okay, I made the mistake of getting to MJ 7. But now I'm stuck with tw roms and AM extremely tired of TouchWiz. Is there any hope of getting a custom recovery soon? I know we have safestrap but that only work for TouchWiz roms.
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okay, I made the mistake of getting to MJ 7. But now I'm stuck with tw roms and AM extremely tired of TouchWiz. Is there any hope of getting a custom recovery soon? I know we have safestrap but that only work for TouchWiz roms.
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Realistically? Probably not. The security in place for locking down the bootloader pretty tough to crack. Devs are working on it. If want custom recovery. ..pick up a mdk phone or a dev phone
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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I am on mk2 from fresh Odin and root. I've de bloated using the tool and I've removed extra VZW apk's that I don't need. Is there a minimal TW ROM that can be used with SS? It still seems like a lot of the Sammy gimmicks were left behind and I don't want to break the OS by deleting them. The only reason I went to mk2 is for the baseband and 4.3 update. I was already on me7 when I bought the phone.
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I am on mk2 from fresh Odin and root. I've de bloated using the tool and I've removed extra VZW apk's that I don't need. Is there a minimal TW ROM that can be used with SS? It still seems like a lot of the Sammy gimmicks were left behind and I don't want to break the OS by deleting them. The only reason I went to mk2 is for the baseband and 4.3 update. I was already on me7 when I bought the phone.
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Hyperdrive pretty much all right now I believe.
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Hyperdrive pretty much all right now I believe.
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Thats what i was thinking. I think I'll follow the two ports that are being messed with and go from there as well. I've read a few people using the TW roms to replace stock and not having issues through SS which seems ideal for space reasons.
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There are only a few to choose from. Hyperdrive is the only one thats really made for SS. There are 2 others that can be installed via unpacking them in the backups folder of twrp and restoring them. Both seemed a little buggy on my phone after a bit but others have reported them as being stable.
I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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Personally, I've never heard of what you're describing. The only way I know of with MK2 is to root using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758.
After that, your only option for roms is Safestrap. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441. You will only be able to install TouchWiz 4.3 based roms. Make sure they're compatible with Safestrap before you install.
My advice would be to do a lot of research. This is a good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501.
Good luck
Edit: Just noticed your profile says your using AT&T. This is the Verizon forum.
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I've been away a while. If I'm understanding correctly I can one click route my MK2 and install Samsung based ROMs without a custom recovery using mobile Odin. Can anyone please confirm it or correct me? If I'm right can you give me ideas what to look for in a ROM that will work with this method. Thanks and sorry if this has been asked. I did search but there wasn't much to look at in terms of direct solutions.
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This is the Verizon forum, not at&t. However I believe mobile odin is only useful for restoring the phone to a factory state without a computer, not flashing roms, yet you must be rooted. I could be wrong though.
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Personally, I've never heard of what you're describing. The only way I know of with MK2 is to root using this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758.
After that, your only option for roms is Safestrap. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441441. You will only be able to install TouchWiz 4.3 based roms. Make sure they're compatible with Safestrap before you install.
My advice would be to do a lot of research. This is a good place to start. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501.
Good luck
Edit: Just noticed your profile says your using AT&T. This is the Verizon forum.
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Haven't updated that, I'm with Verizon.
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It is possible to flash rom via Odin have done it on me devices not sure if this would be a exception maybe contact some devs to see where this lies
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It is possible to flash rom via Odin have done it on me devices not sure if this would be a exception maybe contact some devs to see where this lies
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Well as far as I know Odin is just for flashing the firmwares and a custom recovery is for flashing ROMs. Maybe there is an exception, but I don't think so
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Well as far as I know Odin is just for flashing the firmwares and a custom recovery is for flashing ROMs. Maybe there is an exception, but I don't think so
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This is my understanding too..Perhaps one of our brainiacs can clarify
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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This is my understanding too..Perhaps one of our brainiacs can clarify
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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Maybe just clarifying what someone thinks a ROM is, guess you could think firmware is a ROM if you're new to this kind of stuff.
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Generally yes for recoveries and stock firmwares however it does need to be in a tarball file which would take some time I imagine trying to recall what phone it was but this was a few years ago a lot has changed since the n
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Ok looking like I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I trust the idea of the safestrap. I know it's safer, but I have been flashing ROMs for years and the recovery method makes me warm and tingly. I don't think they'll ever crack into the ability to flash the way we're all used to. For every genius we have that's capable of figuring it out, Samsung has 10 that can stop it. I pray they get it, but my hopes are fading.
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Ok looking like I misunderstood then. Thanks for the clarification. I don't think I trust the idea of the safestrap. I know it's safer, but I have been flashing ROMs for years and the recovery method makes me warm and tingly. I don't think they'll ever crack into the ability to flash the way we're all used to. For every genius we have that's capable of figuring it out, Samsung has 10 that can stop it. I pray they get it, but my hopes are fading.
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safestrap has been around for years for other phones and recently hashcode ported to the S4 last fall. I have used it since that time with zero issues and have been running several ROMs at a time to evaluate, with again no issues with safestrap. Not sure why you wouldn't "trust it".....as it gives all us non-MDK owners ability to run something else than just stock.
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safestrap has been around for years for other phones and recently hashcode ported to the S4 last fall. I have used it since that time with zero issues and have been running several ROMs at a time to evaluate, with again no issues with safestrap. Not sure why you wouldn't "trust it".....as it gives all us non-MDK owners ability to run something else than just stock.
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Exactly, I've been hammering away on Safestrap since my RAZR and it's really safe just like the name implies. Granted I could flash AOSP on the razr, but my guess is at some point kexec will come around for the S4 as well. Too many really smart people working on that project for it to fail in my opinion.
Anyways.... For now Safestrap is awesome, and happy to have it.
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Now if there were more ROM options lol!
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Now if there were more ROM options lol!
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slowly getting there. Takes some time and while many SS roms are available they all come up short to my main day to day HD12 Rom....battery life is simply amazing
So I was looking at roms for my phone and I saw one named liquidsmooth and I wanted to put it on my phone but every time I tried to put it on using safestrap and everytime I load it and flash it but my screen is black and sometimes it was like pixel like bars that was a light blue and pinkish color. Im running the latest safestrap on 4.3 and I want to know what I need to do. Please help me thanks!
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So I was looking at roms for my phone and I saw one named liquidsmooth and I wanted to put it on my phone but every time I tried to put it on using safestrap and everytime I load it and flash it but my screen is black and sometimes it was like pixel like bars that was a light blue and pinkish color. Im running the latest safestrap on 4.3 and I want to know what I need to do. Please help me thanks!
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Safe strap doesn't work with aosp based Roms. You're limited to only touch wiz Roms if you're using safe strap.
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Safe strap doesn't work with aosp based Roms. You're limited to only touch wiz Roms if you're using safe strap.
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Is there a way I could get liquidsmooth on my phone? I've looked everywhere but im a noob and dont know what to do. Cause ive heard that the bootloader is locked.
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Is there a way I could get liquidsmooth on my phone? I've looked everywhere but im a noob and dont know what to do. Cause ive heard that the bootloader is locked.
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Unfortunately the bootloader was locked down very tight by Verizon and the devs are working hard for a workaround but there is nothing in terms of aosp Roms for safe strap. If you want something with aosp styling, I'd recommend hyperdrive rls14. It has aosp theming and insane battery life.
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Is there a way I could get liquidsmooth on my phone? I've looked everywhere but im a noob and dont know what to do. Cause ive heard that the bootloader is locked.
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you can try to pick up a Dev phone that has mdk on it....otherwise safestrap is ONLY option with 7 or 8 ROMS to pick from
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you can try to pick up a Dev phone that has mdk on it....otherwise safestrap is ONLY option with 7 or 8 ROMS to pick from
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And to be honest there are so many more SafeStrap Roms now than back when I had my mj7 S4...its great. Especially when the devs try to add in more aosp features its really not so bad having a fully locked down s4. It's come a long way that's all I'm saying.
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There are a couple AOSPish TW roms you can load in safestrap if you're on MJ7 or MK2. Foxhound Diamond Dogs posted by Gigilie is pretty nice, I'm using the Eclipse rom as my DD... found on Nitro's website. elementalxdesigns. I don't think the newest builds are posted here. If you're gonna try that, read the WHOLE forum, because installing APKs and Playstore doesn't work. There is a fix for it talked about in there, which works great.
I know we could probably go on forever here but I just want to say I've been running Negalite 4.4 (tw) and Sacs ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512983
On my girls sprint s4 and there both awesome. Someone should see about porting them over or whatever is needed for them to be on Verizon.
Both would make great additions to the SafeStrap list. I realize however though that doing things like this take a lot of time.... Just throwing it out there that's all
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There are a couple AOSPish TW roms you can load in safestrap if you're on MJ7 or MK2. Foxhound Diamond Dogs posted by Gigilie is pretty nice, I'm using the Eclipse rom as my DD... found on Nitro's website. elementalxdesigns. I don't think the newest builds are posted here. If you're gonna try that, read the WHOLE forum, because installing APKs and Playstore doesn't work. There is a fix for it talked about in there, which works great.
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Is there a rom you would recomend for someone who is looking for a battery saving and fast rom that has nice customisable features?
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Is there a rom you would recomend for someone who is looking for a battery saving and fast rom that has nice customisable features?
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Foxhound, or foxhound, or maybe even foxhound. He has an amazing aosp theme.
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Is there a rom you would recomend for someone who is looking for a battery saving and fast rom that has nice customisable features?
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hyperdrive 14 without a doubt, many built customization features and amazing battery life
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hyperdrive 14 without a doubt, many built victimization features and amazing battery life
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customization maybe? haha i laughed when i read that
I just picked up an S4 and am coming from an S3.
Found this link to get root but not sure if I want to take the method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
I'm on MK2.
Has the bootloader been unlocked yet or is it unlocked by default?
My phone needs some AOSP in its life. Bad.
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I just picked up an S4 and am coming from an S3.
Found this link to get root but not sure if I want to take the method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574652
I'm on MK2.
Has the bootloader been unlocked yet or is it unlocked by default?
My phone needs some AOSP in its life. Bad.
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Not sure anyone can help you if your not sure you want to try the method in the first place. The thread Naddict refers to says its roots MK2 in the title. The bootloader Is locked so no AOSP. Theres a sticky that most people refer users to when they ask this question (which is at least 4 times a day) I trust you'll be able to find it though.
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Not sure anyone can help you if your not sure you want to try the method in the first place. The thread Naddict refers to says its roots MK2 in the title. The bootloader Is locked so no AOSP. Theres a sticky that most people refer users to when they ask this question (which is at least 4 times a day) I trust you'll be able to find it though.
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The only reason I wasn't sure if I wanted to try it is because I'm strictly wanting AOSP ROMs... I hate Touchwiz with a passion. So if I can't use any AOSP ROMs, I won't bother rooting it.
Hopefully they get the bootloader unlocked soon.
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Would it be possible to Odin to a previous build that has an unlockable bootloader, root and then flash?
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Would it be possible to Odin to a previous build that has an unlockable bootloader, root and then flash?
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No that's not possible sorry. Wish it were that easy.
Look into SafeStrap compatible ROMs for the Verizon s4... There's a list on here of them. Some pretty cool ones that have the feel of aosp.
Or... Go on swappa and buy an MDK build which you can run aosp on.
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The only reason I wasn't sure if I wanted to try it is because I'm strictly wanting AOSP ROMs... I hate Touchwiz with a passion. So if I can't use any AOSP ROMs, I won't bother rooting it.
Hopefully they get the bootloader unlocked soon.
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all S4 owners need to start with this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Ah.
I'm just going to resell this thing.
Theres no way to get away from Touchwiz.
Thanks though guys.
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Are we going to be getting a root method for nc5 4.4 anytime soon ? I really regret doing the update but oh well hope things look up soon
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Are we going to be getting a root method for nc5 4.4 anytime soon ? I really regret doing the update but oh well hope things look up soon
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Not another "when will we get root" thread........
You will get it, when you get it.
But then, you may never get it.........
Why do people take the OTA then wonder about root.
If it's that important, be patient.......
I agree. What's the rush to update only to be stuck? We live in an instant gratification society anymore. Wait to update. There is nothing of significance in the update that you need it right away.
Verizon is really trying to clamp down on tethering. Foxfire is broke in the update... The most Verizon app requests root privileges to track tethering on unlimited plans. Stay away from updates until those in the know give you the go ahead.
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Are we going to be getting a root method for nc5 4.4 anytime soon ? I really regret doing the update but oh well hope things look up soon
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Could be months....If ever.
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Could be months....If ever.
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right so why wait? Why not Downgrade to MK2 then flash any system img capable of MK2 install safestrap then re-upgrade the right way? Look under the development section we have a 20+ page spread on how to do it properly. This will give you root and access to a butt load of new 4.4.2 ROMs. It will also give you root you'll just have to deal with this method for time being i doubt it will change anytime soon. It works fine if you havent upgraded yet put on the breaks and do not upgrade your bootloaders. All you really need to upgrade is your AP and CP with hlos. Then switching between 4.4 and 4.3 is cake. Right now I've got 4.4.2 Custom ROM on my stock slot and a 4.3 gDux 1.1 on 1st slot and an AOSP ROM on my 2nd slot. Ive got a variety literally goes 4.4.2 to 4.3 to 4.2.2 AOSP and I couldnt be happier in terms of what I can throw on an use with my phone.
Actually Firefox just updated and now works on 4.4.2
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