Most of us are somewhat familiar with how apps2sd works on Froyo. It does not use a sd card partition like the ones we are used to. All system apps, apps you run widgets from, homelaunchers, etc need to be saved on internal memory (you don't have a choice with the system apps) to avoid errors when you reboot or connect via usb. Since the apps are physically located on the sd they become unmounted when the sd card is no longer mounted.
What I'm curious of is where the apps are saved on the sd? I imagine they would save to a hidden file. If this is the case, is it possible to manually move system apps with root explorer or adb commands from internal to the sd card? Obviously, you wouldn't want to move anything crucial to the boot or remount but apps such as e-mail and maps (memory hogs)?
I've noticed when moving apps to the sd from internal that only about half of the file size is actually moved. So does this mean my above question is impossible?
Does anyone REALLY understand how apps2sd works on Froyo?
Is it possible to install another apps2sd (one that allows an sd partition)?
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All you need to do to move apps manually to sd is from home go menu> settings> applications> manage applications, then you can select the app you want to move and select move to sd. This works for any app. If the "move to sd" button is grayed, make sure you check the box in "cyanogenmod settings" to allow moving any app to sd.
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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joshw0000 said:
I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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When using froyo apps2sd you cant have an EXT partition on your SD card also if that isnt the issue check the space on your SD card, also turn on both "save to" settings in Cyanogen Settings to external and also in the applications settings
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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I too am on KaosFroyo and have no problems doing this. Not sure why it's not working for you but I hope ya figure it out!
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Oops, sorry... must have read too fast. I can't move them neither.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Thats what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up.
So I was thinking, maybe we can get around this. What if we delete the file for whatever system app (we'll say FB for this example) and re-download it from the market (or install from a file on your sd card). Would it still be a system app? Could we then save it to the sd?
I think I'm going to try it. I'll report success or failure.
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SUCCESS! Using root explorer, I moved the facebook files located in system/app and data/app to my sd card. I then used linda manager and installed facebook.apk. I opened the app and all seems well. I then went into manage applications in settings and moved it to the sd card.
I'm going to do some more testing and post a new thread for guys like me who can't have TOO MUCH free internal memory.
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Hello,
I had something weird happen to me today. I updated a few applications from the Android Market, and all of a sudden I got the phone internal memory storage full message. I was like how could this be since I have 10gigs of storage free. I went into Linda File Manager and I found out that somehow I am using 1.7gigs or 90% of the Application Storage. This is weird because I didn't install any new apps only updated currently installed ones and there is no way I am using this much space as I don't have that many applications. What would cause the Application storage to be this full? I looked at the apps space usage, cleared all the cache etc...but its still using 90% of the storage. What can I do to fix this problem?
Do you have OCLF? When I did have it I went from 1.7g to 338 MB. I factory reset my phone and it cleared the OCLF and I got my space back
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Hi all,
I've been using my Galaxy S2 for a few weeks, and finally decided my 16gb SD card was not quite big enough. I bought a 32gb card and used my PC to transfer everything from the small card to the large one. Then, I placed the new card in my phone and booted up.
Everything seemed ok, but then I noticed that I now have two of every media folder in my gallery app.
My first thought was that the folders and pictures must have gotten deplicated in the transfer process, but I checked with root explorer, and there is only one of each folder on the card.
Anyone have any idea what might be causing this?
Thanks,
-Matt
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Hey Matt
I think the reason your seeing duplicates of everything is because with android they store everything on the pre-installed sd card you can try to delete the old ones but make sure you make a backup before you do anything.
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don't delete anything.
Go to the media storage application under manage applications (in settings) and clear the cache for that app. You may need to reboot. then check the gallery to see if the duplicates are still there.
This happened to me a while back.
That was one of the first things I tried, but the clear cache button is greyed out. Should I try clearing the data from that app?
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yes, clear data. that should work. that's actually what i meant before.
Hope it works.
My niece is having issues with her Amaze 4G. The application memory is full (the 2Gb partition) is full, but after reviewing the list of apps in Manage Applications, there isn't 2 Gb's worth. All apps have the Move to SD button grayed out. I am unsure how to move items over to the other internal partition (10Gb). Please advise, and thank you.
any ideas??
some games have a big package that downloads with them and i dont think it shows in the apps size.
doesnt sound like you have a external sd so you should probly get one
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There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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jcicora said:
There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkuaW5mb2xpZmUuY2FjaGUiXQ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5jdXJ2ZWZpc2guYXBwcy5tb3ZldG9zZCJd
mrmako777 said:
50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
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Sorry forgot to mention that I installed ES Task Manager and cleared the cache for all the apps. The 50mb is all app & data. Is Move2SD different than Apps2SD?
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My fb is only 25
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Download superbox in Google play and from there can move files over easily to the SD. It will auto generate which files you can move.
Has a nice battery widget as well.
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I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
davidktk said:
I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
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I believe the problem you guy are having might be related to a full cache...use a file explorer to check /cache and see if there any files in there. If you see a bunch of apk's in there, that's your issue. You can delete them all no worries, but dont delete any folders
How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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download es file explorer or astro
Downloaded that application and no apk files there it's getting annoying because I have a load of applications to update.
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
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Double0EK said:
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
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I don't have an sd card!
The phone comes with an INTERNAL sdcard. That's where moving applications to sdcard goes to.
Go to Settings> Applications > Manage Applications then go to each app and move it back to the phone if it gives that option. When you're done connect the phone to the pc and transfer any wanted files to the pc....this is called backing up your sdcard. When you're done with that then go to Settings > Storage and pick Erase Phone Storage. It will erase everything on the phones INTERNAL sdcard. That's why we backed everything up.
Now first thing you should do is move your apps back to the INTERNAL sdcard. So go to Settings > Storage >Make More Space and you can mass move any of the apps that you wish to move back to the phones INTERNAL sdcard. When that's done you can opt to move the files you saved on the pc back to the phones Internal sdcard.
You should also have your niece or her parents invest in an sdcard to put into the sdcard slot. So any pictures or music should be saved on that instead of using the phones internal sdcard. I would suggest a SanDisk 8gb or bigger with at least a Class 4 rating.
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I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
It's very strange that many people are having this problem with the stock rom. Have you guys checked the available storage space by going in to the setting/storage? You should see 'Internal Storage' on the top. Do you have more than 50mb free? Theoretically, 50mb should be enough to update most apps through the Market (Play Store). Did you clear cache using the 'Make more space' option? What happened when you did it?
If you have enough space, yet cannot update apps, you probably have junk files sitting in some other partitions that are not included in 'available storage' calculations. If that's the case, then moving apps to sd card won't fix the problem. If your phone is rooted, it would be a lot easier to diagnose the issue and correct it. Without root, I can only think of one option; factory reset will probably fix the problem.
By the way, if you have to factory reset and loose the existing data anyway, you might want to use the opportunity to unlock the bootloder and root it at the same time.
I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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oryan_dunn said:
I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
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Without root, you won't be able to see much using Astro (or any file manager) because of the read restrictions on many directories. I believe you are correct about the system not cleaning up junk files. And unfortunately, they won't be accessible without root unless HTC included such an utility program to clean it in the stock rom. I doubt it, though, because their 'make space' process only gives you the option to clear cache and delete/move apps.
I know factory reset is not pleasant if you have lots of app data you want to keep. Time to root, maybe?
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Fazettit said:
I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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One S? Are you in the wrong forum?
Anyway, what were you doing when you got the error message? Downloading something? ICS may have a better cleanup routine than GB built in so that rebooting would solve the problem... Or you haven't used your device long enough to accumulate junks.
Lately my phone seems to be miscalculating my internal storage space. You can see in the PIC that although under 500MB of space has been used there is only 36MB left out of 1.97GB.
I have tried wiping data and cache and starting again but eventually had the same issue again. There is literally hardly any apps on here now and its getting annoying not being able to sync Gmail or update apps!
Thanks!
1. Open the phone dialer app and enter *# 9900#
2. Select the 2nd option, "Delete dumpstate/logcat"
This will delete any unwanted log files and could free up a lot of internal storage.
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