[Q] ADB root access on unrooted device? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an UTOK 700Q tablet running android 4.2.2 and the manufacturer has made an update to the firmware that requires a full wipe but i want to backup some apps before that.
I've found a way to do a full backup on android via adb on an unrooted device, but is a bit tedious (currently in progress) and while doing it i've noticed that adb has root access:
Now this made me wonder if i can just install titanium backup from adb with root permissions as a system app (or something, not really sure if it's correct, but i hope you understand what i want) so i can backup my apps easier from there.
Also, as a side note, using root checker i see that busybox and su are installed but no SuperUser is found, what does this really mean?

From what I have seen, some manufacturers root the device from beginning (in case of tablets). This might be the case with Your tablet too.

Could be something, but if i install titanium backup (or any app that requires root) it says it couldn't find root, I'm guessing it needs the SuperUser app too, but just installing from market doesn't work.

dany123i said:
Could be something, but if i install titanium backup (or any app that requires root) it says it couldn't find root, I'm guessing it needs the SuperUser app too, but just installing from market doesn't work.
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[Q] install apk as system app

Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
I know that the Z4 root app has an option for temp root functions which goes back to an unrooted state once you reboot.
My guess is that you can run that, place your apk in the appropriate system folder, install the apk from there & then reboot.
But again I'm not to sure if temp root functions work on our G-Tabs & if it does if it's as simple as I explained. Worth a try I guess.
Again I'm assuming that your not already in a permanent root state. If so then you'll have to unroot completely first & then try what I mentioned above.
Unless someone has an easier method?
convert user apps to system apps
nikt said:
Is there a way to install an apk as a system app? I want to 'unroot' a device but still run an app that requires root access. I'm unsure of how this can be done, any advise would be very much appreciated!
Thanks
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Titanium Backup Pro (paid version 3.8.1 and higher) has a function that allows one to convert user apps-->system apps (as well as system app-->user app ... though this sometimes causes initial FCs, which generally disappear with reboot).
Not sure if the effect will remain after unrooting.
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
pmcnano said:
Just to clear up a bit, not because an app its on /system it will have root access. If you want to run an app that needs root, you need root, thats it. You cant unroot and use the app after that.
So, no you cant do that. Its 2 different things installing an app on /system than having root for an app.
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So then how do proprietary apps like Sprint Nascar (as an example) run on an unrooted phone?
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
pmcnano said:
Why would Sprint Nascar need root permision?
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It probably doesn't or it might I have no idea. The op never pointed out which apps he wants to use.
However & this is a big however, as I have no idea which apps require root access, one has to assume that any of the preinstalled apps that come on our G-Tabs do in fact need root access, yet they can run on an unrooted device. Again I could be wrong.
That being said, how does one go about determining which apps require root access?
Thanks for the replies guys. The issue is supporting proxy servers on unrooted devices. There are several proxy apps that require root access as well as a kernel that supports proxy. If the proxy app were installed as a system app, would this have enough rights to access the kernel as required? I don't know enough about this but was led to believe this might work if it was running as system. Same for apps that use CIFS, like mount manager. I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens...!
Like I said, being installed on System doesnt have anything to do with having root or not.
Im 95% sure about what I am saying.
edit: I confirmed it..so 100% sure, if the app needs root, you will need root no matter where the app is installed.

[Q] what exactly happens during the rooting process?

I'm aware what rooting is and I'm benefiting from it on daily basis on my GT-I9100. However, what exactly happens during the rooting process? As I understand, (often) custom recovery(for example Clockworkmod recovery) is installed, an application for managing programs which might need root access(for example SuperSU) is installed, su utility for switching to root user is installed, but what else happens? Are there some file permissions changed during the rooting process?
All I know is I had to install supersu from playstore after rooting and then downloaded rom manager to get clockworkmod but idea I got was the rooting itself strips security from phone so that you can gain full access that samsung otherwise blocked. I havent looked in depth to see anything that the root itself installed but hey im a newbie with this sort of stuff
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m4rtin86 said:
I'm aware what rooting is and I'm benefiting from it on daily basis on my GT-I9100. However, what exactly happens during the rooting process? As I understand, (often) custom recovery(for example Clockworkmod recovery) is installed, an application for managing programs which might need root access(for example SuperSU) is installed, su utility for switching to root user is installed, but what else happens? Are there some file permissions changed during the rooting process?
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You can install all these great programs from the Play Store that require root, also you have manual access (through file explorer) to your system files like frameworks, stock sounds, built-in apps and more. You can disable the annoying ads in the games, you can backup your app data (like progress in games, so you don't have to start over and over again), you can backup settings, change the system look (icons, sounds etc.) and much more. Otherwise you won't see any interface changes or unlock some hidden options. :laugh: Everything is done through the programs.
^The guy knows what you can do with root, he's asking what the details of the rooting process are.
I don't know either but I think you basically unlock the boot loader, then install SU.
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LeighR said:
^The guy knows what you can do with root, he's asking what the details of the rooting process are.
I don't know either but I think you basically unlock the boot loader, then install SU.
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Yes, sorry, at second reading I understood him. My bad.
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m4rtin86 said:
I'm aware what rooting is and I'm benefiting from it on daily basis on my GT-I9100. However, what exactly happens during the rooting process? As I understand, (often) custom recovery(for example Clockworkmod recovery) is installed, an application for managing programs which might need root access(for example SuperSU) is installed, su utility for switching to root user is installed, but what else happens? Are there some file permissions changed during the rooting process?
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At a high level the following changes (and a few more I cant think of) are made to the device:
Access to previously read-only areas of memory are changed to read-write
A binary called busybox is pushed to the handset (the location varies depending on rooting method used)
Busybox is a set to linux like tools compiled spercifically for the CPU of the device (usually ARM)
The SuperUser or other 'Gate Keeper' application is installed to allow and monitor access to the busybox binary (this is optional but is normally done by default and is required for most root apps to function.)
In essence, your original post is almost spot on.

I need clockWorkMod SuperUser apk please

Hi, when cwm SuperUser done a update to app and binaries the root not work in my device, can someone give me SuperUser cwm.apk v0.9 or some work please, i searched but I didnt found
fernan2001 said:
Hi, when cwm supersu done a update to app and binaries the root not work in my device, can someone give me supersu cwm.apk v0.9 or some work please, i searched but I didnt found
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http://download.chainfire.eu/204
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Very thanks for answer, but the link is a .zip and I want an apk or can I put it (.zip) with default recovery and not have problems?
Extract that zip, apk is in there
Tapped from my RazR
DumbleCore said:
Extract that zip, apk is in there
Tapped from my RazR
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thanks now I understand I dont knew that...but the apk is not that, I tested that app and not worked because I dont have root chainfire installed , the super user that I have is SuperUser of ClockworkMod, I need a previous version.
fernan2001 said:
thanks now I understand I dont knew that...but the apk is not that, I tested that app and not worked because I dont have root chainfire installed , the super user that I have is SuperUser of ClockworkMod, I need a previous version.
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Look man, superuser is ROOT. Either your phone is rooted or it is not. A rooted phone can run apps that require it like ClockworkMod ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Greenify, Wireless Tether for Root Users, File managers like Root Explorer or ES File Manager if you want to be able to access the system areas of the phone. So far as I know, there is no "SuperUser of ClockworkMod". If your phone is rooted (You will see superuser or "Super SU" in your app drawer. Here is a free app from the playstore that will tell you if your phone is rooted or not.
Root Checker
Install it and use it to see if your phone is still rooted or if you lost root somehow. If you still have root, then when CWM starts, it will ask for root privileges and the first time it asks, you will be prompted to grant it, once, for a certain time period, or forever. For stuff like CWM, root file managers, and Titanium Backup, you always grant root forever and you will not be asked again until the app updates and requires you to okay granting root privileged or not, then you grand forever and leave it alone.
If you find out you do not have root or lost your root, then you have to root the phone and the procedure is different for different devices, versions, and ROMS. For that kind of help, you have to search for rooting <your particular device and android version number>
Ohmster said:
Look man, superuser is ROOT. Either your phone is rooted or it is not. A rooted phone can run apps that require it like ClockworkMod ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Greenify, Wireless Tether for Root Users, File managers like Root Explorer or ES File Manager if you want to be able to access the system areas of the phone. So far as I know, there is no "SuperUser of ClockworkMod". If your phone is rooted (You will see superuser or "Super SU" in your app drawer. Here is a free app from the playstore that will tell you if your phone is rooted or not.
Install it and use it to see if your phone is still rooted or if you lost root somehow. If you still have root, then when CWM starts, it will ask for root privileges and the first time it asks, you will be prompted to grant it, once, for a certain time period, or forever. For stuff like CWM, root file managers, and Titanium Backup, you always grant root forever and you will not be asked again until the app updates and requires you to okay granting root privileged or not, then you grand forever and leave it alone.
If you find out you do not have root or lost your root, then you have to root the phone and the procedure is different for different devices, versions, and ROMS. For that kind of help, you have to search for rooting <your particular device and android version number>
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Thanks for answer, well I thinked that too, because my phone cant use root privileges if the aplication superuser isnt installed, however with te superuser aplication my phone have root privileges but with the previous version, with actual version my phond dont have root, even the people in google play say the same "with the new version my phone losed root" and similars comments...
maybe the root version (clockWorkMod) work in this way and need the app for work.
maybe this one??? http://d-h.st/l91
DumbleCore said:
maybe this one???
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Thanks DumbleCore! I have root again
fernan2001 said:
Thanks DumbleCore! I have root again
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Solved it? No problem

[Q] How should I go about rooting my Prestigio 5450 DUO?

I have searched the web for rooting this kind of phone, and I have not found anything. All I know is that it's possible, since this guy did it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641478
I presume it's the same as for the older versions, but I want to make sure.
OS version: 4.2.2
Kernel Version:3.4.5
Thank you.
According to this: http://www.srsroot.com/\supported your device is supported.
And how does this work?
This does not work, I tried it, and it said the rooting was complete. After I tried to install some root apps, they did not work. So I tried it again, but it says that I do have root access.
Hmm. Which superuser app did it install? It's not uncommon to need to either update the superuser app and / or update the SU binary (should prompt through the app if needed). Go to the Play Store and see if there is an update to the app, then open it and see if it prompts you to update the binary as well. If you don't have the Play Store on your device, just let me know which version of the SU app was installed and I'll see if there's is an update available. I don't get the chance to mess with many off brand products like this, so do not have direct experience, just tons of android experience in general.
Found some more info from a random Russian site (via Google Translator) http://translate.google.com/transla...rch?q=prestigio+duo+5450+CWM&espv=2&es_sm=122
Might try and install CWM recovery and flashing Chainfire's SuperSU zip if all else fails.
I used SRSroot if that is what you are asking.
If you are asking about what app I downloaded to test it, I used titanium, which told me that it could not access the root. I just downloaded it.
Augs said:
I used SRSroot if that is what you are asking.
If you are asking about what app I downloaded to test it, I used titanium, which told me that it could not access the root. I just downloaded it.
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No, was referring to which Superuser app was installed during the root process. Typically this should be either Koush's SuperUser or Chainfire's SuperSU. And test with another app as Titanium can be a little weird with root access on some devices as well as needing Busybox to run properly and not all root methods also set up Busybox. Try any of these: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=rootchecker
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Hello,
I have Prestigio Multiphone PAP4300 DUO, I tried all rooting crap and it didnt work. BUT one did worked. It is used on PC. You connect your phone to pc and then run the program, and choose which method you want to use(depends on phone). After some tries it worked. I dont remember what was the software called, but if I find it, I will surely edit my post.
There was no program installed during the rooting process.
Augs said:
There was no program installed during the rooting process.
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Then VERY unlikely it worked. You can doublecheck and install this and see what it says: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu . It'll most likely say you are missing the SU binary and fail to install it for you without proper root. Other options include CWM recovery and a custom prerooted rom.
Rooting
If you still nid a root for PAP5450Duo I have this phone and this root app worked: download Framaroot 1.9.3 (use the Boromir exploit).

[Q] conflicting root messages

I've downloaded several root checker apps, and the all say I do not have root access, but I have root only apps installed, like greenify ad titanium backup. Whats happening here?
STEEPO said:
I've downloaded several root checker apps, and the all say I do not have root access, but I have root only apps installed, like greenify ad titanium backup. Whats happening here?
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Your device may not be fully rooted. Which means that you have the app installed but the binary is not. Download Terminal Emulator from the Play Store. Then open it and type "su" (without quotes). If you get a new line saying "[email protected]:/ #" then you are rooted. If it says something like "su: not found" then you don't have the binary and you have to install it either via the superuser/supersu/other app (if you have a custom kernel with system write protection off, such as KofilaKernel or other) or by flashing a zip with the binary in recovery (you can find it here).

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