Hope it can handle 32GB well without any issues.
A normal class 10 is enough? Any specific suggestions?
Thanks in adv
kwyx1 said:
Hope it can handle 32GB well without any issues.
A normal class 10 is enough? Any specific suggestions?
Thanks in adv
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Some time ago class 4 and class 6 cards were faster when dealing with small files. But it seems that nowadays class 10 cards are superior.
Class 6 slightly slower class 10, the copy speed also depends on the cluster size (I mean small) class 10 always faster class 6.
In Optimus G only MTP connection because of files are transferred slowly by themselves and there are errors, so that no matter what class 6 or 10
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Class 6 slightly slower class 10, the copy speed also depends on the cluster size (I mean small) class 10 always faster class 6.
In Optimus G only MTP connection because of files are transferred slowly by themselves and there are errors, so that no matter what class 6 or 10
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Transfer speed from PC to Card is fine.
But its interaction with the phone should be fast.
class 10 means 10MBPS, but there are sdhc and sdxc cards which support 20+ and 50 MBPS write speeds respectively if your phone supports such speeds..So my intent was to ask that.
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Transfer speed from PC to Card is fine.
But its interaction with the phone should be fast.
class 10 means 10MBPS, but there are sdhc and sdxc cards which support 20+ and 50 MBPS write speeds respectively if your phone supports such speeds..So my intent was to ask that.
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I use a class 10 and even though I don't notice any speed different, it is sufficient enough. Only use class 10 if you use a camera alot since burst photos can be saved easily.
AND... don't buy SD cards from eBay if they are really cheap, most often they are fake.
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I use a class 10 and even though I don't notice any speed different, it is sufficient enough. Only use class 10 if you use a camera alot since burst photos can be saved easily.
AND... don't buy SD cards from eBay if they are really cheap, most often they are fake.
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SanDisk 128GB card works in e970. Mine came in today, using it right now.
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I use a SanDisk ultra 16 GB microSDHC card and copying speeds for large files (>100 mb) is around 24-25 MBps.
Go for 32GB
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My gf was nice enough to get me a 4gig class 2 sd card...I was wondering if there were any downsides to me having this and if any could then be fixed withough having to get a class 6 which from my searches and reading in the forums if a really good investment.
your class 2 card will just not be as fast, but it still usable.
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My gf was nice enough to get me a 4gig class 2 sd card...I was wondering if there were any downsides to me having this and if any could then be fixed withough having to get a class 6 which from my searches and reading in the forums if a really good investment.
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downsides is..class 2 wont run roms as fast as class 6. but still pretty much usable
4gig class 6 on newegg.com is now about 14 after shipping
sd cards and class ratings
The problem with sd cards, are that the rated class is often way off. They often perform much better.
For example, I have two kingston class 5 cards, that have read speeds at 12.5MB/sec, and one Sandisk class 4 with read speeds at >16MB/sec.
As comparison, I have a no-name class 6 that barely reads at 8MB/sec.
All three brand name cards also writes faster than the no name class 6. So why they are rated class 4 and not 6 is a mystery to me.
Ideally, we should have a thread where people posted the read/write speed of their sd crads, and included a link to where you bought it from. Mymemory.co.uk is a good place to get them from, in my expoerience. Does anyone know of online shops shipping worldwide that actually states the r/w speed of the cards? Or better yet, a table/wiki with this information?
To answer OPs question though: Class 2 will probaby be slow with Hero-roms or apps2sd. But you cn always test it and see how well it performs. I imagine reading speed is most important.
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The problem with sd cards, are that the rated class is often way off. They often perform much better.
For example, I have two kingston class 5 cards, that have read speeds at 12.5MB/sec, and one Sandisk class 4 with read speeds at >16MB/sec.
As comparison, I have a no-name class 6 that barely reads at 8MB/sec.
All three brand name cards also writes faster than the no name class 6. So why they are rated class 4 and not 6 is a mystery to me.
Ideally, we should have a thread where people posted the read/write speed of their sd crads, and included a link to where you bought it from. Mymemory.co.uk is a good place to get them from, in my expoerience. Does anyone know of online shops shipping worldwide that actually states the r/w speed of the cards? Or better yet, a table/wiki with this information?
To answer OPs question though: Class 2 will probaby be slow with Hero-roms or apps2sd. But you cn always test it and see how well it performs. I imagine reading speed is most important.
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Sandisks are on average the fastest of the flash memory cards... and i believe you pay a slight premium for it? i have one, but from amazon for like $30 so idk
I currently run an 8 gig class 4 card by PNY with a one gig partition for my apps. It's been slowing down lately (because I'm using nearly half of it). Gonna get my wife to get me a 16 gig class 6 card next month.
I had a classless 2 gb card and it runs just the same as this sandisk 8gb class 6.
I don't see what everyone talks about. I tried them both on cm 4.0.4 and now with this new CM and I don't see a significant difference.
I'm running like 7 widgets all over the 5 pages.
Maybe I just can't tell...
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I had a classless 2 gb card and it runs just the same as this sandisk 8gb class 6.
I don't see what everyone talks about. I tried them both on cm 4.0.4 and now with this new CM and I don't see a significant difference.
I'm running like 7 widgets all over the 5 pages.
Maybe I just can't tell...
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yeah it seems that the classless cards, although slower on file transfers, are not maximizing bandwidth with swap and stuff so looks like it's even... and only SDHCs have a class looks like. my stock G1 card worked fine but crashed a few times with apps2sd... running hero is probably why though.
The class refers to the minimum read/write speed necessary for continuous streaming of information, not the maximum read/write speed (more important for digital cameras and camcorders than our devices). The common misconception is that a class 6 card is faster than a class 2 card. You have to be aware of the MAXIMUM read/write speed which will tell you which performs better: ie- you may have a class 2 with a higher read/write speed than the class 6 which would make the class 2 faster.
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The class refers to the minimum read/write speed necessary for continuous streaming of information, not the maximum read/write speed (more important for digital cameras and camcorders than our devices). The common misconception is that a class 6 card is faster than a class 2 card. You have to be aware of the MAXIMUM read/write speed which will tell you which performs better: ie- you may have a class 2 with a higher read/write speed than the class 6 which would make the class 2 faster.
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that usually happens when people get a lower-quality/class Class 6 card thinking they're all fast... fact is, Sandisk makes the Class 6 Mobile Ultras which get 16mb/s average and maxxed at 24mb/s once for me while some crappy Class 6's might just get the bare minimum for Class 6: 6 mb/s
I have been following xda-developers since I unlocked my first at&t tilt, and people are always making that mistake! Just look up any HERO ROM and they will require "Class 6 micro-SD Card"! The fact is the class is not a potential speed rating, whether it is 2 or 6 or even 10! The class # refers to the lower limit of the device that is using the card, not the capability of the card. For example, if your device is capable of writing at 12Mb/s then you can use any class card rated at 12Mb/s regardless of whether it is a class 2 or class 6 and neither will be faster. Conversely if your device is only capable of writing at 4Mb/s then you cannot use a calss 6 card because the class 6 card requires a device to write continuously at lease 6Mb/s. Most people think that a class 6 card is labeled "class 6" because it is guaranteed to read/write at least 6Mb/s and a class 2 is labeled "class 2" because it is guaranteed to write at least 2Mb/s; but that is not true. The speed rating is not the same as the class rating. They have very little to do with one another.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6973962#post6973962
^inspired by that HD2 thread... i bought a new trascent microSD class 6 card and copied all my sandisk class 2 card's content over (yes 14GB, basically almost full) and the class 6 just kills the class 2 performance.
i mean... it's not like going to a NEW phone fast, but it's noticeably faster when accessing in terms of loading/saving them! pretty unbelievable!
anyway, just wanted to share it if you guys are still on Hermes like me. besides you can keep carrying it forward to newer devices that support class 6 or 10 microSD cards it's pretty good until SDXC becomes cheaper and more common place.
Yeah, that's quite logical... I mean, the Class 2 performance is equal to 16mbps of transfer speeds (around 2 MB/s) and Class 6 is equal to some 48mbps (6 MB/s). That's three times faster. My microSDHC 8GB is also Class 6. Is it possible to use a Class 10 memory card with Hermes?
well i dunno how this works really. by its virtue having a SDHC/SD capable standard card readers shouldn't it read ALL the classes and perform to that class?
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Yeah, that's quite logical... I mean, the Class 2 performance is equal to 16mbps of transfer speeds (around 2 MB/s) and Class 6 is equal to some 48mbps (6 MB/s). That's three times faster. My microSDHC 8GB is also Class 6. Is it possible to use a Class 10 memory card with Hermes?
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I just got myself a Class 6 16GB recently; and yes, it's insanely fast.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0304662
Anyone know what class this is?
Thanks
nitrogen618 said:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0304662
Anyone know what class this is?
Thanks
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It doesn't say.
Here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/16GB-Class-...ory_Card_Readers_Adapters&hash=item2a17118086
Class 10 16gb = 22$, 32 gb class 10 = 50$
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http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0304662
Anyone know what class this is?
Thanks
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I'd bet Class 4.
http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Signa...FTCK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324259287&sr=8-1
Nice name brand card from a solid seller (obviously). Prime free 2 day shipping. Had mine awhile and the 16GB works great.
Actually, I want a Class 4 card, due to the high performance of Random write. It's a LOT faster than class 10 cards.
Thanks guys.
not sure really
nitrogen618 said:
Actually, I want a Class 4 card, due to the high performance of Random write. It's a LOT faster than class 10 cards.
Thanks guys.
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I believe these are current classes and speeds:
Class Speed
Class 2 2 MB/s
Class 4 4 MB/s
Class 6 6 MB/s
Class 10 10 MB/s
Class 10 is over twice as fast as class 4.
That's not all there is to it. Sustained write speeds are different from random write speeds. Its good to have a balance of the 2. Not all brands of cards are created equal. Some class 10 cards do not perform as well as say a sandisk class 4.
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I just got my class 10 card in the mail today and stupid question I put in but now how do I use it? Like if I wanna put backups on it or move my music or do I need to format it?
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Anyone? Can I search from the phone xda app. I want to find out the best way to use the sd card. It says 16gb but only has 14. I' d really like to safely put or move my backups and rooms and mods to it and set it as default for 1080p video recording.
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I downloaded this app, and changed my sdcard from 148 to 2048 (its a class 10 16gb, it made pictures load faster and some other stuff) But how do you measure your SD card's read/write speed?
Like here: http://androidforums.com/lg-optimus-m/307607-class-10-microsd-cards-faster-app-loading.html
hello i just got an amaze and with its camera and video quality i think i need a better sd card as my current one is class 2. any recommendations and letting me me know what the phone can handle without paying for more than i need would be greatly appreciated.
thanks very much
The Amaze can handle a class 10 memory card. This would be preferred as it has the fastest read and write speed that I know of. I am currently using a 16GB class 6 SanDisk and it works really well.
Hope this is helpful. Or maybe someone else can give you more info.
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windcan said:
hello i just got an amaze and with its camera and video quality i think i need a better sd card as my current one is class 2. any recommendations and letting me me know what the phone can handle without paying for more than i need would be greatly appreciated.
thanks very much
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This should do the trick.
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...H4U0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325371114&sr=8-2
Looks like it may be worth it to go straight to class 10.
Thanks
PNY class 10.
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I just got a Samsung 32gb class 10 and it works great.
what is "PNY"?
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what is "PNY"?
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PNY is just a brand
Picked up a Lexar 32gb class 10 for $45 on boxing day. (for you Americans, that's the day after Christmas)
lol
marleyfan61 said:
Picked up a Lexar 32gb class 10 for $45 on boxing day. (for you Americans, that's the day after Christmas)
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Confused
My Amaze is on it's way to my door this Wednesday, and I too am on the hunt for a good class 10 micro SD card. I had a Patriot 32 GB ordered from Amazon (it had 4+ stars), but then I started reading specific user ratings. It almost looks as though there is a problem with quality/consistency with many of the 32GB class 10s. The Patriot, and several others, had quite a few recent users complain that their class 10 doesn't run any faster then their old class 2 or 4. (The complaints I tried to focused on are from users who had run speed tests and didn't just provide seat-of-the-pants analysis.) Admittedly, I was going for as cheap as I could (the Patriot was only $47), but I looked at several others and they had spotty speed comments as well.
Does anyone have specific knowledge or insight on this? Is it an issue with lower cost manufacturers whereby one card is great but the next can be dreadful. Is it the nature of the beast?
I appreciate your comments.
A class 10 card isn't the way to go with smartphones. Best to get a class 4.
Sharpshooterrr said:
A class 10 card isn't the way to go with smartphones. Best to get a class 4.
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really, class 4, why?
too late for me, order my 32gb class 10
curious to understand this whole thing
thanks
Sharpshooterrr said:
A class 10 card isn't the way to go with smartphones. Best to get a class 4.
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I could understand saying a class 10 isn't necessary, but to say it isn't the way to go, a class 4 is best doesn't make sense. Care to explain why?
UHS-1 Cards
I just read where UHS-1 class microSD's "were made for mobile devices". Something about being specifically designed to work with those operating systems. Anyone have experience with any of those? They're awfully expensive.
If you uses a class 2 SD card with a capacity of less than 16Gb and mostly uses it to transfer small files between your phone and PC - that would be sufficiency enough.
If you intend to use a bigger card, say, 32Gb or 64Gb and you are doing a lot of transferring MP3, movies, pictures ect ... especially if moving BIG files, say, more than 1 Gb each (e.g a full MP4 movie may take up to almost 2Gb)
OR
You are frequently backup your SDCard contains and moving them between PC and phone. You will appreciates the higher speed/class of your SDCard. Higher class means higher speed in reading and writting hence saving you a lot of time.
You will not notice much differences between a class 2 and a class 10 card when using it inside your phone though.
An SDCard speeding test's result will be differ from devices and that's exactly manufacturer's stated on their package/info, but, basically you got what you paid for. As we all know, Sandisk is the most expensive card out there and there is a reason for it, just do a little research and you'll know why. Sandisk classed their card at the minimum speed that their cards are capable of, whereas other manufacturer tend to class their card at the average speed that their cards capable of. Meaning a classs 10 Samsung/PNY/Patriot card may not capable of reaching the claimed speed (because, well, results are varies on devices) and the result maybe a little lower than claimed (I've tried Samsung class 10 and PNY class 10 test and the result is somewhere more or less than 9Gb/s writting).
Anyway, a class 2 16Gb Sandisk card is good enough for an average user whereas a higher class/capacity card will increase performances for those who demand more for their task/hobbies/usage
I would agree with the post above, right on the spot. I had a 8 gb class 4, 16 gb class 4, and now 32gb class 10. Did not visibly notice speed in my phone but did notice it when transferring files. You will only benefit when transferring larger files like 1 gb or more.
I only transfer my recorded videos, pictures, mp3 and that's it. I think i once transferred a movie or two.
What would have taken me 1 hr on 16 gb class 4 took me 20 - 30 min on my patriot 32 gb class 10. No problems on it since nov so far.
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A class 10 card isn't the way to go with smartphones. Best to get a class 4.
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I have a class 4 card and the video is choppy when using HD recording. It can't write the larger amount of data fast enough.
A class 10 FTW
marleyfan61 said:
I could understand saying a class 10 isn't necessary, but to say it isn't the way to go, a class 4 is best doesn't make sense. Care to explain why?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/32-gb-micro-sd-analysis-speed-test/
anything over class 4 sacrafices random read/write speeds...meaning, just to write faster the data is more fragmented. Over time, the speed becomes slower and the table used to keep track of data must access parts of the fragments that are free...this reduces performance in higher class cards...if you look at Sandisk they their class two performs way above the minimum write speed, almost double...I always buy sandisk...nothing else...their quality is unmatched...they are the pioneers...A class 4 or class 6 sandisk would outperform many of the class 10's that people are buying right now.
Sometimes as Binary's card has, they lose integrity because of this reason...the index becomes messed up and the data becomes lost eaiser in higher class SD cards and lower quality SD cards...I believe Sandisk tries to minimize this even in their higher speed cards...
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If you guys take a look at the bitrate of the 1080p video and also add the audio bit rate it doesn't even come close to being 2 MB/s write speed which is a class 2 SD card...the highest bitrate for video I got was 11182 (kilobits per second) = 1.36499023 megabytes per second...add the 127kbps of sound and you barely have 1.4 MB/s write speed needed for the HD video recorded by our amaze...hope this clears things up.
SDSDQUA-064G-A11A vs. SDSDQUA-064G-U46A. Both are 64GB. Supposedly, A11A is an American version of the card.
There are a two more issues though.
1. Galaxy Note's compatibility with UHS-I speeds. I heard it's not compatible, and Samsung does not list Note as compatible either. So whether you get a class 6 or class 10 card makes no difference in performance.
2. There's a info on ebay about these cards not working on Android phones after upgrade to ICS. Could anyone confirm this for Note.
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SDSDQUA-064G-A11A vs. SDSDQUA-064G-U46A. Both are 64GB. Supposedly, A11A is an American version of the card.
There are a two more issues though.
1. Galaxy Note's compatibility with UHS-I speeds. I heard it's not compatible, and Samsung does not list Note as compatible either. So whether you get a class 6 or class 10 card makes no difference in performance.
2. There's a info on ebay about these cards not working on Android phones after upgrade to ICS. Could anyone confirm this for Note.
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64GB Sandisk class 6 working fine on mine no issues?
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Kant Phase Diz said:
64GB Sandisk class 6 working fine on mine no issues?
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Thanks for the info.
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Thanks for the info.
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Np bud just hit the thanks button
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Np bud just hit the thanks button
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Using a Sandisk 64GB UHS 1 card..never tested speeds, but getting full capacity on UCLF FJ rom so it works good enough for me.
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64GB Sandisk class 6 working fine on mine no issues?
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Same. I'm on ICS BTW.
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SDSDQUA-064G-A11A vs. SDSDQUA-064G-U46A. Both are 64GB. Supposedly, A11A is an American version of the card.
There are a two more issues though.
1. Galaxy Note's compatibility with UHS-I speeds. I heard it's not compatible, and Samsung does not list Note as compatible either. So whether you get a class 6 or class 10 card makes no difference in performance.
2. There's a info on ebay about these cards not working on Android phones after upgrade to ICS. Could anyone confirm this for Note.
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IIRC there's no such thing as UHS compatibility. Is a rating just like Class X. I suppose your throughput limit could be lower than that of the card, but its both unlikely, and it wouldn't be a compatibility issue. It would just be a bottleneck (still, not a bad bottleneck to have). And SD cards are like controlling girlfriends...they stick with you through multiple states, multiple phone numbers, and you practically have to get a restraining order on em to get em gone.
I've never heard of anyone lifetime writing out a nand device before outside of an enterprise load (ssd)..a 6 year old crappy flash drive, yea....but I think that has more to do with quality, and for the most part, higher speeds (above class 10 speeds) = higher quality.
Have a Class 6 working just fine on my GNote running ICS.
I have both these cards; the class 6 and class 10. Class 6 is designated "mobile" on the card while Class 10 does not say it on the card. Either way, both work perfectly on ICS. Just make sure to let the phone format the drive, not your Window's PC. (FYI, Windows will try to format to NTFS which is not recognizable by our phones. Only FAT32 works).
I google and only fail to identify class 6 and 10 microsdxc card. How to differentiate between those two? What i notice from images there got symbol '1' inside the big 'U'.
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I have both these cards; the class 6 and class 10. Class 6 is designated "mobile" on the card while Class 10 does not say it on the card. Either way, both work perfectly on ICS. Just make sure to let the phone format the drive, not your Window's PC. (FYI, Windows will try to format to NTFS which is not recognizable by our phones. Only FAT32 works).
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Have you done any benchmarking on the random write speeds of these? I am curious to know the difference between the class 6 and 10...
SteveG
64 Class 6 been fine since day one in my Note. Class 10 currently on order.
sgogo said:
Have you done any benchmarking on the random write speeds of these? I am curious to know the difference between the class 6 and 10...
SteveG
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Anybody?
Do you know?
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Anybody?
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You do know that each class number relates to the WRITE speed in MB/s. So a class 4 writes at 4MB/sec, Class 6 is 6MB/s and so on and so fourth.
jb0nd38372 said:
You do know that each class number relates to the WRITE speed in MB/s. So a class 4 writes at 4MB/sec, Class 6 is 6MB/s and so on and so fourth.
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Yes, but thats the "sequential" speed. Important for transferring large files or taking hd video.
I am interested in the random write speed... this is more important in normal daily operations.
Some people have claimed that the class 6 is better than the class 10 for random.
SteveG
sgogo said:
Yes, but thats the "sequential" speed. Important for transferring large files or taking hd video.
I am interested in the random write speed... this is more important in normal daily operations.
Some people have claimed that the class 6 is better than the class 10 for random.
SteveG
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Some one will have to run some tests to see the random speeds in the newer sandisk cards
Galaxy Note @ mobile
Speed class is NOT for sequentail write speed, but mor e like a random write speed of certain size of data. For example, Class 10 test 25 random write of 4MB size file. Within the 4MB, it is a sequntial write of 512K or smaller data chunk. Class 10 rating need to garannted for each of the 4MB, the write speed is 10MB/s or above.
Have that said, you can have a SD/uSD card that has 25MB/s+ or more sequential write speed but fail Class 10 test due to mis-align data boundary. (Garbage collection happening). Also, Class speed is only garanteed for a non-aged, newly formatted card. As flash memory wear out, they become slower. Also if there was flamented data in the card prior to speed class type of write, it can be significantly slower than the Class speed rating too.
Now, tt really doesn't means much if what you write to it is music or photos or files, something with a known size before the write happened. Because size is known, the write will almost always be purely sequenctial. When the size of the file is unknown, in in shooting a video, that is where class speed come to play. It is what garrannted minmum write speed, so that incoming data won't get drop.
I got a Ultra 64gb micoHDXC Sandisk in my note, running great. I have about 4 gigs left, lots of movies. Class 10