Hi team,
Stumbled across this on the xda homepage and must say I love it, I just have a few questions, I know it's still in beta so a few of these may already be in the works anyway.
How do I back up my settings? If they are stored in the cloud any plans of being able to back up to my device? I'm not a fan of clouds, I like to be responsible for as much as my own data as possible
Will you be adding the ability to import settings/catagories/folders etc from other launchers such as nova?
Is it or will it be possible to have folders within categories? Lazy question I know lol
Would it be possible to make it so you can hide apps from the main apps tab but show in a selected category? I understand this may not be possible or too awkward to implement
Any chance of adding a feature that allows you to have a hidden category that could be accessed by say a gesture? This would be really cool
Can home screens be reordered? I know I can just drag everything to another page and set it as default but an option to reorder would be more convenient
I had a few more questions but they elude me right now so will ask if or when I remember haha
Anyway keep up the good work, this is already better than most other launchers and I'm sure in the future this will blow all others out the water
Mr.R™ said:
Hi team,
Stumbled across this on the xda homepage and must say I love it, I just have a few questions, I know it's still in beta so a few of these may already be in the works anyway.
How do I back up my settings? If they are stored in the cloud any plans of being able to back up to my device? I'm not a fan of clouds, I like to be responsible for as much as my own data as possible
Will you be adding the ability to import settings/catagories/folders etc from other launchers such as nova?
Is it or will it be possible to have folders within categories? Lazy question I know lol
Would it be possible to make it so you can hide apps from the main apps tab but show in a selected category? I understand this may not be possible or too awkward to implement
Any chance of adding a feature that allows you to have a hidden category that could be accessed by say a gesture? This would be really cool
Can home screens be reordered? I know I can just drag everything to another page and set it as default but an option to reorder would be more convenient
I had a few more questions but they elude me right now so will ask if or when I remember haha
Anyway keep up the good work, this is already better than most other launchers and I'm sure in the future this will blow all others out the water
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Hi!
Settings can't be backed up just yet, we might look into this in the future.
You can import favorite apps from another launcher by going into your favorites and selecting - Import from launcher.
Folders within categories, probably not, but we'll speak to the team
Hiding apps from the app drawer and only shown in certain categories - good idea - we'll also pass this onto the team.
For hidden categories, you can always create a custom category, then just deselect it in the categories list. However adding a gesture might be very tricky.
Homescreen reordering will arrive soon
Thanks for your contributions, if you think of any more just ask
Great thanks for that
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Are the widgets in themer created from Zooper?
id3alistic said:
Are the widgets in themer created from Zooper?
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Almost of the new themes are created in a Zooper hybrid (Themer Zooper Widget). It works/looks exactly the same, however Play Store themes as yet can't be loaded. Older themes and some new themes use Everything Widget, which also has its pro's and con's.
How does a person create a theme and then use it? I'd like to have very specific things on my theme but other than adding to an existing theme, i can't seem to take away from an existing theme, how do I create a new one from scratch?
I know they say watch the vid but if you are like me you need to see it in writing,it makes more sense to me that way.Anyway the easiest way is to grab a theme and change it around/edit,get a feel for the program then create your own by changing wallpapers,icons,weather etc.A lot of themes now won't let you edit them I have found,however download any of mine and edit away they are all editable,as are a few more posted here but names don't spring to mind,none in my opinion are any better or worse than each other they just have their own little attributes that makes them unique in their own way.So go on and play around m8,it will be fun.
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I know they say watch the vid but if you are like me you need to see it in writing,it makes more sense to me that way.Anyway the easiest way is to grab a theme and change it around/edit,get a feel for the program then create your own by changing wallpapers,icons,weather etc.A lot of themes now won't let you edit them I have found,however download any of mine and edit away they are all editable,as are a few more posted here but names don't spring to mind,none in my opinion are any better or worse than each other they just have their own little attributes that makes them unique in their own way.So go on and play around m8,it will be fun.
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Thanks, I cannot stand those youtube videos that "show" you how to do things. I find them tedious and unusable. I'd rather just get some instructions, an application and let me do it. Yet, so many seem to post "youtube instructions" i write this stuff for a living and have never found a video more useful than written instructions. However, that's my bias.
I'll go check out some of yours.
I agree with your assessment that NONE of the themes I've downloaded have been editable. I don't want to ADD more widgets and icons to a theme. I just want to start with a blank canvas and let me do it.
Yet, if all these themes exist, HOW were they created? I'm really not going to watch a youtube video. There has to be a building application somewhere. Not re-engineer something already there.
One question, when you say "download mine" where do I find yours. None of the ones I've seen through the application say who created them.
mine and others are in the screenshots and themes forum beneath the general discussion.I agree fully with the video and much prefer to read it as I find it more followable,but again I suppose that is my bias too.You can start almost fresh,grab a theme as posted earlier,then delete everything,if the theme uses everything widget this is simple to do,just press screen and choose remove,then change the wallpaper by selecting your own then simply add you own widgets etc via the inbuilt everything widget (although this isn't as stable as it could be) or download widgets from playstore etc then add them,hope this helps apologies if I seem to waffle on.
alldroid said:
mine and others are in the screenshots and themes forum beneath the general discussion.I agree fully with the video and much prefer to read it as I find it more followable,but again I suppose that is my bias too.You can start almost fresh,grab a theme as posted earlier,then delete everything,if the theme uses everything widget this is simple to do,just press screen and choose remove,then change the wallpaper by selecting your own then simply add you own widgets etc via the inbuilt everything widget (although this isn't as stable as it could be) or download widgets from playstore etc then add them,hope this helps apologies if I seem to waffle on.
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Got it, will go over there and check them out.
sanjsrik said:
Got it, will go over there and check them out.
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Hi sanjsrik,
I'm the one who made the YouTube tutorial videos, so I apologize if they weren't that informative. Those were created in the beginning just to give people a basic understanding of what Themer was about.
Alldroid is correct in saying that starting with a fresh blank theme is the best, then just seeing what works and what doesn't. My advice would be learn more about Zooper Widget, as a lot of the newer themes use it, and it's brilliant. That's all Themer is essentially, a wallpaper, some widgets, and maybe some icons if you're feeling brave. We do recommend making the grid size quite large, in order to make the widget resizing easier. you might also notice that the new themes include incredibly detailed icons, these are in fact Zooper fonts, so as mentioned play around with the Zooper widgets found in the new themes.
If you need help/ideas feel free to ask, I'm always here to help!
- Marco
It isn't that the video isn't informative,it probably is but some people including myself prefer to read it via a text file or maybe a pdf file
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It isn't that the video isn't informative,it probably is but some people including myself prefer to read it via a text file or maybe a pdf file
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Would you like us to create in-depth text tutorials on our site?
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Would you like us to create in-depth text tutorials on our site?
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Marco,
I would definitely go for it... though I am more of a "hands on" student and for learning I need to hear the stuff (that's how I learned all the stuff during college - my wife reading the material and me laying down and just listening - damn, she was so furious when I got the same grades as she did... ;o]]]), the text might help you gain more audience among those "give-me-a-manual-and-shut-up" types.
You have created a superb product for the tinkerers so a step further in the direction of a superb customer/user support would be a definitive nod in the right direction.
I personally would like more short video tutorials on specific features, how they work, what is their purpose and the mechanics (Yeah, you guessed it, I am not that familiar with design and graphics;o]) and maybe a tut on the 'codes' for custom formats of zooper widget.
well and maybe few more videos with theme designers like the one you guys did with GeriArts would also be inspiring... ;o]]]
another definate yes here too thanks,would make it a more better product in my opinion.
ThemerSupport said:
Hi sanjsrik,
I'm the one who made the YouTube tutorial videos, so I apologize if they weren't that informative. Those were created in the beginning just to give people a basic understanding of what Themer was about.
Alldroid is correct in saying that starting with a fresh blank theme is the best, then just seeing what works and what doesn't. My advice would be learn more about Zooper Widget, as a lot of the newer themes use it, and it's brilliant. That's all Themer is essentially, a wallpaper, some widgets, and maybe some icons if you're feeling brave. We do recommend making the grid size quite large, in order to make the widget resizing easier. you might also notice that the new themes include incredibly detailed icons, these are in fact Zooper fonts, so as mentioned play around with the Zooper widgets found in the new themes.
If you need help/ideas feel free to ask, I'm always here to help!
- Marco
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I promise I am NOT complaining. I promise I am NOT criticizing. I am just asking the question, WHAT is Themer?
from everything I understand, it's not a true "application", it's a wallpaper that then people can add widgets that "do" things.
if this is the case, HOW are these widgets "locked" where they can't be changed in a lot of the wallpapers I've downloaded.
THAT is my only question.
Oh, and how come there's not a "builder" application for Themer?
sanjsrik said:
I promise I am NOT complaining. I promise I am NOT criticizing. I am just asking the question, WHAT is Themer?
from everything I understand, it's not a true "application", it's a wallpaper that then people can add widgets that "do" things.
if this is the case, HOW are these widgets "locked" where they can't be changed in a lot of the wallpapers I've downloaded.
THAT is my only question.
Oh, and how come there's not a "builder" application for Themer?
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No worries we weren't offended by your comments, we're just trying to make everyone's theming experience as easy possible.
Themer is a launcher. Just like TouchWiz, Nova, Apex, ssLauncher, etc. It's a link between the hardware and software, you could think of it as the body/shell of a car. The car can have a different shell, and with Themer, it's shell can be customized in seconds.
Calling it a wallpaper with widgets doesn't really do it justice, as a launcher incorporates your app drawer as well, and maybe some more features arriving soon.
One thing to remember is that Themer, once stripped to its core, it a launcher, just like the rest. By that we mean you're able to edit/add/remove widgets, change wallpapers, change the icons (icon pack support arriving soon), etc. To unlock widgets, hold down on the homescreen - Advanced - Unlock Widgets. Repeat the process to lock them, or alternatively you can go into the main Themer settings - Advanced - Desktop - enable Lock Desktop Widgets.
Whenever the widgets/icons are unlocked, this can be called the "builder" mode, as you can add/remove/edit widgets and icons.
Hope this helps!
sanjsrik said:
I promise I am NOT complaining. I promise I am NOT criticizing. I am just asking the question, WHAT is Themer?
from everything I understand, it's not a true "application", it's a wallpaper that then people can add widgets that "do" things.
if this is the case, HOW are these widgets "locked" where they can't be changed in a lot of the wallpapers I've downloaded.
THAT is my only question.
Oh, and how come there's not a "builder" application for Themer?
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I am always critizising m8 it's what makes it a better program,constructive critisizm always helps,your post didn't seem offensive to me m8
ThemerSupport said:
No worries we weren't offended by your comments, we're just trying to make everyone's theming experience as easy possible.
Themer is a launcher. Just like TouchWiz, Nova, Apex, ssLauncher, etc. It's a link between the hardware and software, you could think of it as the body/shell of a car. The car can have a different shell, and with Themer, it's shell can be customized in seconds.
Calling it a wallpaper with widgets doesn't really do it justice, as a launcher incorporates your app drawer as well, and maybe some more features arriving soon.
One thing to remember is that Themer, once stripped to its core, it a launcher, just like the rest. By that we mean you're able to edit/add/remove widgets, change wallpapers, change the icons (icon pack support arriving soon), etc. To unlock widgets, hold down on the homescreen - Advanced - Unlock Widgets. Repeat the process to lock them, or alternatively you can go into the main Themer settings - Advanced - Desktop - enable Lock Desktop Widgets.
Whenever the widgets/icons are unlocked, this can be called the "builder" mode, as you can add/remove/edit widgets and icons.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you for the constructive email.
I think the biggest confusion anyone has with your "application" is that it doesn't seem like an application. It really does sound like a wallpaper with widgets. For example:
* Is there the ability to add groups for grouping together like kinds of applications?
* Can I add my own icons for applications?
Think GoLauncher or some other such "launcher" application that exists.
sanjsrik said:
Thank you for the constructive email.
I think the biggest confusion anyone has with your "application" is that it doesn't seem like an application. It really does sound like a wallpaper with widgets. For example:
* Is there the ability to add groups for grouping together like kinds of applications?
* Can I add my own icons for applications?
Think GoLauncher or some other such "launcher" application that exists.
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1. With Themer, you can add in Smart Category folders. For example the Games Category, when you install a new game, it will show up in this category and then whichever theme has a games folder, this new game will automatically appear. This saves a lot of time, but you can also manually add in your own categories or manually add in your own apps to a category.
2. Icon pack support is still limited. If you have icons on the homescreen, these can be edited manually. Some icon packs are supported, but you can also set them to other images in your gallery.
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YES! I watched many of the videos and I'm still very much confused. I have specific ideas for what I want, and although I can figure some things out on my own by trial and error, reinventing the wheel is both time-intensive and tiresome.
Also, I am glad to hear that icon pack support is on the list. Although my plans include heavy use off the app drawer, I'd like to have the icons in there be pleasing to my eye as well as the ones on my home screen.
It's a great product, one that I've already suggested to several friends. I just am more demanding than the "average bear".
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j3nn said:
YES! I watched many of the videos and I'm still very much confused. I have specific ideas for what I want, and although I can figure some things out on my own by trial and error, reinventing the wheel is both time-intensive and tiresome.
Also, I am glad to hear that icon pack support is on the list. Although my plans include heavy use off the app drawer, I'd like to have the icons in there be pleasing to my eye as well as the ones on my home screen.
It's a great product, one that I've already suggested to several friends. I just am more demanding than the "average bear".
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
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Great to hear! Stay tuned for text-tutorials!
Hi.
I would like to have as well an written tutorial. Seems very interesting. I start now to play around with the themer myself from downloading a theme then deleting all a add my stuff.
Can i use all icon packs ? what format they have to be ?
störte said:
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I would like to have as well an written tutorial. Seems very interesting. I start now to play around with the themer myself from downloading a theme then deleting all a add my stuff.
Can i use all icon packs ? what format they have to be ?
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most icon packs by default don't work with themer,but there is a way round this although you will need to manually change the icons you want to use.
Download apk extractor from Playstore
download the icon packs you want to your device
using apk extractor extract the apk of the icon pack you downloaded,this file will be stored on your device main storage in the apk extrat folder.
Attach your device to your laptop etc,then drag the extracted apk icon pack to it
rename the icon.apk and change the apk extension to zip
open with your favourite zip program
then simply extract the icon file images
this thread helped a lot
Hi,
First of all - love the app!
Second, I'd love it even more if you'd add support for the following:
1. Add a smart group for apps not in any other groups. That would make it a lot easier to sort things.
2. Add support for more icons in each folder of the launcher. We all have hobbies and interests, and with those we are more or less bound to have more apps supporting those hobbies/interests than will fit in the default folders.
3. Make it easier to save settings from a theme, to either re-apply if going back to the theme or to import parts from into a new theme. For me, an ideal candidate would be an "app page" with my favorites easily accessible. This page, actually, is the main reason (along with all the pain of reverting with all my settings if I want out) I don't try out more themes.
Cheers,
Lars
tiwas said:
Hi,
First of all - love the app!
Second, I'd love it even more if you'd add support for the following:
1. Add a smart group for apps not in any other groups. That would make it a lot easier to sort things.
2. Add support for more icons in each folder of the launcher. We all have hobbies and interests, and with those we are more or less bound to have more apps supporting those hobbies/interests than will fit in the default folders.
3. Make it easier to save settings from a theme, to either re-apply if going back to the theme or to import parts from into a new theme. For me, an ideal candidate would be an "app page" with my favorites easily accessible. This page, actually, is the main reason (along with all the pain of reverting with all my settings if I want out) I don't try out more themes.
Cheers,
Lars
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Hi, thanks your support!
1. You mean the Unknown Smart Category?
2. You mean having more icons for the Custom Smart Categories. A feature like that will be added in the future.
3. You can save a theme by going into the main Themer Settings - Advanced Settings - Export Theme. A feature like saving 'pages' will also be looked at in the future.
Thanks for the suggestions
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Hi, thanks your support!
1. You mean the Unknown Smart Category?
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Thanks for replying,
as for #1, the unknown category doesn't really cover it. I have apps that aren't in any categories at the moment. Is it possible to reset one category only? That might pick up newly installed apps, but it seems the unknown category doesn't pick up all apps not sorted into other categories...
tiwas said:
Thanks for replying,
as for #1, the unknown category doesn't really cover it. I have apps that aren't in any categories at the moment. Is it possible to reset one category only? That might pick up newly installed apps, but it seems the unknown category doesn't pick up all apps not sorted into other categories...
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We'll pass this onto the developers, thanks!
I strongly dislike when apps like to split up settings menu for me trying to dumb it down for the average user. Instead, I want back the one-page settings menu instead of sorting it into multiple pages.
Is there a native way to do it, or an app that emulates every feature of settings on one page? Or, how can I hack this to show a one-page settings menu?
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I strongly dislike when apps like to split up settings menu for me trying to dumb it down for the average user. Instead, I want back the one-page settings menu instead of sorting it into multiple pages.
Is there a native way to do it, or an app that emulates every feature of settings on one page? Or, how can I hack this to show a one-page settings menu?
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List view instead of Tab view. Upper right in Settings.
ChazzMatt said:
List view instead of Tab view. Upper right in Settings.
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Thank you, but this does not put them all on one page, it puts the categories on one page with many submenus, unlike previous phones I've used. It does get rid of the tabs though so it's an improvement
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Thank you, but this does not put them all on one page, it puts the categories on one page with many submenus, unlike previous phones I've used. It does get rid of the tabs though so it's an improvement
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That's the max that can be done with Lg's UI
You must have been running some custom ROM or UI or something because Android by default - any version - has never had a single long column for Settings that provides access to every possible option. There's always been a category list, then submenus in each category, and so on.
br0adband said:
You must have been running some custom ROM or UI or something because Android by default - any version - has never had a single long column for Settings that provides access to every possible option. There's always been a category list, then submenus in each category, and so on.
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Maybe I'm used to Touchwiz which has fewer subcategories and a much longer settings page (Galaxy S5, Galaxy S7, Note 9).
Just looked at my S5 and it's sorted out by categories all on one page:
WIRELESS & NETWORKS
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DEVICE
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PERSONAL
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MOTION
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ACCOUNT
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SYSTEM
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Where I wrote "...." that is a list of subitems (instead of typing every menu item out on this post) all on the same page of the home page of the settings screen. This is on S5 with Kitkat, but note 9 and S7 are similar.
Would like to get that same menu back on this phone.
Hello XDA Forum.
Im about as novice as it gets with coding/scripting/application development so I'm looking for some help with a phone application I want to develop.
First, any tips on a free/cheap program to get started using? I dont need anything flashy. Just a good starting point.
Then, does anyone have an example program/script outline, advice or tips that get me to close to this desired outcome:
I want to generate an image, based on a given set of icons/images/text. It would incorporate individual pieces into a final product image.
I want to do this by allowing a user to select options, and those options should reference the corresponding image/icon/text.
Preferably I would use buttons or a drop-down menu or spinner per category of options since there would be a lot of options to choose from. Basically, a giant wall of option checkboxes would be overwhelming.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Free-of-charge apps are Android Studio, MIT, Sketchware et.al:
GIYF
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Free-of-charge apps are Android Studio, MIT, Sketchware et.al:
GIYF
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I looked into the MIT app, and it seems like I can make this happen with it, but the Block builder section was overwhelming for me lol
I feel like I need to have a list of the applicable images, which populate to a new list based on user selections, then they all populate to a results screen, but I'm too novice to figure it out.