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Does anyone have a 3rd party charger and/or cable that will work with the TF?
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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wow!
just wow.
bhagiratha said:
I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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No Apple cable will work on this device. The Transformer has a proprietary charger interface, so the cable would have to be made specifically for this device.
Similarly, all Apple product chargers use their own proprietary interfaces, so chargers made for iPhones or iPads will only be made to work with iPhones or iPads, not other devices.
And the funny part is that someone responded...
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Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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Haha, no iPhone cable would not work with Asus. Last I checked, Asus cable was proprietary as well.
Wait a little, soon someone's gonna dismantle one and they will be anywhere (monoprice, ebay)... (i guess(hope), the apple cable actually is everywhere even if it is proprietary...)
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I am also interested in finding that question out. I move around alot, and would like to have an extra charging cable.
Would the cable for the iphone/ipad work?
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cable no, but the ipad charger itself is 5v 2A. Has anyone tried one, if it works may provide an easy solution for car charger.
I would love an additional cable. I'm going on a trip and I could just see me losing the one and only way to charge the Transformer. Stupid proprietary cables. I still love my Asus Transformer, but we need uniformity.
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cable no, but the ipad charger itself is 5v 2A. Has anyone tried one, if it works may provide an easy solution for car charger.
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It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
I think he meant the wall charger (the one you plug the usb ipod cable in...)
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It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
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It is a different size entirely. If you would like me to post a picture I suppose I could, but unless you're going to take a crow bar to your TF to wedge it in and hope the pins magically match, you're SOL. Sorry.
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I believe they're just referring to the charger itself not the apple sync cable. And no that isn't likely to work as the ASUS charger gives out 15V/1.2A on one of the pins unique to USB3
The 6ft USB 3 Male/Female extension cable is now back in stock on monoprice. For those that haven't been reading up, this is essentially an extension to charge your Transformer since the extra pins in USB 3 are used for power.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030309&p_id=6506&seq=1&format=2
Any car charger in the market? Off topic but optimumwifi is getting 6mbps down, 10mbps up on this baby.
Bumping this thread. I find it hard to believe (or at least surprising) that this has been out 3 months now and I still can't find any third party replacement cables and/or 15v chargers. Paying $25 for a factory one is simply not something I can do, it just makes me sick to my stomach.
The most important thing I would like to find is the cable. I did buy a monoprice USB extension cable, which at least makes using the device while charging possible - but it is no solution in the case of this factory cable breaking in any way. I always like to have an extra charging cable on hand, and usually pay $1.99 or less for such things for my other phones and tablets.
need cables
@brunes
I agree with you. This reminds me too much of the original asus eee pc. There were no additional chargers nor expansion ssd (mini pcie) available for months. People were coming up with all sorts of work around ideas. Argh.
The idea of not having a replacement cable and charger does make me very uncomfortable. This is really unacceptable, and I hope Asus fixes it immediately.
I have to think about a post I read: just buy a second one and immediately return it with the bad charger if yours goes bad. This seems to screw the retailer, but hopefully Asus covers their cost in these cases.
In any case, it is a bad problem. I wrote my newegg review to exactly highlight this problem.
Not having a replacement cable is not a very comfortable feeling.
Anyway, an iPad charger does work for the tablet. I don't have a dock so no way to test it.
However, I noticed that using an iPad charger, theTF does not chnage the battery icon to charging and it charges a bit slower.
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However, I noticed that using an iPad charger, theTF does not chnage the battery icon to charging and it charges a bit slower.
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It is charging at 5V. I assume using diodes to charge the cells in parallel instead of series without causing a short. Only other explanation is ASUS put DC-DC regulator in to ramp up the 5V. Only works while off or asleep and is sloooooowww...took me 8 hrs to get 22% charge on 5V USB.
a rabbit just chewed up my new transformer's cable
i emailed asus, but from my googling it looks like i'll have to spend about $40 ordering a replacement cable from a random retailer. sucks!
Check the DIY charger thread link in my signature. With 2 off the shelf parts you can have another charger for under $15.
*Sigh*...
Had the same problem with the TF101... After a while the tablet suddenly wouldn't charge anymore and it turned out to be the cable which suddenly went bad.
Now again the exact same problem with the TF201. This is pretty damn annoying, will contact customer support but am wondering if someone has experience with ebay cables that do work.
Already bought this one: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130678359515&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:NL:1123
But of course that doesn't properly charge either (oh, and I still have an original cable from the TF101 which works fine, so it definitely IS the cable). The tablet responds (turns on) and charges as if connected to USB port of the pc or something but doesn't fast charge. (Pins seem fine, nothing out of the ordinary to be seen).
So also a warning, be careful with charger and cable! Like the rest of the prime it is very sensitive to malfunctioning :/ Quite disappointed that they didn't address this with the TF201 as charger and cable were an issue with TF101 as well.
do you always yank the cable directly to detach ur device from the charger? I've been using mine for a long time now, it's still as good as new and charging well.
The key is to treat the cable like cheap failure prone chunk of crap that will fail. I got a second cord for power immediately. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007LI2QJW/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_dp_1
Just took one look at that thin usb cable to know it isnt built to last.
when I was a kid stuff that was "made in Taiwan" was to be avoided, ironic.
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do you always yank the cable directly to detach ur device from the charger? I've been using mine for a long time now, it's still as good as new and charging well.
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Ehm, nope... I use it with care. Never pull at the cable but just take it out at the connector itself. But I guess you should always keep it in one straight line or something.
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The key is to treat the cable like cheap failure prone chunk of crap that will fail. I got a second cord for power immediately. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007LI2QJW/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_dp_1
Just took one look at that thin usb cable to know it isnt built to last.
when I was a kid stuff that was "made in Taiwan" was to be avoided, ironic.
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Hmmm, nice option... I think I also have a proper power adapter which simply supplies 12v all the time (where the asus one switches to 5V once fully charged). Does that matter? Being at 12v all the time?
This guy seems to have analyzed it pretty well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669
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Ehm, nope... I use it with care. Never pull at the cable but just take it out at the connector itself. But I guess you should always keep it in one straight line or something.
Hmmm, nice option... I think I also have a proper power adapter which simply supplies 12v all the time (where the asus one switches to 5V once fully charged). Does that matter? Being at 12v all the time?
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After I'm done charging, I will keep them in a storage bag. Well TBH, I do fear that it's gonna fail. Coz it looks like a damn apple charger. that weak link
Put the power brick in the freezer for 45 minutes!
It fixes it for awhile.
My cable just went bad yesterday exactly the same way.
Gladly I've had a spare one that I have bought from ebay couple months ago.
I have to get another spare one I think...
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Put the power brick in the freezer for 45 minutes!
It fixes it for awhile.
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The power brick isnt the issue... The cable from the TF101 works on both chargers, the cable of the TF201 on neither. The TF101 one is also from a spare powerbrick I bought coz I originally thought the charger was the issue as well. It's just a very feeble charger and cable, again...
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007LI2QJW/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_dp_1
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This power connection is also a lot better fit for the dock power connector. I always felt like the one that came with my prime was going to fall out of the dock.
I have had the same issue. I bought the TF-101 for my daughter, and the first cable had the insulation sliding off near the connector after about a week. I saw that my daughter would rest the tablet on the connector at awkward angles, so I lectured her about being more careful and bought two more cables. When she went through those in a few months, I bought 5 extra cables. I know she is being more careful with them now, because they still look new when they stop charging. One of the cables I bought never worked. We are now on the last one of the batch, so I just bought 12 more.
It hasn't gone unnoticed that I am financially rewarding Asus for producing a shoddy product. We call that "the invisible hand of the market", right?
One of the things I was really excited about with the Lumia 920 was the built in wireless charging feature. Since the Nokia charging plate was selling for about 70 bucks (ouch) I decided to see what alternatives were available. I've tried two different wireless chargers so far with mixed results:
LG Electronics WCP-700 - This charger works great and I was able to snag it from amazon for 35 bucks shipped. If you want wireless charging but don't want to pay 70 bucks for one charger, then I highly suggest this model. You can get 2 for the price of one Nokia Charger.
Powermat 2x - I was hoping the community could give me some advice on the powermat. Naturally if you plug the powercube into the phone, it will charge just fine. BUT I noticed that if you put a charging plate on the charger and then put the 920 on top of it, the 920 will begin to go into charging mode, although when i tried doing that, it didn't really seem to be charging at any noticeable rate( I may have been taking the phone off the charger too frequently though). Does anyone know exactly what voltage and amperage the powermat wirelessly charges at? My concern is that the volts or amps will be off and damage could be done to the battery in my lumia 920. Any thoughts?
Good questions! I was wondering the same thing about the different mats out there.
What about the Energizer one?
Also, the LG one apparently beeps a lot...does it do so with the Nokia? When it finishes charging it turns off and lets the phone run off battery for a bit, then turns back on to top it off again, causing it to beep each time it turns on throughout the night. Have you noticed this?
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Good questions! I was wondering the same thing about the different mats out there.
What about the Energizer one?
Also, the LG one apparently beeps a lot...does it do so with the Nokia? When it finishes charging it turns off and lets the phone run off battery for a bit, then turns back on to top it off again, causing it to beep each time it turns on throughout the night. Have you noticed this?
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From what I've read, the Energizer QI chargers will work fine with the 920, I just didn't get one since the LG model was a bit cheaper. The LG one does beep, although I haven't found it to be too much of an issue. When I place the phone on the charger, the LG mat will beep and show the green charging icon, and my phone will make the connection noise. I also think the mat will beep occasionally when the phone is charged, since it lets the battery drain a bit, then starts charging again, although last night it didn't wake me up at all while I slept. You could probably remove the speaker from the LG pad fairly easily, although from my experience, it's not bothersome enough to be worth the trouble.
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One of the things I was really excited about with the Lumia 920 was the built in wireless charging feature. Since the Nokia charging plate was selling for about 70 bucks (ouch) I decided to see what alternatives were available. I've tried two different wireless chargers so far with mixed results:
LG Electronics WCP-700 - This charger works great and I was able to snag it from amazon for 35 bucks shipped. If you want wireless charging but don't want to pay 70 bucks for one charger, then I highly suggest this model. You can get 2 for the price of one Nokia Charger.
Powermat 2x - I was hoping the community could give me some advice on the powermat. Naturally if you plug the powercube into the phone, it will charge just fine. BUT I noticed that if you put a charging plate on the charger and then put the 920 on top of it, the 920 will begin to go into charging mode, although when i tried doing that, it didn't really seem to be charging at any noticeable rate( I may have been taking the phone off the charger too frequently though). Does anyone know exactly what voltage and amperage the powermat wirelessly charges at? My concern is that the volts or amps will be off and damage could be done to the battery in my lumia 920. Any thoughts?
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Doesn't the PowerMat use a different wireless charging standard? I thought I read somewhere it wasn't the QI standard.
PowerMat is its own standard.
Not sure where you are, but the plate is $50 and the stand is $70 here.
Might want to try mail-order?
As for other plates, I have a few lying around, but I don't want to risk my phone trying them without knowing. I have 2 plates and a stand, so I am pretty covered.
Philips DLP7210B/10 also works with the Lumia 920.
I ordered a Palm Touchstone off Amazon for $6 and free shipping. I'll know in a few days when it gets here if it works or not, but I read somewhere that it should.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the Touchstone does not work. It makes the charging notification sound, but the battery still drains; it doesn't charge at all.
I have the Maxell Airvolt QI charger. It works but the phone seems to get warm unlike the Fatboy charger I use at night.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but the Touchstone does not work. It makes the charging notification sound, but the battery still drains; it doesn't charge at all.
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Doh!
I really hope someone makes a 12v charging pad to keep in your car. Plug into the cig lighter and lay the phone on the "pad" somewhere in the car. I know the new dodge cars have it as an option now.
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I really hope someone makes a 12v charging pad to keep in your car. Plug into the cig lighter and lay the phone on the "pad" somewhere in the car. I know the new dodge cars have it as an option now.
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There's no reason why a 12v adaptor of sufficient ampage wouldn't work. Just match up the plug and polarity to the DC adaptor that comes with the charging pad.
But obviously a QI charger is not designed for use in a car. QI only recently release their guidelines:
http://www.wirelesspowerconsortium....ermarket-chargers-v-10.pdf?force-download=yes
It seems there are two current wireless charging standards: QI and PMA
Powermat are PMA, and this is a copyrighted licensed standard, i.e., Powermat will get revenue/license on each device. There is a limited trial in Starbucks.
QI is open, and I think a "free" standard. They have public charging spots in Japan, and Japanese handsets are predominantly QI
This is all just what I've recently read, so I'm not an expert or utterly certain it is correct, but it does seem that Nokia 920's are to the QI standard, and so any QI charging plate should work...?
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There's no reason why a 12v adaptor of sufficient ampage wouldn't work. Just match up the plug and polarity to the DC adaptor that comes with the charging pad.
But obviously a QI charger is not designed for use in a car. QI only recently release their guidelines:
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I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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Make sure you post pictures when you do this.
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I personally plan to do just this. I figure a Qi compatible charger hard wired into the car, then find a good place to mount it with a thin grip pad covering it. It should work just fine.
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Ooooo, my Edge has a little 'shelf' under the console that has a ribbed rubber bottom. And it has a 12v plug right beside it. I bet my husband (the engineer) might be able to wire up a charging plate. He would need to shorten the cord so it wouldn't flop around. But he's very good at that sort of thing.
This is a great idea! He works overseas but I think I have a new 'honey-do' for him on his next R&R. Thanks!
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Any thoughts?
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Anything that is a Qi charger should work, it's a standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)
I have an Everyready Qi charger, the 920 and it are happy as clams together.
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Anything that is a Qi charger should work, it's a standard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(inductive_power_standard)
I have an Everyready Qi charger, the 920 and it are happy as clams together.
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Nice! I'll get one too!
tabletop charging
I personally think it would be awesome to be able to integrate QI wireless charging into a tabletop. think about it, when you sit down at a table for dinner, you usually take your phone out of your pocket, right? what if you could charge it while you eat? why doesn't starbucks do this?:highfive:
I just wanted to let people know that Scosche just released a new dual 2.4A car charger. This is not a car charger that splits 2.4A between two ports, but one that has full 2.4A per port. You can charge tablets and phones at the same time. What I love about this charger, is that it sits flush in the car. No stick protruding out.
I used to have their older model, the 2.1A dual car charger USBC202M. I purchased it in May. When I saw that they had this one available on their site, I asked a representative through chat if I could exchange my USBC202M for the USBC242M one. He said sure and gave me the info on how to do the exchange. I only paid the shipping to them and got a brand new item. I did not send the original box or anything. Great customer service!
I will try this later on. I have a dedicated USB charge only cable so I will not run into any of the charging issues that some people might have using a data/charge cable.
The USBC202M and USBC242M are listed as the same price on SCOSCHE's website. The USBC242M is not up on Amazon yet, which is where I purchased the original charger.
Link to USBC242M: http://www.scosche.com/chargers/ipad-usb-car-charger-two-port
Link to the charge only cable I am using (nice 5ft): http://www.amazon.com/Specialised-M...=UTF8&qid=1385138950&sr=8-1&keywords=portapow . I like how it is a little thinner than the Mediabridge 6ft one that everyone seems to be using. And the connections are a little less bulkier as well so I am able to connect with my phone that is using a Spigen Slim Armor.
Pics up soon.
How do you use that micro usb charging only cable with the Note 3?
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How do you use that micro usb charging only cable with the Note 3?
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It's like any other USB cable, you just plug it in to a USB port. It allows AC charging regardless if you plug it into an AC adapter or a USB port on your PC. This will not allow any data when used in a PC.
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How do you use that micro usb charging only cable with the Note 3?
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http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2013/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-usb-3-0-and-microusb-compatibility/
Just look at your Note 3's USB 3.0 port on the phone. See that one slot is bigger. Thats where you plug the USB 2.0 cable into. It will work just fine.
USBC202M
That same model number is on Amazon. it lists it differently though..
Dual 10 WATT (2.1A) USB Ports
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-USBC202M-Charger-works-iPhone/dp/B0077PM3KG
It is only $16 which is a lot less than $24
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I see the difference. The packaging you have a picture of has that Model number listed as USBC242M not USBC202M
The lesser should be more than adequate for the Note 3 as it exceeds the 1.8A it will really use at the most.
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USBC202M
That same model number is on Amazon. it lists it differently though..
Dual 10 WATT (2.1A) USB Ports
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-USBC202M-Charger-works-iPhone/dp/B0077PM3KG
It is only $16 which is a lot less than $24
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I see the difference. The packaging you have a picture of has that Model number listed as USBC242M not USBC202M
The lesser should be more than adequate for the Note 3 as it exceeds the 1.8A it will really use at the most.
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Yeah. I had the original USBC202M that you see on Amazon. I paid that back in May. I contacted Scosche through chat on their website (took about 30 min before someone was even available) and asked if I could just swap it with the newer model since they were selling it for the same price. He just needed the receipt (which showed my cost of $16) when I send my original one. It was done as a warranty exchange since it was within a year.
I know 2.4A is more than enough but this is great if you also wanted to charge a tablet as well. Or if people were running kernels that allowed more than 1.8A charging.
Here's a much cheaper Anker dual 2.4A that I was looking at but hate how large it is. The price is soooo nice too. $11.99
http://www.amazon.com/Release-Anker...5144055&sr=8-1&keywords=2.4a+car+charger+dual
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Here's a much cheaper Anker dual 2.4A that I was looking at but hate how large it is. The price is soooo nice too. $11.99
http://www.amazon.com/Release-Anker...5144055&sr=8-1&keywords=2.4a+car+charger+dual
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The Anker is good and the price is right.
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The Anker is good and the price is right.
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Anker makes quality products. The price is great but I was really looking for a flush look when installed in my car. Most of my interior is black and this is a bright pearl white. Is there an advantage of a stick design as opposed to a flush?
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Anker makes quality products. The price is great but I was really looking for a flush look when installed in my car. Most of my interior is black and this is a bright pearl white. Is there an advantage of a stick design as opposed to a flush?
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Yes, looks aside the compact version is going to run much hotter if both outlets are used at capacity.
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Anker makes quality products. The price is great but I was really looking for a flush look when installed in my car. Most of my interior is black and this is a bright pearl white. Is there an advantage of a stick design as opposed to a flush?
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Spray paint.
KroniK187 said:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/blog/2013/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-usb-3-0-and-microusb-compatibility/
Just look at your Note 3's USB 3.0 port on the phone. See that one slot is bigger. Thats where you plug the USB 2.0 cable into. It will work just fine.
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Yeah I had totally missed that until I saw this thread. After posting the question I looked at the port and saw that it is a two in one port. Just the other day I was bummed that I forgot the N3 charging cable at home. I spent all day reserving battery when I had my S4 cable in my bag the whole time. Doh!
I am getting one of these. So basically this is overkill right? Since 1.8a is max? Does the charge only cable benefit more in any way than a charge/data cable or are the charging amps the same?
Update.
I ended up getting the less amp USBC202M via Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077PM3KG and ordered two Charging MicroUSB cables also from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009W34X1I
The cables are designed for full charge (just like being plugged into an AC charger) but in the car. I can charge my Note 3 and Tablet both with 1800mA each. The cables are straight 6FT heavy cables which are hard to break, and give you lots of room to use the phone or tablet while it is plugged in.
Just like having AC power in the car/truck with fast charge times
The difference between wall charging and usb charging, is that the wall charger ties the two usb data pins together. Phones detect that and charge slower on usb to protect computer ports from high current drain. Good car chargers solder together the two data pins to cheat the phone into thinking that is connected into a wall charger and thus charge the fastest possible.
You could find usb cables that internally connect the data pins, however that cable won't allow you to send data.
This applies to most usb charged devices, like android, iphone, ipad, etc.
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The Scosche does not work with the galaxy s5; the anker does but is larger physically.
I found my dual micro high current car charger on boxwave. It was cheap, and works great. No problems at all. The phone shouldnt pull more power then it needs. If so id check with tech services.
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I found my dual micro high current car charger on boxwave. It was cheap, and works great. No problems at all. The phone shouldnt pull more power then it needs. If so id check with tech services.
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Don't worry. If the charger is required more power than is able to provIde it will just cut to the top.
Output of that plug states 10v 12w
Official note 3 charger is 5.3v 2amp I cant see how this could be good for your phone/battery.
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Output of that plug states 10v 12w
Official note 3 charger is 5.3v 2amp I cant see how this could be good for your phone/battery.
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Where does it say 10v?
Anyway, I've finally bought the Anker 24W, which is compatible with the Galaxy S5, so there are much higher probability to be compatible with newer devices like Galaxy Tab S, Galaxy note 4, etc.
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Where does it say 10v?
Anyway, I've finally bought the Anker 24W, which is compatible with the Galaxy S5, so there are much higher probability to be compatible with newer devices like Galaxy Tab S, Galaxy note 4, etc.
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Second picture in the first post, twards the bottom left.
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Second picture in the first post, twards the bottom left.
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Obviously this is a mistake, it's referring to input voltage.
12V USB Adapter
Input Voltage: 10-16V
USB Output Voltage: 5VDC, Dual 12 Watt (2.4A)
http://www.scosche.com/chargers/ipad-usb-car-charger-two-port
Note that some car chargers allow 12-24V because you can use also trucks and vans for charging. Doesn't seem the case for Scosche.
There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
Thanks!
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There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
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I have used both the EC21 and the knockoff magnetic cable and I do not see a difference in the ones that I have as far as charging is concerned. They both charge at the same rate regardless of which block I use which im starting to think is dependent on how much the phone wants to take in and not so much which block I use. I have tried a galaxy S3 charging block, stock XZU block, and the first gen ipad block and they all show the same charging speeds despite the difference in amperage. Can anyone else verify this for me? I know the ipad block should charge the phone faster since its a 2.1A block, but I am not seeing the speed. I have seen others get charging times around 2 hours and under but mine is no where near those times as it takes upwards of 3 hours to get from 35% to full.
shaolin95 said:
There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
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Since these Chinese knock-offs don't have official names, thus making their identification difficult, we would never know for sure which types people are talking about.
But I have one at home, one at office (EC-21 and copy) and they do charge at different rates.
Even thought the copy version is more user friendly due to stronger magnets, I can tell you that EC-21 charges to the phone to full from any % in under 4 hours. Same cannot be said for the copy, which does have a thinner cable.
I have woken up from a 6 hour sleep a few times to find my phone not fully charged. (yes, all apps were closed and nothing should have been sucking the power)
I have seen 2 variants of EC-21
Ones that come with the DK-30 dock, which cannot charge from USB ports on PC, and the EC-21 sold as EC-21, without the dock. This type has a chunkier USB connector which allows you to connect to PC and charge.
The one I have is the cable-only EC-21
jewelkobayashi said:
Since these Chinese knock-offs don't have official names, thus making their identification difficult, we would never know for sure which types people are talking about.
But I have one at home, one at office (EC-21 and copy) and they do charge at different rates.
Even thought the copy version is more user friendly due to stronger magnets, I can tell you that EC-21 charges to the phone to full from any % in under 4 hours. Same cannot be said for the copy, which does have a thinner cable.
I have woken up from a 6 hour sleep a few times to find my phone not fully charged. (yes, all apps were closed and nothing should have been sucking the power)
I have seen 2 variants of EC-21
Ones that come with the DK-30 dock, which cannot charge from USB ports on PC, and the EC-21 sold as EC-21, without the dock. This type has a chunkier USB connector which allows you to connect to PC and charge.
The one I have is the cable-only EC-21
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this is the knockoff I have.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200964395431
as far as the EC21 cable, I took mine out of the DK30 dock since my phone now fits in between both adapters.
I've never woken up to a not fully charged phone when using the knockoff one. I did notice it took longer to fully charge when I use knockoff at work with generic 1.0A block at work, but that's because I have music streaming as well as instant messages flooding in, so that isn't surprising.
after you mentioned that your knockoff cable had a thinner cable, I checked mine and saw that it was a hair thinner but almost the same thickness. I have attached pictures. is that what you're talking about in terms of "thinner"?
has anyone else purchased the cable that I bought off eBay and can give any other feedback on it?
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How are you guys checking the input power exactly? I tried an app but could never figure it out :/ lol
ij0rgei said:
this is the knockoff I have.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200964395431
as far as the EC21 cable, I took mine out of the DK30 dock since my phone now fits in between both adapters.
I've never woken up to a not fully charged phone when using the knockoff one. I did notice it took longer to fully charge when I use knockoff at work with generic 1.0A block at work, but that's because I have music streaming as well as instant messages flooding in, so that isn't surprising.
after you mentioned that your knockoff cable had a thinner cable, I checked mine and saw that it was a hair thinner but almost the same thickness. I have attached pictures. is that what you're talking about in terms of "thinner"?
has anyone else purchased the cable that I bought off eBay and can give any other feedback on it?
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It is hard to judge whether the thickness of the cable is the same for my knockoff, but I can say that my knock off is not the one you have posted the link for. The differences I can see though, are that the USB connector on mine is smaller, whereas the one you posted has the beefier/chunkier USB connector, suggesting that this cable allows it to charge via USB ports on PCs (the one on ebay you posted has the USB connector part looking similar in size to my EC-21, the version which is not the one included in the DK-30 set). Also the magnetic connector is a bit bigger on my knockoff (probably explaining the better sticking power to my Z Ultra compared to EC-21)
I forgot to mention in previous post that the only factor influencing the charge rate is the cable itself, because I have 2 x original Sony chargers (same model)
shaolin95 said:
There is so much information contradicting this that is hard to follow.
To me the stand is not important but I do want the cable. If speeds is bad on the other or any other risks like being able to connect inverse etc, then I rather pay for the DK30 and get it over with.
Also, I have seen some cheap adapters only to which you can connect any usb cable. That would be awesome but the fact I dont see them mention much implies they are not good...or not?
Adapter
Thanks!
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I bought one of those adapter. Not really a good deal. The magnet isn't too strong to offset the usb weight. And if u aren't careful u could inverse connection and. Well the phone did not die but u do have to reset it for it to work again.
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darth5zaft said:
I bought one of those adapter. Not really a good deal. The magnet isn't too strong to offset the usb weight. And if u aren't careful u could inverse connection and. Well the phone did not die but u do have to reset it for it to work again.
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Indeed. I got one and barely used it.
Just got my xzu. Been reading and searching for a genuine magnetic charging cable. From what I have read there is no official magnetic charger cable made by Sony. So is something like: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Son...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item461de4c1f1 fake?