After a few torturous months on a Note 3 (screw AT&T for locked boot loader!), I've decided to switch back to the glorious M7. In the meantime, I've started new job which requires usage of Good for Enterprise. I've been a CM nightly junkies when I was using the M7 but with this email client that won't work with root, I'd like to see if anyone else has experience and effective strategies to work around the root detection.
From researching on other forums, it seems like removing SU, busybox, com.noshufou.android.su, and XBIN folder then GFE should work. That is a bit of work to do it every day though. Has anyone tried simpler something like Hide My Root and would that get past GFE root detection?
lc084302 said:
After a few torturous months on a Note 3 (screw AT&T for locked boot loader!), I've decided to switch back to the glorious M7. In the meantime, I've started new job which requires usage of Good for Enterprise. I've been a CM nightly junkies when I was using the M7 but with this email client that won't work with root, I'd like to see if anyone else has experience and effective strategies to work around the root detection.
From researching on other forums, it seems like removing SU, busybox, com.noshufou.android.su, and XBIN folder then GFE should work. That is a bit of work to do it every day though. Has anyone tried simpler something like Hide My Root and would that get past GFE root detection?
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You could create two scripts that you could keep stored in the phones memory. One script will remove the files and place them in a temp location. The other script will put the files back in their proper location when you are not at work.
There is an xposed module that, rootcloak I think it is that will make the app think you're not rooted
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RootCloak used to work until recently. As far as I can tell, it might have stopped working after the most recent SuperUser update, because I don't recall installing a Good for Enterprise update.
Thanks for the responses. I'll try to remove those files before installing Good for Enterprise. Trying not to tip off IT that my phone isn't stock.
I haven't not gotten around to switch back to the M7 since I made up my mind to do it. Work has finally slowed down a little so I read up on the instructions again and there are a few points that I'd like to see if someone is kind enough to clarify for me.
Here are the instructions I found on mydroidworld forum for the Droid X by _Matt (http://www.mydroidworld.com/topic/7904-good-for-enterprise-work-around/:
"1. INSTALL Good For Enterprise Last, its the last thing you install.
2. Be sure DX2 Boot Strap is installed.
3. ROM and setup your phone however you want.
4. Create a backup just in case
5. remove these files, SU, BUSYBOX, com.noshufou.android.su, XBIN Folder
6. Reboot
7. Install GFE and activate
8. If you need to make O/S changes learn how to make flashable .ZIP files through bootstrap. Works perfectly and I have no issues with GFE.
If you change ROM's you will need to do these steps to keep GFE working.
1. In GFE app turn off persistent mode.
2. Go Offline
3. Quit app
4. Install Root.zip that you made before unrooting
5. Freeze or back up GFE with Titanium back up
6. ROM your device
7. set it up
8. restore apps
9. remove these files, SU, BUSYBOX, com.noshufou.android.su, XBIN Folder
10. Reboot
11. Start GFE"
On the first set of instruciton, what is the equivalent for the second point "Be sure DX2 Boot Strap is installed." on the M7? And on point 8, what is does it mean by making .ZIP files through bootstrap?
I'm guessing point 4 in the second set of isntruction is to flash the zip file through a custom recovery. Am I correct in thinking that? Thanks for the help!
I'm guessing boot strap is an old recovery. All the readings I could find are from a few years ago.
So I think it's using a custom recovery to make a backup before installing GFE for the first time, do all necessary changes, remove the files related to root then install and activate GFE.
When it's time to change ROM, completely shut down GFE, flash the rooted backup, freeze/backup GFE with titanium backup, flash new ROM, remove the root files again, restore GFE.
Am I on the right track about this? If that's how it's supposed to work then if I just want to update to a new CM nightly, I can probably just shut down GFE, flash, remove files and start GFE again.
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So, I got an Atrix a few days ago and decided that it would be a good idea to root it. I ran the GingerBreak.exe file that i found on this site. I followed the instructions to the letter and got a reboot when it was done. It now has an app on there called Superuser, as it is supposed to. To the best of my knowledge the root was sucsessfull, however, I try and install CWM recovery, so that i can install something other than MotoBlur, and when i click the app to install from my sd card it tells me that for my own protection i can only run apps from trusted places. I have seached through as many forums as my eyes can handle and if anyone can tell me how to get this damb thing to work the way i want it to.
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So, I got an Atrix a few days ago and decided that it would be a good idea to root it. I ran the GingerBreak.exe file that i found on this site. I followed the instructions to the letter and got a reboot when it was done. It now has an app on there called Superuser, as it is supposed to. To the best of my knowledge the root was sucsessfull, however, I try and install CWM recovery, so that i can install something other than MotoBlur, and when i click the app to install from my sd card it tells me that for my own protection i can only run apps from trusted places. I have seached through as many forums as my eyes can handle and if anyone can tell me how to get this damb thing to work the way i want it to.
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Ok, sorry, first check to see if you have the option to check unknown sources, under the settings -> Application Settings.
Furthermore, I think the best way for you to do it and also get you comfortable with the file structure of your new phone would be to download Root Explorer & SQLite Editor from the market. Yes, I know they cost a few $$ but you will use them both in the future, and they are well worth it.
Once those are installed, use Root Explorer to navigate to /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
Click on settings.db and it will open with SQLite Editor.
Select "secure"
Change the value of "instal_non_market_apps" from 0 to 1, by holding down on 0 and selecting edit field. Save Changes, and back out to Root Explorer and exit.
Phone may require a re-boot.
You should now be good to go for installing non market .apk files.
Plus, now that you know how to do all that, you can also try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980636
After getting CWM installed, I would suggest installing a P-ROM, such as Gingerblur or GladAtrix. These will de-odex your system and get rid of the bloatware:
Gingerblur:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991595
GladAtrix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019097
Also, you may want to attempt to unlock the boot loader (if your on a US AT&T Atrix), that way once true ROMs start coming out, you can flash them too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
Roche173 said:
So, I got an Atrix a few days ago and decided that it would be a good idea to root it. I ran the GingerBreak.exe file that i found on this site. I followed the instructions to the letter and got a reboot when it was done. It now has an app on there called Superuser, as it is supposed to. To the best of my knowledge the root was sucsessfull, however, I try and install CWM recovery, so that i can install something other than MotoBlur, and when i click the app to install from my sd card it tells me that for my own protection i can only run apps from trusted places. I have seached through as many forums as my eyes can handle and if anyone can tell me how to get this damb thing to work the way i want it to.
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You gotta get something enabled called sideloading working. look for something called gladenable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1017373 that'll do it or grab droid explorer http://de.codeplex.com/ that will force the install from your comp without sideloading enabled.
You can also check you have root by using the following free app from the Market:
Root Checker
Rooted with Gingerbreak
Roche173 said:
So, I got an Atrix a few days ago and decided that it would be a good idea to root it. I ran the GingerBreak.exe file that i found on this site. I followed the instructions to the letter and got a reboot when it was done. It now has an app on there called Superuser, as it is supposed to. To the best of my knowledge the root was sucsessfull, however, I try and install CWM recovery, so that i can install something other than MotoBlur, and when i click the app to install from my sd card it tells me that for my own protection i can only run apps from trusted places. I have seached through as many forums as my eyes can handle and if anyone can tell me how to get this damb thing to work the way i want it to.
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Hi can you unroot ?
I was like you at first. I rooted a couple days ago but I couldn't download any untrusted sources apps. I was gonna go the sideloading route or use gladenabler or something. But I ran out of time near a pc to load all that stuff. So I was searching root android apps on the market and came across one called Non-Market apps enabler. It costs $1.39 or something. I was skeptical of it but I said since so cheap, let me try it out. I downloaded n installed. The app works flawlessly n like a charm. It brought the option into settings to check off allow untrusted sources download n install. It works. Ever since then, I'm now downloading any n every app I want. From the market or not. This is the fastest way to get the option checkbox untrusted sources into your rooted phone. I thought it was b.s. Bit it really works and I don't have to do all that sideloading or putting glandenabler or all that into my phone. I have the checkbox marked off now n I download what I want. Good luck. N remember, it's called Non-market apps enabler. I'm on froyo 2.2.2 build 4.1.8.3 , rooted using gingerbreak and it worked for me instantly!
NOTE: These rooting methods may not work after you install the OTA.
Use Amon Ra recovery to install superuser
This should give you root for ICS Here
Perm Root Method - Gingerbread only
If you unlocked the bootloader with HTCDev.com then use the OneClickRoot with pure zergRush for perm root exploit
Download - OneClickRoot
Once you are perm rooted you can use the disable, enable, Wireless Tether and adblock options in the tool.
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Temp Root Method
Use the root option in the Tool which is only good for temp root with the locked bootloader.
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Tool
New version of temp root to make it easier to use with more options.
Menu driven including:
Temp root
Disable and enable application and other packages
Wireless Tether
Ad block
See screenshot below for all options.
Temp root now holds until reboot.
Disabled applications hold until enabled.
Updated and Working:
Latest zergRush package
Latest adb inline
Latest Superuser and su binary are installed if not already installed
Latest busybox
Thanks to scrosler for the idea of including the application disabling as part of the tool.
Thanks to con247 and meizu devs for the zergRush script that persists until reboot
NOTE: If this does not work for you try scrosler's or con247's versions. Subtle difference may make one or the other work better for you.
Instructions:
Extract all of zip file to your PC
Open folder (do not rename files folder)
Reboot your phone
Make sure HTC Sync is not running on PC
Connect phone in Charge only mode
Double click TempRootTool.bat
Run your choices and exit
Mount SD Card in Settings > SD and phone storage
Have fun.
NOTE: If you do lose root reboot first then reapply.
Menu Options:
1) Temp Root Device - Will temp root your phone and install Superuser if it is not already installed
2) Disable applications - Will disable applications in your application list
3) Enable applications - Will enable applications in your application list
4) Edit Applications List - Will put the application list in notepad for editing (currently set for the bloat I disable)
5) Install Wireless Tether
6) Install ad block host file
R) === Reboot your Device === - Will reboot your device. Reboot if you don't need temp root after managing applications
H) Help - Help information
ENTER - Exit
Download Temp Root Tool v2
Ill try it on Wednesday when I get the device. Atleast we can use titanium.
One thing I was thinking is there any way we can boot into custom recovery with temp root? Because I know on one phone that I rooted for someone it would just reboot into a temporary custom recovery from which stuff could be flashed. Obviously if it boot looped you needed to RUU restore but it was worth the trouble to get root.
is this wireless tether app susceptible to verizon identifying unauthorized wifi tether use? I know on other devices only certain ROMS are safe.
Just tried this. Unfortunately it doesn't work at all for me. I tried running Cache Cleaner NG and it said that it was unable to get root permissions. I tried clicking on SuperUser (the app itself) and it FCs every time.
EDIT: Rebooted and tried again and it appears to be working.
EDIT2: Not working again. Seems to only last a few minutes.
Alright enough is enough. Imma try it.now. all this talk about root is driving me nuts. Thanks Nils..
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I tried to get temp root using the zerg technique, and it didn't work too good. I want to try this method, but I'm not sure how to remove the Superuser from my first attempt. It doesn't show up as an uninstallable app. Can anyone shed some light for me? Thanks!
its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
The first try it worked but something didnt go through so i reboot the phone tried it again and worked like a charm. thank you greatly appriciated
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its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
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Do the things stay frozen after a reboot?
combatmedic870 said:
its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
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You know, you can go into SETTINGS>SD & Phone Storage and remount it that way... for next time.
I tried this and mine also unmounted my SD Card and Titanium didn't have root access. Uninstalled Titanium and the phone rebooted on its own and is now in a an infinite boot loop. Guess I am going to have to use HBOOT, wipe the phone and start ALL FREAKING OVER AGAIN! fml
combatmedic870 said:
its worked for me! though it still didnt mount the SD, so i took off the back lifted the battery a LITTLE and used a paper clip to slide out the sd and then to slide it back in. then i went to TI and it didnt want to work, so i uninstalled and reinstalled both, and then it worked. now i have everything frozen that i wanted.
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Lol, talk about doing it the hard way! Just go to Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Mount SD Card and wa-la! No need to physically slide it out then back in lol.
rboddy said:
Lol, talk about doing it the hard way! Just go to Settings>SD & Phone Storage>Mount SD Card and wa-la! No need to physically slide it out then back in lol.
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well...yea.....
WorldOfJohnboy said:
You know, you can go into SETTINGS>SD & Phone Storage and remount it that way... for next time.
I tried this and mine also unmounted my SD Card and Titanium didn't have root access. Uninstalled Titanium and the phone rebooted on its own and is now in a an infinite boot loop. Guess I am going to have to use HBOOT, wipe the phone and start ALL FREAKING OVER AGAIN! fml
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Just pull the battery
Nils, question. Do I just download the zip file directly to my phones sdcard in the described folder I would create, then install it from there directly from the phone?
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con247 said:
Do the things stay frozen after a reboot?
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To answer this question, yes they do!!!
So let's start a "What can we safely freeze" list. I was pretty conservative the first time:
Blockbuster
Backup Assistant
VCast
VCast Music
Let's Play Golf
Need for Speed
Rebooted and they're all still gone. Root has been lost though, I'd have to re-run the app to get root back.
1967ls2 said:
Nils, question. Do I just download the zip file directly to my phones sdcard in the described folder I would create, then install it from there directly from the phone?
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No, you install it from your PC
what i have frozen safely without any ill affects.
all verizon apps besides backup assistant, my verizon mobile, voicemail.
also took off, facebook, flickr, amazon, polaris, internet, mobile im, blockbuster, also games.
but....try them out yourself....this is what i have taken off without anything wrong....doesnt mean it wont screw your phone up!
ChaOConnor said:
To answer this question, yes they do!!!
So let's start a "What can we safely freeze" list. I was pretty conservative the first time:
Blockbuster
Backup Assistant
VCast
VCast Music
Let's Play Golf
Need for Speed
Rebooted and they're all still gone. Root has been lost though, I'd have to re-run the app to get root back.
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Awesome. If they stay frozen i can live without soff/root for much longer.
I am having the same issue with applying the update, root installs fine and when I reboot root is gone, along with Superuser, Busybox, etc. installed it a few times and every time I reboot root gets lost.
enigmad said:
I am having the same issue with applying the update, root installs fine and when I reboot root is gone, along with Superuser, Busybox, etc. installed it a few times and every time I reboot root gets lost.
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Thats the whole point of TEMP root. When you reboot, Root is GONE. You have to Re-root every time you reboot your phone.
Hi All,
i have an issue - i installed custom ROM, custom kernel, all is working except root.
I have two root apps - superuser (standard) and one from ROM supersu. One came with ROM, and i flashed another (standard) just after flash (not sure why really)
So - I have two supersusers - bot don't have root... irony
Any suggestion how to fix that? Also, how should i delete superuser (standard) from system/app folder (without root apparently)?
Thanks all!
"This app cannot be uninstalled if it was installed with your ROM or root. If there is no uninstall option, it's because you placed it in /system/app, not me. It is impossible for an app to be installed in /system/app by the Play store. In fact, the entire /system partition is read only at runtime. The only way for an app to be placed in /system/app is via a rooting process (which usually installs Superuser), or by remounting the system partition as read/write and manually putting it there."
this is from the play store page. I guess you could try using root explorer to delete it but don't know if it will work
The more important question is why don't you have root? You have two root apps installed on a custom ROM. You should be able to run SuperSU and let it update the su binary. Then you can use ROM Toolbox or TB to remove Superuser.
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That is a strange problem. Never had that issue. Some custom come with supersu already installed and don't require you to install super user from the market. In fact it dont make sense to download standard unless you have standard from Rom and want to add supersu for better root access. Try to reflash Rom first and see if that works. Don't install standard. If that don't work try another Rom.
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That is a strange problem. Never had that issue. Some custom come with supersu already installed and don't require you to install super user from the market. In fact it dont make sense to download standard unless you have standard from Rom and want to add supersu for better root access. Try to reflash Rom first and see if that works. Don't install standard. If that don't work try another Rom.
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That's already been suggested in the ROM thread on another site, but he seems to be trying to get around it without reinstalling the ROM. He said over there that he doesn't know why he installed SuperUser since the ROM came with another su app and neither do I. He should just go ahead and reflash the ROM.
For some reason this guy seems to want to do things differently from standard practices and then ask for help when it doesn't work. His latest post in the other thread was asking if he could flash the ROM after removing the kernel (boot.img)!
I'm not sure where he comes up with these ideas but he seems to be off doing his own thing even though he is new at this stuff. I'm not suggesting that you don't help him, but wanted you to be aware that he may be creating problems for himself.
ramjet73
Thanks for the heads up. Your right, it don't make sense to try something different if what we suggest to somebody has been a better and usually a full proof way of fixing a problem. But like you said if he wants to add to his own problems that's on him. Let's make this clear to him too since he is new. Nobody on this site or other sites are responsible if you blow up your device, your gf leaves you, or you burn down your house and get fired. :highfive:
It took nearly 24 hours to upload due to my dreadful internet connection but here it is, the latest Android version for the galaxy Mega I9200 AKA Kit Kat I9200XXUDNE4, repacked with a full Knox free bootloader.:good:
DISCLAIMER
I'm not responsible for anything, as usual procede only if you know what you do, and make a backup beforehands in case things go out of control.
This said since this ROM is Knox free you will be able to get back to 4.2.2 or to whatever ROM you want in case you don't like Kit Kat.
IMPORTANT
You can flash this ROM ONLY if you come from a non Knox Rom.
It means that if you were on a ROM that had Knox, like the latest 4.2.2 versions, you can't flash this ROM and in that case you'll have to go for the regular 4.4.2 Knox version available at sammobile.
BEFORE TO FLASH
Get a custom recovery, cuz this ROM comes without any recovery.
Why?
Because at the time I was testing it I kept my custom recovery to see if I could reuse it with Kit Kat, and since it worked, and since I don't want to loose again 24 hours to upload an other ROM with a recovery, you'll have to go like this.
There are plenty of custom recoveries on the forum, as for me I use that one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2415294
but you can use any one you like, it doesn't matter as long as it has been installed BEFORE to flash Kit Kat.
Edit
If for some reasons you want to stick to stock recovery head to post #5, I've attached it there with some instructions.
THE FLASH
Download the ROM, unrar it and you'll get a tar.md5 file.
Open ODIN 3.04, put the file in the PDA section.
On your phone, enter download mode (press volume down and start at the same time), then connect it to your computer.
Once it has been recognized by Odin (it gets blue on the left upper case) start the flash.
It will take approx 5 mns before it reboots, that's it.
If everything goes ok it will reboot twice and then it will enter the set up wizard.
It could be that some app forces close and that it reboots one more time, in that case you'll have to enter recovery and format /data (and since you have a custom recovery you can do so without erasing your sd card contents).
ROOT
Easy, download the latest SuperSU_1.94.zip from the master chainfire, flash it from recovery, reboot, voila.
REMOVING THE LAST KNOX TRACES:
This has to be done manually (I could have done it and repacked/uploaded a new pre rooted ROM with everything done but sorry, my connection is too slow )
There are some Knox apps in the /system/app folder and in the system/priv-app folder:
-the ones that have Knox in their name are easy to guess;
-one is called KLMSAgent and should be deleted as well, and so too ContainerAgent.apk, ContainerAgent.odex, ContainerEventsRelayManager.apk and ContainerEventsRelayManager.odex.
In the /system/lib folder delete libknoxdrawglfunction.so.
Delete completely the system/preloadedkiosk folder and the system/preloadedsso folder.
In data/data delete the com.sec.knox.seandroid folder and the com.sec.knox.store, and the other com.sec.knox whatever folders there are.
Enjoy!!!:silly:
Stay tuned, in the coming days I will put some mods here...
I already made a deodexed version but I don't think I will upload it since it takes too long (24 hours again), so if anyone with a better connection feels like doing it he or she is welcome!
THE LINK?
Here it is:cyclops::
https://mega.co.nz/#!6lhzGaab!zIFiED3APN7_lHAT5YRPbgJqb6lyrLZJwjs-gw9kLEQ
CREDITS
@SilviuMik for the tuto
@Chainfire for the root
@XDA for the opportunities it gives to all of us
Reserved, for some hopefully soon to come stuff
I'm guessing we can't jsut flash this in recovery, right?
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Get a custom recovery, cuz this ROM comes without any recovery.
Why?
Because at the time I was testing it I kept my custom recovery to see if I could reuse it with Kit Kat, and since it worked, and since I don't want to loose again 24 hours to upload an other ROM with a recovery, you'll have to go like this.
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I expect you are ready for udate and version WITH recovery already started to upload? Please be serious of your work!
trurl3 said:
I expect you are ready for udate and version WITH recovery already started to upload? Please be serious of your work!
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Yep, I have to be serious:cyclops: so here it is, I packed a stock recovery in case someone needs it for some reason (s).
It took (only) 15 mns to upload (not bad for a 10 mb file )...
Download the file, open Odin 3.04, put the file in PDA, flash, now you have KK's stock recovery, boooooo:laugh:
http://d-h.st/PGb
@bnb25
nope, you can't flash the ROM from recovery.
If some people are interested I can upload the deodexed version in the coming days when I have time, unless someone else does it before
I flashed somr stock rooted Rom awhile ago on the gf's phone. I been waiting on this update b4 doing anything. The phone acts up. Performance issues. She keeps ot close to full. Moving to sdcard doesn't work anymore. (That broke b4 filling the phone up. But didn't know that when we bought a 16gb sdcard.) So....thus has knox removed. You mentioned stock recovery as an option. You mean the stock kitkat recovery for the phone? Meaning that will introduce knox if you choose it? And if you do choose stock recovery with knox it can be rooted right? Just saying cause usually when first comes out it takes a lil time for someone to root it.
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i try this rom for 10 minutes and it keep restarting..
so i flash again with ODIN 3.04, and it keep restarting again..
i have wipe data and cache+dalvik, i use twrp recovery.
can you troubleshoot this problem?
thank you :good:
sorry for my bad english...
Works fine for me. I had latest official 4.2.2 rom; I then flash a custom recovery and a rooted rom before I flash this rom via odin. After flashing this rom, I wiped it factory reset. All is well for me. 24hrs now. Thumbs up me general.....
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@ninja_unmatched:
the recovery I attached is the stock KK recovery, and AFAIK it doesn't have Knox in it. About rooting a Knox cursed ROM, some people say it's easy but I don't have any personal experience on that matter.
But anyway, why don't you want to use a custom recovery?
I kept the CWM I had on 4.2.2, and after I upgraded to 4.4.2 it took me 2 minutes to root with Chainfire's SuperSu_1.94.zip...
So now I'm on Knox free KK, with custom recovery and root.
@congquer:
do a full factory reset and see if it helps.
@fpage:
nice to read that it works fine for you!:good:
@all:
if you are rooted and want to enable quad multi windows view (up to 4 apps opened at once on the same screen, fully resizable), check my thread in the themes and apps section..:
One of the best KK's new features cool:...
works like a charm, i've installed via odin, but lost root for some reason
Well the girl is like any other nooby internet user. She knows enough to get it infected over and over....lol. Knox actually helps a lil with that. I used to use my phone (Note 3) to check questionable sites out for clients. Knox would do its pop ups alerting me to there being something going on that I do not want. It has actually helped....weird thing sort of. Now of course it doesn't do that anymore but for her......it might lower my headaches if you know what I mean?
But...no I'm about to try it out now anyways after I backup her phone.
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It could be that some app forces close and that it reboots one more time, in that case you'll have to enter recovery and format /data
This step right here causes the same boot loop mentioned. An app forces closes just like you said. soon as you format /data after a reboot it goes into a boot loop. I am also using TWRP 2.7
You have to clear cache not data. Even with that alot of apps just force close.
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I am rooted and working like a charm. Quad window working and alot of modules via xposed installer.
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Well it didn't work for me. And the supersu only caused freezing then reboot. I just went and flashed stock. Maybe I'll root it later. The process also messed with the sdcard. Made it unreadable. So I used an app (Called Photorec) to recover some of the files from the 16gb sdcard she has.
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whenever I want to delete knox from system/app, it always failed to delete.
I wonder why?
@ninja_unmatched:
your girl seems to be like mine, willy to use the phone but messing it all the time, and then calling her man to fix it:cyclops:.
But you are worse tham me cuz you use her phone as a guinea pig!
The problem with SuperSu is that at first you can't install it a a system app.
In order to fix this you'll need either twrp recovery or aroma file manager ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646108 ) and do as follows:
-download SuperSu zip,
-extract the app from the zip but keep the zip intact,
-flash the SuperSu zip,
-do not reboot but go to your file system while still in recovery, either from the twrp menu or by flashing the aroma file manager file,
-delete SuperSu from the system/app folder,
-reboot,
-install the SuperSu apk manually as you would with any apk.
Now you are rooted, and your SuperSu being on your data/app folder it doesn't force close anymore.
Later you can convert SuperSu into a system app from the apk's settings.
But this force close is a problem on KK, cuz everytime an app FC (not only SuperSu) the phone reboots, pretty annoying and definitely a deal breaker for me.
The messing with the files is another problem, it's because somehow KK uses another format than JB. But this one is easy to overcome, just connect your phone to your computer and copy the files to it, or you can copy them from recovery/aroma file manager (that's what I did, at first I thought it was gone but nope, it's just a format stoy) to anywhere on your phone.
@fpage:
I'm happy for you if everything works:good:
@serpentlord:
salaam manis dari Jowo!:laugh:
Are you rooted? Sorry if the question sounds obvious, but if you are then deleting the Knox apks shouldn't be a problem.
Otherwise if it doesn't work, use aroma file manager (see above, and don't forget to push thanks for @amarullz our dev from Bandung!) and delete the Knox stuff from within recovery.
That said I went back to 4.2.2, this KK is plagued with bugs and I don't like the new multi windows implementation, so until they make a more stable version and until I find out whether I can implement some of JB's multi windows functions in it or not I'll stick to 4.2.2...
I'll make soon a thread about specific KK's bugs, hopefully sammy will listen but don't hold your breath
A guinea pig....lol. yeah. Only thing I ever did was flash a stock 4.2.2 rooted Rom. For wifi tethering purposes. It was fine for awhile. She starts complaining about it....I find she filled the thing up. Apps, apps, apps, mad games. I move some of the apps to the 8gb card. That helped. Later she fills it up again. I get a 16gb card and then find out it won't move anything to the card. Broke that somewhere after the 8gb card move. She goes on facebook and clicks on those questionable site posts and jave you sign up while giving them permission to post on your profile and all sorts if sites I find are questionable. That and apps from blackmart and from that site that offers hacked android games/apps.
So far now she seems fine on the stock official 4.4.2. It has a few widgets and apps in Russian. I've seen a few bugs that clear up on their own.
1. The lock screen took a bit to update. (What I mean is this. I know when playing music will say Milk it will show also on the lock screen. It wasn't doing that. Had to reboot to get that going.)
2. There is an app called Wish. It allows you to send something you think another person would be interested in that also has wish. That feature doesn't work to well. You can choose facebook or google+. FB no work at all. I think that is some other reason for that one. Google+ works but only if you choose the regular browser. Through chrome the page doesn't pop up woth the option to use the app to open the link.
And generally I've just run into these lil quarks that eventually just start working. Or partially work enough to get by.
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unclefab said:
salaam manis dari Jowo!:laugh:
Are you rooted? Sorry if the question sounds obvious, but if you are then deleting the Knox apks shouldn't be a problem.
Otherwise if it doesn't work, use aroma file manager (see above, and don't forget to push thanks for @amarullz our dev from Bandung!) and delete the Knox stuff from within recovery.
That said I went back to 4.2.2, this KK is plagued with bugs and I don't like the new multi windows implementation, so until they make a more stable version and until I find out whether I can implement some of JB's multi windows functions in it or not I'll stick to 4.2.2...
I'll make soon a thread about specific KK's bugs, hopefully sammy will listen but don't hold your breath
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Salam manis dari Jakarta! :laugh:
Yes, my device is rooted. I've tried root browser, root explorer and soon. but it ends with the same result. I wonder why.
And my device also keep restarting every 10 minutes. Is it a bug?
@ninja_unmatched:
I can't tell about this wish.apk and widgets, at the time I was still on 4.4.2 I had stripped the Rom down to only about 20 system apps.
I allways do this on my ROMs cuz I don't like stock apps, I rather uninstall all that stuff and replace it by third part apps that are easier to manage and not so much on the spying/bloatware side...
@serpentlord:
what happens is probably that you have an app that forces closes, and this is what makes the phone reboot. I had the same problem and in my case it was youtube, in your case it could be any other app.
Just start your phone and keep an eye on it until it says "sorry app whatever has closed". Then if it reboots you know from wish app it comes and you can uninstall it and/or replace it with another app or another version from the same app.
Check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/supersu-please-t3110954
I tried it and got temporary root on my Verizon Note Edge. I know it is temporary but at least it is root.
I do not have the developer version btw..
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
sbrownla said:
Did you use the Note 4 .img file?
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I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
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I just followed the video that is posted in the OP and that gave me temporary root. I didn't use any .img files.
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Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
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Doesn't it say to use one of the downloadable boot img files from the linked site? It's a boot.img file.
Also what sorts of things have you tried so far with it?
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I have tried Root Explorer and it allows me to read and write to the SD card. I have Root Call blocker and that works as well, I have tried Xposed Framework and so far no go, it does a reboot and you will lose root. This is still a work in progress but it looks a lot more promising than a couple of months ago.
I did not use any img files due to mine being a note edge and I think those files are for those who have taken the lollipop upgrade on their Note 4's. Since we have not received the lollipop upgrade to our edge's yet you should be good to at least temporary root because it is only working on KitKat.
I was able to temp root with king root 4.0.1 apk ... and was able to remove bloatware files from: system/app and: system/priv-app but after reboot they are all back.
Update.... after temp rooting. . Install Titanium Backup and Freeze system apps will enable you to "turn off" apps that you otherwise wouldn't be able to disable through the stock app manager in settings menu.
See screenshot below. ...
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Screenshot of TouchWiz disabled because I use a different Home Launcher. And YES it keeps disabled through a reboot.
Was able to turn off The KNOX apps as well... seems to keep root longer without rebooting. HOWEVER root doesn't last forever.. meaning apps like Titanium Backup will lose root... and you will have to reboot and run King root again to get temp root to freeze more apps etc.
This is still a work in progress, hopefully the losing root problem will be fixed soon.
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
Mike02z said:
This is nice but after messing with it all week I gave up. I could easily get temp.root and get SU installed but you lose root after about an hour even if you touch nothing. You will also get random reboots a lot and then have to start over.
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If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
Keep at it guys! I'll join when I get some time tomorrow and Monday
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If you install Titanium Backup and "freeze" all the Knox apps [see post 7, 8, & 9] you can keep root long enough to freeze all unwanted bloatware. That way you can at least "turn off" [disable] those apps from running in background etc. It's something more then we had.
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Yup, this worked. All week I was trying to "remove" these applications via tibu but yesterday I just froze them. I still lost root but see everything I froze is still listed as "Turned off" in Application manager. That will do for now, Thanks!
when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
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when you temp root, use TiBu to "convert to user app" this should move all the files to the user apps directory instead of system apps then try to uninstall and see if they come back after reboot. Just a hunch but I can't try since I don't have the retail version.
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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I do not see the option in Titanium Backup to ”convert to user app" .. Am I missing something?
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You need to long press on the app. Towards the end of the setting that popup you should see the convert to user app setting.
Easiest way I found was to freeze all the apps you don't want, filter for frozen apps then go through the list converting them to user apps
Edit: this doesn't work. They will install themselves back after doing this.
I figured they would come back.. freezing app is as good as it gets for now.
long press or swipe right to get to the additional options. also thank you guys for confirming that for me. i wasnt for sure since I dont have the retail version to test out on.
also i think i remember reading in the note 4 forum that they were able to get it perma deleted by uninstalling all updates then uninstalling the app or something along those lines. I will go back and read it again to be sure of what i read, i may have misread.
I used this method to disable knox and bloatware on my Verizon Edge even without root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/disable-knox-ota-root-t2972263
As far as temp root is concerned using King root, I suppose while on a rooted state, one can make changes to the system such as:
1) Enabling 3rd party apps like ES File Explorer to write to SD card by modifying platform.xml as described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
2) Enabling hidden menu (if this is important to you) by modifying /efs/carrier/HiddenMenu file.
Even if you lose root, the changes you made to these files should stick, correct?