I am unable to find this information anywhere but is there a way to convert the regular HTC One into the GPE completely? I don't need to to have/keep custom recoveries or root. What I want is for it to be able to pull GPE OTA updates and install them without any fuss just like the GPE device.
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I'm considering rooting my phone, which is currently running the android 4.3 update. I was wondering, if I were to root it but not flash a new ROM, would I be able to update to the newer OTA (whenever it comes out) without problems? I was able to on my old samsung device, but this is my first HTC device and I'm unsure if anything changes. If I am able to upgrade, and I do upgrade to the official 4.4 OTA, would the fastboot menu still show "tampered" on the top? Thank you.
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I'm considering rooting my phone, which is currently running the android 4.3 update. I was wondering, if I were to root it but not flash a new ROM, would I be able to update to the newer OTA (whenever it comes out) without problems? I was able to on my old samsung device, but this is my first HTC device and I'm unsure if anything changes. If I am able to upgrade, and I do upgrade to the official 4.4 OTA, would the fastboot menu still show "tampered" on the top? Thank you.
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First answer is no ..you can't take OTA Update on a Custom recovery that is needed to install Root and custom Roms.
Second one is to remove the Tampered text all you need is to s-off your phone with RumRunner. once your s-off you can do many things with your phone. Read the Sticky Guides on how to unlock bootloader and installing custom recovery / Roms
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First answer is no ..you can't take OTA Update on a Custom recovery that is needed to install Root and custom Roms.
Second one is to remove the Tampered text all you need is to s-off your phone with RumRunner. once your s-off you can do many things with your phone. Read the Sticky Guides on how to unlock bootloader and installing custom recovery / Roms
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Okay, that makes sense. Thank You!
I'm trying to return my HTC One back to being unrooted because I wanna update it and almost everywhere I read, you need to unroot to get over the air updates. So I got S-Off and I relocked my bootloader, but whenever I try running the RUU, it always fails. I tried flashing it and I tried running the exe file. Why does it keep failing? Also, is it true you can't get OTA updates while being rooted? The RUU I use is for Cingular (which from my understanding is the one AT&T uses) and I have Super CID. Lastly, if anyone knows an easier way to return my phone to being completely stock and unrooted that would be great. Thanks in advance!
Which RUU did you use? Apparently the last official one was JB 4.3 w/ Sense 5.0, ver. 3.17.502.3. The one for KK4.4.2 w/ Sense 5.0, ver. 4.18.502.7 was apparently not actually released by ATT and many people were having problems with it.
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Well near as I can tell the RUU did not originate from HTC, someone was able to create it and sign it same as HTC would. But the files behave differently than the "Real" HTC RUU. The only solution I found was to use the True HTC RUU from 3.xx.502.x and OTA to 4.xx.502.x to 5.xx.502.x. It requires s-off to flash the OTA's so it's not the perfect solution for everyone.
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So if you tried with the KK4.4.2 RUU, download the JB4.3 RUU from http://www.htc1guru.com/. Since you're S-OFF, you can use either the .exe or the decrypted .zip. I used the decrypted .zip before and it worked fine. Once you get that flashed you can then take the OTAs to update to KK4.4.2 w/ Sense 6. You'll need to be on the AT&T network to get those OTA. Otherwise you'll need to manually flash the updates, as clsA states in his post that I quoted above.
As for not getting OTAs while being rooted....
It's not so much that being rooted prevents getting OTAs. It's the process of getting to root that modifies or deletes system files that need to be intact for the OTA to work. OTA need to be installed through stock recovery. If you're rooted, it's most likely that you have a custom recovery. Also, unlocking the bootloader deletes some files the OTA checks for. If those files not there, the OTA will not install.
Flashing an RUU is the easiest way to get completely stock. It resets the phone to an out-of-the-box state. Whereas a factory reset done from bootloader or recovery basically just wipes the data partition, which will remove any apps you installed and user data. But any modifications to the system partition that are done remain. You don't get back the files that are deleted when you unlocked the bootloader.
Also, since you are S-OFF, there's no need to relock your bootloader to run an RUU. That's only required if you're S-ON. And once you get S-OFF, there is no reason to go back to S-ON.
Since I just want to get the new OTA update, do you recommend I just flash the update as opposed to going back to stock recovery because I don't mind having a rooted phone? Also, my phones camera suddenly became blurry, is it possible that the rooting had something to do with it? If it did, would flashing the OTA update fix it or would I need to go back to stock recovery or would neither fix it? Sorry for so many questions.
First off, what version is currently on your phone? Depending on where you're currently at you may need to flash more than one update in order to get it to the latest version. And no matter what, you'll need to flash stock recovery in order for the updates to flash. OTA updates, whether taken OTA or flashed manually, require stock recovery, as I mentioned before. Also, again as I mentioned before, the process of rooting your phone (more specifically, the process of unlocking your bootloader) most likely deleted files from your system partition that need to be in place in order for the OTA updates to install. If they are not there, the update will fail. So to answer your question...No, I don't recommend "just flash the update as opposed to going back to stock recovery". It won't work.
Since you didn't answer my question and state which RUU you tried, I don't know if you tried a bad 4.4.2 RUU or if there are other issues with your device and/or computer that's preventing any RUU from installing. If you just don't want to flash the RUU, then you can try flashing the update in the phone's current state and when it fails, you can analyze the error report, try to track down stock versions of the files you're missing and restore them if you find them, then try the update again, hoping you found everything. That's a lot more of a hassle than just flashing the RUU, flashing the updates, rooting, and setting up your phone.
Another option is to just flash a custom ROM. Most of them will bring the phone up to the latest version. Some will even take it higher than what is officially available from AT&T.
As for your camera problem, can't see how just rooting would cause that, but maybe it did. Without knowing the cause of the issue, I can't say if just flashing the OTA would fix it. If it's a software issue, then possibly it would. If it's a hardware issue, then probably not. Focus on updating the phone and worry about the camera issue if it still persists once updated.
Sorry, I forgot about your question. First of all, I got it working using RUU Zip M7 UL JB43 SENSE50 MR Cingular US 3.17.502.3-decrypted. The one that didn't work for me is RUU Zip M7 UL JB 50 Cingular - 1.26.502.12. Second, I am running 4.4.2. Thats for anyone who comes across this and was wondering. Thanks for your help sharksfan7. Also, in case you were wondering, my camera is still blurry, but I'll start a different thread for that.
I am thinking about converting my HTC One M8 on AT&T to the Google Play Edition with OTA updates. I would unlock the bootloader, gain S-Off, get TWRP, and change my CID for OTA updates.
However, I have heard that it is not super simple to convert back to completely stock HTC sense firmware. I have heard it is easier with the HTC RUU that was recently released, but it's supposedly more difficult to convert back to stock because of partition sizes when converting from the Google Play Edition back to regular.
Is it really as simple as changing the CID, running the RUU, and removing the tampered banner and relocking the bootloader? If it is more complicated than that, what steps would I take to converting back to HTC 100% stock?
BTW I have seen threads regarding this, but the directions didn't seem very clear. Thanks for the help, and I would appreciate it if you could explain things as simple as possible. Thanks
I've seen some similar reports, of the Sense RUU failing after doing the GPE conversion.
My advice, don't do the full conversion, unless you are really really interested in being "fully converted". You can still flash GPE ROMs without being fully converted. The only difference with the "full conversion" is you get OTAs. But the updates get posted to XDA as flashable ROMs soon enough, anyway. And also you get some internal storage space back, due to the partitioning difference on GPE.
You don't need to change the tampered banner when you RUU, this will be removed when you RUU. But why exactly would you want to do that, or change the UNLOCKED flag? Unless you are planning to sell or trade the device, there shouldn't be any reason to go to "100% stock".
My phone is currently Rooted with TWRP installed, and im running gpe 4.4.4 stock rooted rom from the android development forums. Now, considering im s-on and have no computer at home at the moment, I was trying to figure out a way to update my firmware so that i can test out and flash one of these new lollipop roms. If I flash using twrp an at&t stock rom such as "Stock AT&T 1.58 Deodexed" from the AT&T forum,
1. Will I receive an OTA from at&T
2. Is it safe to accept the OTA
3. Will it update the firmware properly, so that i may flash a lollipop firmware.
My guess is that the answer to #2 will probably be a no. My phone is originally an at&t device btw.
Thanks for any help.
Most OTA's will fail simply cause you have a custom recovery.
If you can afford $25 just gain S-OFF using "Sunshine"
You need to be on stock ROM and stock recovery to install an OTA. Root is okay, and bootloader unlocked is okay ("okay" meaning the OTA will install, but you will lose root).
The stock ROM is normally odexed, so I don't think the deodexed will qualify as "stock" enough to allow the OTA to install (I'm thinking NO). The fastest way to return to stock ROM and recovery is probably by RUU (relock bootloader required for RUU).
Not sure what you mean by "safe" but as long as you meet the above conditions you will be able to receive and install OTAs. You will lose root as mentioned (but can easily just re-install custom recovery and root again). And your data should remain intact; although you should always backup important personal data, anyway.
But be aware there is currently no AT&T OTA that will update you to the current (3.x) firmware required for LP custom ROMs. The OTA for 4.4.4 is rumored for Dec. 29, but its already been delayed twice.
If you don't want to s-off, you will have to wait until 4.4.4 rolls out (to update the firmware). Or just s-off by sunshine and be done with it.
How to upgrade ATT HTC ONE M7 without losing root
Hello all, I have an AT&T HTC ONE M7 that is currently running Android 4.4.2 with HTC Sense 6.0 (software # 5.03.651.3). I have rooted it with TWRP and SuperSU and need some guidance to update my phone without losing the root (or unroot/upgrade/re-root). Can't seem to find anything. I want to stick with the factory ROM ideally, but would be happy to take a look at any other that is comparable. Not looking for added capability, just want to get my phone up to date.
Thanks in advance!!
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I'm not an expert on these things, so hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't software # x.xx.651.x for Sprint devices? The AT&T factory software is x.xx.502.x. So either you don't have an AT&T version of the M7 or you're not running the factory ROM. It's definitely not the AT&T factory ROM.
But to answer you question, since you're already rooted with a custom recovery, there probably has been enough changes to the system that will prevent the OTA's from installing, even if you reflash stock recovery. And if you are in fact running the Sprint ROM while on the AT&T network, you probably wouldn't get the OTA's anyway. So in order to get the latest updates you'll need to flash a ROM clean. Since you want to stay factory stock, that means the RUU, which you can download directly from HTC. You'd definitely want to confirm which variant of the M7 you have and make sure you get the right RUU. Pretty sure the AT&T RUU won't flash to a Sprint branded device unless you're S-Off w/ Super CID. And there may be some other incompatibilities in this situation. You may want to look into custom roms at this point.
However, once the RUU is complete and the clean ROM is up and running, it's a simple process of flashing TWRP and installing SuperSU to root.
You'll then need to spend time setting up all your apps and customizing everything to your liking, so make sure to set aside a block of time to do that. And be sure to backup any personal files onto your computer before running the RUU. It will wipe the sdcard.
So, yes, as it turns out, my brain was not working correctly and I do indeed have a SPRINT M7, not an AT&T one. I'm not sure why I confused that. Regardless, thanks for the help, sounds like I can do what I need to do without any significant risks, minus the time involved.
Thanks.