Hey everyone,
Just got the note 3 today and it's pretty dope!!!! I did not take the OTA update to kk 4.4.2, which is what I assume it wants to do. I'm on 4.3 with the MI5 baseband. Is there Knox on this bootloader that I have to worry about? Is it easier rooting with what I have or easier on 4.4.2? Thanks in advance for any advice
Either one you can auto root with Chainfires method which trips knox, you can also root with Kingo which doesn't trip knox. But as soon as you flash a recovery it will. Congrats on the new phone.
mta1981 said:
Hey everyone,
Just got the note 3 today and it's pretty dope!!!! I did not take the OTA update to kk 4.4.2, which is what I assume it wants to do. I'm on 4.3 with the MI5 baseband. Is there Knox on this bootloader that I have to worry about? Is it easier rooting with what I have or easier on 4.4.2? Thanks in advance for any advice
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Take the update and then decide if you wish to root. That bootloader and version of Jellybean in 5 months old. Where did you buy this phone? You have 3 updates to get to KitKat, so it's going to be awhile.
I would suggest going straight to KitKat via one of the One-click or tar files in the dev forum, but I strongly suggest that you read before making the choice.
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micmars said:
Take the update and then decide if you wish to root. That bootloader and version of Jellybean in 5 months old. Where did you buy this phone? You have 3 updates to get to KitKat, so it's going to be awhile.
I would suggest going straight to KitKat via one of the One-click or tar files in the dev forum, but I strongly suggest that you read before making the choice.
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I got it at the Sprint store, it was their last one. Than ks for the advice!
mta1981 said:
I got it at the Sprint store, it was their last one. Than ks for the advice!
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No problem, and thanks for answering. I really do hope you enjoy your time here on the forums.
[Side notes about the build number being MI3, I don't know if that bodes bad for Sammy or not, but that is pretty stale inventory. Kind of boggles the mind when there have been many on these threads whom have been bi+ch slapped by Sprint's recent rapacious turn IN servicing existing customers, waiting weeks for refurbished devices, when they've more than likely got older unboxed phones sitting in inventory collecting dust. That would kind of irk the crap our of me.]
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micmars said:
Take the update and then decide if you wish to root. That bootloader and version of Jellybean in 5 months old. Where did you buy this phone? You have 3 updates to get to KitKat, so it's going to be awhile.
I would suggest going straight to KitKat via one of the One-click or tar files in the dev forum, but I strongly suggest that you read before making the choice.
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micmars said:
No problem, and thanks for answering. I really do hope you enjoy your time here on the forums.
[Side notes about the build number being MI3, I don't know if that bodes bad for Sammy or not, but that is pretty stale inventory. Kind of boggles the mind when there have been many on these threads whom have been bi+ch slapped by Sprint's recent rapacious turn IN servicing existing customers, waiting weeks for refurbished devices, when they've more than likely got older unboxed phones sitting in inventory collecting dust. That would kind of irk the crap our of me.]
No prob! And thanks, I certainly will, xda is awesome! Spent plenty of time of here for my S3 and N7. Doesn't seem like Sprint cares or they dont want to give out new phones unless theyre making that dollar.
Correct me if im wrong but you cant flash a custom rom w/o a custom recovery right? I want to root so I can get a debloated rom whether it'd be stock debloated or CM but it seems tripping knox is inevitable.
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and that was weird how that quoted you
mta1981 said:
No prob! And thanks, I certainly will, xda is awesome! Spent plenty of time of here for my S3 and N7. Doesn't seem like Sprint cares or they dont want to give out new phones unless theyre making that dollar.
Correct me if im wrong but you cant flash a custom rom w/o a custom recovery right? I want to root so I can get a debloated rom whether it'd be stock debloated or CM but it seems tripping knox is inevitable.
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This is why I suggested that you either take the OTA updates on step sequence, or flash a one-click, and possibly avoid rooting if you can. You need to read, take counsel of patience, and choose for you. Going from TouchWiz to AOSP is not swift, requires time and care. Most importantly, do nothing in hot haste that which you would not do by taking time.
There is no single good reason not to wait if you are in the least undecided or unclear about the means or your desired outcome.
You'll be far happier in the long term. I'd avoid AOSP if this is your first time, but even here, that's my opinion.
Good luck.
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and that was weird how that quoted you
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Fixed it for you.
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Well I tried 4 times with kingo root. usb debugging is checked and the drivers are fine. I tried searching for problems using kingo on MI5, sm-900p, and i got nothing. I just want to root to use titanium backup and freeze all the bloatware. or flash a kit kat rom with it all removed. Micmars, can you gain root by flashing one of those tar files you speak of with odin? or do I have to take the OTA update and then chainfires method? Ive been reading all I can for the past day and I feel like im stuck on the forums in bootloop!
Bump anybody?
mta1981 said:
Well I tried 4 times with kingo root. usb debugging is checked and the drivers are fine. I tried searching for problems using kingo on MI5, sm-900p, and i got nothing. I just want to root to use titanium backup and freeze all the bloatware. or flash a kit kat rom with it all removed. Micmars, can you gain root by flashing one of those tar files you speak of with odin? or do I have to take the OTA update and then chainfires method? Ive been reading all I can for the past day and I feel like im stuck on the forums in bootloop!
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If your not worried about your knox being tripped just use Chainfire's it's easy, download the correct version put it in the Pda slot in Odin flash and you are rooted. It's just about easy as it gets. Then download Rom manager or Goo manager and install one of the recoveries. Then you can flash what ever you like or debloat what you are running.
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Hello again all, I just have a few questions about rooting my sprint gn2 before i get started. I have found several instructional guides through xda (thanks to all that post them would be lost without ya!) however i am concerned because i am running the new updated version that some of these methods may cause me some issues. I suppose my question is most of these guides were made quite some time ago, and this update has only been around a few months now, is it safe to follow for example this guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zF6x1MURM&hd=1&list=SPwCVKEYxr_z7FBQYT32dbYw_kdSJmSDH2Do I need to revert back to a prior update somehow? I have searched for a few hours now and there does not seem to be much information on rooting the device after the latest update. Looking forward to running custom roms thanks for the help.
PS if there is anything you think i should know before starting feel free to chime in i will definitely send a thanks your way!
PSS I see that 4.3 locks down the bootloader completely.... this is bull****...... Anyone know whether the phone i get through insurance when i "break" my phone would come loaded with 4.3 as well?
Ryanman1321 said:
Hello again all, I just have a few questions about rooting my sprint gn2 before i get started. I have found several instructional guides through xda (thanks to all that post them would be lost without ya!) however i am concerned because i am running the new updated version that some of these methods may cause me some issues. I suppose my question is most of these guides were made quite some time ago, and this update has only been around a few months now, is it safe to follow for example this guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zF6x1MURM&hd=1&list=SPwCVKEYxr_z7FBQYT32dbYw_kdSJmSDH2Do I need to revert back to a prior update somehow? I have searched for a few hours now and there does not seem to be much information on rooting the device after the latest update. Looking forward to running custom roms thanks for the help.
PS if there is anything you think i should know before starting feel free to chime in i will definitely send a thanks your way!
PSS I see that 4.3 locks down the bootloader completely.... this is bull****...... Anyone know whether the phone i get through insurance when i "break" my phone would come loaded with 4.3 as well?
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You should check the sprint forums and maybe this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591523.
Edit: I'm not sure all about kingo so I can't give any suggestions.
Thank you, I had read about kingoroot and am sure that is the route i will be taking (as it is my only choice) however would i still be able to backup using twrp? will i still be able to flash custom roms? these are really the only two things i care for doing.. and running root only apps like titanium backup but that is a given. Thanked for your help btw.
Cheers
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Ryanman1321 said:
Thank you, I had read about kingoroot and am sure that is the route i will be taking (as it is my only choice) however would i still be able to backup using twrp? will i still be able to flash custom roms? these are really the only two things i care for doing.. and running root only apps like titanium backup but that is a given. Thanked for your help btw.
Cheers
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That I'm not sure. You would no longer have unlocked bootloader and I always thought the two ways to have custom recovery were if bootloader was unlocked or via a safestrap method. You would have root so I'd check and see if recoveries exist for sprint note ii after this root method of 4.3
I believe you would be unable to flash a new rom/kernel as they require a custom recovery to do so, and with out a unlocked boot loader you wouldn't be able to get a custom recovery.
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MunkinDrunky said:
You should check the sprint forums and maybe this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2591523.
Edit: I'm not sure all about kingo so I can't give any suggestions.
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+1... go to the Sprint forum for the best answer. Each carrier's version on the phone is slightly different.
trollishtrucker said:
I believe you would be unable to flash a new rom/kernel as they require a custom recovery to do so, and with out a unlocked boot loader you wouldn't be able to get a custom recovery.
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I quote what somebody said: "u will not be able to change bootloader but will be able change ROMs just fine)
Smack that thanks button if I helped!
Note 2 LTE powered by Illusion ROM and Plasma Kernel.
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Free your mind, screw the carrier updates, they're so show. Root, and update your phone when you want to! I'm running 4.4.2, and loving it!
Big Mike's Lil R2D2 running CM KitKat/Devil
Good afternoon,
I'm wondering if there is a Root update available for KitKat yet? I just purchased a Note 3 and updated it to 4.4.2 (without thinking about it) and noticed that because it's only been out for less than a month it may not have available root files yet? Is that true? I've seen that there are several threads marked if you had a rooted 4.3 and want to flash a rooted 4.4.2 onto your device. But, none for a device with factory 4.4.2 already on it? Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? Any help to find and support is appreciated.
marshot said:
Good afternoon,
I'm wondering if there is a Root update available for KitKat yet? I just purchased a Note 3 and updated it to 4.4.2 (without thinking about it) and noticed that because it's only been out for less than a month it may not have available root files yet? Is that true? I've seen that there are several threads marked if you had a rooted 4.3 and want to flash a rooted 4.4.2 onto your device. But, none for a device with factory 4.4.2 already on it? Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? Any help to find and support is appreciated.
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I was just about to ask the same thing...
There is no way yet. Kingo says they are working on it but I got no response when I asked them for a status update.
I'm all confused too, I'm trying to root because I want the tether option, my phones still on 4.3 though I was about to update before I read this... so then if we want Kit Kat what do we do after we root on 4.3?
There's root methods out there for Kitkat I personally used chain fire's method which will trip Knox. If you are trying to preserve your Samsung warranty and not trip Knox then no.
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Rooted mine,stock kit kat,took update night I bought phone, used chainfires auto root, I could care less about tripping Knox though.
sent from my kit kat killed note 3
marshot said:
Good afternoon,
I'm wondering if there is a Root update available for KitKat yet? I just purchased a Note 3 and updated it to 4.4.2 (without thinking about it) and noticed that because it's only been out for less than a month it may not have available root files yet? Is that true? I've seen that there are several threads marked if you had a rooted 4.3 and want to flash a rooted 4.4.2 onto your device. But, none for a device with factory 4.4.2 already on it? Maybe I'm not looking in the right place? Any help to find and support is appreciated.
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Hello Dear,
i have also note 3 sprint and i did rooted...
how to ?
first you have to download cf auto root file of N9005 not N900P
set your phone on download mode and root with odin.. 110% tested and working fine
marioca said:
I'm all confused too, I'm trying to root because I want the tether option, my phones still on 4.3 though I was about to update before I read this... so then if we want Kit Kat what do we do after we root on 4.3?
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If you are currently on 4.3 you can get to Kit Kat rooted by following the direction posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658315. Make sure to thank the OP (optimummind) in that thread.
Also, if you are rooting only to get WiFi tether, there are a few people who claim WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso ($1.95) is the best option available for KitKat. Read more here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50826678&highlight=tether#post50826678. The previous free mod no longer works on Kit Kat. Well that is my understanding anyway. I was rooted on 4.3 with WiFi Tether and am now rooted on 4.4 with no WiFi Tether. I hope this helps.
tujitsu56 said:
If you are currently on 4.3 you can get to Kit Kat rooted by following the direction posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658315. Make sure to thank the OP (optimummind) in that thread.
Also, if you are rooting only to get WiFi tether, there are a few people who claim WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso ($1.95) is the best option available for KitKat. Read more here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50826678&highlight=tether#post50826678. The previous free mod no longer works on Kit Kat. Well that is my understanding anyway. I was rooted on 4.3 with WiFi Tether and am now rooted on 4.4 with no WiFi Tether. I hope this helps.
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That method has inherent issues that have yet to be redressed. I'd highly recommend understanding the downside before using it.
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micmars said:
That method has inherent issues that have yet to be redressed. I'd highly recommend understanding the downside before using it.
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Well Im not sure how knox triggering would affect me since Im paying Sprints full equipment protection. Ive taken a bricked evo3d before and they had no idea what was wrong they told me it must be the battery they tried diff batterys and chargers to rry and turn it on and they just replaced it since they couldnt fix it
marioca said:
Well Im not sure how knox triggering would affect me since Im paying Sprints full equipment protection. Ive taken a bricked evo3d before and they had no idea what was wrong they told me it must be the battery they tried diff batterys and chargers to rry and turn it on and they just replaced it since they couldnt fix it
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Do you want to be on KitKat and have a WiFi tethering option, and are not concerned about Knox? If yes, your route is swift and certain.
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micmars said:
Do you want to be on KitKat and have a WiFi tethering option, and are not concerned about Knox? If yes, your route is swift and certain.
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I do want KitKat and I do want to be able to Tether.. thats how it started with past phones next thing you know I was flashing roms and kernels lol, so whats the best way to go about it? Take ota then root?
tujitsu56 said:
If you are currently on 4.3 you can get to Kit Kat rooted by following the direction posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658315. Make sure to thank the OP (optimummind) in that thread.
Also, if you are rooting only to get WiFi tether, there are a few people who claim WiFi Tether Router by Fabio Grasso ($1.95) is the best option available for KitKat. Read more here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50826678&highlight=tether#post50826678. The previous free mod no longer works on Kit Kat. Well that is my understanding anyway. I was rooted on 4.3 with WiFi Tether and am now rooted on 4.4 with no WiFi Tether. I hope this helps.
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I can vouch for this. This definitely has enabled me to use WiFi tether without issue so far. I also have to say there is a good amount of WiFi AP customization for the app when configuring sprint note 3 to act as a AP. It is fast and is working for 4.4.2.
marioca said:
I do want KitKat and I do want to be able to Tether.. thats how it started with past phones next thing you know I was flashing roms and kernels lol, so whats the best way to go about it? Take ota then root?
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Then flash the one-click or tar file for NAB, install recovery, root your device, flash the stockish DeOdex rom, them download the WiFi Tether hack mod (it's DeOdex) from Josh's K3 site, and you'll be set.
If you need guidance, just ask.
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micmars said:
Then flash the one-click or tar file for NAB, install recovery, root your device, flash the stockish DeOdex rom, them download the WiFi Tether hack mod (it's DeOdex) from Josh's K3 site, and you'll be set.
If you need guidance, just ask.
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So where can we find the one click and i am also on kit kat 4.4.2 and really dont give 2 turds about trippin knox. Any help would be great
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SGTSTEW75 said:
So where can we find the one click and i am also on kit kat 4.4.2 and really dont give 2 turds about trippin knox. Any help would be great
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How about 3 turds for ya...
Head to the dev forum,
One-click here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50530254
[ROM][ODIN] SM-N900P NAB (NAB Modem/Kernel/Bootloader/ROM - Full Restore - Unrooted)
TWRP here,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ptl8dyomprxxn0l/openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-hltespr-4.4.img.tar
Root here,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbtuggkhqknm2ik/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
You can stay stock rooted if you like, or go grab the DeOdex rom from freeza's thread.
One-click first (PC executable file), then TWRP (PC Odin), then root (goes on your phone, flash from recovery).
Good luck!
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Thanks man lol
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micmars said:
How about 3 turds for ya...
Head to the dev forum,
One-click here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50530254
[ROM][ODIN] SM-N900P NAB (NAB Modem/Kernel/Bootloader/ROM - Full Restore - Unrooted)
TWRP here,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ptl8dyomprxxn0l/openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-hltespr-4.4.img.tar
Root here,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lbtuggkhqknm2ik/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
You can stay stock rooted if you like, or go grab the DeOdex rom from freeza's thread.
One-click first (PC executable file), then TWRP (PC Odin), then root (goes on your phone, flash from recovery).
Good luck!
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You mind if I pm you?
I'm pretty sure my phone is also a time machine...here's why, and please clear this up for me. I have tried googling this to find out how I ended up with such a special Super Galaxy S4. I got my Verizon S4 back in April last year and have been rooted ever since it was possible...so, in other words I have one of the original MDK builds. Why am I always reading about people freaking out because of 'accidentally' upgrading their firmware on these builds...hang on, let me continue. I have flashed a ROM on my phone about 131 times, and flashed maybe 2 or 3 radios...after doing so, my baseband and build numbers would change pretty regularly... to ME7, MK2, and everything in between. I have absolutely no trouble flashing whatever I want for the most part, and can always go back to MDK...why is this? I have lots of theories but they all revolve around me being awesome...and I'm sure you'd rather not hear them. Can anyone explain this?
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I'm pretty sure my phone is also a time machine...here's why, and please clear this up for me. I have tried googling this to find out how I ended up with such a special Super Galaxy S4. I got my Verizon S4 back in April last year and have been rooted ever since it was possible...so, in other words I have one of the original MDK builds. Why am I always reading about people freaking out because of 'accidentally' upgrading their firmware on these builds...hang on, let me continue. I have flashed a ROM on my phone about 131 times, and flashed maybe 2 or 3 radios...after doing so, my baseband and build numbers would change pretty regularly... to ME7, MK2, and everything in between. I have absolutely no trouble flashing whatever I want for the most part, and can always go back to MDK...why is this? I have lots of theories but they all revolve around me being awesome...and I'm sure you'd rather not hear them. Can anyone explain this?
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Well I think your referring to flashing custom ROMs that are " upgraded" past MDK. You can obviously do that without issue. You can also flash any modem you want ( baseband ).
But what people are referring to when they say do NOT update an MDK phone is either an OTA Update directly from Verizon... Or using Odin to flash stock firmware beyond MDK.
If you do that your bootloaders going to lose the Loki Exploit and bye bye custom recovery... Follow me??
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Grab this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
Your bootloaders going to be MDK
And your radio will be whatever one you last flashed. And depending on what ROM you're running, in your about phone it MAY show you a different build other than MDK. That's just the build the Dev based the ROM off of.
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Like the poster above said, flashing Modems/Radios will change what's shown as your "baseband" in about phone, but won't affect your MDK bootloader. So your bootloader version was never upgraded/downgraded.
phew!
Ah...so it's not all about me. Thanks for the thoroughly explained answers from both of u guys. That really clears things up. And glad to know about the modem being OK to flash/upgrade. Well, I am EXTREMELY lucky- seeing how I tried an OTA update last week after having to flash a retail image to my S4 with Odin (soft brick)...because the OTA update failed! I will NEVER try that again!! Ha. Thanks for the info!
calebcabob said:
Ah...so it's not all about me. Thanks for the thoroughly explained answers from both of u guys. That really clears things up. And glad to know about the modem being OK to flash/upgrade. Well, I am EXTREMELY lucky- seeing how I tried an OTA update last week after having to flash a retail image to my S4 with Odin (soft brick)...because the OTA update failed! I will NEVER try that again!! Ha. Thanks for the info!
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Definitely don't update via OTA or use anything in Odin other than MDK.!!!
After you root your phone use Titanium Backup and freeze "SDM " and "FWUpgrade" then make a backup in whatever recovery you're using.
Those two things being frozen ( I think SDM is good enough ) will stop any OTA possibility. Although being rooted and whatever else you may have done should be enough to stop it. No need to risk it lol
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Mistertac said:
Definitely don't update via OTA or use anything in Odin other than MDK.!!!
After you root your phone use Titanium Backup and freeze "SDM " and "FWUpgrade" then make a backup in whatever recovery you're using.
Those two things being frozen ( I think SDM is good enough ) will stop any OTA possibility. Although being rooted and whatever else you may have done should be enough to stop it. No need to risk it lol
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Hmm...I searched Titanium for SDM and anything with FW (FWUpgrade) in it, i dont see anything there. I tried just browsing too. Maybe BoneStock v2.1 (VZW, TW, 4.3) is built without those files already? I'd like to do what you're recommending though, that makes so much sense. I found "ConfigUpdater" but, that's probably not what I want, right?
calebcabob said:
Hmm...I searched Titanium for SDM and anything with FW (FWUpgrade) in it, i dont see anything there. I tried just browsing too. Maybe BoneStock v2.1 (VZW, TW, 4.3) is built without those files already? I'd like to do what you're recommending though, that makes so much sense. I found "ConfigUpdater" but, that's probably not what I want, right?
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I would imagine @andybones removed the OTA files from his rom.
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Yea I was referring to if you were on stock MDK ... The devs most certainly remove all that junk. My bad for not making myself clear.. Thanks Josh
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calebcabob said:
I'm pretty sure my phone is also a time machine...here's why, and please clear this up for me. I have tried googling this to find out how I ended up with such a special Super Galaxy S4. I got my Verizon S4 back in April last year and have been rooted ever since it was possible...so, in other words I have one of the original MDK builds. Why am I always reading about people freaking out because of 'accidentally' upgrading their firmware on these builds...hang on, let me continue. I have flashed a ROM on my phone about 131 times, and flashed maybe 2 or 3 radios...after doing so, my baseband and build numbers would change pretty regularly... to ME7, MK2, and everything in between. I have absolutely no trouble flashing whatever I want for the most part, and can always go back to MDK...why is this? I have lots of theories but they all revolve around me being awesome...and I'm sure you'd rather not hear them. Can anyone explain this?
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There is no way to go back but if you are looking to update to 4.4.2 before the release let me know because I just updated!!! I will send screenshots upon request.
jake.99x3 said:
There is no way to go back but if you are looking to update to 4.4.2 before the release let me know because I just updated!!! I will send screenshots upon request.
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Did u read that post lol
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I rooted my stock s4 using saferoot then flashed a kitkat 4.4.2 rom. When the new rom booted up i had lost root. I have since maxed out my binary counter trying to get back to 4.3 mk2 i think? which is what my phone came with. Now im stuck with this rom i dont want, i cant seem to root it using saferoot or motochopper. All this and im getting the yellow triangle which i cant use triangle away on because i dont have root. I used odin to flash the roms, ive tried different ones that were 4.3 but odin keeps failing i think because of my binary counter. Is there a way to reset the counter without root??
Armyeclipse said:
I rooted my stock s4 using saferoot then flashed a kitkat 4.4.2 rom. When the new rom booted up i had lost root. I have since maxed out my binary counter trying to get back to 4.3 mk2 i think? which is what my phone came with. Now im stuck with this rom i dont want, i cant seem to root it using saferoot or motochopper. All this and im getting the yellow triangle which i cant use triangle away on because i dont have root. I used odin to flash the roms, ive tried 10 different ones that were 4.3 but odin keeps failing i think because of my binary counter. Is there to reset the counter without root??
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Well since you flashed some version of 4.4.2 in Odin of course trying to put 4.3 back on won't work without jumping through some hoops. Check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
You should also check this one out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Not having all your exact steps and what led you to hear doesn't help either. Try to be as detailed as possible.. Reading your post again I'm confused.. Is your phone working right now.. As In booting into Android or is it a brick??
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Armyeclipse said:
I rooted my stock s4 using saferoot then flashed a kitkat 4.4.2 rom. When the new rom booted up i had lost root. I have since maxed out my binary counter trying to get back to 4.3 mk2 i think? which is what my phone came with. Now im stuck with this rom i dont want, i cant seem to root it using saferoot or motochopper. All this and im getting the yellow triangle which i cant use triangle away on because i dont have root. I used odin to flash the roms, ive tried 10 different ones that were 4.3 but odin keeps failing i think because of my binary counter. Is there to reset the counter without root??
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There aren't any 4.4 roms that you can flash outside of a leaked one and you can only do that doing specific steps unless you had a mdk phone or a dev phone....not sure what you did bit sounds like you have messed up. .
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decaturbob said:
There aren't any 4.4 roms that you can flash outside of a leaked one and you can only do that doing specific steps unless you had a mdk phone or a dev phone....not sure what you did bit sounds like you have messed up. .
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Yea well there are Odin files of 4.4 around for our phone and certainly even stock firmware for other variants so... like you said though, sounds messed up
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Not to be a d***...but if people would read even one of the 50+ what not to do ops on here there wouldn't be 10+ per day people posting about how they f***** up their s4 and asking people who are trying to further development how to fix their new paperweight...also people who brick devices constantly due to not reading are the sole reason secured bootloaders exist...
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Not to be a d***...but if people would read even one of the 50+ what not to do ops on here there wouldn't be 10+ per day people posting about how they f***** up their s4 and asking people who are trying to further development how to fix their new paperweight...also people who brick devices constantly due to not reading are the sole reason secured bootloaders exist...
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only will get worse as 4.4 takes over.......
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Not to be a d***...but if people would read even one of the 50+ what not to do ops on here there wouldn't be 10+ per day people posting about how they f***** up their s4 and asking people who are trying to further development how to fix their new paperweight...also people who brick devices constantly due to not reading are the sole reason secured bootloaders exist...
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My phone works fine, its just using a 3.4.0 kernel with some KOT49H.i545VRUFNC2 build that i dont want. Last time I rooted was on my Droid X, so excuse me if i am a little rusty.
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Well since you flashed some version of 4.4.2 in Odin of course trying to put 4.3 back on won't work without jumping through some hoops. Check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726868
You should also check this one out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606501
Not having all your exact steps and what led you to hear doesn't help either. Try to be as detailed as possible.. Reading your post again I'm confused.. Is your phone working right now.. As In booting into Android or is it a brick??
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My phone works fine now. here is my kernel and build info now, on the 4.4.2
Kernel: 3.4.0 [email protected]#1 tue mar 11 20:52:21 KST 2014
Build # KOT 49H.I545VRUFNC2
What i did was simply rooted using saferoot, then i used odin 3.07 to flash a kitkat rom for sch I545. Rebooted and when it came on I noticed i didnt have root access so i wanted to go back to stock. I downloaded a stock 4.3 and odin would fail at the FAIL AUTH part, thus bricking my phone. I then reflashed the 4.4.2 rom and it installed. Ive tried different 4.3 roms, even with a PIT file and it still fails. Like i said it works fine, i would just like to go back to stock 4.3. I think my main problem is that I cant seem to get rooted again and i dont know why. Thanks for helping a n00b!
Armyeclipse said:
My phone works fine, its just using a 3.4.0 kernel with some KOT49H.i545VRUFNC2 build that i dont want. Last time I rooted was on my Droid X, so excuse me if i am a little rusty.
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Hey we weren't trying to be jerks.. Just give as many details as you can which led you To here and I'm sure one of us can help.
There's just a lot of people who come on here daily that if they read up a little more they wouldn't be in a tight spot.
If your phone is working fine on the NC2 build but you just rather MK2... then the first link I gave you is a method to downgrade I believe. Now I haven't done it myself but looking at it it's not for the faint of heart and you need to be good with Odin. Maybe start there and ask if in your situation it's even possible to do that .. I'm not 100% as to the steps needed
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Armyeclipse said:
My phone works fine, its just using a 3.4.0 kernel with some KOT49H.i545VRUFNC2 build that i dont want. Last time I rooted was on my Droid X, so excuse me if i am a little rusty.
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As I said...if you had read beforehand you would have know you can't fully revert to 4.3 after flashing that 4.4 image in odin
Update! 4.3 and rooted
I got some help and then i went HERE and now im back on 4.3 with a build of vruemk2. Im also rooted so i made progress. However according the the thread i followed, you have to use some bypasslkm file to get WIFI to work. WTF? i have no idea what im doing. I tried to follow the directions given, by using terminal emulator but i cant figure it out. I cant even find the data/local/tmp folder it says to put the bypasslkm into. Thats where im at now, but something has to be done because i NEED WIFI.
jamesd1085 said:
As I said...if you had read beforehand you would have know you can't fully revert to 4.3 after flashing that 4.4 image in odin
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I wasn't sure if Surges downgrade method would work here... But I'm assuming since this user seems to have simply Odin the NC2 on his phone rather than the update to NC2 and have root method... That he's SOL for now.
Thanks for clearing it up
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Mistertac said:
I wasn't sure if Surges downgrade method would work here... But I'm assuming since this user seems to have simply Odin the NC2 on his phone rather than the update to NC2 and have root method... That he's SOL for now.
Thanks for clearing it up
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Surges method is meant to fix his situation I believe... But there are as always things that cannot be overwritten...he will be able to switch back to 4.3 but certain things from 4.4 are permanent and I think have caused some issues for those who reverted.
Forget it
Forget this crap, im just gonna sell it back on ebay and get another one.
Armyeclipse said:
Forget this crap, im just gonna sell it back on ebay and get another one.
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Check swappa.com for an MDK base S4 if you want more freedom. They've come down on price quite a bit
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Verizon Software Update Assistant on Mac just popped up and started downloading an update. It doesn't say what version but I'm assuming it's KitKat. My internet is only 1mb down right now so it will be awhile before it's finished.
jeremy81 said:
Verizon Software Update Assistant on Mac just popped up and started downloading an update. It doesn't say what version but I'm assuming it's KitKat. My internet is only 1mb down right now so it will be awhile before it's finished.
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I just updated through Kies. KitKat ftw! Totally unexpected.
Downloading through kies now. Haven't used this before might start using to do a local backup
Pulled it from the software upgrade assistant as well. When I did a manual check on the phone it said was up to date.
Rom n900vvrucnc4
N900VVRUCNC4
samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-N900V&details=Galaxy_Note_3__Verizon
samsung-updates.com/details/27868/Galaxy_Note_3_Verizon/SM-N900V/VZW/N900VVRUCNC4.html
Hope you all know there's probly no chance to roll back, better hope safestrap works. Its always best to let devs tear through the update before updating.
dhufford81 said:
Hope you all know there's probly no chance to roll back, better hope safestrap works. Its always best to let devs tear through the update before updating.
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This is excellent advise!!!! This is why I will stick with NC2 for awhile.....
If someone can send me aboot, sbl1, rpm, and tz, I will tell you if we can downgrade. It looks like this is NC4.
somebody snag the nc4 modem
Kingo that!
Michael R. said:
Kingo that!
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Don't think Kingo works with NC4...
ryanbg said:
If someone can send me aboot, sbl1, rpm, and tz, I will tell you if we can downgrade. It looks like this is NC4.
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im downloading tar now wioll get u files shortly
ps- why are all u guys updating :/ the chances of ever getting root again on this rom are slim to none unless the bootloader isnt incremented which ishighly unlikely.. look at the s5 13k bounty for just root and its still not out yet..
let me tear through this and provide a safe way to update and keep root
dont take the update.. i will provide a safe way to update and keep root and a way to be able to revert to the old kernel with the insecure modules for when kexec starts working if it cooperates..
BeansTown106 said:
dont take the update.. i will provide a safe way to update and keep root and a way to be able to revert to the old kernel with the insecure modules for when kexec starts working if it cooperates..
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Thank you Beans ! I was going to wait till you made it safe [emoji3]
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BeansTown106 said:
im downloading tar now wioll get u files shortly
ps- why are all u guys updating :/ the chances of ever getting root again on this rom are slim to none unless the bootloader isnt incremented which ishighly unlikely.. look at the s5 13k bounty for just root and its still not out yet..
let me tear through this and provide a safe way to update and keep root
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You da man Beans!
Saythis said:
Don't think Kingo works with NC4...
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Yeah I wasn't going to try, I run ARLiberator and I didnt pay $30 for nothing. Seriously considering the highly advocated leak though now that I have actually taken the time to read through the PSA and thread comments.
I'm kind of a noob though, I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of programming. Am I correct in assuming that if they are able to build a custom kernel with this unprotected firmware, it will be possible to install non TW roms Like CM11 one day?
Michael R. said:
Yeah I wasn't going to try, I run ARLiberator and I didnt pay $30 for nothing. Seriously considering your highly advocated leak though now that I have actually taken the time to read through your PSA and thread comments.
I'm kind of a noob though, I don't understand a lot of the intricacies of programming. Am I correct in assuming that if you are able to build a custom kernel with this unprotected firmware, it will be possible to install non TW roms Like CM11 one day?
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if the kexec module is perfected it will allow us to 2nd boot a aosp kernel and in turn run aosp roms like cm11,aokp,gummy etc. this is a hard task but having the opportunity to use it is a very good thing
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the general forums for the Verizon Note 3? Some might just like being informed about the stock update in a thread without it being bombarded with beans rom posts. We do have the posts about this already I believe.
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T3KN0P13 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the general forums for the Verizon Note 3? Some might just like being informed about the stock update in a thread without it being bombarded with beans rom posts. We do have the posts about this already I believe.
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I wish there was a thumbs down button. :thumbdown:
dhufford81 said:
I wish there was a thumbs down button. :thumbdown:
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Well, I must be wrong then. I guess I'll try to find a general forums so I can be informed about the stock kitkat update.
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