Questions about [S-OFF] after the 2014-OTA ... the incredible - Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE

Sorry for being a noob in advance I really would like to root this phone, and have been trying for like the past 3-4 months trying everything from z4 root the app to hasoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, and I still cannot seem to root it. If anyone thinks they can help me or if you would like to try please msg me. And so what exactly is s-off? What do drivers do and how do i know which to get? How to temp root? I appreciate you reading this thank you

Not getting sideways, but google is seriously your best friend in situations like this. Google exactly what your asking and read, read, read. To answer one of your questions, I know there hasn't been a 100% successful s-off procedure since the recent OTA update. I think its going to be a while before one is found.
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TheGOAT232412 said:
Not getting sideways, but google is seriously your best friend in situations like this. Google exactly what your asking and read, read, read. To answer one of your questions, I know there hasn't been a 100% successful s-off procedure since the recent OTA update. I think its going to be a while before one is found.
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S-off has been achieved on the latest ota. I have used it myself.

My fault for the misleading info, what s-off procedure did you use?
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i guess ... this one:
[S-OFF] after the 2014-OTA ... the incredible _has_ been achieved & is fully working

2014 OTA, can't get s
nevermind. I got it

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Main version is older??

I'm trying to root, but hboot is telling me that MAIN VERSION IS OLDER when I try to downgrade. There's no other option but press power to reboot. Is there a work around this?
I tried searching for a related topic first on my phone. But I found nothing.
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You must not have gotten temp root first and flashed the misc.img.
Try flashing the MR1 RUU and then start the rooting process over from step 1, and be sure you follow every step carefully. If you are using an auto root script.......then I would advise JCase's manual method that is stickied in the dev forum.
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JBO1018 said:
You must not have gotten temp root first and flashed the misc.img.
Try flashing the MR1 RUU and then start the rooting process over from step 1, and be sure you follow every step carefully. If you are using an auto root script.......then I would advise JCase's manual method that is stickied in the dev forum.
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he's using auto root
yareally said:
he's using auto root
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Sounds like the script failed to do exactly what I said which is no suprise considering the failure rate they tend to carry.
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JBO1018 said:
Sounds like the script failed to do exactly what I said which is no suprise considering the failure rate they tend to carry.
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Not that I wish any harm on him, but I did warn him earlier in another thread about the risks of using that method and the problems that might happen. Hopefully he works it out. I noticed he lives in Columbus and I'm around there. If he buys me a beer or two, I'll root his phone for free in person
I'm almost wondering if warning them is useful. Ya just know they aren't reading the OP and have little idea what they have on their phone. I know I've told a few people not to, but they usually do. And when it doesn't work, the answer is always the same: "go use the guide".
I got it. I was being a dumbass. But if you want your beers anyway, I just moved to Reynoldsburg. COME GETEM
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[Q] Did you get an OTA update for 2.08.651.2? DONT TAKE IT.

Especially if your S-OFF Rooted.
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RMACEVO427 said:
If not.. I would just like to know what its for? Thanks.
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Word is that there maybe some trickery involved and it may close the security flaw...."misc tweaks and fixes" Id just hold off.
i wouldnt i have ship s-off and above that it says locked.. after updating it
nao2003 said:
i wouldnt i have ship s-off and above that it says locked.. after updating it
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That sucks
nao2003 said:
i wouldnt i have ship s-off and above that it says locked.. after updating it
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So you took the OTA update and your saying it gave you "ship s-off" adding "Locked" above it? Were you rooted before you took the plunge...? Can you post a picture please of what this looks like if possible..
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Don't break the first rule of S-OFF and rooting....
*** NEVER take an ota.
True.. I've done that before when I first started learning. It happens, but don't worry dude!! There will be a fix for that one day.. for now though, if that OTA messed up your S-OFF Root. Maybe you can find a way to fix it if you have the will power to learn
This sounds like a very noob question but here goes anyway, I am not taking the OTA update because I don't want to risk losing s-off and root. How do I clear the update notification in my notification bar. I don't want my kids to do the update on me when they play with my phone. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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Robert542 said:
This sounds like a very noob question but here goes anyway, I am not taking the OTA update because I don't want to risk losing s-off and root. How do I clear the update notification in my notification bar. I don't want my kids to do the update on me when they play with my phone. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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Gotcha.. Heres the process:
Hit Menu>Settings>System Updates>HTC software update>Uncheck Scheduled Check.
You can click on the OTA in your task bar and just click cancel. Its not going to automatically download. I just did that on my 3D evo so I assure it will work.
Just click on the Update and a popup box appears, just hit cancel and poof its gone until the next schedule update.
Thank you
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I'm assuming profile and PRL are ok but not HTC software. What about firmware? Is that just the stock kernal update like I'm thinking it is?
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Also...can anyone officially clarify the definition of all four of those items? I'd like to think I have a solid idea but its all just assumptions from reading and doing...never saw a real deal definition. Thanks in advance
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Skyphos said:
Also...can anyone officially clarify the definition of all four of those items? I'd like to think I have a solid idea but its all just assumptions from reading and doing...never saw a real deal definition. Thanks in advance
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Profile is your data/call/account information from Sprint. Updating this can sometimes fix errors with data/call/account stuff, or sprint might have you do it for whatever reason. No harm can come of it.
PRL is preferred roaming location, and basically updates your phone's knowledge of towers. Not vital to update, but can be done whenever just to be up to date. Also cannot cause harm.
HTC software is, well, HTC's software on your device. This can be in the form of apps or whatever other proprietary crap HTC has on your phone. This can cause some problems, and sometimes anti-dev updates can be hidden. Just wait for news if you see one of these updates.
Firmware update is something like going from android 2.3.2>2.3.4. Major android updates or device-specific changes will come through here. Don't do these updates; wait for their rooted counterparts.
Hope I helped.
Thanks. I had a brain fart on the firmware haha. For some reason I was thinking it may be called firmware but was using the wrong vocabulary or something lol. The others were fuzzy but my assumptions were spot on (yay).
Thanks again for the info!
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Skyphos said:
Thanks. I had a brain fart on the firmware haha. For some reason I was thinking it may be called firmware but was using the wrong vocabulary or something lol. The others were fuzzy but my assumptions were spot on (yay).
Thanks again for the info!
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Don't say thanks, lol, hit the button! Thanks!
I get this firmware confused with something that we talk about in Robotics all of the time. Don't worry about it
Haha thanks for answering that as I had the exact same question. I posted in the general Q&A forum with no response, I am new not only to rooting but this site too, so I didn't know the QA forums are also phone specific. Anyhow thanks RMACEVO427 for answering the system update icon question! Now, if you know, I am running the viper ROM and I was wondering if I would be losing any advantage of this or any future OTA updates by being rooted, or do the dev's keep patching up their ROMs to keep with/ahead of the game?
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Haha thanks for answering that as I had the exact same question. I posted in the general Q&A forum with no response, I am new not only to rooting but this site too, so I didn't know the QA forums are also phone specific. Anyhow thanks RMACEVO427 for answering the system update icon question! Now, if you know, I am running the viper ROM and I was wondering if I would be losing any advantage of this or any future OTA updates by being rooted, or do the dev's keep patching up their ROMs to keep with/ahead of the game?
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Good devs always incorporate anything good/useful from the OTA's in a timely manner. There is NO disadvantage to being rooted, except that you can't rent movies and books in the market.
What if I'm totally stock (S-on, unrooted) but I plan to get s-off and root in the future. I know people have warned that it might close the loophole to get s-off but what are the chances that devs will also have a workaround for the new firmware later on down the road?
Biofall said:
There is NO disadvantage to being rooted, except that you can't rent movies and books in the market.
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Seems to be a fix for even that here. Although I still prefer Netflix =p

[Q] HTC unlock method quick question

Just got my Evo 3D in the mail and was wondering if using the HTC unlock method gives me root or if there is another step to follow.
efan3719 said:
Just got my Evo 3D in the mail and was wondering if using the HTC unlock method gives me root or if there is another step to follow.
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well, here's helpful advice, search for your answers before you post threads, I promise you'll learn more from it, plus no waiting for other members to respond.
look at this link, it is a guide for hboot 1.5 HTC unlock/root/flash roms/etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
il Duce said:
well, here's helpful advice, search for your answers before you post threads, I promise you'll learn more from it, plus no waiting for other members to respond.
look at this link, it is a guide for hboot 1.5 HTC unlock/root/flash roms/etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
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Thank you for the response. I guess I didn't word my question right or I'm just too dull to see the answer. I was wondering if just to get root if I had to flash the twrp recovery and everything else. I'm sorry if I'm wasting everyone's time with stupid questions.
Yep, and be prepared it will erase everything. Just did it myself but never better. Rooting is worth it, at least to me.
This is why I haven't done the htc way.
Don't want to erase anything
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blakklanta said:
Yep, and be prepared it will erase everything. Just did it myself but never better. Rooting is worth it, at least to me.
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What do you mean "erases everything"? It hard resets the rom to factory defaults when you use the htc method? Mine is coming to me in the mail and I assume odds of getting Hboot 1.5 at this point are very high.
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HTC method is like a hard reset.
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besr way to not brick on htc evo lte?

the best way to not brick the epic touch is to not flash in ics kernel what's the best way to not brick w the evo lte?
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the best way to not brick the epic touch is to not flash in ics kernel what's the best way to not brick w the evo lte?
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Keep it stock.
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whaaa?
Sorry am mobile I guess what I mean is...is there a known way to brick with elte? Like flashing ruu while unlocked or something I apologize not very familiarwith HTC at all
kurtiskobain said:
Sorry am mobile I guess what I mean is...is there a known way to brick with elte? Like flashing ruu while unlocked or something I apologize not very familiarwith HTC at all
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HTC dev is flash friendly. So is regaw one click program that you can find in the development forum. Lazypanda s-off is the only known program that causes bricked devices....oh and if you don't have a clue what you're doing. Read read read its your best friend
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Steven 1 said:
HTC dev is flash friendly. So is regaw one click program that you can find in the development forum. Lazypanda s-off is the only known program that causes bricked devices....oh and if you don't have a clue what you're doing. Read read read its your best friend
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wow thanks man i really didnt think i would get a sincere response here...everyone around here seems a little stuck up and entitled, kinda like the old hero days
of course the best way to not brick is to do your reading, but if you had the epic touch you would know all the reading in the world couldnt save you...no brick warnings in the OP aside, people were bricking just by factory resetting YUCK!!
glad i got the htc evo lte and glad that its harder to bricl, just wish the community here was a little bit more warm ya kno
Haha its probably the side of bed they woke up on. Believe me, this is a great community filled with informative and and helpful individuals. But when you begin to talk about a phone that isn't the LTE (specifically samsung)
People become a bit irritated. Aha or so it seems.. just read a bit cz samsung and HTC are different regarding flashing and techniques on unlocking. Goodluck and enjoy
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A question to a question.
What is your end result? What are you aiming to do? Where does your device stand now?
I ask because it makes it easier to answer your question.
Picked up my 4glte today at lunch and by the time i left work i had root, s-off, unlocked bootloader, and recovery. I am more than happy to help where i can.
Steven 1 said:
HTC dev is flash friendly. So is regaw one click program that you can find in the development forum. Lazypanda s-off is the only known program that causes bricked devices....oh and if you don't have a clue what you're doing. Read read read its your best friend
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^
That whole recovery thing on the epic is the reason I despise the Samsung phones and the New kernal and modems every week with no change at all. There's only a few ways for ur phone to get bricked here. Experimental roms/mods (unlikely) or a simple bad flash (not likely either as recovery just says failed and u can flash something else)
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munsterrr said:
A question to a question.
What is your end result? What are you aiming to do? Where does your device stand now?
I ask because it makes it easier to answer your question.
Picked up my 4glte today at lunch and by the time i left work i had root, s-off, unlocked bootloader, and recovery. I am more than happy to help where i can.
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I also had my elte rooted and rom'ed within the hour I was looking for some general tips, tricks, best behavior and routines when dealing with the elte to avoid issues...knowing only way to brick is purely poor judgment or possibly a bad download is comforting.
Alllllllll this thread was for was to collect data to compare to other devices which have had issues bricking or getting ruined by easily doing something small or specific

Root the DNA

Is there like some sort of secret to root this phone? And if not why isn't it posted all over the place. HTC Dev wont let me unlock so it's impossible for me to do anything.
addictedhacks said:
Is there like some sort of secret to root this phone? And if not why isn't it posted all over the place. HTC Dev wont let me unlock so it's impossible for me to do anything.
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Poorly kept secret, really? here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109862
Ah.. Theres a 2 star rated complete root thread stickied in Dev. However this is not. Thank you.
addictedhacks said:
Ah.. Theres a 2 star rated complete root thread stickied in Dev. However this is not. Thank you.
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"original development" subforum does make finding stuff like this more time consuming sometimes, I agree. I rarely think to check it myself.
Also the sticky in the development section that lists all of the root methods mods Roms you name it I'm sure its in that post
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Also the sticky in the development section that lists all of the root methods mods Roms you name it I'm sure its in that post
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Youre a little late..... 10 years late. Read the first post it wasn't there. However, It might be there now.
addictedhacks said:
Is there like some sort of secret to root this phone? And if not why isn't it posted all over the place. HTC Dev wont let me unlock so it's impossible for me to do anything.
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Youre a little late..... 10 years late. Read the first post it wasn't there. However, It might be there now.
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Well there isnt anything indicating that you've found what you were looking for, I'm not quite sure what you mean by me being 10 years late and I do know for a fact that a little searching around the development forums you would have found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011243 at the top of the page just where I said... oh and all questions are supposed to be posted in the Q & A section...
you gotta unlock the bootloader first then flash a boot.img w/ system write enabled then flash a recovery then the modules and then the superuser.zip to get root access...
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Well there isnt anything indicating that you've found what you were looking for, I'm not quite sure what you mean by me being 10 years late and I do know for a fact that a little searching around the development forums you would have found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011243 at the top of the page just where I said... oh and all questions are supposed to be posted in the Q & A section...
you gotta unlock the bootloader first then flash a boot.img w/ system write enabled then flash a recovery then the modules and then the superuser.zip to get root access...
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Thanks man. Have a good one!
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Thanks man. Have a good one!
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There's a button for that.
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There is also a really good thread stickied in the Q&A Section which explains some issues and links the unlock method. The unlock method thread should probably also be stickied in the Development Section IMHO.
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT WITH THIS UNLOCKING THING!!! I just got the DNA on 2/14 and nothing is going through. I have been trying for the past two days. I try the CID.apk method...nada; HTCDev method...nada; tried flash RUU method...same crap. All failing!!! Do I need to return it and got another one???
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME OUT WITH THIS UNLOCKING THING!!! I just got the DNA on 2/14 and nothing is going through. I have been trying for the past two days. I try the CID.apk method...nada; HTCDev method...nada; tried flash RUU method...same crap. All failing!!! Do I need to return it and got another one???
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How about providing some actual, useable information. Like,what does "failing" mean exactly?
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You're right beaups, let me break it down:
-From the CID.apk method, I got the "VZW_001" in abd fastboot oem readcid, which I heard is a no go.
-At HTCDev I got the error code #160 message (MID Not allowed) when I pasted the token ID (from start to end, excluding the word INFO) that I obtained from fastboot oem get_ identifier_token.
-RUU.exe stated not to be able to update my device to 1.15xxx from 2.4.605.2
I don't know what else to do. I cannot retire my Droid 4 just yet because of that. Your help would be very appreciated.
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You're right beaups, let me break it down:
-From the CID.apk method, I got the "VZW_001" in abd fastboot oem readcid, which I heard is a no go.
-At HTCDev I got the error code #160 message (MID Not allowed) when I pasted the token ID (from start to end, excluding the word INFO) that I obtained from fastboot oem get_ identifier_token.
-RUU.exe stated not to be able to update my device to 1.15xxx from 2.4.605.2
I don't know what else to do. I cannot retire my Droid 4 just yet because of that. Your help would be very appreciated.
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Ok. Has your phone already taken the update? (What software version are you on?). If its been ota'd, there is no unlock method for you currently. And based on what I've found so far, there may not be one any time soon.
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beaups said:
Ok. Has your phone already taken the update? (What software version are you on?). If its been ota'd, there is no unlock method for you currently. And based on what I've found so far, there may not be one any time soon.
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Yes I had an update as soon as I slipped my SIM card in. I am running the 2.4.605.2 version right now. Can the Jcase's exploit help me change the CID in order to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev?
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Yes I had an update as soon as I slipped my SIM card in. I am running the 2.4.605.2 version right now. Can the Jcase's exploit help me change the CID in order to unlock the bootloader via HTCDev?
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No. There is no method to unclock your phone at this time.
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beaups said:
No. There is no method to unclock your phone at this time.
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That sucks...! Thanks though
http://goo.gl/zfwUo
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No. There is no method to unclock your phone at this time.
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As this is my first post I beg of you to take it a little easy on me. I am currently on the new OTA and have had the DNA for 5 days. I realize the lockdown on this phone is particularly harsh with this update so I am curious if I can return the phone to Verizon for a non-updated new one but I will need some type of ammo to go in there with to really get them to exchange it. The only problem I have had so far is that my financial pages for paying bills (Verizon included) and my expense reporting will not load. Perhaps this is a java error that the OTA may have caused and I am sure Verizon wants their money so that will be a way to win.
Are there any major issues with the current OTA I can add to my complaint list to get my hands on another one?
And yes, it is very rude to ask a dev if they are coming close to a solution but I am curious if it will be all for naught and the workaround is on the horizon or in the near future. I'm sure it's on many new owners' minds and they are scared to ask so let the noob bashing begin on me. I can take the abuse.
Knowing my luck I will come home from the store and blammo beaups and jcase have cracked it.
Update : Called Verizon, made claim, got a new in box sealed DNA, brought it home and went to work on it!
Proud owner now of a rooted, unlocked, s-off, rom and custom kernel running, new OTA radio, future updates from Verizon ota's blocked, bad boy of a DNA!

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