Hi guys,
before I start: this is not supposed to be a "What's the best ROM?" thread.
I want to update my i9100 to a "stable" Kitkat ROM (if such a thing exists). The major ROMs seem to be CM11 (unofficial), Resurrection Remix and Omni ROM. I have followed the CM discussion for a long time and the Exynos SoC was always an issue to provide a stable ROM. I don't care that much about the ROMs individual features, but I DO want all basic hardware features to work (tethering, camera, etc.)*.
So, my questions:
- Do all these ROMs have the same hardware/drivers related (!) bugs and issues?
- What are the current issues (if any)?
- Can any one of these ROMs be used as a daily driver (i.e. everything working)?
Thanks
Ralf
Edit: Except for TVout obviously.
No.
As far as daily driver is concerned.
And yeah most likely all kk roms will have some bugs.
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I'm on slimkat sabermod by fusionjack, 4.4.2. I'm using it as a daily driver with no problems. As far as exynos problems, correct, all custom ROMs which are not stock based experience the same kind of issues. However I haven't had any problems (reboots etc) since I've been on KK for a week or so.
As has been said many times on this forum.... Flash it yourself and see. What is acceptable to one (say me) is not acceptable for another (say corruptionfreeindia).
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
Can you elaborate on the Exynos related probems? What are they?
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Hello XDA Forum!
I'm a new member in the forum, recently iv'e discovered the inner geek in me and decided to explore the world of roms. (yes im a newbie lol)
I hope to contribute to the forum as much as i can.
Anyway, Here's the story:
I have a Motorola Atrix 4g of course and i'm using epinter's excellent cm 10.1 rom
The only problem i have is that my favorite game Leauge of Shadows isn't working. I had the game working on epinter's cm 10 rom based JB 4.1.2 with 2.6 kernel and the game works on other JB roms with 2.6 kernel. So i believe the problem is with the kernel. With the current kernel i have ( 3.1.10) the game start but crashes alot and touchscreen doesn't work.
So my question is, is there anyway to run this game? can i run a specific app in a 2.6 kernel will my device has 3.1.10?
I've tried to install diffrent kernel but failed to install for some reason.
Any help will be much appriciated!!
Hi! Welcome to the forums!
Short answer: Not yet.
Long answer: As you should know, anything with the 3.1 kernel is considered an (not so) early stage alpha. It isn't meant to be used as a daily driver, only as testing and development. Right now, the focus of the development is set into modem drops and audio issues, once all basic things are working, then they can focus on other things, like the issue you have.
Also, kernel is the main piece of software any device (computer, smartphone, etc) uses. on windows xp, the kernel is ntkernel.exe, on linux and android is vmlinuz.
So far the only solution is to install a rom that doesn't use the 3.1 kernel, such as cm10 (not 10.1), cm7 or early iterations of atrics
Thanks!
andresrivas said:
Hi! Welcome to the forums!
Short answer: Not yet.
Long answer: As you should know, anything with the 3.1 kernel is considered an (not so) early stage alpha. It isn't meant to be used as a daily driver, only as testing and development. Right now, the focus of the development is set into modem drops and audio issues, once all basic things are working, then they can focus on other things, like the issue you have.
Also, kernel is the main piece of software any device (computer, smartphone, etc) uses. on windows xp, the kernel is ntkernel.exe, on linux and android is vmlinuz.
So far the only solution is to install a rom that doesn't use the 3.1 kernel, such as cm10 (not 10.1), cm7 or early iterations of atrics
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Thanks for the answer!
I'm not exactly sure whether this belongs to the general sub or not, do correct me if I'm posting this at the wrong place.
Anyways, what is in your opinion the best third party ROM at the moment for the device?
I had stuck with Carbon for half a year, it worked great but had minor issues that won't be resolved or can't be resolved in future update such as Bluetooth issues and YouTube playback issues.
I switched to BlissPop, ended up with endless bugs and crashes, thus I'm considering switching again. But I don't know what to switch to that's completely bugless, or at least, only have very minor bugs and feature rich. KK or L preferred
So, what's your choice?
I don't think there is one.
I have been trying quite a few with the help of multirom though in the last week or so bliss pop, validus, and then the whole system fell over. I couldn't boot. Blinking red led when I plugged charger in. I digress.
Vanir or validus. I'm leaning towards validus slightly at the moment.
I will definitely try a stable version of slimlp when available. Assuming I've not completely broken my phone by then.
Team UB is my new daily.
I like Validus over other roms.
here is my answer
I don't know exactly why I choose these ROM to be the best.I separate it into 3 base.Stock , KK and LP
On KK based:AOSB 1.3.7 (feature)and FXP CM11(most stable AOSP based ROM ,ever!)
On Custom Stock:StoneUI HD3(debloated and DoomKernel-ed , waiting for its HD4)
On LP based: DirtyUnicorn(I still using this cause its stable in my opinion and for waiting StoneUI HD4 to arrive)and CyanHacker(my first LP ROM but I just use it for a week)
Conclusion:Search your own taste,mate!(even though your taste change like your mood)
P.S:I just realize z ultra is ridiculous whenever using material design and PhoneUI instead of PhabletUI
Sincerely
8_Incher
i'm using the latest slimkat (build 9?)
it's been my daily driver since release
I am using:
Cyanogenmod 12 Android 5.0.2
AOSB 1.3.7 Android 4.4.4
and Stock Rom Android 4.4.4
I think the Best of this is Cyanogenmod 12, I am using Multirom
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CM dropped official support due to kernel stability issues. I remember we were discussing ROMs. 7.2 was, according to CM, the last stable version. Due to all the changes when everything became 4.0, the kernel became unstable on our device. Our devs have created a kernel that is stable enough for daily use, but not stable enough for an official CM. You do have CM9, 10, 10.1, 10.2, and 11 that are stable. CM12 needs work before being recommended for daily use.
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Thanks for the information, glad to see that i can still get support for this device. :good:
I'm trying to get general information for the last 2 days, reading especially the Q&A and development sections in the forum . If i understood correct;
* There's a new kernel being developed named as [KERNEL] [3.1.10] as you mentioned in your post. This new kernel seems nearly perfect, it just has these 3 downsides regarding the given information on its own topic:
1) HDMI [post-poned] (Nvm, I don't need it)
2) Fingerprint ROM Libs+Framework [work in progress] (Nvm, I don't need it)
3) Flash [work in progress] (Camera flash? It would be nice, but still not mandatory for me)
So i thought i could try the newest unofficial CM releases based on this new kernel. I checked the most-used ones in the development section for CM11, CM10.1, CM10, CM9. But i learned a very disappointing thing in the posts. If it's true, although bluetooth is operable for data transfer, it is NOT working for voice, meaning that i won't be able to use it in my car. :crying:
Other negatives are not that important, but GSM calls over bluetooth is very necessary for me. Because it's a security issue, as most of all need to use our phones while driving! So i regrettably had to eliminate the CM Roms which use this new kernel for now!
I need a Rom that is stable enough and has a wide hardware support such as necessarily:
1) Calls over bluetooth
2) GPS
3) Wi-fi tethering (USB tethering is not important)
Plus; android version must be new enough to support some of the applications. I found out that i need at least CM10 (Android v4.1) for the applications that i need to install.
At the end i can summarize my choices as follows:
* CM7.2 based Roms: All of them seem very stable, but some of my applications doesn't work on Android 2.3, so negative.
* CM9 based Roms: New kernel or not, Android v4.0 is old for a few of my applications. So, negative.
* CM10 based Roms: "CM10 (JellyBean) for Atrix" from @epinter seems very appropriate for me. It doesn't use the new kernel and Android v4.1 is sufficient (recent enough) for my applications. POSITIVE
* CM10.1 based Roms: "CM 10.1(Android 4.2) for Atrix" from @epinter could be very good, but it uses the new kernel. So, negative.
* CM11 based Roms: "CM 11 ( Android 4.4.4 ) for Atrix (BigPart)" from @Zn7mkUKzN1r8aCIV would be perfect, but i think it also uses new kernel, as it's indicated that ".BT phone call" is NOT working. So, negative.
* CM12 based Roms: I saw the "Mokee For Atrix 4g (Android L 5.0.2) (preview)", but as you see, it's not an option for me yet. So, negative.
If i didn't misunderstood what i've read till now, the most appropriate Rom seems;
"CM10 (JellyBean) for Atrix, By epinter" for me.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781970
I think it would be better for me to continue on its own Q&A thread, I don't want to ruin this CM7.2 thread anymore.
Please share your opinions, i really need your advises.
EDIT: Oopss, basic kernel on CM10 seems lacking HW acceleration. So, i can't play NFS Most Wanted, Dead Space, Max Payne etc. games properly, right? What about navigation apps like iGo, Sygic, etc?
EDIT: This post was originally in the "CM7 Q&A" section and moved here as a seperate thread. My aim is not to find the "Best Rom ever" etc., i just seek for a Rom that's similar to the current awesome CM7, which fits my needs. I think i could find the best title for this post.
Hi
well I have no experience with Custom-ROMs, so can someonePlease explain to me
where exactlythe difference between Official ROMs and Unofficial ROMs is ?
What would you recommend in terms of stability
thanks
This is what I believe it means, using CyanogenMod as an example (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod).
AFAIK the CyanogenMod team develop their custom rom for a generic platform. They then select a number of devices and customize the generic version so it can be applied and used on these selected devices.
An official CyanogenMod ROM is when the CyanogenMod team have selected the device and done the extra work for the custom ROM to work on that device themselves.
Unofficial means that the extra work to tailor the custom CyanogenMod ROM for the device is done by other developers, who use the generic base which CyanogenMod provide.
To my understanding its more like sub-beta, directed mainly for flash freaks (count me in).
Regarding stability some official ROMs are far from stable, while some unofficial are ages in front.
Thanks guys for the great explanation....appreciate it...
well , During my search for a good ROM software I have often read that the 2 Roms was s always recommended
1. Temasek
2. LiquidSmooth
i mean are both roms really good and stable on s3?
or would you recommend something else
thanks
I would recommend CM12.1 as a daily driver. Is clean and fast. It works way better than stock Samsung ROMs and is very stable thanks to @JustArchi. It also drain less battery and has a good power save feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-i9300-t3254215
My current setup is this:
Recovery: TWRP
ROM: CM12.1
Kernel: Boeffla
And never been happier with my i9300
Hi
I have the latest version temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM12.1 v18.0 flashed + PA-GOOGLE APPS Plus GOOGLE STOCK PACKAGE
and I must say it really makes a great impression, everything seems stable so far.....
well the only thing that bothers me is the (ugly white background in Android Lollipop)but its just a matter of taste :silly:
Plus the newer builds of CM12.1 have OTA updater working.
How would you estimate the stability and performance of CM12.1 ROM's compared to official CM11 nightlies?
Flashed official CM11 once. Within 30 minutes of testing a had plenty of crashes and several Cannot connect to camera.
Lot of people here say that there is no need to move to Lolipop, because Kitkat is far more stable.. However I wouldn't agree.
I wanted to ask, witch Roms are stable and support all features of Kenzo.
It seems that in several Roms there are different Problems,
from wakelocks and Battery drain,
over Wifi Problems
to missing Fingerprint or VolTE support.
Is it a Problem with Android 6.0 or also with 5.1 based Roms?
This should be in the Questions & Answers section. However, I have official CM 13.0 and I haven't encountered any of the problems that you mentioned above. If you read instructions carefully and understand what you're doing, you won't have any trouble as long as the rom you are flashing supports those features. If you head over to the Android Development section, you can see the features that each rom does and doesn't support. If the OP says it is supported but you can't get it to work, then the problem comes from your side. Before flashing make sure you have read and understood the required steps and have taken all the necessary precautions to avoid ending up with a "bricked" device. Let me know if you have any trouble.
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This should be in the Questions & Answers section. However, I have official CM 13.0 and I haven't encountered any of the problems that you mentioned above. If you read instructions carefully and understand what you're doing, you won't have any trouble as long as the rom you are flashing supports those features. If you head over to the Android Development section, you can see the features that each rom does and doesn't support. If the OP says it is supported but you can't get it to work, then the problem comes from your side. Before flashing make sure you have read and understood the required steps and have taken all the necessary precautions to avoid ending up with a "bricked" device. Let me know if you have any trouble.
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Thanks for your reply,
yes i know what im doing (had Nexus 4 and flashed it more than a hundred times).
I normally check first post (+ following from OP) and the last sites of the Thread to see if there are bugs or not (cause "no bugs" in OP-Thread is not always correct).
But if CM13 is, so far, bug free and full featured (fingerprint and so on) than i will give it a try.
DarkAlucard said:
Thanks for your reply,
yes i know what im doing (had Nexus 4 and flashed it more than a hundred times).
I normally check first post (+ following from OP) and the last sites of the Thread to see if there are bugs or not (cause "no bugs" in OP-Thread is not always correct).
But if CM13 is, so far, bug free and full featured (fingerprint and so on) than i will give it a try.
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It is. I've been using it for almost 1 month now, and I can say it's probably the most stable and complete rom for me. I also flashed the CM 13.0 supported firmware along with Radon Kernel and the device is blazing fast. As for the battery, I can get 1 week+ with minimal usage, and about 2-3 days with heavy usage which is pretty impressive for a hexa-core device with a 1080p screen.
jimakos98 said:
It is. I've been using it for almost 1 month now, and I can say it's probably the most stable and complete rom for me. I also flashed the CM 13.0 supported firmware along with Radon Kernel and the device is blazing fast. As for the battery, I can get 1 week+ with minimal usage, and about 2-3 days with heavy usage which is pretty impressive for a hexa-core device with a 1080p screen.
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I was wondering about this "firmware" thing, never had to upgrade any software. Normaly just flash the Rom.
I was also wondering what's the difference to the unofficial CM13
DarkAlucard said:
I was wondering about this "firmware" thing, never had to upgrade any software. Normaly just flash the Rom.
I was also wondering what's the difference to the unofficial CM13
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Well, if you are going to flash this rom you are going to have to flash the appropriate firmware too, since CM is based on it. If you flash the rom without flashing the firmware, you might end up with missing options in settings (I tried this and the "fingerprints" tab was missing). As soon as I flashed the firmware everything got fixed. Also, an official rom means that it is developed by a member or a group of members that have created the original project, while unofficial roms can be built by anyone. For example I can take a CM build and customize it the way i want and then release it to the public. This makes it an unofficial rom, since I'm not a member of the CM development team. But if a rom or an update releases on the CM website, then it is considered to be official.
By the way about the VoLTE support, quoting from OP Q&A:
Q) Is VoLTE supported? (Also useful if you have GApps related problems).
A) No. We use all proprietary blobs from MIUI Marshmallow alpha 'leaked' builds and those builds itself do not have it working. So we'll have to wait until Xiaomi fixes it in their marshmallow builds in future. Also we can't fallback to old LP radio blobs/libs and are not suited with current setup. #blamexiaomi
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I guess you'll have to wait for Xiaomi to release a stable working MM build if you want voLTE support. :/