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I made a thread here a few days ago about how my 3vo keeps randomly rebooting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176931
The phone likes to randomly reboot, freeze or suddenly goes into a phase where its unable to turn on at all unless I do a had reset by holding down volume down and the power button. I took it in to sprint and they saw how it wouldn't even turn on, and all these morons did was reset it again claiming to have fixed the problem. They refused to give me an exchange.
When it started rebooting again, I went back and they told me to go to the sprint repair center where I'd have to drop it off and leave it there for a few hours where it would be tested for the problem. I live really far from this repair center and to make it worse, the idiots at that store told me, if they could not replicate the problem, they would not honor any exchange policy. The problem with this is that the rebooting is really random, sometimes the phone can go a full 2 days without any issue and then without warning all hell will break loose. The person who had reset my phone before even went as far as to say that there is nothing wrong with my phone and that its well within normal operation.
wtf is this? This is the biggest joke of a customer service I have ever seen. I'm really starting to miss T-mobiles service now. I've called multiple sales reps and stores and all they do is try to redirect me to someone else over and over again.
Any advice? I really like the evo 3d, all I ask is for a damn phone that isn't defective.
Try to find another store or call and ask for a supervisor for customer care and have them note your account to replace your phone. You should definitely get it exchanged. This is not a common problem with the phone at all.
The other option is if you are still within your 30 days, go to the store and tell them you want to return it and then buy it again but this time get a newer device. You can do that within your 30 days of course unless you are waiting to try out the Moto Photon.
I had the same issue,went thru two phone already so this problem do exist..
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al3azim said:
Try to find another store or call and ask for a supervisor for customer care and have them note your account to replace your phone. You should definitely get it exchanged. This is not a common problem with the phone at all.
The other option is if you are still within your 30 days, go to the store and tell them you want to return it and then buy it again but this time get a newer device. You can do that within your 30 days of course unless you are waiting to try out the Moto Photon.
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Yeah, I'm within my 30 days.
I called another store and they said I'd be charged $35 if I wanted to exchange it without taking it to the repair center.
Guess I'll just have to go to the sprint repair center and wait around a few hours while hoping the phone crashes while its there.
I've never seen such a bull **** exchange policy. The rep who reset the phone when it wouldn't start told me to stop installing too many android apps and blamed me for the problem, of course I was running factory stock.
A few years ago I bought a defective phone from tmo, all I did was called and told them, and they had a new phone waiting for me at the store when I came in. Has anyone else had to deal with this ****ty sprint customer service or is it just me?
Yea not normal. Had mine since launch. Not one reboot.
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I replaced my phone 3 times (seems like the batch was bad) and i bought it at Target..all I did was tell the guy about the problem and I got it replaced every time..he didn't even check..he gave me a phone this last time.from a new shipment and the phone is.flawless..Happy I.got a.good.one because I love the phone..don't know why you are having issues because they can replace it no problem if they want.
Sprint customer service is by far the worst.
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Yeah, I'm not at all happy with coming to sprint from T mobile so far. Sprints 3g is also a joke compared to HSPA on T mobile. I'm willing to overlook all these things if they'd just give me a damn phone that isn't broken.
I'm surprised that everyone else around here is able to exchange the phone so easily but the guys I'm dealing with are making it a huge pain. Maybe I just got unlucky with the sprint store around here.
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Yeah, I'm within my 30 days.
I called another store and they said I'd be charged $35 if I wanted to exchange it without taking it to the repair center.
Guess I'll just have to go to the sprint repair center and wait around a few hours while hoping the phone crashes while its there.
I've never seen such a bull **** exchange policy. The rep who reset the phone when it wouldn't start told me to stop installing too many android apps and blamed me for the problem, of course I was running factory stock.
A few years ago I bought a defective phone from tmo, all I did was called and told them, and they had a new phone waiting for me at the store when I came in. Has anyone else had to deal with this ****ty sprint customer service or is it just me?
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Just to give the other side of this (ie the store)
It does suck that you have a bad device and resetting it is the protocol first. But there are a lot of people who will buy android phones, take them and load every app they can fit on, then come back for exchanges. "My phone doesn't work etc etc."
They will keep doing this endlessly simply because they don't know how to use the phone properly. Doing a reset on these phones fixes the problem 90% of the time, so the stores do this first to cut down on wasted devices, time and money.
I understand that you probably don't fall into that category, but, as with everything else in the world, the bad apples spoil the pie. Hope thy get that straightened out for you soon
What I did was called customer service and told them about a problem I was having, although when I took my phone to the sprint store PRIOR to me calling CS, they said there was nothing they could do, or would do for that matter. So I called CS, and they emailed me a invoice, telling the sprint store what, and how to give me the excange. Then I went to the sprint store with the invoice in hand, and they HAD to give me my replacement Evo 3D. I was within my 30 days.
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See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182917
Im going thru the same issue. My third EVO is being sent to me on Monday.
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Yeah, I'm not at all happy with coming to sprint from T mobile so far. Sprints 3g is also a joke compared to HSPA on T mobile. I'm willing to overlook all these things if they'd just give me a damn phone that isn't broken.
I'm surprised that everyone else around here is able to exchange the phone so easily but the guys I'm dealing with are making it a huge pain. Maybe I just got unlucky with the sprint store around here.
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I came from tmobile and everything about sprint is better! Better phones, faster web and by far the best customer service I've ever had from any carrier! Go ahead and go back to tmobile! Les people to hog this network!
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I am sorry that you have to go through this crap, as people said i would call cs. I had to exchange my device twice at the sprint store, the first time was mainly because of network speed and battery life, after i waited 2 hours for the techs they couldn't find anything wrong except when i did a speed test my phone got way slower dl speed then another phone at the same sprint store. so the rep exchanged the product, the second time my phone was acting u, kind of like your, freezing, screen shutting off, and other things. after a few factory resets my phone would still not act right. so the next time it froze i just brought it in, frozen and explain that i already tried the factory reboot a few times - they had no problems exchanging my phone. I recommend that next time your phone freezes you just bring it in, this way they are able to see the problem themselves.
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What I did was called customer service and told them about a problem I was having, although when I took my phone to the sprint store PRIOR to me calling CS, they said there was nothing they could do, or would do for that matter. So I called CS, and they emailed me a invoice, telling the sprint store what, and how to give me the excange. Then I went to the sprint store with the invoice in hand, and they HAD to give me my replacement Evo 3D. I was within my 30 days.
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^^^ This.
Stores suck for customer service, but if you call CS they are monitored for their CS and usually will do whatever it takes to make you happy, within reason of course. I would make the call and they should take care of you.
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I came from T-Mobile also and aside from the faster 3g Speeds, I could not be happier with sprint, the service is awesome and I have always gotten credit/discounts/ free airwaves/exchanges and whatever else from the rententions team, They do there very best to help out, If you get a rep that you can barely understand .. ask to be transfer to account services and you will get all the help you need... I couldnt never get that service with T-Mobile even after 7 years of being a great customer ... Yes CDMA/WIMAX is far from perfect but I would not want to be anywhere else...
What I would recommend is going to the sprint store, cancelling the upgrade and returning the phone, then go buy the phone at radioshack or bestbuy. i work for radioshack and if a customer had a real issue with the phone, our store would replace it until it worked properly.
I had the same problem with random reboots, about 5 times the first week. I took it back and they replaced it right then. You have to find the one intelligent person that works there and only deal with them. (I choose to believe there is at least one at each store) I have been blatantly lied to, downright scammed, and treated like **** by so many dumb-ass incompetent in-store reps that I wouldnt believe anything they say. Just keep trying different reps/stores til they exchange it.
Aside from the in-store reps I am a happy sprint customer.
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What I would recommend is going to the sprint store, cancelling the upgrade and returning the phone, then go buy the phone at radioshack or bestbuy. i work for radioshack and if a customer had a real issue with the phone, our store would replace it until it worked properly.
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CAn't say I agree with this. If you are within your 30 days still, then I would recommend doing what the other guy did above and get the invoice printed off and going to a corporate and not a repair store to get it exchanged. Its really a toss up in which results you may get, but more corporate stores are made to listen to what CS has to say and the results they can pull up.
Maybe its just me, but my sprint customer service experiencE has been great. They always fix my problems without any fuss.
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About the whole TMO vs sprint thing. I'm not bashing sprint as a whole. Obviously they have attractive pricing, the best data plans (actually unlimited), solid coverage, etc. I'm just saying my T mobile customer service experience was far superior to what I have seen so far. In the past sprint was known to have the worst CS for sure. I've heard they have improved a great deal recently, of course I have yet to see it.
Tomorrow I will contact sprint CS directly and not the store and see what they can do. If CS can't just get me a replacement, then I may have no other option then to go to a repair center, which is frankly absurd considering this is a brand new phone and the sales reps themselves have seen my phone malfunction right before their eyes even after the factory reset.
I guess one way or another I will get a new Evo 3d and I hope the new one will just work right so I can get back to enjoying the phone. I've had over 7 reboots in the last 3 hours with this phone, its unbearable at this point.
Because of personal experience, I avoid going into the local AT&T store like the plague. I've been to some where I've had great experiences and tons of help, though.
But I'm just curious why so many are pre-ordering at AT&T stores this week when Best Buy is giving away $50 gift cards upon activation (phone freedom deal) plus the free flip case. (Must register mobile numbers by Feb 12, but can upgrade anytime during 2012.)
Is there a side benefit to buying through the corporate store that I don't know about?
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Because of personal experience, I avoid going into the local AT&T store like the plague. I've been to some where I've had great experiences and tons of help, though.
But I'm just curious why so many are pre-ordering at AT&T stores this week when Best Buy is giving away $50 gift cards upon activation (phone freedom deal) plus the free flip case. (Must register mobile numbers by Feb 12, but can upgrade anytime during 2012.)
Is there a side benefit to buying through the corporate store that I don't know about?
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I would like to know that as well i did my preorder at bestbuy and got the the $50 gift card and the free case but really the major reason I got the phone at bestbuy was there insurance in my opinion there's are much better then AT&T simply for the fact they don't have a deductible when I had a inspire and the phone screen crack I had to pay like $200 to get it replaced and with bestbuy if I break my screen or damage it in any way I will get another at no cost
I think it is because some are getting around their actual upgrade date by some flaw in ATTs system and therefore are forced to preorder on their website. Others that go into store, Im not sure. For one thing, the phone freedom thing is awesome and Ive been utilizing it for every customer that gets a phone upgrade. Im handing out gift cards on flip phones lol. People are complaining about the upgrade price but you can get it at BBY for 250 if you sign up for phone freedom this week. And you get a case? lol double bonus. Last, and this may just be because I work there, I think ATT's insurance sucks. $7 a month and (Note will be a tier 3 insurance item) a $200 deductible for replacement. That is insane and I dont know how they have anyone buying that program. Sure, you cover lost and stolen but who the hell is gonna lose such a big device. Gorilla glass or not, the note's screen can crack (look at the int version forum, it happens) and I for one am not paying $7 a month ($168/2 year contract) and then a gigantic deductible. Im not gonna go into details but if you're thinking about getting yours at BBY, ask the guy about Geek Squad Black Tie protection. He should give you a good enough run down of the program that my rant will make sense lol
Follow-up question re: Black Tie...
Month to month @ $10 per
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Follow-up question re: Black Tie...
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Correct. I always do the outright because it does save some money and you dont have to have recurring payment from a card. If you get another phone within the two years you can return the protection at the prorated amount.
I tried upgrading via BB and it said I did not qualify for an update.
Signed on to AT&T and they offered me an early upgrade*.
*Which, by the way, matched what I was told by the local store rep. when I purchased my current phone last year (I obviously didn't know if he was right or not but knew he was might be just trying to make a sale).
One of the very few things an ATT store can do that Best Buy cannot is change dates to do an early upgrade. The only ones ATT allows us to do is an early iPhone upgrade, which kind of sucks cuz its just 200 off retail
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Because of personal experience, I avoid going into the local AT&T store like the plague. I've been to some where I've had great experiences and tons of help, though.
But I'm just curious why so many are pre-ordering at AT&T stores this week when Best Buy is giving away $50 gift cards upon activation (phone freedom deal) plus the free flip case. (Must register mobile numbers by Feb 12, but can upgrade anytime during 2012.)
Is there a side benefit to buying through the corporate store that I don't know about?
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No. Around my area the ATT store reps rush you in and out like you are an annoyance. BB in almost all cases will have a better deal. Like in this case you can get $50 gift card + a free case if you pre-order.
from my experience with the at&t stores in my area a lot of them are not very experienced at all they couldn't help me with any questions at all where the people at my bestbuy mobile were very helpful
The corporate stores are pretty awesome in my area. When I went in to preorder my Note I recognized the dude I bought my 8525 from eons ago -- lots of experienced reps in my area. The only downside I run into is that it always seems to be World War III between the store reps and the call-in reps whenever I go in there. The good thing is the store reps are always fighting for me, but as the customer it sucks to stand there for literally two hours in the this case watching the store rep look at dinner recipes on her iPad because customer service has her on hold then she ends up getting in a spitting match with the guy asking for his employee number and hanging up on him . . . lol. But in the end she figured it out for me so more power to her . . . but yea, it always seems to be a war between them and the phone reps whenever I go in there.
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The corporate stores are pretty awesome in my area. When I went in to preorder my Note I recognized the dude I bought my 8525 from eons ago -- lots of experienced reps in my area. The only downside I run into is that it always seems to be World War III between the store reps and the call-in reps whenever I go in there. The good thing is the store reps are always fighting for me, but as the customer it sucks to stand there for literally two hours in the this case watching the store rep look at dinner recipes on her iPad because customer service has her on hold then she ends up getting in a spitting match with the guy asking for his employee number and hanging up on him . . . lol. But in the end she figured it out for me so more power to her . . . but yea, it always seems to be a war between them and the phone reps whenever I go in there.
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This is just my opinion But; it seems to me If they have to call into ATT cs (call in reps) it means the store reps dont know what they are doing.
i went to corperate cause they will allow early upgrades and BB cant do that.
It always seems like they know what needs to be done they just don't have the authority to do it.
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This is just my opinion But; it seems to me If they have to call into ATT cs (call in reps) it means the store reps dont know what they are doing.
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Does Bestbuy allow you to use the upgrade from another line in the family plan? I know Amazon Wireless policy doesn't allow you to do that.
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Does Bestbuy allow you to use the upgrade from another line in the family plan? I know Amazon Wireless policy doesn't allow you to do that.
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Yes we can do alternate upgrades
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This is just my opinion But; it seems to me If they have to call into ATT cs (call in reps) it means the store reps dont know what they are doing.
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As a corporate store employee, and a customer for years, I cannot disagree more.
The reason we have to sometimes call customer service is because they have a more extensive version of our system than we do. And, in general, customer service has more power, for lack of a better term, than we do. If the customer needs something done that can't be done from opus, then we have to call it in. It's not a limitation of the rep themselves, but the actual computer system.
Funny thing is, customer service is wrong too often for my liking. Such as, sending customers to the store for things we can't help them with, just because they didn't want to deal with it. Happens a lot. Hanging up on customers, etc.
The reason why there's such a battle with customer service is they aren't trained well, and are poorly managed. I can't tell you how many times I've had to call customer service AGAIN, on behalf of a customer, because the last customer service rep didn't do something right.
That's pretty much what the suit and tie manager told me during my two hour Note preorder. He said some of the customer service reps are even contract employees that take simultaneous calls for multiple companies including AT&T and that at most they have one week of AT&T training whereas he has in store employees that have been there well over five years.
Hello,
Just wanted to share my experience with my Evo. First I love this phone. I sit next to an apple guy all day and just laugh and laugh and laugh. But the phone is only amazing when it actually turns on. Starting last Saturday - I experienced power issues, where my phone would just turn off - and would only turn back on if I introduced a power source, AC or USB didn't matter. Then after about 4 of these episodes, my phone just stopped wanting to turn on at all, with our without a power source. Walked into a Sprint retail shop - basically was called a retard for not buying insurance, and was told I was out of luck. I told them that's crap - I've been a sprint customer for 10 years, blabalabla do something or I walk next door to Verizon. So he called his buddy at a Sprint service store. I was informed of a known issue that involved our phones - but no details on what that issue was, either they didn't know or didn't want to say. Anyway, I was told I could RMA my phone for $35 and then add insurance afterwards. Next day - new phone - done. No one knew at sprint, or was willing to admit what the issue actually was.
1. Anyone know what the issue actually is? Sprint claimed "Software", not accepting updates, basically all software. IMO, you need power before your software loads, so how could it be a software issue?
2. If it is indeed a battery discharge issue - I would imagine stripping the phone and replacing the battery should fix it? Is it solved in certain hardware versions?
Never heard of this issue. My EVO 3D was replaced within the first week I had it because the battery died and wouldn't turn back on again being charged or anything. Turned out to be an issue with all of them. Took it into a Sprint store (mind you I have TEP and it was a week old phone) and they just gave me a new one.
I call all my customers retards regardless if they have TEP or not.
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I call all my customers retards regardless if they have TEP or not.
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I call the representatives in the stores retards. For whatever reason, every store that I've been to in Central Florida have people working there that know absolutely nothing about their phones. I made a sale for a representative one time while I was killing some time looking at the phones that were out. All I had to do was amaze the customer with the features of the phone, that's all.
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I call the representatives in the stores retards. For whatever reason, every store that I've been to in Central Florida have people working there that know absolutely nothing about their phones. I made a sale for a representative one time while I was killing some time looking at the phones that were out. All I had to do was amaze the customer with the features of the phone, that's all.
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That is true. I have to say that most sales representatives don't know squat about phones.
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I also just RMA'ed my first day release EVO 4G LTE due to light leakage from the home button. When I originally brought the phone in to a service store on July 18, the Sprint service tech said it was clearly defective, but I would still have to pay the $35 admin fee for Sprint to process the RMA. I wouldn't have to pay anything if I did it directly through HTC, but it would take up to 2 weeks to get a replacement. So last week I decided to just pay the $35 and have Sprint send me a replacement with the return envelope. However, this time, the tech said that the light leakage was a "cosmetic defect" that doesn't affect the phone performance and he refused to create an rma. I said that was retarded and asked for the manager, who promptly approved the e-ticket to rma the device.
The Sprint store customer service experience at the Greenfield, WI location can be so frustrating. We've been with Sprint forever, so I don't know if it is any better at AT&T or Verizon. But it makes me consider switching.
One of the Evo's in my family was defective upon opening the brand new phone (dead line in the digitizer grid) and they wanted $35 to replace it--absolutely absurd! Sprint's customer service is going down the drain, fast.
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One of the Evo's in my family was defective upon opening the brand new phone (dead line in the digitizer grid) and they wanted $35 to replace it--absolutely absurd! Sprint's customer service is going down the drain, fast.
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As in it was not outside of the 14 return period?
It always amuses me to see people who don't get insurance get upset at having to pay for a replacement device....
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Sprint shouldn't be charging for hardware defects. If you bought it through sprint, you should inform the rep that it is sprints responsibility to replace hardware components that fail. Rep's at stores are night the brightest, they just have to meet their quota per week. I wouldn't go through them. I almost always go through retentions. They are the ones who know what they are doing, and have the power to credit money or perks to your account.
Whenever you have a problem with your phone, be it hardware failure, loss in service, want to upgrade early, replace with a similar model, call retentions first. The number can be found be looking online.
For those who have already paid the $35, you could call retentions and be credited that amount towards your next bill. Just tell them what happened, what you want, and they most likely will be able to help you.
p.s, retentions may ask you to take your phone to a store to have a sales rep look at it and determine if it's damaged from a hardware defect. This usually happens for claims like "my phone is bending" (happened to me). Theyre reasoning is that they want to make sure it's a defect before offering a free replacement. If the sales rep tries to tell you that you have to pay the $35, just tell explain the situation, "retentions just needs someone to determine if its defective, and then they'll replace it for free", and be on your way.
Hope this helps
Cheers
xanthra said:
Hello,
Just wanted to share my experience with my Evo. First I love this phone. I sit next to an apple guy all day and just laugh and laugh and laugh. But the phone is only amazing when it actually turns on. Starting last Saturday - I experienced power issues, where my phone would just turn off - and would only turn back on if I introduced a power source, AC or USB didn't matter. Then after about 4 of these episodes, my phone just stopped wanting to turn on at all, with our without a power source. Walked into a Sprint retail shop - basically was called a retard for not buying insurance, and was told I was out of luck. I told them that's crap - I've been a sprint customer for 10 years, blabalabla do something or I walk next door to Verizon. So he called his buddy at a Sprint service store. I was informed of a known issue that involved our phones - but no details on what that issue was, either they didn't know or didn't want to say. Anyway, I was told I could RMA my phone for $35 and then add insurance afterwards. Next day - new phone - done. No one knew at sprint, or was willing to admit what the issue actually was.
1. Anyone know what the issue actually is? Sprint claimed "Software", not accepting updates, basically all software. IMO, you need power before your software loads, so how could it be a software issue?
2. If it is indeed a battery discharge issue - I would imagine stripping the phone and replacing the battery should fix it? Is it solved in certain hardware versions?
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That sounds a lot like what happened to my phone. I plugged it into my computer via USB and it basically went totally dead. Difference is, when I took it to a Sprint store, they told me it was a known issue and gave me a new phone.
Wait why the hell is sprint charging for hardware defects? I thought without TEP all hardware defects are supposed to be a free replacement for the first year? This is how it was done for me for the first year without insurance on my OG EVO and touch pro 1.
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neoshi said:
Wait why the hell is sprint charging for hardware defects? I thought without TEP all hardware defects are supposed to be a free replacement for the first year? This is how it was done for me for the first year without insurance on my OG EVO and touch pro 1.
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its likely just sales reps taking advantage of people
I had to pay 35 without insurance also for a screen defect , had the month for 2 months
I love this. The phone has a one year warranty with sprint. End of story. I'm on EVO number 5 since June and each time I walk in, the sprint nerd says they hope I bought the insurance..I did but quickly remind them there warranty is free and is for one year. After that they talk to there manager , they order me a replacment phone. The last time the manager gave me a new one. Never paid a penny.
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The amount of incorrect information in this thread makes it pitiful to call my self a Sprint customer. Without insurance you have to pay the $35 fee to get a phone replaced and fixed if it uses a part. It's not "RMA"ing it either, Sprint has their own in house service and repair program. If you have a hardware defect and you don't want to pay, send it to HTC because that is where your one year warranty is. With HTC. Not Sprint. They are a business, not a soup kitchen. And no, they won't replace your phone for cosmetic defects. Not a soup kitchen. If you have any issues with your phone out of the box, you have that 14 day return and exchange period to get it resolved without cost.
This thread is mostly about people taking responsibility for their own products and realizing everything isn't a handout. $35 for an entire replacement phone, which retails at over $500 is a hell of a deal. In fact, its usually cheaper than actually having the insurance, which is now $11 a month.
The way it has always been done for me with hardware defects with no damage caused by me in the first year (e.g. touch pro slide out keyboard flimsy keyboard ribbon cable, faulty screen on OG EVO) was that I walk into a sprint repair center, they see the problem, request a replacement device, no charge. They always tell me not to worry about fees since they just send it back to manufacturer and it's neither my problem nor Sprint's. I've been doing it like since 07 up until my last case in early 2011. Other folks around xda have been doing it the same exact way, so I'm guessing something has changed recently... which sucks.
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xanthra said:
Hello,
Just wanted to share my experience with my Evo. First I love this phone. I sit next to an apple guy all day and just laugh and laugh and laugh. But the phone is only amazing when it actually turns on. Starting last Saturday - I experienced power issues, where my phone would just turn off - and would only turn back on if I introduced a power source, AC or USB didn't matter. Then after about 4 of these episodes, my phone just stopped wanting to turn on at all, with our without a power source. Walked into a Sprint retail shop - basically was called a retard for not buying insurance, and was told I was out of luck. I told them that's crap - I've been a sprint customer for 10 years, blabalabla do something or I walk next door to Verizon. So he called his buddy at a Sprint service store. I was informed of a known issue that involved our phones - but no details on what that issue was, either they didn't know or didn't want to say. Anyway, I was told I could RMA my phone for $35 and then add insurance afterwards. Next day - new phone - done. No one knew at sprint, or was willing to admit what the issue actually was.
1. Anyone know what the issue actually is? Sprint claimed "Software", not accepting updates, basically all software. IMO, you need power before your software loads, so how could it be a software issue?
2. If it is indeed a battery discharge issue - I would imagine stripping the phone and replacing the battery should fix it? Is it solved in certain hardware versions?
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This is exactly what happened to my first Evo LTE about a month after I got it. I ended up getting a replacement from best buy.
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For what its worth, I'm on my 4th EVO lte... I do pay the very cheap like 7 or 8 bucks for tep.
First LTE, was bent after a week, called 611, they said go to store, I said no (i repair phones and laptops and TVs) the techs are idiots, and you guys don't have any parts yet.. got new phone via mail 2 days later.
2nd lte, had bleeding light on bottom near home button, same deal when I called 611, same deal, got new phone in 3days.
3rd LTE, bottom left of screen rippled with slight movement, also speaker phone was borked. Again, told 611 their guys were morons and even called to see if they stocked replacement screen and speaker, so same thing, called 611, got new one, this time they on back order.. got sprint replacement in about week and half..
4th is ok, no issues, cept for hboot 1.19 which unless ur incompetent, is no biggie, wow, one simple command line to flash what ever..
Now I did have to argue a bit with phone support , they advised me to call asurion, I said no, its a hardware defect yada yada.. when ever they wernt working with me on phone, I asked what my early termination fee was, then I was shipped a phone..
U just gotta be Stern, not unreasonable with those guys
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Wait why the hell is sprint charging for hardware defects? I thought without TEP all hardware defects are supposed to be a free replacement for the first year? This is how it was done for me for the first year without insurance on my OG EVO and touch pro 1.
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Well - in defense of Sprint - I did not buy the phone there. But regardless any retailer should be able to RMA something with a defect - sort of like how car dealerships work. At least they offered the add on insurance since I "activated" a new phone. Now that I think about it - whats the activation cost of new phones lol ... like something around 35...
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i bought a samsung gs3 on nov. 8th. couple days later heard about the dna (i don't know how i missed it). i have 14 days to return or exchange and what not. i went to the store a couple times asking about exchanging it for the dna since the preorder is available and the store date is nov. 21st putting me right in the window. first guy said he would have to find out how to do it since it was a new line also and would call me that day but never did call me. then tonight i went back and explained everything and she called him and he said oh you wouldn't like it, the gs3 is much nicer, and he got to play with it and the battery was awful, it would be a real headache for you to exchange it. i said i still wanted it and they said we checked the warehouse and they don't have any yet and we won't have them until the end of the month. saying things to convince me i don't want to do it.
this all sounds more like they just don't want to do it and don't what to end up with a return. i told them people have received shipping notifications, they replied with that's probably not what they meant, they wouldn't be shipping already.
is there a confirmed store date on these? i wanted one before just because i wanted one but now i want one with the added spite of sticking them with a return.
Everything I heard points to the 21st. Verizon said on their site that they will start shipping the DNA's on the 19th, and with the two day shipping they will also arrive on the 21st. You can exchange your phone until the 22nd, so you should be fine.
Yup, it's officially the 21st. I'm guessing they are getting paid more commission to sell off a lot of the GS3s before the DNAs start selling, or they lose it if you try to switch (or don't want to do the work).
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Yup, it's officially the 21st. I'm guessing they are getting paid more commission to sell off a lot of the GS3s before the DNAs start selling, or they lose it if you try to switch (or don't want to do the work).
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I am thinking the same...I made an internet order this morning and it shipped out around noon for delivery on the 21st.
I certainly hope so. I'm planning on swinging around to my local store after work on Friday in hope that they'll have some on hand. The reps at my store don't know anything when it comes to dates except one guy, but he's hardly there anymore.
I can say that they showed up for store ordering today so you should be able to pick it up in a store soon... if I were you I would just return it to the gs3 to the store you got it from and then get it somewhere else since those guys are assholes...
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I've confirmed with a few Verizon stores that they'll have them ready to go when they open Tomorrow (11/21) morning.
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I've confirmed with a few Verizon stores that they'll have them ready to go when they open Tomorrow (11/21) morning.
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I have some stupid verizon stores in my area because none of them could give me an update and one lady didn't even know what it was.
WTF!!!
At the announcement of the DNA official spokesmen said it was being released on the 21st. There's no question it will be.
Threaten to cancel the line and return the S3. They will balk. Wife didn't like the I phone 4 when switching to Verizon, they wanted to charge a restock fee and told me how much she would hate android, blah blah, blah. Told them fine. Cancel the line, I'll return the phone, pay the fee and open a new line online through Amazon and get my phone through them since they were being difficult. Walked out of the store with the thunderbolt and didn't pay a dime extra (was a hundred more than iphone at the time). They don't want to lose commissions. Also, try to never shop at authorized dealers. Stick to corporate stores.
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My local corporate store has no idea of shipments either, no clue the day before. I bet they had a whole pallet of them out back...
I'm sure the lady I called twice knows me by voice now.
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i bought a samsung gs3 on nov. 8th. couple days later heard about the dna (i don't know how i missed it). i have 14 days to return or exchange and what not. i went to the store a couple times asking about exchanging it for the dna since the preorder is available and the store date is nov. 21st putting me right in the window. first guy said he would have to find out how to do it since it was a new line also and would call me that day but never did call me. then tonight i went back and explained everything and she called him and he said oh you wouldn't like it, the gs3 is much nicer, and he got to play with it and the battery was awful, it would be a real headache for you to exchange it. i said i still wanted it and they said we checked the warehouse and they don't have any yet and we won't have them until the end of the month. saying things to convince me i don't want to do it.
this all sounds more like they just don't want to do it and don't what to end up with a return. i told them people have received shipping notifications, they replied with that's probably not what they meant, they wouldn't be shipping already.
is there a confirmed store date on these? i wanted one before just because i wanted one but now i want one with the added spite of sticking them with a return.
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They are BSing you Ask to talk to the store manager or supervisor.If they won't help call VZW customer service. They have always helped me..
i had no idea this place wasn't a corporate store. they only sell verizon and have nothing but verizon signs and whatnot. i got real hot when i found that out.
I second the "only shop at a corporate store". Seriously, only suckers wander into the "authorized retailers". You can spot them by looking at the signs. It'll say really small under the Giant Verizon banner like "USA wireless or GO wireless or John Doe wireless, Authorized Retailer". I've never stepped foot in one except when I needed a charger in an emergency. They charged me like $30. Yeah, screw them. The corporate stores can handle all customer service needs, and the staff is always more knowledgeable and helpful.
Authorized Retailers aren't always good with customer service or phone problems. I'd only use a select few places for getting a phone besides Verizon (Amazon, Best Buy, etc). There is a place near me that has no signs except "Verizon" with "Authorized Retailer" underneath. People probably don't realize they aren't the same as Verizon corporate stores.
I would return the phone and get the DNA from a corporate store.
Stopped by my local store today, and surprise, they told me they couldn't sell me a DNA because it would be off contract and they would only have enough for the new people to buy if they had any at all.
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I have some stupid verizon stores in my area because none of them could give me an update and one lady didn't even know what it was.
WTF!!!
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I had the same issue.... Was it Verizon corporate you talked to?
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called my verizon store today and they said they had will have them tomorrow for sale, so I will just pick it up before work tomorrow. I honestly don't think they get shipment until evening the night before because I called earlier and she told me to call back in a few hours towards evening and then they will be sure if they will have them tomorrow. Called just now and they indeed said they will have them tomorrow.
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Called another corporate store, both confirmed stock for me and the second one also confirmed they had them in stock and will sell them tomorrow. So you guys shouldn't have trouble getting them at your local corporate store.
after a short conversation with veriszon customer service got things worked out.
the gs3 had to be returned to the store i bought it at and that store would not be getting the phone on the 21st. to save my number verizon did a equipment swap and put my number on a old phone. then told me to return the phone and buy it at a corporate store on the 21st. i still get to buy it at the discounted price and keep my number,
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Stopped by my local store today, and surprise, they told me they couldn't sell me a DNA because it would be off contract and they would only have enough for the new people to buy if they had any at all.
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Their greed is appalling.
I'm about send a six page letter to the Verizon VP of retail operations and customer service. I have never experienced more improper behavior by the hourly employees of any company. Before the V10 release I called to confirm that unlimited data customers could buy the phone on the device payment plan on Nov. 15th. I received numerous confirmations over the phone. When I entered the store they had no idea what I was talking about. Fine, put that on Verizon corporate for not properly informing all the stores of what was going on. After many calls a customer service supervisor indicated that I was correct but that Verizon had not updated its own software to make the change in time. I placed the order online that night as the stores had already closed. When I called the next day with another supervisor they again told me I was correct and would make arrangement to ensure that I was given the device payment plan without losing my unlimited data. I arranged to pick up the phone at an official Verizon store. The supervisor assured me that she would follow up after I picked up the phone to make sure everything was correct.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #1 - that same supervisor went into the notes after the call the next day and left an outright lie indicating that she informed the customer (me) that I would NOT be able to buy on the device payment plan until December. The order was canceled and NO ONE notified until AFTER I walked into the store to pick up the phone. My order was canceled without any notification via email or text, so I basically wasted my time going to the store and making all these calls with the supervisor.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #2 - When I called customer service from wihin the store, another supervisor, who said she knew the first supervisor personally, began telling me that I had no order. I emailed it to her and she began refuting the validity of it and when I asked her to give me the status of the order she admitted she had no way of knowing because she had no access to internet orders, which was not her department. Clearly she was just trying to cover for her supervisor friend. I immediately told her to stop wasting my time, now some 30 minutes after first calling, and connect me with a supervisor in the internet orders department ASAP, what she should have done from the beginning. Unbelievable... they see that you are clearly angered and yet they try to blame you the customer for their mistakes.
I returned the phone after I was told that device payment plan would start exactly one week later. On the day I was eligible for the DPP I purchased a new phone. After spending nearly 10 hours and speaking to over a dozen different Verizon employees I wasn't about to come away from the ordeal without the device payment play as I was assured I would.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #3 - In the store the new phone (#2) was handed to me without a screen protector and a receipt was not given to me.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #4 - when I went back into the store to ask for a receipt, and point out that the phone was not working, a employee passed himself off as being "THE" manager. I asked him if he was the store manager and he admitted he was not. He would not provide me with receipt because the store was now closed although many employees were still inside with some customers. He said my receipt information would be available online, which was false. Even the confirmation email sent did not make reference to the model of the phone that was purchased it only made reference to my old phone.
SHADY BEHAVIOR #5 - The next day I returned the phone and was finally given a receipt. This phone also stopped working properly after a few hours! I called a store near my work to confirm if they had a replacement phone in stock and they said they did. I walked over to the store and they said, after finding out it was for an exchange, that they did not have the phone in stock after all. Huh? I drove over to another Verizon store as no one was picking up the phone (??) and as soon as I walked in I asked if they had my phone in stock. They said sure we have it. I asked them to confirm but they would not tell me unless I gave them my phone number, presumably to see if I was there for an exchange or for a new line activation. I told the guy it was for an exchange and he went in the back stock room and, when he came out surprise, surprise they didn't have the phone in stock. I'm tenacious so I walked over to the third Verizon store of the night. On the way over I called and asked if they had the phone in stock, they confirmed that they did and that they had more than one in stock. When I walked in they tried to do the same thing, as soon as I asked if they had it in stock they wouldn't answer unless I gave them my phone number. But this time I had them on the hook because the guy told me over the phone that they the phone in stock and "PLENTY". The employee that took care of me tried to give me the run around too once they saw it was an exchange. She took my phone to the back room to show it to her manager and confirm the equipment problem. I asked her to tell him to come out as I did not want my phone leaving my sight for long. She said he could not come out..... shady. She comes out with a new phone and I ask her to turn it on before she switches over the service as I want to make sure the screen is 100% operational before I have to go through a third exchange. She says she can't take it out of the box without switching over the service. I asked her if they had more than one of the phone in stock in case there was a problem, and without making eye contact she responds with an incoherent "nu uhh" and head shake. I did not tell her that her own co-worker confirmed that they IN FACT did have more than one phone in stock nor did I ask why they were now singing a different tune. Seriously... this is how a publicly traded company runs its retail operations?
To summarize, I was LIED to repeatedly by Verizon employees. Supervisors lied in their notes to cover up their giving out incorrect information. Verizon retail stores make it deliberately hard for your to exchange a phone. I plan to send this letter to the consumer protection agency run by the federal government.
Somehow I find it hard to believe you where treated this badly by VZ. You had 3 brand new defective phones in a row??
I have dealt with 3 different VZ stores in my area & have had excellent/courteous service from all 3. Sure, we where all upset when VZ raised the price of the unlimited data service by $20 a month (I cancelled 3 lines because of that) but that was not their employees fault.
I owned a retail store for over 20 years & your whole attitude seems to me as being one of those customers that is never satisfied no matter how hard they try.
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^ Yes I can tell you were a retail owner. To make a blanket statement like "your whole attitude" is indicative of that.
You made not a single mention of the outright lies that were told by the Verizon employees but instead opted to put it on the customer or impugned the customer's integrity by voicing skepticism of faulty equipment without any solid basis for that skepticism. You don't know me, and you don't know the track record of an entirely new phone. Have you visited the LG forums to see those who have had to make multiple returns? Of course not. Yours is the typical management response of Fortune 500 companies that are loathed by the public.
Also, there were two returns for faulty equipment, each confirmed at the Verizon store before a new phone was given. The first return was simply my prerogative to take advantage of the device payment plan, as I was initially told by numerous Verizon employees prior to the initial sale. And secondly you fail to address the point that the stores apparently have unethical motivation to make an exchange of their inventory for another location's sale of hotly sought after phones deliberately more difficult.
And by the way, I worked for a five star hotel, deemed the best in the metropolitan area, all through college where we bent over backwards to ensure customer loyalty and to deliver value for premium services. I had to take written tests for AAA certification to verify that I knew all the latest information required of my job and had frequent training seminars to ensure that we were all worthy of the "best in class" title. Verizon like trumpet that they're the best, evidently they don't visit their own stores very often. You know how well your operation is doing when the customer has a problem, and not just for how well they handle mundane transactions. Can your staff rectify the problem as quickly as possible without further aggravation to customer? But ultimately we're not talking about just dropped balls and incompetence here, we're talking of employees repeatedly making deliberately false statements to customers. That's beyond acceptable.
Sucks to be PorscheOscar.
Is there any chance that the humanity of at least ONE employee would have come forth and done at least half-of-the-right-thing by you if you were presenting a good persona?
But I feel for you ... because of course ... ALL the employee's in the store wouldn't have the same negative attitude and manipulate a computer system because the person in front of them was completely rational, respectful and courteous. It has to be some corporate level decision that was sent through the regional representatives and programmed into the one store to single YOU out and destroy your integrity.
I've been disappointed by some of Verizon's products and also their staff before - but instead of finding a manager within the store that supported someone I couldn't get a positive interaction with, I just drove 5 to 10 miles in any direction and went to a different Verizon store.
Good luck trying to get good service from a Verizon Rep based on the computer notes now!
I've been with Verizon for 10+ years (also have unlimited data). I've been pretty happy with their service. I typically call 611 when I have issues rather than visiting a call. The stores #1 (and seemingly only) objective is to sell devices. They have no interest in handling returns/defects/etc. I've actually called 611 from within a store when a sales rep told me something wasn't covered.
The information they told you could have been true and false at the same time. Did they have several brand new V10's in inventory? Yes. Did they have refurbed V10's in inventory to issue as replacements? No. Most companies will not give you a brand new phone as a replacement. A manager can choose to give you one but that's few and far between. Though Verizon (in terms of the big 4 carriers) is your best bet at getting such replacement.
Next time try calling 611. They'll ship you a replacement and give you a return label for the defective one.
All in all, your experience is still better than you'd expect from AT&T. Wanna test that? Ask a Verizon rep to send you a text or e-mail (written confirmation) of something. They will. I've been fighting AT&T U-Verse since July for a bill that I don't owe. Every month they bill me, every month I call and explain, and every month some rep (or manager) has said not to worry and they've removed it from my account. EVERY SINGLE REP has told me they're not allowed to send any e-mails, texts, faxes, or mail...no written confirmation. I got my first collection letter last week. It's my word against theirs. Sorry POS company!
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I've been with Verizon for 10+ years (also have unlimited data). I've been pretty happy with their service. I typically call 611 when I have issues rather than visiting a call. The stores #1 (and seemingly only) objective is to sell devices. They have no interest in handling returns/defects/etc. I've actually called 611 from within a store when a sales rep told me something wasn't covered.
The information they told you could have been true and false at the same time. Did they have several brand new V10's in inventory? Yes. Did they have refurbed V10's in inventory to issue as replacements? No. Most companies will not give you a brand new phone as a replacement. A manager can choose to give you one but that's few and far between. Though Verizon (in terms of the big 4 carriers) is your best bet at getting such replacement.
Next time try calling 611. They'll ship you a replacement and give you a return label for the defective one.
All in all, your experience is still better than you'd expect from AT&T. Wanna test that? Ask a Verizon rep to send you a text or e-mail (written confirmation) of something. They will. I've been fighting AT&T U-Verse since July for a bill that I don't owe. Every month they bill me, every month I call and explain, and every month some rep (or manager) has said not to worry and they've removed it from my account. EVERY SINGLE REP has told me they're not allowed to send any e-mails, texts, faxes, or mail...no written confirmation. I got my first collection letter last week. It's my word against theirs. Sorry POS company!
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1. I'm glad you pointed out the issue about exchanges vs. Refunds. Note to all: if you are still in your two week return window and have an issue DO NOT EXCHANGE. RETURN FOR REDUND ONLY. They will not tell you if you are receiving a refurbished phone. Demand a new phone. I can't believe I made this mistake because I had exactly this same experience 6 years ago with Droid X. They kept giving me refurbished phones one after the other until I was in my 9th return. Verizon have very poor if nonexistent quality control testing of refurbished phones. I'm going to have to give hard thought to returning this phone if they confirm that it's a refurb, even if I have to eat the $35 restocking fee. Given how the manager of the store couldn't be bothered to leave the back room I have no issue with giving him a return.
2. Yes AT&T is bad, Sprint is Worse and Tmobil I once caught red handed doing something shady on international calls which I reported to the State Attorneys and FCC. But Verizon leads them all for expensive service. The expectation of competent and non-shady service goes up. This all unfortunate because I reward straight shooters with long term loyalty. I would expect this from a fly by night Cell phone company but not an established company with millions of shareholders.
Was the Droid X that long ago? I loved that phone.
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I've never had issues with Verizon by phone conversation. but going to a Verizon retail store is a different story. stay away
I called LG to verify I had a new phone and They said it was. Also, while I was in the phone with them I asked about an issue I was having with a set of refurbished LG 900 Infinium headphones purchased on Amazon. I was told that if you buy LG Bluetooth headphones and have an issue they will send you new unit not a refurbished even though they were refurbs to begin with.
I also called Verizon tech support and they claim that if you go in store for an exchange they can only give you new phones as they don't stock refurbs. If however you make a claim over the phone They will send you refurbished units. Avoid that at all costs if you are in your 14 day return window.
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Was the Droid X that long ago? I loved that phone.
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I keep every phone I ever had in my desk as a little museum. I still have my BlackBerry Pearl..the first must have phone all my friends ran out and switched too, the iphone wasn't the first. But the Droid X was the phone I got when I left T-Mobile just to secure unlimited data. When the iPhone 4 was announced still without 4G, I was Android do good.
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I keep every phone I ever had in my desk as a little museum. I still have my BlackBerry Pearl..the first must have phone all my friends ran out and switched too, the iphone wasn't the first. But the Droid X was the phone I got when I left T-Mobile just to secure unlimited data. When the iPhone 4 was announced still without 4G, I was Android do good.
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I sell mine as soon as a better phone is released. That's how I get to try every new phone that will work on Verizon.
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i'm not sure how you got so far as to preorder on the phone then schedule an in store pick up. I called about 3 times before actually going through with a purchase on my UDP line and making sure every questions was answered. I then proceeded to get the phone picked the phone and color then the person couldn't proceed. I was then transferred and they clearly explained to me the deal after again trying and not being able to proceed while keeping the UDP line. I then had to wait til my pay period ended. 3 days later I went to the store and did the actual DPP on my UDP line.
Sorry you had a bad experience. I usually avoid the stores at all costs.
I've had generally good experiences with Verizon stores, but tend to do my business online, simply because I don't have to worry about being pushed or "pitched" anything. Recently, my wife's LG G4 was caught in a bootloop (showed LG logo, then went black). After 3 store reps fiddled around with it trying to factory reset it (BTW, it said "Modified" on the menu, but none noticed that fact!) As one of them was processing the warranty replacement, another guy walked into the store with a G4 and it was doing the exact same thing! Anyway, I asked them if there was anything else I could do since my wife wanted to take photos for Christmas (this was on the 23rd) and the replacement was shipping 2-day. They did offer for me to buy a new phone, but her G4 is 6 months old. Anyway, they seemed very helpful to me and I've never experienced what the OP did--doesn't mean it can't happen, but I would say it's rare.
As a small side-note to my story, I happened to be shopping at BJ's Wholesale during the day on Christmas Eve. In the store, there's a Verizon Kiosk, which is actually run by Diamond Wireless. EVERY SINGLE TIME I've done anything through them, they've been amazing. I guess it actually helps to have some degrees of separation from VZW! I told the guy what happened to my wife's phone. I asked him if I could buy a phone, then return it within 14 days without being worse for the wear--which he confirmed. He then suggested I "buy" the V10 as it has a better camera, etc. Since VZW had already issued a warranty replacement G4, he said they couldn't cancel it, but he suggested that I do a "buddy upgrade" (I have 3 total lines eligible), which I did. Unfortunately, my employee discount doesn't allow payment plan, so I was out $300 temporarily. HOWEVER, LG is giving a $100 rebate (Visa Gift Card). Then on top of that, the replacement G4 that will arrive shortly will be all mine--I'm hoping to sell it for at least $200, so I will break even in the long run. The Diamond Wireless guy walked me through everything, answering all my pesky questions and ensuring everything was done properly. The best part is that my wife has an amazing new phone and took many great Christmas photos with it. I like the phone so much, I'm thinking of switching to a V10 myself... I may wait to see if/what HTC releases next (usually March) and if it doesn't suit my fancy, I'm a new LG V10 owner.
Hell yeah the VZW stores are shady! I had to call CS for 3 months to get a 50 dollar credit I was assured was coming to me. I've jumped from Verizon since then, same bull**** just different source at this point
My experiences have been just the opposite. The instore folks have been so helpful. The telehelp people were clueless about all the discounts on my account and completely jacked everything up. The store manager did some creative genius and my account got fixed. His creativity cost me $35 but it saved me over $1,000 in the end. Everytime I've been in to the store I've had great experiences. I've been in so much recently that I practically know all the employees by first name. (Lots of $300 trade-ins of $10 phones. Thank Vzw!)
I'm not trying to negate your negative experiences as I've seen upset people in the Vzw store every time I've gone in. I understand your frustration and writing the letter was probably very therapuetic. However, sending it probably won't make one bit of difference. The stores are meant for one purpose and only one purpose, sign up new accounts and do phone upgrades. They aren't there to do exchanges like Walmart. If they give you a new phone then that means there's one less new phone in the store to sell. Verizon is a business in business to make money. Exchanging a phone doesn't bring them any new money. Like it or not, that's the facts jack.
If you haven't sent the letter yet then don't bother. You'll probably get a nasty note added to your file.
Op.
You are whats wrong with america, everytime you think you have been wronged in the SLIGHTEST way, You go cry to the better business bureau or aaa or fbi cia dea, obama, whoever will listen to your little violin playing at your pity party.. ...big red is a big companh, they dont give 2 f's about you or your opinion, and neither does the government agency who has their contracted service through big red... Play the game, or get pegged as a pest...and then treated as such
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I'm about send a six page letter to the Verizon VP of retail operations and customer service.
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You can stop right there. Your post here is already tl;dr.
Time to do some serious editing. Ideally, you'll parse it down to a single page. Two pages is the max.
Beyond that, you're into serial killer manifesto territory. The only reason anybody will read beyond the second page is to see if you're just a kook, or if you're actually a threat and they need to report you to law enforcement.
Itt: people who don't know what a sales quota is,so they're surprised a corporate verizon rep is only concerned with a sale. Their quotas are so high their jobs are quite frequently on the chopping block if they take time to actually help customers with issues like this.
It sucks, but that's why I usually go to authorized retailers instead.
There's always two sides. Funny thing is 97% of the shadiness I've seen from T-Mobile AND Verizon was to benefit me. You probably come off as pretentious and entitled over the phone, same as in text.
Sorry you had to go through all that nonsense but its true if its a Corporate store they do not care about customer service I have experienced myself and have been lied to also , its much better to go thru a 3rd party where they will treat you better or customer service and since all the nonsense with corp stores I always avoid them would rather get the phone on ebay or amazon or even craigslist before I go to a corp store cuz all they are interested in is sales vs customer sevices and I have many friends and family memebers with Verizon that have had bad experiences so I beleive you sir and its a shame that it happens cuz they are a huge corp that should not be acting like that and should try to make the customer happy even though there are some customers out there that are worse than the employees cuz they expect to get their way cuz of that stupid saying "The Customer is always RIGHT" which is also aload of bs,Anyways it works both ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!