Android 4.3/4.4 - Ornate TrueSmart

Any information on an Android upgrade?
My primary interest is getting BlueTooth Smart (BTLE/BLE/4.0) working.
I just found that 4.3 has some limitations (max 4 notifications, supposedly 7 in 4.4), so 4.4 may be what is needed. (I am playing with a TI SensorTag that has 7 sensors and I want to use them all.)
Omate said during KS that 4.3 dev was to be started "soon after KS, when 4.2 was ready". I do not consider Mediatek/Umeox/Omate being ready with 4.2 though, there are a lot of missing pieces.
Kurt Huwig indicated a couple of weeks ago on G+ that a 4.3 upgrade was to be available "soon". (Needed for increased BT stability?)
Laurent Le Pen said on G+ that 4.4 was to be ready in March, but I believe he meant that MediaTek was to be ready then. Omate answered on Facebook that Android 4.4 was to be released in August(required to support iOS companion they said).
Loki mentioned that there are work ongoing with CM and OmniRom, but without kernel sources, the work is hard and not rewarding. I would say this is the "easy"* solution otherwise, there are a number of other MT6572 phones that could share the work. LePen has endorsed CM several times, which may not be a contributor, but it is at least not working against the cause.
There has supposedly been some discussions between LePen an Mediatek (involving Daniel Ortiz) in the beginning of March.
* It is not easy to port to CM in a complete way even if you "boot in a day", but CM devs and kangers seem to succeed better on their spare time than many phone manufacturers. I have 4.4 on my 3.5 year old ZTE Blade, with ARMv6 and 512MB. That setup has not been supported by even Google and even less by Qualcom, since 4.0, yet it is working OK.

Same here. I'm waiting for the 4.3/4.4 to get BlueTooth Smart (BTLE/BLE/4.0) working.
I'm a runner and would use my TS for tracking my runs, that is GPS+BLTE Heart Rate Monitor+BT Headphones.
Lets cross fingers for this will not take so long and will be delivered...

BenjaminM said:
Same here. I'm waiting for the 4.3/4.4 to get BlueTooth Smart (BTLE/BLE/4.0) working.
I'm a runner and would use my TS for tracking my runs, that is GPS+BLTE Heart Rate Monitor+BT Headphones.
Lets cross fingers for this will not take so long and will be delivered...
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I m in good hope , too. Need a stable bt function cause want to have a companion mode for my phone. still, none of them are working...

BT stack issues are being fixed now at omate. Two to four weeks and there releasing an update for companion mode to resolve the issue.

June is what I hear. Skipping 4.3.
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Anyone has any info/update on the 4.4 release? I'm eagerly waiting for it for the BTLE support and connect my Heart Rate Monitor.

BenjaminM said:
Anyone has any info/update on the 4.4 release? I'm eagerly waiting for it for the BTLE support and connect my Heart Rate Monitor.
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I might have an answer for you in a couple of weeks. No 4.3 for sure.

Sorry but I think there will be no support from Omate or Mediatek. We have a Chinese watch with no support just like all the rest. They will use our money to party and then move on to the next crap thing they will try to sell. I really wish Kick starter would start to punish some of these guys.

I'm all the support you have.

kuronosan said:
I'm all the support you have.
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whats the answer? Android L? Android Wear?
tbh compared to the Wear devices isn't the TS actually pretty powerful??

Yes indeed.
Android L is a longshot. Wear and KK are on the way, as far as I know.

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Yes indeed.
Android L is a longshot. Wear and KK are on the way, as far as I know.
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Omate are doing a new ROM?

Yes. When I get my hands on a clean build I'll get it working and available as soon as I can.

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Yes. When I get my hands on a clean build I'll get it working and available as soon as I can.
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Any idea when Omate are going to release it?

I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to say.

New HRM requires 4.3...soon I hope
Just bought a Mio Link HRM Wristband it needs 4.3 so work....sigh. Trying to decided to hang on to it until 4.3 does come out or just take it back?

rewagner said:
Just bought a Mio Link HRM Wristband it needs 4.3 so work....sigh. Trying to decided to hang on to it until 4.3 does come out or just take it back?
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kuronosan has hinted on Google+ that he has something withKitKat so there is still hope.
The track record for Omate and ROM is not great, but MediaTek is likely doing a better initial job now, but I would not trust that we get a well working KitKat...

Same here. I gave my Pebble to my son when I got this watch. I now really miss my Pebble since all I really want is notifications over bluetooth. I really hope we will get a new firmware update some day to enable that.
BenjaminM said:
Same here. I'm waiting for the 4.3/4.4 to get BlueTooth Smart (BTLE/BLE/4.0) working.
I'm a runner and would use my TS for tracking my runs, that is GPS+BLTE Heart Rate Monitor+BT Headphones.
Lets cross fingers for this will not take so long and will be delivered...
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KitKat available for other 6572 devices it seems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55247466&postcount=17

Android 4.4.2?
Any chance this is legit?
Claims to be an 4.4.2 which would be new enough to support bluetooth properly, and run Android Wear.
w ww.needrom.com/download/true-smart-4-0/
Anyone braver than I am and willing to try it?
(I'm guessing it's not that easy, but I'd so like to be able to do something useful with my watch!).

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Android 4.3 for 2011

Guys any idea about this?
Android 4.3 for 2011 Xperias
pasan077 said:
Guys any idea about this?
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Doesnt look like we will get latest android 4.3 for 2011 line up. The 2011 models are scratched by Sony. Only if few developers can port something for us.
If Xperia X8 got Jelly Bean running, I am sure some devs will port 4.3 onto our 2011 Xperias. Can't guarantee that it will work fast and be stable though.
1st of all, Android 4.3 is not even released yet. Even if it does get released, it will take maybe a few months before a developer actually succeeds at getting a working ROM.
Don't expect anything official from Sony.
sony are getting like Samsuck behavior-abandoned their old devices after making more new shining device..after all,xperia 2011 line are still in 'Ericsson'..hahah
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Someguyfromhell said:
Don't expect anything official from Sony.
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well I don't know, I'm pretty sure their 2015 flagship will run 4.3 out of the box.
najodleglejszy said:
well I don't know, I'm pretty sure their 2015 flagship will run 4.3 out of the box.
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This is a 2011 Xperia forum, so we are talking about 2011 Xperia devices, not 2015 ones.
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4.3 should work well on 2011, 4.2.2 (pac man) is not laggy on my xmp.
Since 4.3 is even lighter than 4.2, I'll say it will still work well, better I hope
4.3 will be probably come with less feature such as radio and camera in 4.2.2
4.2 is still not stable for our device, don't think 4.3 will be better despite being lightweight.
cs098 said:
4.3 should work well on 2011, 4.2.2 (pac man) is not laggy on my xmp.
Since 4.3 is even lighter than 4.2, I'll say it will still work well, better I hope
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not all is about performance and lightness, may new android dosent support some hw-codes from our oldschooldevices, aloso we must think on camera, it was a long way to get it good working on cm10.1..... there also other problems, u can only tell if u get it boot on our devices (even this is hard devolpment..) but lets hope the best
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4.3 will be probably come with less feature such as radio and camera in 4.2.2
4.2 is still not stable for our device, don't think 4.3 will be better despite being lightweight.
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... like said this u now only when 4.3 gets booted on our devices (and use many, many logs ) and i dont think so, the camera leaked from 4.3 worked for me on 4.2.2 but only bug was u cant see wahat u shot ... (small compared to 4.12 & 4.2.2 problems)
it think 4.2.2 is really stable only think may is battery drain if u heavy user...
peace, bejunk
Mike is already working on it
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As of i know.... There will be a release of android 4.3 a.k.a CM 10.2 for our devices too..... coz I just saw a few videos where android 4.3 was installed in Galaxy Gio and galaxy SII
So Fingers crossed for the CM 10.2 to release for our devices as soon as possible
Chances are good. In first screenshots I saw that Android 4.3 is using kernel 3.4, the same as Legacy Xperia which is based on 4.2.2.
There is a chance that we may get Official CM10.2. :fingers-crossed:
Till then Mike is providing support for most of 2011 Xperias (LegacyXperia) :good:
Let sony release the JB camera drivers first. Then i will worry about android 4.2.
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Let sony release the JB camera drivers first. Then i will worry about android 4.2.
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i was @ SONY EUROPE LTD. headquarters here in berlin and asked about the drivers
1. it was really hard to find somebody who i can ask about that,,after some discuss with 2 ppl and the security man they only gave me a appointment. (for other day)
2. i was there. there was an guy who maked a cigarette break, and he was quite an asshole (sry but its true.) he told me (in short) that i would be to much work to find these codes in sony bcuz our devices are old.
great sony. :thumbdown:
bejunk said:
i was @ SONY EUROPE LTD. headquarters here in berlin and asked about the drivers
1. it was really hard to find somebody who i can ask about that,,after some discuss with 2 ppl and the security man they only gave me a appointment. (for other day)
2. i was there. there was an guy who maked a cigarette break, and he was quite an asshole (sry but its true.) he told me (in short) that i would be to much work to find these codes in sony bcuz our devices are old.
great sony. :thumbdown:
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oh man..
partypumper said:
oh man..
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i think they didnt take me for sure but i wanna only know 'why' they are not releasing some source code or libs?? it was only a try
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i think they didnt take me for sure but i wanna only know 'why' they are not releasing some source code or libs?? it was only a try
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no wonder sony is going down... can't the people at sony search a little and provide us a fortune... i wish sony ericsson was still present
The facts is,
When Sony Ericsson turned into Sony, they spent plenty of money in development & production of new devices to make a fame in market; but kept the hardware same/old for successive devices. Now condition is, they have way too many devices to maintain & money to spend on software development & software distribution for all the devices manufactured so far. It's not economical for them to do so now but as we customers have spent our money into their devices, it's our right to ask for software updates. So now they are giving reasons only to avoid old customers.
Now 'Xperienced' customers avoid Sony.

KitKat is taking forever!!!

I just can't believe that it is almost mid February of 2014 and still no KitKat. It is truly unbelievable.
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I just can't believe that it is almost mid February of 2014 and still no KitKat. It is truly unbelievable.
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I completely believe it. Its been like that for 99% of the devices out there. By the time an Android update comes out the device isn't flagship so there is really no reason for them to update it. Yes the update is floating around there somewhere on some guys drive waiting to get pushed but who knows what Verizon has up their ass.
I monitor most of the apps I use and when I update, I read user comments
"Doesn't work on 4.4! Blah blah blah!!! You need to fix this "
....So why would a person like me want to have 4.4 if the app developers don't have their products fixed yet?
Just because something is new doesn't mean that you should have it. 4.3.x is stable....let's just wait until the bugs get worked out in 4.4...
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I monitor most of the apps I use and when I update, I read user comments
"Doesn't work on 4.4! Blah blah blah!!! You need to fix this "
....So why would a person like me want to have 4.4 if the app developers don't have their products fixed yet?
Just because something is new doesn't mean that you should have it. 4.3.x is stable....let's just wait until the bugs get worked out in 4.4...
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4.4 is stable, and I only encountered one app that didn't work on it, and that was when it first came out.
Device came out ~3 months ago, and you're complaining we don't have a brand new OS version already? You're in for a lot of disappointments in the future FYI....
This discussion really should be taking place here. If it's absolutely necessary to voice your dissatisfaction with the update process, please do not create brand new threads about it.
Thank you.

Confirmed, no kitkat

http://blog.gethuawei.com/huawei-device-usa-updates/
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Was just about to post this. Disappointed. There better be a damn good reason for this.
The Instagram page says "Stay tuned to see what the future holds."
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Look for their facebook page. Huawei devices usa or something. Mine should be the first comment.
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Those developers that got a free Mate 2 are our only hope now.
I guess that's why they gave them out. "Can you guys make ROMs for us? We're too lazy."
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Would like to ask everyone who reads this and wants kit late to post all over their Facebook and twitter pages
"We want Kit kat for the ascend mate 2.
But you chose not to.
NEVER AGAIN"
Maybe some negative pressure will make them rethink.
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ScoobSTi said:
Those developers that got a free Mate 2 are our only hope now.
I guess that's why they gave them out. "Can you guys make ROMs for us? We're too lazy."
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Huawei is basically saying "you're on your own" to anyone who received a device as a devloper. That's not a great position... It's a pretty solid slap in the face. My first thought as a developer is "ok, they are out, why would I bother". I'd cut more slack if the device was 18-24 months old but they are pushing this as their flagship currently and an alternative to the more expensive phablets on the market. Even Samsung provides "reasonable" support for "old" flagships better than this.
The crazy thing is the hardware should be more than able to keep up with 4.4/5.0. Unless they are jumping right to 5.0 this move makes 0 sense to me.
Modding. Mymind and xordos with my continual softbrick testing have managed to port a pretty much fully working TWRP onto my MT2-L05 device and I have uploaded a decrypted 4.4.2 rom for my Mate 2 in this forum, so why don't we collectively try and port it to your device, any help you need that are within my skillset I will happily provide....just a thought.. .... Download the rom I posted and see what you can come up with.. ..... .
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Modding. Mymind and xordos with my continual softbrick testing have managed to port a pretty much fully working TWRP onto my MT2-L05 device and I have uploaded a decrypted 4.4.2 rom for my Mate 2 in this forum, so why don't we collectively try and port it to your device, any help you need that are within my skillset I will happily provide....just a thought.. .... Download the rom I posted and see what you can come up with.. ..... .
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Does Huawei use a tool like RSD or Odin for system images or are devs stuck with manual disk images and the like via recovery?
Hmm, I was thinking about getting one of these, now I'm having doubts. If we only
get third party firmware, would I still be able to run software which will not run with root access ?
Have any of those developers who received the free phones mentioned their intentions?
dzr said:
Hmm, I was thinking about getting one of these, now I'm having doubts. If we only
get third party firmware, would I still be able to run software which will not run with root access ?
Have any of those developers who received the free phones mentioned their intentions?
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Right now I'd hold off. Buy something else. The operating system on this phone is already a year old. Support for things like Android wear etc will be questionable in 6 months.
If Huawei doesn't update it's phones you should go with something else. Just my opinion.
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I saw the blog post on my G+ feed earlier today. I'm not really shocked, but it still really feels like a kick in the teeth.
I'm not sure what kind of luck we'll have getting a custom KK/LP Rom running on this phone. Usually the manufacturer-provided ROM is used as a baseline for other modifications to be made. If we were to spin our own AOSP Rom, could we even find the drivers and kennel modules to make everything work?
Where do we go from here?
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I saw the blog post on my G+ feed earlier today. I'm not really shocked, but it still really feels like a kick in the teeth.
I'm not sure what kind of luck we'll have getting a custom KK/LP Rom running on this phone. Usually the manufacturer-provided ROM is used as a baseline for other modifications to be made. If we were to spin our own AOSP Rom, could we even find the drivers and kennel modules to make everything work?
Where do we go from here?
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The kernel is up on one of the hosted Huawei sites. A quick once over at the BABBQ indicated it's a fairly vanilla Qualcomm 3.4 kernel with some Huawei bits sprinkled in. Shouldn't be much of an issue for 4.4. getting a 3.10 kernel up for 5.0 will be trickier and is a big question mark as 5.0 isn't officially released just yet. At the BABBQ we also discovered they didn't implement all of the modem modes in the ROM. Another developer told me they might take a closer look but gave no detail for timing.
I've been tinkering with adb backups, titanium and xposed lately and I'm not liking the stock ROM much. They omitted large chunks of the adb backup stuff rendering apps like Helium useless, the SD cards don't come through to the root context properly forcing you to enable a compatibility flag in SuperSU in order to make titanium work and apktool and other standard tools choke nicely on the system apks. I had to fall back to running the smali decompiler by hand to find the right hooks in SystemUI for a simple xposed hack.
Adding to the fun their version of Settings.apk is missing a number of standard features which you can only adjust via Tasker/SecureSettings or by hand behind the scenes. They also didn't implement encrypted storage in the vold storage stuff so you're screwed in an enterprise setting.
Based on what I've seen thus far a source based build is almost necessary if you want everything android has to offer. However, vetting a ROM to ensure various new functionality is 100% will be a pain.
Huawei left out a lot and the lack of 4.4 is a serious kick in the teeth.
Horrible
I just purchased this phone from amazon on July. I wouldn't mind the no update but I want to get a google watch in the next few months so I'm not very happy about this announcement. For some odd reason, Amazon is still letting me return this phone so I'm thinking of returning the phone. What is another phone that I can get at this price range?
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Does Huawei use a tool like RSD or Odin for system images or are devs stuck with manual disk images and the like via recovery?
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You can use Huawei's Hi-Suite software to flash roms to phone from pc. You can also pack roms up into Huawei's update format and flash them in quick update mode from your phone's external sd card, or you can install via recovery.
I bought mine on September 29 (didn't get it until early October) through the gethuawei site. I wonder if I can return it... I'll find out when there livechat is live today, the 29th of October.
After just one minor OTA update they officially announce no additional updates for their only US device... That's a deal breaker for me.
Damn, I was just about to buy this phone. Does anyone know of any good alternatives in Canada?
drvenom123 said:
I just purchased this phone from amazon on July. I wouldn't mind the no update but I want to get a google watch in the next few months so I'm not very happy about this announcement. For some odd reason, Amazon is still letting me return this phone so I'm thinking of returning the phone. What is another phone that I can get at this price range?
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Damn, I was just about to buy this phone. Does anyone know of any good alternatives in Canada?
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Nexus 5? Used flagships?
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Go spam them on g+! + my comment! (Seth Hin)
https://plus.google.com/116259104144339004134/posts/MwgooqkQpwK
Not surprised , saw this coming from the early start . Thing is , there is no alternative with these features / size at the 299$ price tag . There are phones like the ZTE nubia / moto g / Blu products / etc but they don't hold a candle to this phablet . On another note , I've customized my phone to the max and i don't need a major OS update . Just me , this phone runs perfectly for my use . Fine if they just push minor OS fixes via OTA . Developers can be our saviours ! Let's not forget this isn't really a flagship ! You're paying for the experience as created/intended at the time . Let's wait and see :thumbup:
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Damn, I was just about to buy this phone. Does anyone know of any good alternatives in Canada?
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Probably the Samsung Galaxy Mega.
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Petition: Z Ultra to be updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Hello everyone,
I made a petition about our favorite phone to get another update from Sony.
You can sign here
Phone/ROM-related petitions never work. Plus we won't have 100K people signing it - XDA isn't as big as you think, and people outside XDA just don't care or don't even know what's Marshmallow at all.
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It never work or never tried.....i think xda is big enough...people will start knowing about marshmallow and regular people also like updates....maybe in a long run Sony will change its mind...who knows....it never hurt to try..does it .
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It never work or never tried.....i think xda is big enough...people will start knowing about marshmallow and regular people also like updates....maybe in a long run Sony will change its mind...who knows....it never hurt to try..does it .
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Yeah? Check:
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-up...nternational-versions-to-android-5-0-lollipop
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-sa...ollipop-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-4g-lte-gt-i9305
https://www.change.org/p/sony-mobile-company-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact
https://www.change.org/p/meizu-tech...r-mx4-mx4-pro-and-m1-with-their-kernel-source
https://www.change.org/p/google-release-lollipop-for-android-one-devices
... the objects of which are also fairly popular devices around the globe. Did they listen? Even if they did, did they listen from there?
(And the one I'd even like to sign...
https://www.change.org/p/smartphone...oid-smartphones-with-physical-keyboard-slider)
I'm not saying that Sony won't change its mind under certain influences, just that the influence won't be a petition which can only gather merely thousands of votes in months.
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Well, companies have their own practices and strategies....merely left behind certain product will sometimes benefits that company for a long time even some owner not happy about it....i think i understand some avid users will do this to get attention...but i also know why big company will not listen...maybe they care, maybe they don't but i think if you want to apply updated program or software to certain device is expensive....to want a profit, they need to do this i think...left the product that users a gradually left behind....
Why is having marshmallow important anyway? Nothing after android 4.3 really impressed me. Every new version is buggy and harder to root and the next version tries to only resolve those bugs and introduces other bugs. But I wish you well with your goal and I hope your petition works.
like I said before in another thread. I love my ultra and how it works on KitKat 4.4.4. the battery last longer and some apps work on KitKat that don't on lollipop. I've been on lollipop 5.0.2 rooted and on 5.1.1 rooted and I didn't like it and went back to KitKat 4.4.4. KitKat work very good with my ultra and i'll stay on it till it quits working or sell it. so I don't care for lollipop and marshmallow
I donĀ“t think enough Ultras were sold to start a petition...
does GPE edition gets Android M?
Gitaroo said:
does GPE edition gets Android M?
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Not according to Sony themselves, but that could change. Don't expect it though.
I though GPE update are handled by google. If nexus 5 is getting Android M, no reason why others s800 phones can't.
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I though GPE update are handled by google. If nexus 5 is getting Android M, no reason why others s800 phones can't.
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Yup, and that's why we have no freakin' idea if it gets M. I sure hope it does, but it's impossible to tell. We'll notice in a week or two though. Cross your fingers!
go to sony official blog. the chance to be heard are bigger there. it's useless making a petition for this kind of issue.
I think, this is pure speculation, GPE has to be joint effort between Sony and Google.. Sony provide the bootloader and kernel and probably recovery too.
Google can then take a bootable platform and build Android on it.
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I think another question should be whether xzu owners would be willing to pay, say, $10 for an upgrade. I would.
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I think, this is pure speculation, GPE has to be joint effort between Sony and Google.. Sony provide the bootloader and kernel and probably recovery too.
Google can then take a bootable platform and build Android on it.
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Sony released the 6.0 binaries earlier this week, which are proprietary Sony drivers which allows ROM developers to get AOSP running on our devices, so maybe they gave those to Google too, so they can port 6.0 to the GPe(?). I don't know. I'm not sure how the GPe program works at that level, so I guess all we can do at this point is to wait and see. (Give it 2-3 weeks)
So does anyone know if GPe version of Z Ultra is getting Marshmallow? I can't find info on this..If they get it, it can be ported to regular XZU as well, right?

SS Galaxy View2. Still in production? Anroid 9.0 or 10.0 rom?

1) I noticed the Samsung Galaxy View 2 still appears to be active on the Samsung and AT&T Websites, but is currently out of stock globally and has been for a few months.
Does anyone know if this product is still in production?
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2) If it is still in production, and becomes available again, I do recommend this product for anyone looking for the largest available tablet.
Despite its shortcomings (only 1080p ips, mediocre processor and ram) it remains the largest tablet on the market, and I love mine.
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3) @deadman96385 I know you probably never want to look at Samsung View roms again after that last project, but if production continues on the View2, you may want to buy one :good: and then consider developing an Android 9.0 or 10.0 port (Currently on oreo 8.1).
I doubt it would be a pain like the original View rom. The awful proprietary charger from the View is replaced by standard Samsung usb C port at the very least.
This looks like yet again the only tablet on the market of this size. And it is, at the very least, popular enough to sell out.
The Oreo 8.1 is still supported by the vast majority of apps that don't require deep learning, and still holds 12% market share >>> but with google pushing 9.0 dev I think a 9.0 rom would vastly extend life of this tablet.
Thoughts?
Be well!
Oh are ATT bootloader still locked?
Oh wait are ATT bootloaders still locked with no way around? I thought Samsung devices were unlockable regardless.
If locked then I guess that makes my post irrelevant. Can someone confirm for me?
Ganjir said:
Oh wait are ATT bootloaders still locked with no way around? I thought Samsung devices were unlockable regardless.
If locked then I guess that makes my post irrelevant. Can someone confirm for me?
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The bootloader is indeed locked
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The bootloader is indeed locked
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RIP. Understood. Thank you.
Then I will ask one last related question since you are qualified to answer:
How long do you see 8.1 Oreo remaining usable with the majority of app? From what I can tell from the dev release, 9.0 was made so that most apps developed for 9.0 API 28 can easily be backwards compatible with previous api. Is this true? Should I be confident apps will continue to run on oreo for some time to come?
This question should help anyone who stumbles across this thread decide whether or not to buy a used (or new if they ever resupply) Galaxy View2. Because I think if Samsung was going to update it to pi themselves they would have already.
BTW - on sale at best buy right now for $399.
jkimrey said:
BTW - on sale at best buy right now for $399.
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I just grabbed one, to use for a project, but I admit that it's kinda brutal that it might be stuck at 8.0 forever. you cant even install Signal on it.
Hopefully a way around this appears to update it to 10.0 into the modern era. Must be why best buy dumped it -- recession plus shipped with end-of-life software
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Ganjir said:
RIP. Understood. Thank you.
Then I will ask one last related question since you are qualified to answer:
How long do you see 8.1 Oreo remaining usable with the majority of app? From what I can tell from the dev release, 9.0 was made so that most apps developed for 9.0 API 28 can easily be backwards compatible with previous api. Is this true? Should I be confident apps will continue to run on oreo for some time to come?
This question should help anyone who stumbles across this thread decide whether or not to buy a used (or new if they ever resupply) Galaxy View2. Because I think if Samsung was going to update it to pi themselves they would have already.
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a lot of apps dont run on galaxy view 2. mail and youtube and maps will probably always run but lots of niche stuff doesnt run.
Hopefully someone figures out how to get this device from 8.0 to 10.0
Got my View 2 a few days ago and I'm loving it so far!
It would be such a game changer if someone could (somehow) get v10 running on the device.
Right now I can't get AT&T messaging working - I want to receive my text messages from my phone on the tablet - whenever I try to sign in to AT&T messaging I am immediately taken back to the AT&T Messaging login page. I've contacted AT&T support and they said they have created a ticket for support to resolve but not a lot of hope there... At least NumberSync is working.
From the sound of it, it seems it's very unlikely we'll ever see an OS upgrade which is sad but I'm enjoying device as of now!
i heard that samsung might change their mind and provide an update for it! but it might be thru at&t only

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