I am getting ready to make the jump from Verizon to AT&T and I am taking my DNA with me. I have done the research and I know that the DNA does not have AT&T's LTE bands, but does support HSPA. I know many of you are happy with your DNA on ATT, but I am curious to know about your general experience when you switched over to ATT, especially in areas like signal strength. For me, the HSPA network in my area uses much higher frequencies than Verizon's 700mhz LTE, so I am concerned about the propagation of the signals since towers in my area tend to be farther apart. Any thoughts, comments, and observations are appreciated! Thanks.
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I am getting ready to make the jump from Verizon to AT&T and I am taking my DNA with me. I have done the research and I know that the DNA does not have AT&T's LTE bands, but does support HSPA. I know many of you are happy with your DNA on ATT, but I am curious to know about your general experience when you switched over to ATT, especially in areas like signal strength. For me, the HSPA network in my area uses much higher frequencies than Verizon's 700mhz LTE, so I am concerned about the propagation of the signals since towers in my area tend to be farther apart. Any thoughts, comments, and observations are appreciated! Thanks.
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May I first ask why are you switching from the best phone carrier around>?
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May I first ask why are you switching from the best phone carrier around>?
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Thats a good question, and there are a lot of reasons. We just got a Nexus 5 for my wife, and with my corp discount, that puts us at $115 for two smart phones w/10GBs of data. That is with AT&T's new shared value plans and no contract, and Verizon has chosen not to be competitive and semi-open like AT&T. I have only used Verizon because of their superior network, but have never liked the company or their poor CS. AT&T has been improving their network a lot in my area and is now competitive with Verizon here. I also like the apparent industry trend toward elimination of subsidized phones on contract. I am looking forward to watching the free-market kick in as the manufacturers duke it out to see who can deliver the best device for the most reasonable price. Anyway, kinda off-topic, but I hope that at least partially answers your question.:highfive:
you wont get OTA updates,thats about the only negative i can think of besides no LTE.
i used my DNA on att for a while but with no data($10 add-on line),I did pop in an att sim that had data and tested the speed with the speedtest.net app,it was around 8-9mb down which isnt bad for the area im in (NE Ohio).
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you wont get OTA updates,thats about the only negative i can think of besides no LTE.
i used my DNA on att for a while but with no data($10 add-on line),I did pop in an att sim that had data and tested the speed with the speedtest.net app,it was around 8-9mb down which isnt bad for the area im in (NE Ohio).
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Thanks. How was the call quality/clarity?
Wondering if ever 100% working APN's were ever found to use the DNA on AT&T. I just searched again and found some settings old older threads but none worked quite right. Calls are fine, texts are fine, just MMS only ever gives a download box that never works. I tried several APN's I found.
I moved on from the DNA a while back (missed it), but got another recently from Craigslist to keep as a backup phone. It's a bit beat up, this poor phone is scratched up, small crack on glass in upper right corner. Previous owner didn't treat it well but is completely bone stock (and plan to keep it that way).
Just in case you wonder, I am switching over to Verizon from AT&T. Still have two lines on AT&T under contract till early/mid 2015. I want the DNA to serve as a backup in case any other phones I use with normal service (either AT&T or Verizon) get broken, lost, or otherwise not working. Yeah it's a shame to relegate the DNA to that duty as I love the size of the phone and it was my first 1080p screen on a phone.
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Wondering if ever 100% working APN's were ever found to use the DNA on AT&T. I just searched again and found some settings old older threads but none worked quite right. Calls are fine, texts are fine, just MMS only ever gives a download box that never works. I tried several APN's I found.
I moved on from the DNA a while back (missed it), but got another recently from Craigslist to keep as a backup phone. It's a bit beat up, this poor phone is scratched up, small crack on glass in upper right corner. Previous owner didn't treat it well but is completely bone stock (and plan to keep it that way).
Just in case you wonder, I am switching over to Verizon from AT&T. Still have two lines on AT&T under contract till early/mid 2015. I want the DNA to serve as a backup in case any other phones I use with normal service (either AT&T or Verizon) get broken, lost, or otherwise not working. Yeah it's a shame to relegate the DNA to that duty as I love the size of the phone and it was my first 1080p screen on a phone.
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Thanks for the reply. Are you switching to Verizon for cell coverage reasons?
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Thanks for the reply. Are you switching to Verizon for cell coverage reasons?
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Yes, Verizon has LTE coverage nearly everywhere. If you go into one of their stores just look at that map comparing LTE coverage between them and the other 3 carriers.
Found out the APN setting for MMS may only work on 3rd party MMS clients. On the main phone I use now on Verizon, a G2, I use Google Hangouts for all SMS/MMS, going to try that with the APN settings listed for the DNA on AT&T
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Found out the APN setting for MMS may only work on 3rd party MMS clients. On the main phone I use now on Verizon, a G2, I use Google Hangouts for all SMS/MMS, going to try that with the APN settings listed for the DNA on AT&T
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I use Hangouts as well, let me know!
No real luck getting Hangouts to work for MMS either. Put like 4 different MMS settings into either the DNA settings itself or the Hangouts apps settings for MMS. Just gives me a cannot download type message. I gave up on it.
Only other oddity is the signal type indicators change often. The H and 3G keep flipping back and forth. It'll be on H for 5 seconds, move to 3G for 4-6 seconds then go back. Sometimes it stays on one for a bit longer.
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I use Hangouts as well, let me know!
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Thanks. How was the call quality/clarity?
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perfect,never had an issue with that or dropped calls at all.
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No real luck getting Hangouts to work for MMS either. Put like 4 different MMS settings into either the DNA settings itself or the Hangouts apps settings for MMS. Just gives me a cannot download type message. I gave up on it.
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@Tersanyus, have you seen this post? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37819301&postcount=20
Also you could try this post as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38357094&postcount=3
Hopefully one of those two solutions will work for you. I also read that with some roms, MMS just wont work. Viper was one of the ones mentioned, but that was an older version.
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will the htc thunderbolt be fully flashable to cricket yes or no
I'm sure there is a switch under the battery Criket<>Verizon ... I never got why you would pay 700 for a phone just to save 40 a month and not have 4g and have sub par service... but i'm sure someone will develop a criket rom like the did with the incredible but nothing special
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I'm sure there is a switch under the battery Criket<>Verizon ... I never got why you would pay 700 for a phone just to save 40 a month and not have 4g and have sub par service... but i'm sure someone will develop a criket rom like the did with the incredible but nothing special
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Because after 10 months that 40 turns into 400 and we just paid for the subsidy that ppl are paying for every month for 24 months(40 * 24 = $960) In comparison, after 24 months you get paid $260 for using it on a different network. Sub par service is a matter of opinion...no need to be rude about it, some ppl prefer a frugal alternative.
I guess the thought is that you could buy a cheaper device, and get just as good performance out of it because on Cricket you will never, ever, see any of the 4G speeds that we see.
This thing gets downloads that are consistently as fast as my Home Comcast (15mbps). I have seen some speeds that are double 30+mbps.
I guess what the other poster is thinking is that you could buy a droid 2 or a droid X and basically get the same results. Outside of the 4G LTE speeds, this device is nothing more than a MT4G or Desire HD (same internals). You wouldn't have to spend the extra money for a 4G phone that you will never utilize.
I thought that cricket was signing up for Lightsquared's LTE service? Which I would assume would be the same 700 Mhz our devices run on? I could be wrong, but if cricket did this it seems like it wouldn't be a terrible deal and as op said, he would still save money and actually be able to utilize the service. I doubt they would have the coverage we will, but don't denigrate the dude. He did nothing wrong asked a relevant question. Sorry, this was more directed at two_cents.
I have no idea what frequency Cricket would use, but keep in mind that metroPCS has 4G LTE as well and it is not at all compatible with Verizon 4G LTE. So it may be that the carriers try to distinguish themselves in the near future (especially from value based carriers) based on their phones not being compatible with other networks.
This would have the effect of making you go with one of the Big 3(?) carriers if you wanted a quality smartphone, or pick an inferior or entry level device and go with a prepaid carrier.
Yeah, I know metro's is different, but I was thinking that, which I could be remembering wrong, that LS's LTE service was going to be the same 700mhz. Like I said, I could be wrong. This is just what I vaguely remember.
When cricket starts using sim cards to register devices
Yes that's right the sim card is like those from other networks, doubt it will work
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Chips in Crickets?
Been an At&t user since forever. Service is good enough in Savannah and the job pays for it so I haven't had an argument to switch. So, SIM cards in phones have always been the norm. Could switch out my Nokia, Palm, iPhone whenever.
So forgive my ignorance when I ask what the significance of sims appearing in Cricket phones to being able to use the Thunderbolt? I currently use a Huawei on Cricket to play with and it doesn't have a sim. I've seen a Droid X also on Cricket and I don't know whether it has a sim or not.
Personally I wouldnt use a DX or TB on Cricket but for $55 a month (unlimited everything) it's an attractive offer.
Btw, the Huawei is Z4 rooted and has 2.2.1, which ruins the Wifi. But Wifi tethering works great. About 1mb u/d, but worthwhile. My iP4 gets 3+mb down and 1+mb up on 3G even with MyWi. When 4G LTE comes here with big red then I'll probably switch. I looking forward to a 4.3 screen and 2.3GB
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I thought that cricket was signing up for Lightsquared's LTE service? Which I would assume would be the same 700 Mhz our devices run on? I could be wrong, but if cricket did this it seems like it wouldn't be a terrible deal and as op said, he would still save money and actually be able to utilize the service. I doubt they would have the coverage we will, but don't denigrate the dude. He did nothing wrong asked a relevant question. Sorry, this was more directed at two_cents.
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I think you are mixing up Cricket for Metro PCS.
also the 700Mhz band is verizons if I am not mistaken, so the band will be different for Lightsquared's LTE unless them roam on verizons network.
No, I know metro has their own LTE service, that is not on the same bandwidth ours. Reading further into the lightsquared's frequency range they are on three bands. 1.4 1.6 and 2.0. So, yes I was wrong about it about the TB working on crickets network if they partnered with LS, but I wasn't talking about MPCS. I thought that I had saw where LS was running on the 700 mhz band with VZW. Not sure where I pulled that one out of thin air from, because apparently I was way off. Here's where I got my new info.http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/07/20/lightsquared-announces-lte-network/
MPCS runs on the 1700 mhz band.
ok, I may have to scrap this whole post. We will just chalk it up to the fact I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
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ok, I may have to scrap this whole post. We will just chalk it up to the fact I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
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haha it happens brah, no biggie.
Since no one has yet answer the original question... I'm a professional cell phone tech normally all Verizon phones can be flashed to cricket HOWEVER Verizon has decided to use identification cards similar to Sim cards for their service starting with the thunderbolt and all future Verizon 4g phones. I have yet to attempt to flash a thunderbolt I will try Monday however I'm fairly confident without the id card it will not work on cricket. The card is what stores registration info for the network now VERY similar to a Sim. I'm doubting a flash will work but I will repost tomorrow with my results.
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Since no one has yet answer the original question... I'm a professional cell phone tech normally all Verizon phones can be flashed to cricket HOWEVER Verizon has decided to use identification cards similar to Sim cards for their service starting with the thunderbolt and all future Verizon 4g phones. I have yet to attempt to flash a thunderbolt I will try Monday however I'm fairly confident without the id card it will not work on cricket. The card is what stores registration info for the network now VERY similar to a Sim. I'm doubting a flash will work but I will repost tomorrow with my results.
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Your correct there is no way to load a .prl on the phone without a sim unless theres another way. For the rest of the off topic posts you pay for what you get
Yeah, the SIM card makes this impossible at the moment.
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Its possible because cricket will be getting 4G LTE sometime at the end of this year or early next. But it also depends if it works the same as Verizon's.
The Thunderbolt has officially been flashed to cricket with Talk and Text and hopefully data to come. I flashed it yesterday and i can make and recieve calls and texts atm so wish me luck to get data working
Crickets 4g is gonna be very limited they said they're basically making hotspot style 4g similar to att having wifi at starbucks
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Can u tell me how to connect it to qpst and enable the writing??? i have tried using qpst/cdmaws hell i even tried manual programming... but to no avail. if someone could just let me know whats up with this to get it connected... not looking to pay for the answer just need someone to help with this, everything else i can figure on my own... lol just need to write the prl first... thx...
Only if crickets 4G network is LTE
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Well, first I'd like to say hello and introduce myself, since this is my first post on XDA-devs. I'm Dave, from North Georgia and I've had dozens of phones over the years, from the Nokia 6340i, to the Motorola MPX220, to the Blackberry Bold 9650, to the iPhone 3GS, to the Motorola Droid Bionic, and now to the Samsung Galaxy S II that I am currently rocking. I don't really know all that much about developing stuff, but I'm good at following instructions and I know enough about how things work, or shouldn't work, to be a good guinea pig (A.K.A. Alpha/Beta Tester).
Now that that's out of the way, on to my review of Straight Talk on my Galaxy S II:
I got the Galaxy S II from eBay on April 30th, and ordered a SIM for an AT&T branded phone from Straight Talk which came a couple days later. One thing to note, is that Straight Talk makes you sign for the SIM in person with FedEx, and I missed the FedEx man for two days because of work, so I drove to the FedEx facility to sign for and pick up the SIM, before they returned it to Straight Talk. That's pretty annoying in a rural area like mine, since the facility is over an hour away from my house. Luckily, that's my only complaint with Straight Talk.
I put the SIM in, set the APN settings with the info that ST provides with the SIM, and then went online on my Bionic to setup my account, and ported my number, right in the FedEx parking lot. Took about 10 minutes and the hardest part was finding my Verizon account number to port my number. The GSII started getting a HSPA+ data signal within a few minutes, and I ran a speed test, and got about 6 mbps down and 2 mbps up. I tried calling and SMS and that all worked fine. About 10 - 15 minutes after I ported my number, everything was working properly.
The phone and service has worked flawlessly since then except for the time I put a ROM on and forgot re-setup the APN. Easy fix though. I'm currently running SHOstock2 v3.0.4 and I love it. I've tried several ROMs, all of which work nice, but SHOstock2 feels more natural to me than any of the others. I've been using Shostock2 for nearly 3 weeks, and it has been great. The ROM and the phone itself have been rock solid!
My bill is 46.xx a month(I can't remember what the change is), and I've used a little over 2 gigs of data, sent several thousand texts and talked for several hundred minutes, and so far, I think I've picked a winner. Sure beats paying Verizon $98-$110(after 16% corp discount) a month for a flaky at best Droid Bionic...
I've just got to say, this Galaxy S II has been the best phone I've ever used by a good margin. If anyone has any questions, comments or suggestions, please feel free to ask them. It is pretty late for me, so I'm sure I'm forgetting something.
Have a nice night,
~Dave
I'm so pysched I'm confused on whether to get an unlocked gs2 or palm pre 2 for this
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I'm so pysched I'm confused on whether to get an unlocked gs2 or palm pre 2 for this
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As far as I'm aware you won't need an unlocked phone for this. Just an AT&T branded phone. My GSII was unlocked when I bought it, because I tried a T-Mobile prepaid SIM and it worked fine. I don't have data on that account, so I couldn't try that, plus it would of only been EDGE anyway. I couldn't tell you which phone to get, but I like Android phones myself, and the GSII is hard to beat. I've used 4 Android phones, the HTC EVO, the Motorola Droid X2, the Motorola Droid Bionic, and now the Galaxy S II, and the GSII blows the others away!
When you said "you ported your number", do you mean transferring old Verizon # from your Bionic to new AT&T SGS2?
Anyway, good feedback on ST.
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When you said "you ported your number", do you mean transferring old Verizon # from your Bionic to new AT&T SGS2?
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That's what porting means, to the carriers. I dealt with that too, when my wife switched to my family plan.
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When you said "you ported your number", do you mean transferring old Verizon # from your Bionic to new AT&T SGS2?
Anyway, good feedback on ST.
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That is correct. ST lets you transfer any mobile and most landline numbers to them. Sorry, I should of used the word "transferred" instead of "ported".
Got it,
Thanks matt, Unforgiven
I'm gonna have to keep an eye on this. Thanks. Can iPhone be ported over too? My wife will likely have an iPhone forever. I may seriously consider moving my family plan when my contract is up.
They sell either a regular mini sim, or the micro sim that fits the iPhone 4, so it looks like the answer is yes.
I've been thinking of doing this. I really should.
Anyone else have this service? how is the reception and speed?
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I'm gonna have to keep an eye on this. Thanks. Can iPhone be ported over too? My wife will likely have an iPhone forever. I may seriously consider moving my family plan when my contract is up.
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Go to Straight Talk's Website(I don't have a high enough post count to post links yet), then click Shop, and then SIM Cards.
Then, select the AT&T Compatible Phone radio button this site, and then it lets you select a standard Mini-SIM and the ewer Micro-SIM.
And there you go.
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I've been thinking of doing this. I really should.
Anyone else have this service? how is the reception and speed?
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Depending on the SIM you buy (AT&T or T-Mobile) you use the towers of that carrier. So, I have the same reception as any AT&T customer. The only limiting factor is, and I've only heard this, I haven't had a chance to verify it, but you are limited to 7mbps because of the att.mvno APN that Straight Talk uses. There's no "4G" AT&T HSPA+ in my area, only the "3G" variety, according to the coverage map, so I've highest I've seen is 5.5 mbps down and 2.3 mbps up using speed tests. I'm going to a "4G" area soon, so I will test it there. So, it's not the 30mbps/3mbps that I got with Verizon's LTE network, but it's also half the price, and a lot less BS to deal with.
Thank you for this thread. I've been strongly considering this for a while. The feedback on Straight Talk is appreciated!
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So, it's not the 30mbps/3mbps that I got with Verizon's LTE network,
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Really???
Verizon LTE yields 30mbps??? Wow, that's fast. I never get pass 5mbps on pure AT&T in my area.
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Oh, btw, anyone know if unlimited mobile-to-mobile still be true if a ST with AT&T sim and pure AT&T customer? Both using AT&T network, though.
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Really???
Verizon LTE yields 30mbps??? Wow, that's fast. I never get pass 5mbps on pure AT&T in my area.
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Yeah, I'd get 15-30 mbps every LTE test from the Bionic. I think 32mbps was the fastest I'd seen. Even 15 - 25 when Wi-Fi tethered to a laptop. And really nice(for wireless) 65 - 80 ms latency too. But on EVDO, which is all my hometown has, I never saw above 1.8mbps, so I doubled to tripled my data speeds at home now.
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I've been thinking of doing this. I really should.
Anyone else have this service? how is the reception and speed?
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Put a ST sim in my boys Xperia play out here in California. Works freaking great. Way better then T-Mobile pre-pay.
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Thank you for the post!! I feel stupid now though, for being committed to AT&T
Will definitely look at this when my contract is up.
Quick question for anyone who may know - looking at ST's Coverage Area, can someone explain to me what is the difference between Android and non-Android coverage map?
Straight Talk uses AT&t towers so the service should be the same. A few things to consider. ST doesnt allow tethering, streaming music or video. If you go over 2gb a month for data you will get a text from them and after that they will cut your service off!!! You will lose your number!!!!! Remember that! They have never made it clear when they will cut you off but from reading other posts it has come to the conclusion its 2 gb or a 100 mg a day. But if you can live with all that it cant be beat! My bill is 47 and change for the same service I was paying over 80 for. Im happy with ST. Just like here...Google is your friend. Search for more info. Good info on HoFo. Dont want to post another link to another forum. Hope some of this info was helpful.
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Thank you for the post!! I feel stupid now though, for being committed to AT&T
Will definitely look at this when my contract is up.
Quick question for anyone who may know - looking at ST's Coverage Area, can someone explain to me what is the difference between Android and non-Android coverage map?
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That Android map is for the ST branded Android phones, which up until a few days ago only used Sprint's network. You can tell by looking on the box and it will say what network it uses in the bottom corner. In those Android phone's case, the box says "CDMA-S" but they have just now released Android phones that say "CDMA-V" on the box, because they use Verizon's network. For GSM phones it depends on the SIM you buy.
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A couple of screen shots from last night, showing speed tests from a "4G" HSPA+ area, as shown on AT&T's coverage map(the second pic was after I rebooted the phone, just to make sure I had enough RAM to properly run the flash based test.)
By the way, does anyone else notice the glitch?
I've been doing this for a year and some odd months. I had an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S i9000 on Straight Talk for a while (using a Straight Talk Nokia e71 SIM) since last year, then then they introduced the SIM only package, I bought an AT&T iPhone 4 from Craigslist and bought the microSIM from Striaght Talk. The smartphone doesn't need to be unlocked! If you have an AT&T smartphone, choose that option when buying the SIM. If you have a TMobile smartphone, choose that option. I have since changed phones, but kept the microSIM, and using a miniSIM adapter, have it in a Galaxy S2 i777. Couldn't be happier! Sure, I'm in edge most times when using data, but I've got wifi in 95% of the places I go..
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Straight Talk uses AT&t towers so the service should be the same.
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Actually, they use every networks towers in some way. There are CDMA [verizon network] straight talk phones (feature, not smartphones - I have one). There are AT&T and TMobile SIMs for use on each network. And their android phones they sell run off of Sprint..
Just wondering if you do, what prl you may be using or radio. I just got mine yesterday and put it on Verizon and I love the phone. I lose 3G at my house sometimes but for some reason Verizon has always been that spotty for me so there may be no cure....Sprint isn't the best either at my house. The best believe it or not is AT&T. Everywhere else though usually Verizon has the best service around my town. I live in Virginia. Input would be greatly appreciated.
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Just wondering if you do, what prl you may be using or radio. I just got mine yesterday and put it on Verizon and I love the phone. I lose 3G at my house sometimes but for some reason Verizon has always been that spotty for me so there may be no cure....Sprint isn't the best either at my house. The best believe it or not is AT&T. Everywhere else though usually Verizon has the best service around my town. I live in Virginia. Input would be greatly appreciated.
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did u flash it your self?? or have it done???
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did u flash it your self?? or have it done???
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I did it myself. I have done many. When I had Verizon postpaid I had a bad signal where I lived but having a signal in the sticks outweighed the cons. I live in the city thats the weird thing but I did a lot of work that was in rural areas so having a signal was needed.
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I did it myself. I have done many. When I had Verizon postpaid I had a bad signal where I lived but having a signal in the sticks outweighed the cons. I live in the city thats the weird thing but I did a lot of work that was in rural areas so having a signal was needed.
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so say i have my lte flashed to verizon prepaid will data work for me like 3g it works fine and everything else?? cause im really thinking about having it done.. i hate paying 100 a month..
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so say i have my lte flashed to verizon prepaid will data work for me like 3g it works fine and everything else?? cause im really thinking about having it done.. i hate paying 100 a month..
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Yes if it's done right you will have 3G and everything working. In my area Verizon is also much faster than Boost Mobile.
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Yes if it's done right you will have 3G and everything working. In my area Verizon is also much faster than Boost Mobile.
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I flashed mine today this sh!t is lightning fast 2mbs download and a processor that can handle it (orlando florida prl 000001) I have everything working but I'm wondering if anyone was able to get mms to work naitively. I'm using the verizon messages app from verizon. I don't have a problem with it except how ugly the icon and ui is. Plus I wanna be able to use the native app.
Can you help me
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Just wondering if you do, what prl you may be using or radio. I just got mine yesterday and put it on Verizon and I love the phone. I lose 3G at my house sometimes but for some reason Verizon has always been that spotty for me so there may be no cure....Sprint isn't the best either at my house. The best believe it or not is AT&T. Everywhere else though usually Verizon has the best service around my town. I live in Virginia. Input would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello I have a sprint htc evo 4g that i want to put on the verizon prepaid. I have the CDMA worshop. I just would really appreciate maybe a guide of how to do this?? If you know anyone you could point me in the right direction that would be great. I have done this before with this phone but we are outta the metro pcs home area and i have a vanity number for my business so i have to keep this number. I have flashed this phone once but i couldnt get the mms and internet to work. If would help me that would be greatly appreciated
thanks
Hey guys,
Quick thought and a question:
1. I have the LTE rocking on Page Plus, also a Verizon service. For those considering the Verizon network over Sprint's, consider Page Plus over Verizon PP for two reasons:
A. Avoid illegality of ESN cloning
B. Being kicked off the network for data abuse, cause they know those tiny, dumbphones aren't capable of such data usage
2. For those rocking these LTEs on VZW networks, even with the right MMS settings, can you guys confirm that when you get an MMS, you have to MANUALLY hit the download button to download the images? Instead of the phone automatically engaging the data to download the image, and then shutting the data off, much like all the native Verizon phones like the Rezound, for example?
Thanks for your help!
ProFragger said:
Hey guys,
Quick thought and a question:
1. I have the LTE rocking on Page Plus, also a Verizon service. For those considering the Verizon network over Sprint's, consider Page Plus over Verizon PP for two reasons:
A. Avoid illegality of ESN cloning
B. Being kicked off the network for data abuse, cause they know those tiny, dumbphones aren't capable of such data usage
2. For those rocking these LTEs on VZW networks, even with the right MMS settings, can you guys confirm that when you get an MMS, you have to MANUALLY hit the download button to download the images? Instead of the phone automatically engaging the data to download the image, and then shutting the data off, much like all the native Verizon phones like the Rezound, for example?
Thanks for your help!
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whats page plus?? never heard of it before?
evo401 said:
whats page plus?? never heard of it before?
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Not trying to be a smarta$$ at all here, bud, but Google is your friend on that one . So much you can find out about it, if you Google it.
But simply stated, it's an MVNO that runs on the Verizon network... Decent support, and service for reasonable price...
can i flash it to metro? if so how
VZW prepay on a 4g?
I keep hearing how some ppl have their Verizon 4g phone on the Verizon prepaid service and I need to know how I get that to happen for me. I have a droid bionic with a 4g sim but I use the VZW prepay bc I don't use my cell but about 1/2 the month (dead area for cell phone coverage in the sticks where I live) so I don't want contract pricing. I've been using one of the Verizon prepay phones but they just aren't up to par for me and I love the droids. Somebody please tell me how I get this to work?!?! I've tried transferring my service myself online to the 4g sim but of course that doesn't work and you can't even get a Verizon rep to even discuss it. Is it a matter of getting a different kind of sim for the phone, i.e. a 3g sim if they even exist in the VZW world. Is there such a thing as a prepaid sim versus a contract sim? I'm lost!
I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I like Verizon, the coverage is great but sometimes I wonder if the grass is greener. I like to try all the different phones out there and T-Mobile and AT&T have the most open networks for switching out phones. I think T-Mobile is not going to work because the coverage is just not there. I used to be an At&T customer and only left really for Android (Original Droid). Now that Android is spread to al the carriers I wonder if I might like AT&T better just because I can switch out phones so much easier. Anyone have any input, maybe someone that has switched from Verizon to AT&T?
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I'd love to provide some input as a user who has been a Verizon customer for a few years and is switching to AT&T. I previously used the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and then switched to the iPhone 5 last year. I am still on an unlimited data plan. However, I have grown increasingly frustrated at Verizon because of their lack of phone variety, slow updates, locked bootloaders, Verizon customizations (persistent WIFI notifications, for example), etc.
So I bought an HTC One on AT&T the other day and am currently evaluating it. Right now I still have my Verizon iPhone 5 with unlimited data. But I also have the HTC One with the 5GB data plan (I have a 25% business discount).
SO is the grass greener? Yes and No. Here are some of my thoughts:
- Verizon has better overall coverage, but AT&T is faster. In my area, LTE on AT&T just went live, and while speeds are comparable, AT&T has better penetration already into the buildings I've been in. In my workplace, for example, I can get 4G LTE on AT&T but only 3G on Verizon unless I am close to the windows. It's nice having HSPA+ as a drop down from LTE as opposed to Verizon's very slow 3G network IMO. Can't deny Verizon's coverage is second to none, but AT&T is good in my area so this is probably the primary consideration (how is AT&T in your main area you'll be in???)
- It would be very hard to give up my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. It's nice not having to worry about data caps. However, in actual use, I rarely go over 3-4GB per month and only occasionally reach 5GB. I don't think 3GB would be enough as I'd be constantly worrying about going over, plus I'd have to workaround tethering. For now, I'm keeping my Verizon line until I am absolutely sure.
- Phones! GMS > CDMA if only for the flexibility the former has for phones. The floodgates are open on AT&T and T-Mobile, but Verizon takes longer to get phones, has less variety, and has complete control over them. I hate everything about what Verizon is doing, and it's clear they don't have geeks in mind that like to tinker and switch phones often. I change phones every 9-12 months usually, and AT&T is going to provide a better environment than Verizon for that. Not perfect, mind you. They still lock bootloaders, and have some draconian policies and practices, but by the nature of their GMS network, there is more flexibility.
- HTC One. I bought the One on AT&T before it was officially confirmed that Verizon would be getting it. So there is a part of me that thinks I should just return the AT&T version and wait for the Verizon version. However, I am not at all confident that Verizon won't screw it up or prevent HTC from allowing us to unlock the bootloader. And like I said, I'm just really tired of Verizon and their meddling. I may just end up keep both plans for a while, but right now I'm leaning towards keeping the AT&T version despite my unlimited data plan on Verizon.
Hope that helps.
Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes that was a great help. I am really torn because Verizon's coverage is so great. I know that ATT LTE went live here a little bit ago and I think the coverage is pretty good. Ironically I left ATT for the Droid on Verizon because of the lack of variety on ATT at the time. Thanks for your input.
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No problem. I know what you mean, I had AT&T a long time ago too and moved to Verizon when they changed their unlimited data policy. So it's ironic that I am now switching back. AT&T has done a good job of courting Android phone makers, and Verizon seems to be in the honeymoon phase of having the iPhone now. It's weird how things have flip-flopped! AT&T also has a few more consumer-friendly policies such as not forcing customers into a Share Everything data plan if you aren't already grandfathered in. They have rollover minutes (which I know isn't a big deal these day with people using voice less). And they have Mobile to ANY Mobile rather than just Mobile to Mobile, which is a small advantage I know.
But yeah, the primary consideration is how each carrier performs in your area. If both are good (like in my area), you have more options.
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honestly i would move to verizon right now if i could, in my area better coverage + better speeds
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Yes, if one carrier has better coverage and speeds in your area, then it makes sense to use that carrier. In my area, Verizon's LTE has been around for almost two years now and I rarely get more than 10 Mbps downloads. Usually it hovers around 5-9 Mbps, which is not even much better than AT&T's HSPA+, let alone LTE. And when my phones on Verizon drop down to 3G, it feels like dialup speeds. So far, AT&T is noticeable better for speeds between my HTC One and iPhone 5.
But again, YMMV and this is just a subjective observation on my part. To the OP, you could always give AT&T a shot for 14 days and compare the networks. If it doesn't work out, you can cancel and just pay the restocking fee. Just use the new phone with a new number, so you don't have to port and cancel your old line yet.
It all depends on your location really. I live near philly and the service has actually been a bit better on att then verizon from when i had them a few years ago. The speeds are also better on att thanks to it not being cdma but rather hspa. Overall I would never go back to verizon due to their prices and slower speeds unless I moved somewhere where they had clearly better service than all other companies.
So what about dropped calls. I barely have any on Verizon, but I remember having them on AT&T. Does being on LTE fix that or is it still a problem?
I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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I went from Verizon (been a customer for 10 years) to At&t recently because my wife's office only gets At&t reception and we wanted to be on a Mobile Share plan instead of having two separate accounts (saves us around 40 a month). I've had an At&t line over the years for work, so I know the coverage isn't NEARLY as good as Verizon, especially LTE coverage in my area (At&t just went live on a few towers in my neck of the woods), but the savings is worth the sacrifice at this time.
Plus, as you said, being able to use most GSM phones on the network is a HUGE plus. Being able to run the Google Edition on my HTC One will be fantastic and I don't think Verizon is going to make it easy to run that software. Plus, as another guy mentioned above, that persistent Wifi thing Verizon does is sooooooo annoying. Almost as bad as At&t putting their name in the notification bar of the GS3/GS4. At least it goes away after a few seconds on the HTC One.
I haven't had many dropped calls on At&t, but calls are not what I do the most of, so I'm a bad barometer for that. I know the wife drops a bunch but I just attributed it to being the Nexus 4 and not a tried and true, tested, At&t phone. She has a GS4 now, so we'll see if that improves.
Anyway, in short, I did it for strictly monetary reasons, but the plus sides of At&t are numerous so it's not as bad as thought it would be.
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Thats what I am afraid of. My wife values the voice and I value the data. So dropped calls don't bother me as much, but it would really bother my wife. Especially coming from Verizon with very few dropped calls.
I dropped Verizon last year for AT&T and, despite the few rough patches everyone else has mentioned, it was worth it. No one can beat Verizon's LTE network coverage at this point, but I was so fed up with their other BS on updates and pretty scanty selection of phones that I did what you did and suspended my service for a month to see what happened. At first they weren't perfect, but I was fine with them and loved that I could go from a US SGS3 to an international One X without a hitch. Also, AT&T's coverage (both 3G and LTE) has expanded greatly in quality and quantity over the last 6 months where I'm at for work and everyday life. So now I've finally convinced my wife to drop them also and thus ending our 12 year run with Verizon and their devolution into Apple-like "It's our way or you don't need it" business model.
Will I ever go back? Not until I can buy a new phone from anywhere I want and activate it on their network. And I believe it'll be a cold day in heck before that is ever allowed to happen!
Just picked up a new G3 and new service provider in Verizon. Is it common to be stuck on 3G majority of the time in a decent size city? It sometimes in a blue moon switches to 4GLTE, but won't stay long.
I am with tmobile currently as well as that is my main carrier, but needed good coverage in the bad areas of Pennsylvania. Have awesome coverage where I live with tmobile, however with Verizon not so much.
Is it common?
I guess I have 14 days to decide. Any feedback greatly appreciated,
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Just picked up a new G3 and new service provider in Verizon. Is it common to be stuck on 3G majority of the time in a decent size city? It sometimes in a blue moon switches to 4GLTE, but won't stay long.
I am with tmobile currently as well as that is my main carrier, but needed good coverage in the bad areas of Pennsylvania. Have awesome coverage where I live with tmobile, however with Verizon not so much.
Is it common?
I guess I have 14 days to decide. Any feedback greatly appreciated,
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take it back... verizon locks everything down tmo allows you to be free .
sorry i didn't actually help you in regards to your question.
The only time I see myself switch to 3g is where I have crappy service at my parent's place. Otherwise I don't have that issue..
However I'm also not in Pennsylvania so someone else may need to comment on that bit.
Perhaps they're doing tower upgrades over there?
The G3 gets really good reception, on par or better than the Motorola phones which are known to have excellent reception. I'd give it a day or so to settle along with a few restarts to see if you can grab an updated PRL. Outside of that Verizon may not be great in your area. I have to go outside to get a decent 4G signal, inside it's 3G most of the time.
That's the thing, I still have my T-Mobile phone. I actually live in Ohio, however work in PA and a little of West Virginia where I get no signal and can only make emergency calls. When in Ohio, where I live I get amazing 4G signal on lte. 40 down and 10 up to where on Verizon where I live I get 7 down and barely 1 up. It's crazy... Then again I am on 3G most of the time.
So wifi it goes....
Also is it normal to be on wifi and next to it the 4G/3G signal shows. I only have a gig of data is why I ask. Don't want unwanted charges on my bill.
T-Mobile g Flex unfortunately will still be my main phone. Unlimited everything.
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Also is it normal to be on wifi and next to it the 4G/3G signal shows. I only have a gig of data is why I ask. Don't want unwanted charges on my bill.
T-Mobile g Flex unfortunately will still be my main phone. Unlimited everything.
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Yep that's normal, nothing to worry about there
Ok, thanks. Just worried as T-Mobile phone goes straight to wifi symbol only.
You could try switching airplane mode on and then back off
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take it back... verizon locks everything down tmo allows you to be free .
sorry i didn't actually help you in regards to your question.
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Explain this a little more.
Go to network and Switch to LTE from global. I had the same problem and that fixed it
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Go to network and Switch to LTE from global. I had the same problem and that fixed it
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I did this and at 1st it gave me full bars. I did a reset for some reason and when it came back it's back to 1 bar. Weird....So does this mean I'll stay on 4G and won't pan back to 3G, if so might need to be on global in order to get signal in bad areas.
Thanks though, see what happens.
Things to try:
Power off take out the sim, power back on without sim, power off and put sim back in.
Call Verizon and have then send an update to your sim card.
Factory reset your device
Get a new sim card
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Things to try:
Power off take out the sim, power back on without sim, power off and put sim back in.
Call Verizon and have then send an update to your sim card.
Factory reset your device
Get a new sim card
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It's a new phone and I would have to already take put the SIM. I mean I will as I dont get why I am constantly on 3G. Thought Verizon was good at penetrating buildings for 4G.
Not to mention even when I am on 4G it's no where near the speeds my tmobile phone gets.
Might have to chalk it up to so many people on big red....I guess as long as I get signal in the boonies I'll be okay. Just a little disappointed.
Thanks for the help.
I had this same issue and switching it from Global to CDMA/LTE fixed it for me. I've read that it shouldn't matter if it's on Global.... But I clearly saw the difference.
This G3 gets the same or better reception that my S4 does. I'm happy with it
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You should be on 4G, if it is available in your area. Signal strength is the main reason it'll drop to 3G, but that's only when your 4G signal drops above -100 dBm. Somewhere around the -115 is where mine decides it's better to switch to 3G. I even get some 1X's here at my desk, but I've got a crappy signal at my desk. If you're on 3G most of the time, then there's a problem. As stated earlier, take the following steps:
FDR (Factory Data Reset.) You'll lose everything, so back it up.
Go into the VZW store and tell them you want another SIM card. (Try not to handle it with your fingers and tell them not to handle it with theirs either.)
Replacement phone is the only other alternative.
If none of the above works, then you probably do need to switch back to T-Mobile. Just remember, you only have 14 days to figure this out!
Have you looked at a coverage map? Verizon does have excellent coverage but all carriers have holes
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Looks like Verizon has spotty service in the area you described. Vzw May not be the best choice for you in that area. Especially if you travel.
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T-Mobile's version comes factory unlocked. It already has the TWRP recovery.
OTOH, T-Mobile's version is SIM locked and Verizon's isn't, so Verizon's version is more free if you ever need to travel internationally.
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T-Mobile's version comes factory unlocked. It already has the TWRP recovery.
OTOH, T-Mobile's version is SIM locked and Verizon's isn't, so Verizon's version is more free if you ever need to travel internationally.
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I got faith in the devs as far at unlocking this phone for a custom recovery!
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