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Verizon will be allowing customers who sign a new 2 year contract to a new 4G phone to up the 2GB plan to 4GB. This is only for new customers or customers already on a tiered plan. Those of us who already have unlimited will get to keep it.
This gets me even more excited. I am switching on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving so I hope I can still get this deal.
nice, thats a good selling point for this month, i just got the email from my boss. gonna start pushing that to try to get some new activations on 4g phones this month!
I still have the old unlimited plan and glad to hear we can keep it.
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Very happy the they are continuing the unlimited data for us long time Verizoners.
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the new plans are still b.s. regardless of what "specials" they are offering. I left T-Mob & came over on the unlimited.. my wife is still on T-Mob(she wanted to finish the contract) & I was planning on bringing her to Verizon... but unless they allow me to keep the unlimited on her line also then they can f themselves and she'll just stick with T-Mob
Do people really use that much data? I have unlimited on AT&T and thinking of switching to Verizon for the Rezound or GN and getting the 4GB deal.
Even though I have unlimited I have never gone above 2GB so I know 4GB will be plenty (Besides AT&T will throttle you down between 4 and 5 gb on unlimited)
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Do people really use that much data? I have unlimited on AT&T and thinking of switching to Verizon for the Rezound or GN and getting the 4GB deal.
Even though I have unlimited I have never gone above 2GB so I know 4GB will be plenty (Besides AT&T will throttle you down between 4 and 5 gb on unlimited)
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Yeah. Verizon throttles too but we have Throttle Removers. I think 4GB will be plenty for most people. I have unlimited, but I don't think I've ever used more than 2GB. Maybe that will change now that I have 4G...
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Do people really use that much data? I have unlimited on AT&T and thinking of switching to Verizon for the Rezound or GN and getting the 4GB deal.
Even though I have unlimited I have never gone above 2GB so I know 4GB will be plenty (Besides AT&T will throttle you down between 4 and 5 gb on unlimited)
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It's just nice knowing I don't have to keep an eye on my data usage during a busy month
Zytryx said:
Do people really use that much data? I have unlimited on AT&T and thinking of switching to Verizon for the Rezound or GN and getting the 4GB deal.
Even though I have unlimited I have never gone above 2GB so I know 4GB will be plenty (Besides AT&T will throttle you down between 4 and 5 gb on unlimited)
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on a slow month I do around 20 - 30GB. the most I believe was 82GB.
even if I only used like 1 - 2GB, it'd still be nice to have the piece of mind of not worrying about going over.
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on a slow month I do around 20 - 30GB. the most I believe was 82GB.
even if I only used like 1 - 2GB, it'd still be nice to have the piece of mind of not worrying about going over.
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What do you do that uses so much???
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What do you do that uses so much???
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I do a lot of mp3 streaming(256kbps). why so high?.. I mostly listen while I'm driving(which is a lot) and as I've invested over $2,000 in my speakers, amps & subs.. I damn well want it to sound good & I play it loud.
I will often times also stream at home. Usually at night when I go to bed & I always fall asleep leaving it on some spacey/dreamy music & when I wake up it's still playing ;P
Additionally, I have HBO Go so will stream tv shows/movies to.
Oh, and lastly, I tether to my laptop and will use it for both online gaming as well as downloading purchases off of Steam.
Typical month I'll use around 10GB
Pandora streaming, or I'll download new mp3's on to my library, also youtube videos. At school when I'm in a place with no free wifi then I'll use it to tether.
I hope verizon opens the unlimited back up in a couple of years, I think for a while they were just concerned with having a really slow and sluggish network which is very possible if people actually utilize the unlimited plans. Of course this could just be another way for them to milk money, but more probably is anticipation of 4G usage and the infrastructure they have to build in order to support high speed and lots of data usage.
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Typical month I'll use around 10GB
Pandora streaming, or I'll download new mp3's on to my library, also youtube videos. At school when I'm in a place with no free wifi then I'll use it to tether.
I hope verizon opens the unlimited back up in a couple of years, I think for a while they were just concerned with having a really slow and sluggish network which is very possible if people actually utilize the unlimited plans. Of course this could just be another way for them to milk money, but more probably is anticipation of 4G usage and the infrastructure they have to build in order to support high speed and lots of data usage.
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its obviously to milk money.
think about it this way.... say you get some fancy new Ferrari and are told you can only drive it 2 miles a month.
They have that ferarri. It is the FXX. You can't take it home. You can only drive it on their track days at their track. Google it.
Zytryx said:
Do people really use that much data? I have unlimited on AT&T and thinking of switching to Verizon for the Rezound or GN and getting the 4GB deal.
Even though I have unlimited I have never gone above 2GB so I know 4GB will be plenty (Besides AT&T will throttle you down between 4 and 5 gb on unlimited)
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I'm thinking about doing the same. Giving up my at&t unlimited for the 4gb deal on verizon. Crazy? Most people may think so but I dont find myself going over 4gb a month and according to the rep a few days ago at&t unlimited data customers get throttled after 2gb now. I'm just fed up with at&t bad 4g network and their poor lte coverage.
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I'm thinking about doing the same. Giving up my at&t unlimited for the 4gb deal on verizon. Crazy? Most people may think so but I dont find myself going over 4gb a month and according to the rep a few days ago at&t unlimited data customers get throttled after 2gb now. I'm just fed up with at&t bad 4g network and their poor lte coverage.
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probably a good choice, still kind of blows that you missed the unlimited plans from verizon. who knows when they'll come back, the 4GB plans are supposed to only be for a limited time so they'll probably hit back to 2GB sometime after christmas.
AT&T is garbage, and if the deal falls through then they'll be even worse off- probably with higher rates and a poorer network considering they are giving away some of their bandwidth to t-mobile if it doesn't go through.
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probably a good choice, still kind of blows that you missed the unlimited plans from verizon. who knows when they'll come back, the 4GB plans are supposed to only be for a limited time so they'll probably hit back to 2GB sometime after christmas.
AT&T is garbage, and if the deal falls through then they'll be even worse off- probably with higher rates and a poorer network considering they are giving away some of their bandwidth to t-mobile if it doesn't go through.
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So youre saying that if I get the 4gb , it'll go to 2gb at some point? Im hoping it stays at 4gb.
Also, another thing that I use quite often is data/phone simultaneously. Not sure I'll be able to do this on verizon's 3g network.
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So youre saying that if I get the 4gb , it'll go to 2gb at some point? Im hoping it stays at 4gb.
Also, another thing that I use quite often is data/phone simultaneously. Not sure I'll be able to do this on verizon's 3g network.
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Ask VZW about the 4GB (how long it lasts) .
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So youre saying that if I get the 4gb , it'll go to 2gb at some point? Im hoping it stays at 4gb.
Also, another thing that I use quite often is data/phone simultaneously. Not sure I'll be able to do this on verizon's 3g network.
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no that's not what I'm saying. If you have 4G then you'll be locked into that plan the same as everyone else who has unlimited is locked into theirs.
I'm saying if you wait 4+ months to switch, they'll almost definitely stop offering the 4GB plans and go back to the crappy 2GB plans for the same price.
I use adownloader for all my torrent downloads, its actually a nice app. But ran across a problem this morning when trying to download a 7gb file. I get a message stating android does not support downloads of files larger than 4 gb.... Is there a way around this limitation?????
it is a limitation of the fat32 sd card. Can't have files larger than 4gb. So the app is probably hardcoded to not let you download it. But I hope you aren't torrenting over LTE... that is the reason people like me are stuck with tiered plans.
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it is a limitation of the fat32 sd card. Can't have files larger than 4gb. So the app is probably hardcoded to not let you download it. But I hope you aren't torrenting over LTE... that is the reason people like me are stuck with tiered plans.
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Not to be argumentative, but no it's not. Verizon's just greedy. They're still making money hand over fist from unlimited users.
What do you need a 7gb file on your phone for anyway. And as far as the data hog thing goes whether its the main reason or not it definitely doesn't help, and yeah what can your phone possibly do with a 7gb file, unless its a 5 hour movie you are abusing your data.
I've have unlimited data and I don't think using it anyway I want to is abuse. Sucks for you if you signed up for a tiered plan lol. But the amount of data I consume isn't what this thread was posted about...
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Not to be argumentative, but no it's not. Verizon's just greedy. They're still making money hand over fist from unlimited users.
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Actually, it is. It costs roughly $5 to send a gig of data over wireless data networks when customer care, backhaul, electricity, etc are all taken into account. That means that anyone who uses over 7gb of data on their phone is costing the carrier money. That usually isn't an issue. Most people probably pay around $30 a month for data and use about a gig maybe two. So the carrier makes $25. But then there are the jerks who pull down 80gb/month on wireless ruins it for everyone because they cost the carrier $370.
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voice and texting are what the carrier makes money on. So if everyone switched to google voice and voip solutions therefore dropping to the lowest minute plans without texting, data costs would skyrocket.
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Actually, it is. It costs roughly $5 to send a gig of data over wireless data networks when customer care, backhaul, electricity, etc are all taken into account. That means that anyone who uses over 7gb of data on their phone is costing the carrier money. That usually isn't an issue. Most people probably pay around $30 a month for data and use about a gig maybe two. So the carrier makes $25. But then there are the jerks who pull down 80gb/month on wireless ruins it for everyone because they cost the carrier $370.
source: whitepages at signalresearch.com
voice and texting are what the carrier makes money on. So if everyone switched to google voice and voip solutions therefore dropping to the lowest minute plans without texting, data costs would skyrocket.
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Got a link? Genuinely curious.
But let's do the math--the average user data/month is 435 megabytes. Using your 5 dollars/GB figure, which seems totally plausible, that means that on average Verizon is making ~27.50 in profit per user, whether they're capped at 2gb or unlimited.
This is based on AT&T's figures, but apparently their remaining unlimited data group comprises a 5% that uses more than 2gb a month. That means that 95% of their users are making AT LEAST 20 dollars in profit, if the demographics for Verizon comport with AT&T's, because they use less than 2GB. (30 dollars- 2GB x 5 dollars)
That means Verizon is making money absolutely hand over fist. The average of 435mb includes my mom's iphone, which uses maybe 5 MB a month, and that jerk for tethers 80gb. The 5mb a month crowd massively outweighs the 80gb a month crowd.
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I feel like people use either 0-4gb or like 50+gb. So if the average person uses 2GB, but someone else uses 50gb, it takes the "profit" from 11 2GB users to cancel him out.
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I feel like people use either 0-4gb or like 50+gb. So if the average person uses 2GB, but someone else uses 50gb, it takes the "profit" from 11 2GB users to cancel him out.
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The average is 435 megabytes a month.
On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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Actually I was wrong, it's a bit higher now:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249532/smartphone_data_shakeup_the_end_of_unlimited.html
According to The Nielsen Company, the average per-user data consumption by U.S. smartphone customers was 606.1MB -- or about 0.59GB -- per month in the third quarter of 2011 (the most recent period for which measurements were available).
So that's for all Americans who use smartphones.
The average data use doubled in one year too... wow. So average $22 in profit on someone who uses average. But for someone who uses 50, it still takes 10 people if you are counting $25 average spent on data. At verizon we pay 30, but people on att either pay $25 or $15 so it is probably close to $25 average.
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The average data use doubled in one year too... wow. So average $22 in profit on someone who uses average. But for someone who uses 50, it still takes 10 people if you are counting $25 average spent on data. At verizon we pay 30, but people on att either pay $25 or $15 so it is probably close to $25 average.
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Yep. But remember, according to those figures only 1% of users use more than 4.5gb. It still takes 6 gigs of data for Verizon to take a loss on you. So we're already talking about a fraction of 1% that Verizon might be taking a loss on. Their pricing models are designed to maximize profit, but even with unlimited data and current usage patterns it'd be damn hard for them to lose money.
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On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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Didn't at&t already come out and say that people are using double the data they were a year ago?
But I have to agree, if the storage can't handle that big of a file, maybe better to do it on a computer anyway.
Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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You are sorta correct. I really don't care about unlimited data. 4GB is plenty for me to never need wifi. And when I do need wifi, well, my sigpic you can see that that my school's ISP is plenty fast lol. To the point, your analogy is a bit off. It would be more like getting my amount of gas limited so I couldn't drive as fast. LTE phones are like fast cars... I have one, you have one, but since some of us have our gas limited we can't drive full speed all the time even if we are capable of doing so and want to.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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I can see his point. As Verizon switches all devices over to LTE (they have said no more 3g smartphone) and the networks gets more congested, I expect them to start throttling the unlimited users.
There has already been talk of data plans becoming speed based instead of data limits the way wired internet plans are.
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You are sorta correct. I really don't care about unlimited data. 4GB is plenty for me to never need wifi. And when I do need wifi, well, my sigpic you can see that that my school's ISP is plenty fast lol. To the point, your analogy is a bit off. It would be more like getting my amount of gas limited so I couldn't drive as fast. LTE phones are like fast cars... I have one, you have one, but since some of us have our gas limited we can't drive full speed all the time even if we are capable of doing so and want to.
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Ok ill agree with yours. Been up 32 hours so the old thinker is a little slow. Haha.
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I can see his point. As Verizon switches all devices over to LTE (they have said no more 3g smartphone) and the networks gets more congested, I expect them to start throttling the unlimited users.
There has already been talk of data plans becoming speed based instead of data limits the way wired internet plans are.
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I don't think the contract says anything about being able to cap 4g speeds for those of us with unlimited data. 3g yes because it is capped at 5 regardless. Mobile broadband cards contracts for LTE list a 5GB cap on unlimited. Cellphones contracts do not. If I remember correctly.
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I don't think the contract says anything about being able to cap 4g speeds for those of us with unlimited data. 3g yes because it is capped at 5 regardless. Mobile broadband cards contracts for LTE list a 5GB cap on unlimited. Cellphones contracts do not. If I remember correctly.
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no, but all mobile contracts have fair use policies that leave a lot of gray area. I think in the next 2 years after most everyone is on lte, the data landscape will look much different.
Shoot, I still remember waiting forever for skyfire to stream video to my moto q9c...
According to T-Mobile's website, their new 4G Unlimited plan has no slow downs if you go over a set amount. So I wonder, why does MyT-Mobile page show that I have Up to 9765.6 GB of full speed data? I mean, I doubt I'll ever use nearly 10 thousand GB's of full speed data but who knows.
I saw that as well, I guess the system maybe requires some kind of integer to work with. But let's be honest who can possible use an average of 325GB per day in a 30 day time frame? Doubt our devices can dl that much per day to begin with.
I realize it's darn near impossible to do but it sure will be fun trying. Right now I have my Amaze in my desk dock and have been streaming the 9/11 memorial on http://www.ny1.com/content/pages/general/124256/ny1-live-video--9-11-anniversary-ceremony. Loving the freedom of Unlimited. Gonna get into some HBO Go after this!
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I realize it's darn near impossible to do but it sure will be fun trying. Right now I have my Amaze in my desk dock and have been streaming the 9/11 memorial on http://www.ny1.com/content/pages/general/124256/ny1-live-video--9-11-anniversary-ceremony. Loving the freedom of Unlimited. Gonna get into some HBO Go after this!
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I've been skyping and strictly using my S3 as my data connection for my laptop too, dl dumb files for no reason at all, barely capped 4GB tops in one day but I'm still pushing to see how far I can get, life is screwing it over though, lol.
Yup, its almost impossible to use all 10TB of data...unless you're downloading torrents all day, or running a high traffic server lol
Well I didn't want to start a new thread so I figured I could ask here.
I called t-mobile to switch to the new Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan, currently on the Unlimited - Premium 5GB plan, and I was told I would have to switch my rate plan. I am currently on Preferred FT 1500 NW and the retention department allowed me to keep myFaves with this plan, a while back. Now the rep told me that I would have to switch to one of the current Classic plans in order to even add the Unlimited Data plan. If that is the case my cost will go up around 100-120 a month in order to compensate for the minutes the myFaves is saving, just to switch to the truly Unlimited Data plan.
Does what this rep told me sound right? Does anyone still have an older plan still and switched to the new Unlimited Plan? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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Yup, its almost impossible to use all 10TB of data...unless you're downloading torrents all day, or running a high traffic server lol
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Actually, mathematically you should never be able to reach it. If you average 12 Mbps down, that translates to 1.5 MB per second X that by 2,592,000 seconds in a 30 day period its under 4000 GB per month. Even if you doubled that speed and were consistently using the web it would be under 8 TB of usage. Sorry, I was bored and math is my thing lol.
It probably would be wiser to switch to unlimited everything. Talk, Text and Data. $100 a month is really steep. I'm gonna go to Tmo today and see if I can make my account better. Currently I'm only paying $145 for 3 lines. My 3rd line is free till Jan 2014 because of the back to school promotion. But its only 500 talk and unlimited text. My 8yr old doesn't need data. She can connect to WiFi when shes at home.
Good job on the math. Lol
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Well I didn't want to start a new thread so I figured I could ask here.
I called t-mobile to switch to the new Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan, currently on the Unlimited - Premium 5GB plan, and I was told I would have to switch my rate plan. I am currently on Preferred FT 1500 NW and the retention department allowed me to keep myFaves with this plan, a while back. Now the rep told me that I would have to switch to one of the current Classic plans in order to even add the Unlimited Data plan. If that is the case my cost will go up around 100-120 a month in order to compensate for the minutes the myFaves is saving, just to switch to the truly Unlimited Data plan.
Does what this rep told me sound right? Does anyone still have an older plan still and switched to the new Unlimited Plan? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Actually, mathematically you should never be able to reach it. If you average 12 Mbps down, that translates to 1.5 MB per second X that by 2,592,000 seconds in a 30 day period its under 4000 GB per month. Even if you doubled that speed and were consistently using the web it would be under 8 TB of usage. Sorry, I was bored and math is my thing lol.
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Not sure about the data plan since from what I read that the classic or family plans are required or something of the sort, I'll look for a source in a bit.
Lol at the math, did most of that too, nicely put together though.
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Not sure about the data plan since from what I read that the classic or family plans are required or something of the sort, I'll look for a source in a bit.
Lol at the math, did most of that too, nicely put together though.
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Well it looks like the classic family plans are required I spoke with two different reps and they all said the same thing. Oh well.
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Lol at the math, did most of that too, nicely put together though.
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Lol Thanks =)
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I've been skyping and strictly using my S3 as my data connection for my laptop too, dl dumb files for no reason at all, barely capped 4GB tops in one day but I'm still pushing to see how far I can get, life is screwing it over though, lol.
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So you can use it to power your laptop?
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So you can use it to power your laptop?
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Power? Not quite but if you mean use it as your data connection? Yup, it's been my laptop, ipad, psvita wifi hotspot since I got the unlimited data, been skyping everyday with my girl:victory:.
dkb218 said:
According to T-Mobile's website, their new 4G Unlimited plan has no slow downs if you go over a set amount. So I wonder, why does MyT-Mobile page show that I have Up to 9765.6 GB of full speed data? I mean, I doubt I'll ever use nearly 10 thousand GB's of full speed data but who knows.
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9 Terrabytes is more data than your phone could pull down if left downloading 24/7 for a month...
It's a 'limit' in the same sense that a sign stating 'Speed Limit: Speed of Light' on the freeway would be... Yeah, it's a 'limit' number, but it's physically impossible (in the most literal sense) to get there...
So essentially it is unlimited
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9 Terrabytes is more data than your phone could pull down if left downloading 24/7 for a month...
It's a 'limit' in the same sense that a sign stating 'Speed Limit: Speed of Light' on the freeway would be... Yeah, it's a 'limit' number, but it's physically impossible (in the most literal sense) to get there...
So essentially it is unlimited
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Best response I've read all day
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9 Terrabytes is more data than your phone could pull down if left downloading 24/7 for a month...
It's a 'limit' in the same sense that a sign stating 'Speed Limit: Speed of Light' on the freeway would be... Yeah, it's a 'limit' number, but it's physically impossible (in the most literal sense) to get there...
So essentially it is unlimited
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9,765.6 Gigabytes = 10485733156454.4 bytes per month
times 8 bits/byte
83885865251635.2 bits per month
/30days/24hours/60min/60sec
32363373.94 bits/sec or ....
OVER 30.86 Megabits/sec constant for 1 full 30-day cycle!
dkb218 said:
According to T-Mobile's website, their new 4G Unlimited plan has no slow downs if you go over a set amount. So I wonder, why does MyT-Mobile page show that I have Up to 9765.6 GB of full speed data? I mean, I doubt I'll ever use nearly 10 thousand GB's of full speed data but who knows.
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Lol, when I saw this on my bill, at first i thought it was 9.XXX GB and I was ready to flip my ****. I didn't realize until googling it and reading this post that it's actually 9,XXX.XX GB... I have never used that much data in my life.... even on Comcast business. I think we're good here.
Unlimited data interrupted by RST packets about once an hour?
Does anyone else here have their data stream interrupted regularly like clockwork getting a browser message back "The connection to the server was reset...?" It happens twice an hour, on the button for me. I heard that Tmo interrupts heavy users, but if it doesn't happen to any of you, it's got to be just me. The packets don't interrupt bitcomet, and I think they don't interrupt https, but DO interrupt http. It doesn't happen when I'm using SSH with a proxy, but that is slow, as it's a $1 proxy. Well..., anyone got an idea?
Incidentally, Tmo had a great discount for a small business plan going, it was $39 for 1000 anytime mins, unlimited txt/mms, and 5gb data (or it was 2gb and they grandfathered me 5gb). At the time it was going, a year ago, but worth checking now to see what prices are, they allowed a change for data from the 5gb to unlimited for only $5, so now I pay a few cents less than $50/mo for what I already described to you. It was as simple as paying $10 to the state registrar (your state may differ), and getting my business name, then applying online at irs.gov for an EIN (employer identification number) which was emailed to me immediately.
I took the business name certificate and EIN, along with proof of my address to Tmo, and they gave me the plan without any trouble, which surprised me, because it meant the cost of my service dropped.
Good luck.
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Does anyone else here have their data stream interrupted regularly like clockwork getting a browser message back "The connection to the server was reset...?" It happens twice an hour, on the button for me. I heard that Tmo interrupts heavy users, but if it doesn't happen to any of you, it's got to be just me. The packets don't interrupt bitcomet, and I think they don't interrupt https, but DO interrupt http. It doesn't happen when I'm using SSH with a proxy, but that is slow, as it's a $1 proxy. Well..., anyone got an idea?
Incidentally, Tmo had a great discount for a small business plan going, it was $39 for 1000 anytime mins, unlimited txt/mms, and 5gb data (or it was 2gb and they grandfathered me 5gb). At the time it was going, a year ago, but worth checking now to see what prices are, they allowed a change for data from the 5gb to unlimited for only $5, so now I pay a few cents less than $50/mo for what I already described to you. It was as simple as paying $10 to the state registrar (your state may differ), and getting my business name, then applying online at irs.gov for an EIN (employer identification number) which was emailed to me immediately.
I took the business name certificate and EIN, along with proof of my address to Tmo, and they gave me the plan without any trouble, which surprised me, because it meant the cost of my service dropped.
Good luck.
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Chris Pederick's User Agent Switcher seems to be helping. It's at mozilla add-ons, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/?src=search and at Chris' website, http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/.
Just about to pre-order a One, and I'm stuck on trying to understand what 'data unlimited' means as compared to the 3GB plan. I did get grandfathered to an unlimited plan when I transitioned to my Inspire, but in the past 2 years there hasn't been a single month where I exceeded 2GB. Wondering if y'all have any advice.
Keep your grandfathered unlimited data, NO reason not to.
I'm on Premier, but when I tried to order mine, the website wouldn't give me the correct price for the phone if I kept my current voice and data plan.
I went into a store, and during the process they told me the system said unlimited plans were not allowed with this device. They called to make sure I am able to keep the unlimited data. Whoever they called annotated my account saying I could keep it, but it has to be reapplied after I get the phone (as was the case the last couple of times I upgraded).
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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HeadCracc said:
Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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Not sure exactly what you're saying here.
If I don't get throttled until after 3G, then what's to worry about? How much 'throttling' is there? How does one tell if the plan has been changed?
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Unlimited gets throttled at 3gb... If u avg 2.5 check out the mobile share plans no throttling and they go upto 50gb... if u wanna keep unlimited don't order online cuz they'll swap ur data pkg
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If I recall, LTE unlimited data plan cap is 5GB.
yep. If your on att, always keep your unlimited. Only way to lose it is if they accidentally upgrade your data plan to 3gb or whatever data, or move you to the mobile share plan.
BillTheCat said:
Not sure exactly what you're saying here.
If I don't get throttled until after 3G, then what's to worry about? How much 'throttling' is there? How does one tell if the plan has been changed?
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You should be able to keep your data plan regardless of how you order, but as someone else mentioned, the "unlimited" data plan is only unlimited until you are throttled at the 3 gig mark (I do believe its 5 gig for LTE users), at which point you drop to 2G speeds (and let me tell you, 2G is not fun) for the remainder of your billing period. If the Premiere site isn't letting you keep the plan, then you should be able to call and place the same order over the phone with a rep, and the rep should be able to retain your data plan. Otherwise, if you remove the data plan, even accidentally, you cannot get it back, so be very careful about what you click.
AT&T changed the specifics of the "unlimited" plan a while ago without changing the actual name of the plan, to keep people happy. So the "unlimited" and "3GB" data plans are essentially similar now.
Im with O2 Uk
We have two phones through my wife's contract.
On my SGS II I had unlimited data. I never realized just how much I used it until a O2 rep called to "let us know" I had used about 6 gig of data that month. Wanted to know what it was on and that all was ok, LOL
Funnily 4 months before my upgrade they called again to say they will not be continuing the Unlimited option as they deemed 1-2 gig to be enough.
And trust me, you don't miss it till its gone! Im now watching every darn kb pass in fear of it running out, for me 1-2-3 GB is nothing.
The frustrating thing is, they wont offer me a plan with more than 2 gb a month??...
So Im now having to look in to getting a external Bluetooth sim thing (tbh, cant remember what they're called, which isn't helping me find the one im after.. )
I'm now jealous of a friend that has kept his unlimited plan for the past 5 or so years.... (was a special offer, bet they didn't see him keeping it this long lol) He's even forfeited his phone upgrades to keep the contract, smart guy.
My advice, Never give up your unlimited mobile internet.
Oh, and just before all you haters start hating, I don't tether and I don't torrent on my plan :angel: , I do alot of streaming :good:
snowblind2142 said:
We have two phones through my wife's contract.
On my SGS II I had unlimited data. I never realized just how much I used it until a O2 rep called to "let us know" I had used about 6 gig of data that month. Wanted to know what it was on and that all was ok, LOL
Funnily 4 months before my upgrade they called again to say they will not be continuing the Unlimited option as they deemed 1-2 gig to be enough.
And trust me, you don't miss it till its gone! Im now watching every darn kb pass in fear of it running out, for me 1-2-3 GB is nothing.
The frustrating thing is, they wont offer me a plan with more than 2 gb a month??...
So Im now having to look in to getting a external Bluetooth sim thing (tbh, cant remember what they're called, which isn't helping me find the one im after.. )
I'm now jealous of a friend that has kept his unlimited plan for the past 5 or so years.... (was a special offer, bet they didn't see him keeping it this long lol) He's even forfeited his phone upgrades to keep the contract, smart guy.
My advice, Never give up your unlimited mobile internet.
Oh, and just before all you haters start hating, I don't tether and I don't torrent on my plan :angel: , I do alot of streaming :good:
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You clearly know nothing of the people in the US that run 90-150 gigs per month off of their unlimited LTE data plans.
I used to have unlimited when I had a BlackBerry years ago but when I switched to the Samsung Captivate I had to change the data plan and I lost it. I've had 2 a month ever since and I always have to monitor my data with 3g watchdog. Thinking about changing it to 3 GB when I pre-order the HTC one since it's only $5 more a month.
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Didn't want to take a chance of loosing my grandfathered unlimited data plan so I went to a corporate store yesterday and placed the order there for upgrade of phone only. They also included the media link which was out of stock yesterday afternoon but was restocked later in the evening online.
Keep the unlimited. I use up a lot of data on Plex app and DirecTV alone.
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You should be able to keep your data plan regardless of how you order... AT&T changed the specifics of the "unlimited" plan a while ago without changing the actual name of the plan, to keep people happy. So the "unlimited" and "3GB" data plans are essentially similar now.
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Ok, so just to be sure I'm on the same page, when I upgraded, I selected the box which said this, and my current (post-upgrade) services show:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I presme that's the right one, yes?
I am in the same position. I have the unlimited plan and I'm thinking about getting the HTC One.
I will not give up my plan because I regularly go over 3gb. I received the text message threatening to throttle my speed after 3gb but never really noticed the difference after 3gb.
I remember when I was upgrading to the iphone 4 back in 2010 I had the choice of keeping unlimited data or drop to 2GB and save $5 a month. At the time I was not even close to 2gb so I dropped down to save some $$.
Fast forward to 2013.
I do about 6GB a month. Without even trying. LTE was a game changer.
I regret giving up my unlimited data.. They even raised the throttling to 5GB.
I ordered online but before doing so I talked to representatives. They told me if I ordered it but called them before activation they can make sure that you don't lose the unlimited data. I have backup in the form of a chat online with their representative just in case they try to not honor their word.
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Ok, so just to be sure I'm on the same page, when I upgraded, I selected the box which said this, and my current (post-upgrade) services show:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I presme that's the right one, yes?
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Looks right to me.
At&T throttle?
ATT has threatened to throttle my unlimited every month for the past year or two. I always get the same two messages and it never happens. At least not that I can tell. I'm sure they do throttle, but it's never actually happened to me. I run speedtest pretty regularly and Netflix never has any trouble.
Never let them take away your unlimited data. They will have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
I called Verizon and said I was looking at switching because ATT had the double the Data deal going and I was tired of paying for less. I buy the 10mb plan, had service for 13 months. They have me a customer loyalty plan which gives me 16mb of data for the same price I was paying for my 10. Just letting you know. If this is public knowledge , sorry for saying your time
They also are not throttling unlimited LTE users anymore and doubled the 20GB plans and higher. I called today and got bumped to 40GB.
Not happy that they cut back on throttling but at 40GB, that's more then I'll need since them most I have ever used was 18GB and about 8GB with my other lines. I cut back for a little while but it looks like I can use more again.
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RHChan84 said:
They also are not throttling unlimited LTE users anymore and doubled the 20GB plans and higher. I called today and got bumped to 40GB.
Not happy that they cut back on throttling but at 40GB, that's more then I'll need since them most I have ever used was 18GB and about 8GB with my other lines. I cut back for a little while but it looks like I can use more again.
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Ricky?
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Ricky?
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Yes it is Rich.
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big70tom said:
I called Verizon and said I was looking at switching because ATT had the double the Data deal going and I was tired of paying for less. I buy the 10mb plan, had service for 13 months. They have me a customer loyalty plan which gives me 16mb of data for the same price I was paying for my 10. Just letting you know. If this is public knowledge , sorry for saying your time
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What kind of plan are you on? Contract, Edge, Family?
I just called. They told me since I was on 10GB I couldn't get double data (AT&T doesn't offer double data on 10GB either) but that I could upgrade to the 12GB plan and get an addition 3GB for a total of 15GB.
Bill used to be ~$180 for 2 lines, 4-6Gb shared (depending how much music I streamed). I called to cancel, told 'em I was lookin' at T-Mobile. They knocked my payments down to $107 for 12 months and $140 for the next 12. I's happy. :cyclops:
EDIT: They also cut me a deal on cancelling my Jetpack.
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Bill used to be ~$180 for 2 lines, 4-6Gb shared (depending how much music I streamed). I called to cancel, told 'em I was lookin' at T-Mobile. They knocked my payments down to $107 for 12 months and $140 for the next 12. I's happy. :cyclops:
EDIT: They also cut me a deal on cancelling my Jetpack.
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We have two LG G3's 10GB Data Everything Plan 113 + Tax a month with my employer discount. No Contract...
I have not been in a contract since the HTC T-Bolt. LOL
Bought the LG's outright (350 Each NIB) and they gave me the Edge discount per line.
Also got two Free LG G3 Battery and Battery Charging Cradles on there way.
Not Bad.
tl;dr everyone on a tiered data plan is getting gouged. It costs Verizon next to nothing to transmit the data (not sure of the exact cost). The minute they force us off unlimited data is the minute I leave for good! Hopefully what worked for OP works for everyone else as well!
I lost unlimited data and do not regret it one bit. I was paying $360ish for 4 lines. I had unlimited and the others had 2GB and in total we use about 24GB so I had to connect to WiFi a bit more when I'm at home. I went with the 20GB plan and since using WiFi, I'm down to a total of 16ish GB. Now I'm paying $300ish.
Well now they doubled bit I still use WiFi at home for better reception and I'm still hovering around the 18GB. Yes I lost unlimited but just because I had unlimited didn't mean i was using it a lot. I'm at 40GB and that's double more then what I have and I don't go near it at all. Even with tethering. I'm also watching more Netflix and Amazon Prime and I can see myself going up to 30ish if I try but I stream music all day.
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RHChan84 said:
I lost unlimited data and do not regret it one bit. I was paying $360ish for 4 lines. I had unlimited and the others had 2GB and in total we use about 24GB so I had to connect to WiFi a bit more when I'm at home. I went with the 20GB plan and since using WiFi, I'm down to a total of 16ish GB. Now I'm paying $300ish.
Well now they doubled bit I still use WiFi at home for better reception and I'm still hovering around the 18GB. Yes I lost unlimited but just because I had unlimited didn't mean i was using it a lot. I'm at 40GB and that's double more then what I have and I don't go near it at all. Even with tethering. I'm also watching more Netflix and Amazon Prime and I can see myself going up to 30ish if I try but I stream music all day.
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Yea I can care less about unlimited data anymore... I just don't ever want to be in a contract. I can walk whenever...
40 for $150. Woohooo
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If your in the city, any really ... Chicago New York ect you got so many WiFi hotspots... I just recently moved into the city from the suburbs and in the suburbs having unlimited data was a godsend but here in the city don't really matter. I still do enjoy the fact that I have unlimited data for the purpose of sticking it to the man as they say
Verizon customer still got the grandfathered in unlimited data