Is there a reason to dual boot on a phone? Why not just flash a new ROM if a person wants to try a new ROM? Is there really a point in having multiple ROMs on the phone? I could understand it if it were possible to flash an entirely seperate OS to it, but since android is android is android, why bother doing it?
Reason is simple. You currently got a stable rom but you wanna try another rom to make sure if everything goes well before porting over . This saves a lot of time in restoring your backup if the "new" rom you are trying is problematic or you dislike it.
earthtk said:
Reason is simple. You currently got a stable rom but you wanna try another rom to make sure if everything goes well before porting over . This saves a lot of time in restoring your backup if the "new" rom you are trying is problematic or you dislike it.
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I had dual booted before....
I flashed neat Rom as secondary with sammy 4.3 as primary and baam! Error state 7....
So the point is, its not good practice (the trying ROM part, otherwise I love dual booting)
Make sure to make a nand backup
Well,
I db to get the sammy features along with aosp, like one would be set up for battery, other for daily use etc...
k-semler said:
Is there a reason to dual boot on a phone? Why not just flash a new ROM if a person wants to try a new ROM? Is there really a point in having multiple ROMs on the phone? I could understand it if it were possible to flash an entirely seperate OS to it, but since android is android is android, why bother doing it?
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my two cents
one of the reasons is that Sammy ROM is not that frequently updated.. another reason is that kitkat is still being improved.. so what do you do when you want to try kitkat too and also have need for longer battery life, better camera etc.
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Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
Da9L said:
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
Branwen said:
Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
Da9L said:
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
Hey,
Well basically when my HD2 gets back from repair I am thinking of doing some of this ROM business with it.
I have been looking at the "Energy ROM" which looks pretty sweet. However, I have also been looking the Android build "shubCRAFT Minimal Hybrid".
Now im not sure whuch one to install but then it came to my mind, can I install this Energy one and then install the android build? I have seen you can do a duel boot up which I may look into.
However is it possible?
Thanks
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Hey,
Well basically when my HD2 gets back from repair I am thinking of doing some of this ROM business with it.
I have been looking at the "Energy ROM" which looks pretty sweet. However, I have also been looking the Android build "shubCRAFT Minimal Hybrid".
Now im not sure whuch one to install but then it came to my mind, can I install this Energy one and then install the android build? I have seen you can do a duel boot up which I may look into.
However is it possible?
Thanks
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they are not mutually excluisve and to have android you need windows (at least for now.)
flash energy. then put shubcraft on your sd card and use the dual boot (which allows which one to launch.) best of both worlds!
Hi,
I'm sure that's a dumb question, but I had to ask it.
I have a Gen8 tablet, and would like three things:
Backup the whole ROM in order to put it back later on
Use that ROM in order to build another one for the same device
Use that ROM (look&feel, apps and so on) to build another one for another device
I've seen that some firmwares (with root) are available for this tablet, and would like to understand how they were built.
Did the developers start from aosp + archos "modified" kernel, or did they start from the existing ROM (aos files from Archos)? Or even a mix of all that?
I installed the SDE yesterday, and have yet to make a complete backup.
Thanks.
Its hard to say where to start after asking these questions. You should read a lot before doing it. Roms based on Cyanogenmod like Buzcuit's one are easy to backup. If you base a new rom on the existing one you will get the bugs of the main rom (Bizcuit's for example) and the bugs of the new rom.
Thanks for your reply.
I don't know if I'll try a new ROM for such an old device, but do you know how these ROMs were made?
I've seen there how to build a new kernel for the tablet, but not a complete system (I often build android-x86, but never tried aosp).
This is rooted stock firmware. Its made by Archos. You should read a bit more about it. I am not a developer and I have pretty basic knowledge and I havent tried myself. Biz and the others can help you much more then me. But ya, u have to read pretty much to start.
Ok, thanks.
Hello ! I recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini 4.2.2 JB but i still use my custom rom. Now i am aware that i cant use the full features of GravityBox module on Xposed because it doesnt support Samsung TouchWiz. Can you guide me on how can i flash Vanilla Android (I'm not exactly sure what this is) on my galaxy device, so i could benefit on 100% from the GravityBox.
Vanilla Android usually refers to an Android system with no modifications by manufacturers or ROM devs. You should find such ROMs and lots of explanations in your devices forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini. For example you could try Cyanogenmod (which is not vanilla but close enough that Xposed should work well): http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Serranoltexx_Info The installation guide there should also work for most other ROMs. Whatever you do, keep in mind that gathering as much information as possible before doing something prevents most problems
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Vanilla Android usually refers to an Android system with no modifications by manufacturers or ROM devs. You should find such ROMs and lots of explanations in your devices forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini. For example you could try Cyanogenmod (which is not vanilla but close enough that Xposed should work well): http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Serranoltexx_Info The installation guide there should also work for most other ROMs. Whatever you do, keep in mind that gathering as much information as possible before doing something prevents most problems
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Thank you. One more question, when i flash the new rom everythink in the phone erases, right ?
Yes! Before flashing you will need to wipe everything in your custom recovery (you'll easily find out what that exactly means). But since you seem to be rooted you can backup your apps and data by Titanium Backup.
Hwyl.Fawr said:
Yes! Before flashing you will need to wipe everything in your custom recovery (you'll easily find out what that exactly means). But since you seem to be rooted you can backup your apps and data by Titanium Backup.
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Alright, so i go under recovery mode, wipe everything out and then i can flash the new rom vie Odin. Then i just make backup with my titanium and I'm ready to go ?
You first make the backup with titanium, after flashing you restore it. But, yes, thats in general the procedure to follow. Anyway, since I have no experience with your device, I gave you the two links. Just in case there is something special to keep in mind.
Yes i will take a closer look to the whole process these days before doing it. Thank you for the help :highfive:
Hey guys,
Got on hands noname Chinese android phone with lollipop on board (even though it says 6.0.1 in settings) and MTK6580 quad processor, 3.10.72 kernel
can I somehow put cyanogen rom from another phone?
Yes, find another phone using that chip: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_using_Mediatek_SoCs
Then go here: http://www.needrom.com and find THAT phone(s) and see if there is a custom rom for THAT phone also using the same kernal 3.10/3.12 etc
Download that rom and port it yourself using the boot.img from YOUR phone using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-how-to-port-lollipop-based-roms-t3223938
And get it at least booting on your phone, out of loads I've done on MTK phones, 95% boot up first time, 50% of those have no issues, the other 50% have issues with cameras/wifi/video/phone that can be fixed literally with trial and error of swapping files from your stock rom to the new rom, can take hours/days of trial and error or could take minutes.
Have fun
EDIT: try to use a custom rom from a brand you have at least kinda heard of, doogee, walton, infinix...etc to make it more likely to work well.
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Yes, find another phone using that chip: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_using_Mediatek_SoCs
Then go here: http://www.needrom.com and find THAT phone(s) and see if there is a custom rom for THAT phone also using the same kernal 3.10/3.12 etc
Download that rom and port it yourself using the boot.img from YOUR phone using this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-how-to-port-lollipop-based-roms-t3223938
And get it at least booting on your phone, out of loads I've done on MTK phones, 95% boot up first time, 50% of those have no issues, the other 50% have issues with cameras/wifi/video/phone that can be fixed literally with trial and error of swapping files from your stock rom to the new rom, can take hours/days of trial and error or could take minutes.
Have fun
EDIT: try to use a custom rom from a brand you have at least kinda heard of, doogee, walton, infinix...etc to make it more likely to work well.
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Thank you for your response!
After few hours of research I have found many ROMs that are applicable for my phone. The thing is, I want it to be and look as close to stock android as possible, and as close to most recent version as well.
But still I have few questions:
1)Am I right by saying that kernel 3.10.72 is suitable only for android 5.x?
2)Is it possible to put android 6.x or 7.x?
3)If it is do I need to ugrade kernel?
4)Is it possible to upgrade kernel?
I really hope it's not too much to ask from you.
Regards,
vant2239
Vant2239 said:
Thank you for your response!
After few hours of research I have found many ROMs that are applicable for my phone. The thing is, I want it to be and look as close to stock android as possible, and as close to most recent version as well.
But still I have few questions:
1)Am I right by saying that kernel 3.10.72 is suitable only for android 5.x?
2)Is it possible to put android 6.x or 7.x?
3)If it is do I need to ugrade kernel?
4)Is it possible to upgrade kernel?
I really hope it's not too much to ask from you.
Regards,
vant2239
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Your phone is basically the same as mine, and sadly the kernal has to be the same for every custom ROM, there are no kernel sources so no custom kernels, which means we are both stuck with lollipop
The infinix hot 2 for example, is the same MTK chip and was released with lollipop and kernel 3.10 but then infinix released a stock marshmallow upgrade, with a stock 3.12 kernel so they could get a custom 6.0 rom which im 99% sure we will never get.
If you go here: http://www.needrom.com/author/robneymcplum/ this is me on there, where I have ported the best 5.1.1 roms with our kernel. You will need to port to your phone, which is literally just swapping about 10 files from your stock rom so make a backup of your stock rom or find stock firmware, and get the files from there and use the guide i already posted.
Hope this helps. And if you have never done it, its way, WAY easier than you think it might be