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This is an undervolt test version of my new StupidFast Kernel v1.2.3. This is a TEST release (NO VOODOO). This kernel aims to be fast, compatible, stable, and have good battery life. It is based on my StupidFast v1.0.36.
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Changes since 1.2.2:
Fix for the 0.5-1.0 second pause/lag opening apps/drawer
Scheduling Tweaks
I/O Tweaks
Changes since 1.1.23:
Stock 1ghz @ 1225mV
Changes since 1.1.14:
Tweaked minfree settings
tweaked io scheduler
more compiler flags for cortex/hummingbird cpu
tweaked wifi scan interval to help with battery life
Changes since 1.0.36:
removed custom boot animation to trim size.
using kernel jhash3 instead of jhash2.
optimized compiler flags for the hummingbird cpu.
changed some kernel scheduling timings.
BLN disabled by default (configurable with [url=http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823922]this app[/url])
You will see that the custom boot animation was removed. It's okay. If you already have v1.0.36, 1.1.4 or 1.1.23 installed on your phone, the animation will stay. If you're new to my kernels with v1.2.3, your old boot animation will be there.
I'm not seeing any lag on the phone. Gallery opens pretty much instantly. Settings->Applications->Manage opens pretty much instantly. Launcher Pro+ pretty much instantly appears when the phone starts up.
Testers could NOT find any audio problems with this kernel using the media player in JT's Clean ROM. I've tested Youtube and Pandora and have had no audio issues. Also, we couldn't find any issues with USB mount/unmount, settings changes, etc.
As always, if you find a bug or what you think might be a bug, let me know. This is NOT the final stable release of the 1.2 kernel. Stay tuned to #samsung-fascinate on FreeNode or @geeknik on Twitter!
Download:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6088006/stupidfast-test-v1.2.3.zip
saps from #samsung-fascinate said that v1.0.36 was "far and away the fastest real world kernels I've ever seen, period"
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Thanks to saps, jt1134 my beta testers and the kind folks that donated cash to the cause! Keep fighting the good fight!
sweet. dowlloading now.
Downloading also.
I like your kernels, but I just noticed I am getting a super weird output in ADB when I try using that. I also have superdark ROM so it could be either one.
Ok, I just rebooted and checked again and all is running fine with 1.2.2 in recovery, but not in running android system, must mean its the rom.
Downloading now.. went with full full wipe with jts clean, and still getting popping, on asop player, double twist, pandora
Besides the battery life which is supposed to be increased, is there any other benefit to UV ???? Longer processor life, runs cooler, etc.
What are the drawbacks, if any ???? Does performance take a big hit, etc.
I'm asking more in general terms. Obviously I will observe first hand with this kernel, which I'm downloading now.
mexiken said:
Besides the battery life which is supposed to be increased I assume, is there any other benefit to UV ???? Longer processor life, runs cooler, etc.
What are the drawbacks, if any ???? Does performance take a big hit, etc.
I'm asking more in general terms. Obviously I will observe first hand with this kernel, which I'm downloading now.
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In theory, as I know computer not cell phone, UV will allow it to run cooler, which does mean last longer (but is that really a problem?) and use less juice while still being as fast as before. If it runs stable you will not see a performance hit and it will better with the battery. It will just freeze your phone if its too low and requires more juice, really no harm can be done, overvolting is more dangerous as that burns up cpus, but you overvolt to make the higher frequency stable. Simple overclocking principals apply, you want the lowest voltage for your cpu frequency.
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Downloading now.. went with full full wipe with jts clean, and still getting popping, on asop player, double twist, pandora
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are you upping the CPU to 200mhz to run those? I am doing that and its just fine, although I never had a popping problem at 100mhz either. I just set the min to 200 because that cleans up a little bit of the lag too.
Possibly related, every once and a while my phone will just decide to press a soft key on its own, what is that? (that causes a slight skip in the music when I am playing it)
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are you upping the CPU to 200mhz to run those? I am doing that and its just fine, although I never had a popping problem at 100mhz either. I just set the min to 200 because that cleans up a little bit of the lag too.
Possibly related, every once and a while my phone will just decide to press a soft key on its own, what is that? (that causes a slight skip in the music when I am playing it)
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see if listening to it while hooked to power recreates the problem... i noticed for me atleast its only when plugged in...
I have it up to USB and its not skipping or popping right now, I am also using mixzing
v1.2.2 is the least fastest of all the geeknik kernels for me. There is 1 almost 2 second pause loading and exiting apps unless it was already in memory.
Still faster then everyone elses kernel. And so far battery life looks to be way better on this one but I haven't had it long enough to say for sure.
Nothing has changed on my audio popping issues so I am still using SetCPU at 200min still. I am short 6 hours of battery life like this by my best guestimate... which isn't a big concern for me- just reporting for those who need to make it thru a day without a charger nearby.
Never had any FC's with USB.
Touchwiz/JT's Super Clean ROM
And a thank you to geeknik for all your efforts! love how your pumping these out!
Kernal runs great! No unwanted sounds from the stock music player in jt's rom. USB works just fine. Thanks for your hard work!
are you using setcpu? if so that helped me fix it bumping min to 200... any one else having the problem might try that...
Interestingly enough, this kernel does seem a touch slower than the 1.2.23 regular voltage kernel. Hangs just the slightest bit when firing up and exiting dolphin browser and xda app. Still, appears to be MUCH better with battery life, as the previous geeknik kernels were ravaging my battery.
Definite progress but not quite perfect imho. Still thanks for all your work geeknik, you're killing it with these.
Also fyi, running custom blackhole, with sns and lp
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This kernel is running fairly smooth, like the other 2. I can deal with the extra 0.5 second delay when first opening an app, as long as BLN is optional and battery life is extended. Thank you very much for taking the time to come up with these kernels for us. Other kernel providers tend to make their products less accessible for us XDA users, but you take the stress out of the search. Thank you again.
Thank you very much for taking the time to come up with these kernels for us. Other kernel providers tend to make their products less accessible for us XDA users said:
This is because these development forums are filled with junk threads, nobody taking the time to read a Lil bit. Its getting worse and devs leave because of it. Not the devs fault at all. Just a point to make: )
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Can someone explain how to get bln. I saw a post about it but can't find it or I'm over looking it like an idiot
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zachsx said:
Can someone explain how to get bln. I saw a post about it but can't find it or I'm over looking it like an idiot
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Re-read the first post of this thread, there's a link to how to enable/disable bln
The uv kernel is a winner of course. I test these kernels for geeknik before he throws them up for the masses. Not just running quadrant [although I do that too] but going thru the real phone stuff itself. The manage applications load, replacing new dock shortcuts, gallery, apps and stuff everything we actually want to see improve with.
I for one never had battery issues with previous stupidfast kernels but I know some did, same this music crackling. It seems to me most of you that do are either running blackhold or deodexed rom though and quite humbly I'd look their for your culprit moreso than the kernel. If there was a music skipping issue from the kernel itself it would manifest itself across the boards but it doesnt.
Anyway, battery life is going to be stellar trust me, under light-moderate use Im only using like 2% per hour here swyping 8-10 texts per hour here, very good indeed
Hey Saps- I see ya on all the forums and your contributions have really helped me out...
That being said I keep seeing an overlook of real world usage in these testings. Can you guys test beyond stock apps? I mean checking stock should be the first thing you do obviously but how many people use the stock music player or the stock browser, etc? I am betting most the people that have the knowledge enough to test these kernels and ROMs aren't using stock functionality and apps.
Please test this kernel with the PowerAMP or Music PlayerPro music apps before writing off the issue.
Use Dolphin to check the internet, etc. Use K-9 to check email, etc.. ya know- use the popular apps during testing also if you could?
Audio cracking, FC's with the USB settings, and I even heard mention of live wallpapers having issues. These reports coming from 3 reported different ROMs.
How are you missing this?
I myself have had great success with battery life on the Stupid Fast kernels. Better then stock kernel for sure. But I've been having to run my battery faster by using my workaround to avoid the music crackling.
JT's Super Clean ROM using TouchWiz
Just suggestions so we can all get on the same page and enjoy these badass mods.
P.S. What ROM are you using during testing of this kernel? I'll gladly switch to fix the issues
I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
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It is argued that task killers and memory killers will only make the problem worse. Juice Defender might be useful if you are using it for scheduling sync and turning WI-FI off when the screen is off, but this feature is only present in the Ultimate edition and you can turn off sync and WI-FI manually if you want. Also beware of rogue apps which are syncing all the time. It is normally the main reason of poor battery life.
Other reason, is that whereas powerful tech specs for phones were rapidly developed, battery technology didn't followed the pace. Our simply batteries cannot cope with our beasts.
Also, there is a thing that it's called "new phone battery blues" which is described as poor battery life due to excessive use of a new powerful toy. After you use your phone normally, for the purposes that normally people use a phone, your battery life will became better.
That said, personally I have a spare battery and a spare charger, and when the battery being used is low, I replace it with the charged one. Sometimes it is necessary, sometimes not.
poch_1421 said:
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
Try using better battery stats, link in my sig, to see if you have any wakelocks, the thread has a good howto on using it.
The biggest thing that uses the battery on this phone is the screen, you will get between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time depending on usage and screen brightness.
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Get the original samsung 2000mah extended battery kit.
ahh the battery life talk again
brings back memories of the first days of the SGS2
never thought of reading one again
update to the newest ROM
and read the 1000+ threads about this topic
good day sir
StevenBX said:
They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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Fair point - not all of the roms are everyone's cup of tea. My advice, as a starting point is to flash the stock XXKH3 variant for your area, and then flash a custom kernel, such as Ninphetamine's or Hardcore's Speedmod. This will greatly help with battery life, and also give you the ability (via root access) to use Titanium Backup to freeze apps and services you're not using, which is often the major cause of battery drain through 'wakelocks'; apps that prevent your phone from entering Deep Sleep, or continuously wake it up.
Update to the latest version in your area, uninstall those task killers and whatnot or do a factory reset, install the apps that you are going to use normally like facebook twitter and install better battery stats, decrease brightness to your most tolerable level.
use the phone normally and when the battery is low, use the tool provided in android to check if your phone is sleeping when the screen is OFF, if you are having wakelocks, then use better battery stats to find which apps are causing the wake locks.
No need to install battery management apps, or task killers or memory optimization apps (or as custom rom as yet), that would only compound you problem which may be a very small one to begin with
Thanks for the help so far guys. I've installed XXKH3 and flashed hardcore's Speedmod kernel, and am just getting things set back up the way I like them again. I'm going to uninstall the battery saving apps for now and see how the battery lasts the next couple days.
I'll install Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on any wakelocks too.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - it was all very simple and quick to get set up; the sheer number of kernels, ROMs, etc. is all a little overwhelming to me right now, being new to Android!
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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StevenBX said:
They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
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wow, good for you
I used HTC Desire before this device, and the roms on there actually hindered battery life, even with all the fancy underclocking, so I am betting, without even attempting to brick my phone, that they are just as overhyped on this phone too.
I get two to three days out of my phone, using it as a PHONE. I can send and receive emails and texts all day, along with phone calls and the occasional browsing and still get at least two days before it dies. I turn off data when I dont want it and stick it in 2G mode and it dares me to kill the battery.
Just let usage settle down and it's fine
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Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Beware using anything that isnt ondemand on samsung phones, can cause stuttering, that's what I found anyway.
As far as undervolting -25 to -50mv is a safe first bet.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
vlad88667 said:
Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
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Use touch x-power 1.0
It is optimized for battery life
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stop the madness.... just disable Gtalk autologin and you'll have x3 batt life....
i'm still on KG2 and see no need to update, as i easily get 2d+ battery life now...
EDIT: oh, and custom roms is for nerds. that's it. stock only.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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That is wrong. I used to have a UGKG2 ROM and since I upgraded to XXKH3, the battery is MUCH better while the GPS pinpoints in less than 3 seconds with a 5meters accuracy.
My wife has been having a bunch of problems with her phone going into sleep of death or freezing so I wanted to install a custom ROM for her but she likes the usability of Touchwiz, the default messenger, and the lock screen. Are there any good ROMs that keep these features but improve performance and reliability?
BTW she is currently using entropy's dailydriver kernel and she hates MIUI.
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Unnamed ROM is the most stable ROM I've used. Its got what she wants Touchwiz, stock messenger, and lockscreen. All boat is removed though so no ATT apps. Check it out.
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BlakDye said:
Unnamed ROM is the most stable ROM I've used. Its got what she wants Touchwiz, stock messenger, and lockscreen. All boat is removed though so no ATT apps. Check it out.
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UnNamed is DEF the way to go.
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All bloat is removed though so no ATT apps.
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You can put back any of the stock apps from here.
Thanks all. I'm going to try that this weekend and hopefully she will have better luck than with stock.
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If she is running stock voltages (e.g. not undervolting) and encountering SoDs with my kernel, you may have a defective device - Try running 100% stock (stock kernel even) without using SetCPU at all. If you encounter SoDs, you have justification for a warranty exchange.
If you encounter SoDs only with my kernel and without any undervolting, I would be very interested to collect more details.
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If she is running stock voltages (e.g. not undervolting) and encountering SoDs with my kernel, you may have a defective device - Try running 100% stock (stock kernel even) without using SetCPU at all. If you encounter SoDs, you have justification for a warranty exchange.
If you encounter SoDs only with my kernel and without any undervolting, I would be very interested to collect more details.
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No undervolting, underclocking, or profiles enabled. Just your kernel and root.
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Test with stock kernel - see if it's the kernel or the device.
If the device still does it with the stock kernel, you should take it in for an exchange.
restored her stock kernel last night. So we shall see if she still has problems.
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Unnamed ROM is the most stable ROM I've used. Its got what she wants Touchwiz, stock messenger, and lockscreen. All boat is removed though so no ATT apps. Check it out.
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Agreed. I love UnNamed Rom and I am currently using Entropy's 1208 kernel and I see a HUGE difference in battery life, speed, and responsiveness (Quadrant score 2600 before and 3800 - 4000 after). Thank you to Entropy and gtg!! BTW, I for one did not like CM7, missing a bunch of features that Unnamed 1.3 has and much less hassle restoring my apps to my liking. Getting google apps back was a pain.
If I may ask a noob question: Anybody here tried UnNamed 2.0.0? How did it go so far? Is it worth going through re-configuring user settings again or better wait for ICS?
cheers to you all.
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Agreed. I love UnNamed Rom and I am currently using Entropy's 1208 kernel and I see a HUGE difference in battery life, speed, and responsiveness (Quadrant score 2600 before and 3800 - 4000 after). Thank you to Entropy and gtg!! BTW, I for one did not like CM7, missing a bunch of features that Unnamed 1.3 has and much less hassle restoring my apps to my liking. Getting google apps back was a pain.
If I may ask a noob question: Anybody here tried UnNamed 2.0.0? How did it go so far? Is it worth going through re-configuring user settings again or better wait for ICS?
cheers to you all.
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I would not wait for ics go ahead and flash 2.0 its awesome!
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Thanks! Very tempted and probably cannot resist! Any good way to get your old settings back as painless as possible? I am using titanium (carefully and selectively...) but its still a little unpredictable and cumbersome.
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Thanks! Very tempted and probably cannot resist! Any good way to get your old settings back as painless as possible? I am using titanium (carefully and selectively...) but its still a little unpredictable and cumbersome.
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If you're talking about Menu>Settings? (volume, ringtone, haptic feedback etc etc) I don't think that's possible. You can restore apps with Titanium Backup, but that's the closes you could get to getting your "old settings"...
Thanks! No, I meant stuff like your email exchange server set up, juicedefender settings, tasker etc. Also, have to go back and set up your pages with apps to your liking all over again.
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Agreed. I love UnNamed Rom and I am currently using Entropy's 1208 kernel and I see a HUGE difference in battery life, speed, and responsiveness (Quadrant score 2600 before and 3800 - 4000 after). Thank you to Entropy and gtg!! BTW, I for one did not like CM7, missing a bunch of features that Unnamed 1.3 has and much less hassle restoring my apps to my liking. Getting google apps back was a pain.
If I may ask a noob question: Anybody here tried UnNamed 2.0.0? How did it go so far? Is it worth going through re-configuring user settings again or better wait for ICS?
cheers to you all.
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I upgraded several hours ago. I did *not* wipe, so I did not have to set anything up again. So far I have found no problems of any kind, no FC's, no apps or features that refuse to work, etc. Of course, I havn't tried everything so far, but gtg did say it would probably work, he just didn't recommend it in his thread because he hadn't tested.
Brilliant! I will try the same thing and report back. BTW, love how you guys support the newcomers!
Done that. Same here, back to how it was without any problems without factory reset/wipe. Question: I don't see a change, really. Is it because I did not wipe? For example swype looks just the same as before (version 3.25.91.30637.t180). Running Quadrant its now consistently at 3900, but otherwise I don't see a change. What am I missing?
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Done that. Same here, back to how it was without any problems without factory reset/wipe. Question: I don't see a change, really. Is it because I did not wipe? For example swype looks just the same as before (version 3.25.91.30637.t180). Running Quadrant its now consistently at 3900, but otherwise I don't see a change. What am I missing?
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This is still UnNamed. Now based on 2.3.6. Some new things noticable, like overscroll glow, and screen rotation animation from ICS. Some things not obvious such as take picture during a call. List of new additions in his thread in the OP. Modifications to touchwiz to optomize smoothness - I can't really tell the difference, except now the windows won't scroll continuously, which is a negative feature as far as I am concerned. gtg said it had to be disabled to improve the smoothness.
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This is still UnNamed. Now based on 2.3.6. Some new things noticable, like overscroll glow, and screen rotation animation from ICS. Some things not obvious such as take picture during a call. List of new additions in his thread in the OP. Modifications to touchwiz to optomize smoothness - I can't really tell the difference, except now the windows won't scroll continuously, which is a negative feature as far as I am concerned. gtg said it had to be disabled to improve the smoothness.
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Just a quick follow up. Using it since yesterday without problems. Battery life (asked on some other threads) is excellent. I would guesstimate 2 - 3 %/hour batter drain on light usage (running JuiceDefender custom settings) which is pretty good. I am not sure what I should be seeing/be excited about when swiveling (sorry). All the apps that I regularly use are doing fine. Looks to me like another solid gtg product. BTW, quadrant hovers around 3600. I am not overclocking, defeats the purpuse of battery saving for me. cheers.
Seconded on Unnamed ROM. Though, the CRT off animation for me is flipped in 2.1.0 -_-
Hi guys.. ive been flashing all kinds of rom and kernel. In the end i find stock Ics with stock kernel gives me both the performance and battery life i need after removing useless start up and freezing unwanted apps.
Had been using the default touchwiz and suprising theres no lag or redraw or whatever issues. Only set back is i cant customize my stock rom.
Battery life wise i can get up to 6 hrs screen time or maybe more. Will post screenshot after i drain my battery.
On jellybean, batt drain is more noticeable regardless using stock or any other jb roms / kernels. Personally i dont like OCing or undervolting so pls dont mention abt those here.
I am wondering who else here share the same experience with both ICS and JB. Would u still stay on ics or jb?
Would love to hear opinions
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stock Ics with stock kernel gives me both the performance and battery life i need
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Says it all really
I've recently returned to stock rom and kernel after trying warnamlite, miui and a few others. Stock is deco the next for battery. I'm getting nowhere near 6 hours screen time though. How are you stopping apps from starting up? Is this by freezing or have you used another method?
unholygid said:
Hi guys.. ive been flashing all kinds of rom and kernel. In the end i find stock Ics with stock kernel gives me both the performance and battery life i need after removing useless start up and freezing unwanted apps.
Had been using the default touchwiz and suprising theres no lag or redraw or whatever issues. Only set back is i cant customize my stock rom.
Battery life wise i can get up to 6 hrs screen time or maybe more. Will post screenshot after i drain my battery.
On jellybean, batt drain is more noticeable regardless using stock or any other jb roms / kernels. Personally i dont like OCing or undervolting so pls dont mention abt those here.
I am wondering who else here share the same experience with both ICS and JB. Would u still stay on ics or jb?
Would love to hear opinions
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You got 6 hours of screentime with data/wifi on with ICS?
Personally I've been getting better battery life with MIUI on Jellybean, but I've also been using Siyah since the first day I flashed my ROM so that might also have something to do with it. I've had experience with stock ICS and MIUI ICS as well, and the battery drain was essentially the same. I'm running a heavily customized JDUltimate though. If you don't want to undervolt or flash another ROM/kernel then JD is a great alternative. I was using stock GB on my S2 with nothing but Juice Defender and I got pretty decent battery stats, though I can't remember them right now.
mwatson said:
Stock is deco the next for battery.
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What does that mean, I don't even know if it is good or bad?
mwatson said:
I've recently returned to stock rom and kernel after trying warnamlite, miui and a few others. Stock is deco the next for battery. I'm getting nowhere near 6 hours screen time though. How are you stopping apps from starting up? Is this by freezing or have you used another method?
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Root the phone. Use ES task manager to remove useless startup. Freeze those apps u dont need with tit backup. Btw i never deleted any apps
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Bodoma said:
You got 6 hours of screentime with data/wifi on with ICS?
Personally I've been getting better battery life with MIUI on Jellybean, but I've also been using Siyah since the first day I flashed my ROM so that might also have something to do with it. I've had experience with stock ICS and MIUI ICS as well, and the battery drain was essentially the same. I'm running a heavily customized JDUltimate though. If you don't want to undervolt or flash another ROM/kernel then JD is a great alternative. I was using stock GB on my S2 with nothing but Juice Defender and I got pretty decent battery stats, though I can't remember them right now.
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Hi .. yes approx 6hrs screen time. With only 3g. But i setted my display to around 20% brightness as im indoor most of the time. I usually use the same setup to test among roms and phones as ive got 2x S3 to play with. One of it is my gfs phone. She plays lots of games so i also hear her feedback regarding the roms and kernels i flashed for her.
I find using auto brightness actually drains the battery more with continus use. I also make sure i got only essential tasks ans apps running in backgrd. Btw i have whatsapp in backgrd all the time.
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Yeah I have my brightness at the lowest setting most of the time as well, as the only time that I'm going to be in bright daylight is when I'm walking around, and I'm not going to be looking at my phone while I'm crossing the street and whatnot I figured that all of those "auto" settings actually drain more battery because of their constant turning off and on and adjusting and etc...it seems like it would consume unnecessary CPU power.
How do you manage which apps run in the background?
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Yeah I have my brightness at the lowest setting most of the time as well, as the only time that I'm going to be in bright daylight is when I'm walking around, and I'm not going to be looking at my phone while I'm crossing the street and whatnot I figured that all of those "auto" settings actually drain more battery because of their constant turning off and on and adjusting and etc...it seems like it would consume unnecessary CPU power.
How do you manage which apps run in the background?
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1. Root the phone
2. Install all the apps / games
3. Use ES task manager to remove unwanted startup
4. Use tit backup to freeze unwanted apps.
System apps like mapservice, secphone, samsung pushservice etc that runs in the background are frozen with tit backup and startup removed by ES task manager.
Result : No useless bloat running in your phones background. Better batt life and performance. I can achieve 300mb ram after a fresh reboot. Stays aroumd 400 to 500 range of ram after a day. Will observe ram a day more as i just flashed stock 3days ago.
But so far so good. Quad benchmark scores are a minimum 5.4k too! Will post screenshots on weekend.
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Here are my ram usage after a days use. Task manager screenshot is proof of what i had been doing with my phone without any restart.
Cant post batt life yet cos my phone is still at 75% lol.
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I went back to ICS cos of battery life I need phone that is stable first! and then battery that can last 12 hrs min with 4-5 screen time, unfortunatly ICS from my experience is just fine.Shame I want JB as well but need to be at least stable as ICS
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goose2515 said:
I went back to ICS cos of battery life I need phone that is stable first! and then battery that can last 12 hrs min with 4-5 screen time, unfortunatly ICS from my experience is just fine.Shame I want JB as well but need to be at least stable as ICS
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Yeah fully agreed. Cos i need my phone for woek. Only draw back on an odexed stock rom is it cant be themed. But then again.. doesnt really matter to me lol.
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I do care if I can change system stuff in the rom but Stability FIRST I just hope SAMSUNG will do it right this time and will provide Stable 4.1 Sammy I belive if you could do ICS stable then 4.1 will be grater for battery as well.Hope the wait for Btu is worth waiting
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unholygid said:
Freeze those apps u dont need with tit backup.
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What is this tit back up you speak of?
Bodoma said:
I'm not going to be looking at my phone while I'm crossing the street and whatnot
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You're obviously not as addicted as me then.. I have nearly been run over countless times cos I've been fiddling when I shouldn't be! (WITH MY PHONE!)
krs360 said:
(WITH MY PHONE!)
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I had a comment all ready and you negated it!
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I had a comment all ready and you negated it!
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An Aussie? Smutty humour? Never!
(I also had a juvenile chuckle earlier when someone said tit backup!)
So far my experience is in ICS's favour.
Ok. JB is latest. FIne.
BUT TELL ME SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN JB AND NOT IN ICS?
I didnt see even a single sort of such think except some added settings in settings app.
Even looks are same.
We can easily mod the ICS rom to make it look better.
For looks and functions of JB, we can use launchers ofcourse!
And personally, in JB, my ram normal usage was 500+MB.
In ICS, with same apps, its 200-300 MB. How and Why? Both stock kernels.
Also, i am used to playing games while charging. In JB, the battery only declined, even while charging when i played game. But in ics, there is charging instead of discharging even when i play games.
Therefore, jb is mess for me! So unstable with lesser battery....
"Like for ICS, comment for JB"
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An Aussie? Smutty humour? Never!
(I also had a juvenile chuckle earlier when someone said tit backup!)
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Yeah, I typed out several replies, not sure what would get me banned but I am sure a couple of them would've been close.
Users want update because its an update not because its better other wise noobs would not have flashed leaked test roms or Polish firmware .
jje
It's kernel 3.0
Junior Einstein said:
It's kernel 3.0
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Even when we had 2.6.x kernel there WAS battery drain
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Guys before flaming, try AOKP JB 4.1.2 Milestone 1 by Bytecode, you'll notice the difference in battery life. It's based on 2.6 kernel
actualy JAVA causes battery drains:
"What’s the worst thing about Android which iPhone does not suffer from? It’s battery drain. With the battery strength most manufacturers are putting in the phone, it appears, 3 years down the line we would need car batteries with the tablet and phones (I’d prefer carrying my CPU on head anyways)! This is one thing where iPhone beats Android hands down and proves its pure awesomeness! But we believe Apple hasn’t put any patent on that word so we can use that for Ubuntu Phone as well.
The reason Android sucks (the phone’s battery) is ‘Java’. Most hardcore tech geeks (aka hackers) call Java a pathetic language. We’d call it (and .NET) a technical eunuch – it is not compiled to binary, it is not interpretable as a script and what do you get – a false sense of security. Yep, under certain circumstances, it is beneficial but then (whatever happened to reverse engineering techniques) a Mobile OS and Java? That sounds like a troubled marriage. Java is one of the biggest reasons why Android under-performs. A significant amount of power gets consumed for the bytecode interpretation. Alright, it is technically not the bytecode as in Java SE/ME and is an optimized and converted version of the same which runs on the Dalvik VM but it’s still far from binary." from here http://www.c-integration.com/blog/showpost.php/75-5-reasons-why-ubuntu-phone-can-blow-away-android
FOR ME, ITS THE GOOGLE APPS, I FREEZE THIS, TAKE NOTE: GoogleServices apk, and GoogleServiceFramework.apk (you will see the wakelock named xxx-gsf or something like, well this is the app).. that works for me, but you are not able to use any app what uses google connect, like youtube, etc!
edinrh said:
FOR ME, ITS THE GOOGLE APPS, I FREEZE THIS, TAKE NOTE: GoogleServices apk, and GoogleServiceFramework.apk (you will see the wakelock named xxx-gsf or something like, well this is the app).. that works for me, but you are not able to use any app what uses google connect, like youtube, etc!
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I'm using google apps on aokp jb, no battery drain
Well,in ics you can flash a 2.6 kernel.I used it too(4d kernel by S'n'S),but not because of battery,but in terms of performance is way better than 3.0.x.However I admit that on 2.6 the battery is a little better.You just have to optimize the phone corectly !
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edinrh said:
FOR ME, ITS THE GOOGLE APPS, I FREEZE THIS, TAKE NOTE: GoogleServices apk, and GoogleServiceFramework.apk (you will see the wakelock named xxx-gsf or something like, well this is the app).. that works for me, but you are not able to use any app what uses google connect, like youtube, etc!
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+1 and google backup service....
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Junior Einstein said:
I'm using google apps on aokp jb, no battery drain
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not necessarily direct battery drain..but cause Wakelocks which increase battery drain
battery drain is, I think, now native in Android, it depends only how bad is it, some gapps make wakelocks preventing deepsleep, and wifi that is really a big trouble with 3.0 kernel, and since we do not have an 3.0 kernel designed specific for O1 and has an increased battery drain(especialy wifi drain) did someone used an special app like SetCpu or CPUMaster that has profile settings for over/under clock that you can set to see if this app prevents wakelocks with 3.0 kernel ?
and, the battery drain is increasing as OC or no ? in my opinion it shouldn't be, or not? a drain is a drain and should be same or is exponential ?
so OC makes CPU drain more, gapps drains too, wifi drains, outch, poor battery, screen drains? cannot read anything on phone in daylight if it's not at max, what does more drain ? some funny apps installed from market for my kids (like Talking Friends, Talking Tom etc) why apps does not really close when you close them? here is an major issue, apps not really closing but run in background draining juice and creating wakelocks
so, my conclusion, EVERYTHING DRAINS BATTERY, oh, and does anyone remember if stock rom has battery drain? I think yes
And YES, the kernel 3.0 is a bit problematic, you notice the difference in the duration of the battery... the deepsleep is not working fine with that kernel!
grigtm said:
battery drain is, I think, now native in Android, it depends only how bad is it, some gapps make wakelocks preventing deepsleep, and wifi that is really a big trouble with 3.0 kernel, and since we do not have an 3.0 kernel designed specific for O1 and has an increased battery drain(especialy wifi drain) did someone used an special app like SetCpu or CPUMaster that has profile settings for over/under clock that you can set to see if this app prevents wakelocks with 3.0 kernel ?
and, the battery drain is increasing as OC or no ? in my opinion it shouldn't be, or not? a drain is a drain and should be same or is exponential ?
so OC makes CPU drain more, gapps drains too, wifi drains, outch, poor battery, screen drains? cannot read anything on phone in daylight if it's not at max, what does more drain ? some funny apps installed from market for my kids (like Talking Friends, Talking Tom etc) why apps does not really close when you close them? here is an major issue, apps not really closing but run in background draining juice and creating wakelocks
so, my conclusion, EVERYTHING DRAINS BATTERY, oh, and does anyone remember if stock rom has battery drain? I think yes
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And YES, the kernel 3.0 is a bit problematic, you notice the difference in the duration of the battery... the deepsleep is not working fine with that kernel!
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i use DS battery saver which forces deep sleep and setcpu profiles.standby battery is great without wifi/3g
standby [email protected] 5-10% per hour.
while using 15% per hour..
hariraj96 said:
i use DS battery saver which forces deep sleep and setcpu profiles.standby battery is great without wifi/3g
standby [email protected] 5-10% per hour.
while using 15% per hour..
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Well ..while deep sleep ..i have 0% battery drain ..
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Well ..while deep sleep ..i have 0% battery drain ..
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OMG ...This kernel is maddening me...
@hariraj96, you're on JB, right? Try getting the Greenify app, then use it to hibernate problematic/resource consuming apps. I find that using Greenify along with CrossBreeder (performance & battery saving tweaks, found here on XDA) helped me get the most out of my battery when using JB (jenkins build).
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@hariraj96, you're on JB, right? Try getting the Greenify app, then use it to hibernate problematic/resource consuming apps. I find that using Greenify along with CrossBreeder (performance & battery saving tweaks, found here on XDA) helped me get the most out of my battery when using JB (jenkins build).
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thanks ..forgotten about greenify...btw whats crossbreeder???
hariraj96 said:
thanks ..forgotten about greenify...btw whats crossbreeder???
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This is CrossBreeder. It's a collection of tweaks/mods that, IMHO, works really well in smoothing out the performance and user experience of a phone like the O1. Simply flash the mod, and you're done, no configuring required. The governor tweaks and IO tweaks are disabled by default, though, so you'll need to enable them yourself (I find that enabling them helps with battery life slightly).
A caveat: CrossBreeder is incompatible with many other mods that do similar things (eg. V6 Supercharger, Seeder, etc.), so you need to remove those other tweaks if you want to try CrossBreeder. You shouldn't have too many tweaks installed at the same time, anyway, since you run the risk of conflicts.
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Oxygen ROM, the best!
You, guys, never tried Oxygen 2.x by popdog123! It's actually the ROM which is the most optimized for our phone! Leaving the 3G on during the whole day, while being connected to my home router only spent 3-4% of my battery! Can you imagine how long your phone can be running on a single charge?! Trust me, this is a revolutionary ROM for our beloved smartphone
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You, guys, never tried Oxygen 2.x by popdog123! It's actually the ROM which is the most optimized for our phone! Leaving the 3G on during the whole day, while being connected to my home router only spent 3-4% of my battery! Can you imagine how long your phone can be running on a single charge?! Trust me, this is a revolutionary ROM for our beloved smartphone
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cheslot98 said:
You, guys, never tried Oxygen 2.x by popdog123! It's actually the ROM which is the most optimized for our phone! Leaving the 3G on during the whole day, while being connected to my home router only spent 3-4% of my battery! Can you imagine how long your phone can be running on a single charge?! Trust me, this is a revolutionary ROM for our beloved smartphone
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Yeah exactly the best and fastest.
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