taken dozens of PMs from people who were lost and I kept sending them to links that I was able to find in minutes of searching either the XDA forums or elsewhere. We do have the right to get a bit frustrated when we see post after post of why can't I do this or why can't I do that.
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I've certainly done some stupid things and asked some obvious questions when I 1st hopped on xda. But I'd like to think I've settled in ok. Seems to me though this is just how it's going to be huh? You two know far more than I do and even I'm hopping on the q&a side and trying to help people like you do.
It would be nice to have stickys regarding all the really easy things like. ... No custom recovery for any Verizon S4 unless you're on MDK. Sadly I know many people won't read that either. Not 100% on exactly what it takes to create a sticky,obviously a mod has to, but that would be a start.
And I know the search function works awesome these days too! I think people get excited and are in a hurry to get flashing away and ask silly questions later when their S4 is stuck at the Verizon splash screen or bootlooping.
Verizon Galaxy S4
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joshm.1219 said:
Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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Hey no problems man i totally understand where you guys come from. But enjoy your day