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Is there a way to root my neo running firmware 4.0.2.a.0.62 without using fastboot
I have unlocked bootloader using test point
But the phone is sim locked so its not possible to boot into fastboot mode by holding the menu key and plugging in usb
Is the no other method to root this version other than fastboot
DooMLoRD method does not root the device either
Even though i am sim locked can i still install custom roms if i was eventually able to somehow get cwm on the device
manemzjum said:
Is there a way to root my neo running firmware 4.0.2.a.0.62 without using fastboot
Is the no other method to root this version other than fastboot
DooMLoRD method does not root the device either
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no way. you need to downgrade to 42, and read this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468866
which you could found if you search a bit(actually it's on the same page.. and in the sticky roll-up thread), user with 300+ posts should know that.
manemzjum said:
Even though i am sim locked can i still install custom roms if i was eventually able to somehow get cwm on the device
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only the ones which doesn't require custom kernel, but most of them does.
Madfysh said:
no way. you need to downgrade to 42, and read this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468866
which you could found if you search a bit(actually it's on the same page.. and in the sticky roll-up thread), user with 300+ posts should know that.
only the ones which doesn't require custom kernel, but most of them does.
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so really im wasting my time unless i can unlock the phone
And of course i searched but was unsuccessful
No need to unlock bootloader to root phone.
You only have to use flashtool to flash .42
then use flashtool to root.
then use flashtool to flash .62
Follow the guide from above, its a 5 minute job
downgrade to .42
root with Doomloard method
[Q] Downgrade from .244 to 307
Hi Folks
I've just updated my tablet to the 10.3.1.A.0.244 and i didn't knew it wasn't rootable, I feel like an idiot.
So now i want to downgrade to .307 wich can be root and then update it to .244.
I spotted this tuto [FTF][4.2.2] Xperia Tablet Z (SGP321) 10.3.1.A.0.244 Global Unbranded but i'm not quite sure about some of the steps.
How can i flash the .307 firmware with flashtool if my tablet isn't bl unlocked?
How after flashing the .244 firmware back can i boot my tablet from a boot.img?
And finaly does the backup TA method really relock the bl as it was prior bl unlock?
Thank you in advance for you help!
satanluimm said:
Hi Folks
I've just updated my tablet to the 10.3.1.A.0.244 and i didn't knew it wasn't rootable, I feel like an idiot.
So now i want to downgrade to .307 wich can be root and then update it to .244.
I spotted this tuto [FTF][4.2.2] Xperia Tablet Z (SGP321) 10.3.1.A.0.244 Global Unbranded but i'm not quite sure about some of the steps.
How can i flash the .307 firmware with flashtool if my tablet isn't bl unlocked?
How after flashing the .244 firmware back can i boot my tablet from a boot.img?
And finaly does the backup TA method really relock the bl as it was prior bl unlock?
Thank you in advance for you help!
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I followed the steps in the thread you mentioned and successfully backed up my TA partition, unlocked my bootloader, rooted .244 and restored DRM keys & re-locked bootloader ... It too me some time but it did all work.
Got it but...
b8drf said:
I followed the steps in the thread you mentioned and successfully backed up my TA partition, unlocked my bootloader, rooted .244 and restored DRM keys & re-locked bootloader ... It too me some time but it did all work.
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Thanks for your reply mate!
Can you tell me wich partitions you excluded in flashtool? which checkbox you checked?
i was so eager to gain root access in order to remove all the bloatware that i couldn't wait to try and finaly i did it but once finished my device was stuck in a bootloop^^
I had to update it via sony update tool to get it back.
At first i excluded everything except the system partition and i also unchecked wipe data, it didn't work...
Then i added baseband cause i assumed it was linked to the firmware and that was why it failed, wasn't it either...
I have an unknown partition which i don't what it's used for^^ and also a partition named partition ( the internal memory?).
FOTA and TA i can guess.
satanluimm said:
Thanks for your reply mate!
Can you tell me wich partitions you excluded in flashtool? which checkbox you checked?
i was so eager to gain root access in order to remove all the bloatware that i couldn't wait to try and finaly i did it but once finished my device was stuck in a bootloop^^
I had to update it via sony update tool to get it back.
At first i excluded everything except the system partition and i also unchecked wipe data, it didn't work...
Then i added baseband cause i assumed it was linked to the firmware and that was why it failed, wasn't it either...
I have an unknown partition which i don't what it's used for^^ and also a partition named partition ( the internal memory?).
FOTA and TA i can guess.
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I simply followed the instructions in the thread ...
So just to be clear
So just to be clear, you lunched flashtool you click flash, selected the flasmode method then selected the 307 firmware in the list ( where did you dowloaded the 307 firmware??
i founded it on this thread [FTF] SGP321 10.1.1.A.1.307 Unbranded)
Then what did u do? Just click flash and nothing else?
I don't see any particular directives except flash 307^^
satanluimm said:
So just to be clear, you lunched flashtool you click flash, selected the flasmode method then selected the 307 firmware in the list ( where did you dowloaded the 307 firmware??
i founded it on this thread [FTF] SGP321 10.1.1.A.1.307 Unbranded)
Then what did u do? Just click flash and nothing else?
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Correct and that is the link where I downloaded the .307 firmware from - just make sure you check the md5's after download - also make sure you have the tablet in Flashmode (FlashTool will tell you if it is in Flashmode or Fastboot)
hth.
b8drf said:
Correct and that is the link where I downloaded the .307 firmware from - just make sure you check the md5's after download - also make sure you have the tablet in Flashmode (FlashTool will tell you if it is in Flashmode or Fastboot)
hth.
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I'm confused about that cause on the BACKUP TA thread it says you cannot flash someone elses ta partition...
I'll try it
satanluimm said:
I'm confused about that cause on the BACKUP TA thread it says you cannot flash someone elses ta partition...
I'll try it
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That isn't a TA partition, that is a copy of the .307 unbranded firmware (.ftf file)
The TA partition backup is later in the instructions and you are correct, you have to restore your own TA backup as they are tied to the individual phone.
To be honest, and please take this the way it was intended, by the types of questions you are asking it would appear that this is all very new to you - please proceed at you own risk as I cannot help much further as I simply followed the instructions in the original post.
hth.
New to the tablet z for sure i've had several abdroid devices sony htc samsung, never had any problems but with this one i'm king of very cautious..
Makes me Wonder why^^
Flashed it works but i don't want to unlock the bl since i need to enter my imei on sony's website and that mate voids the garanty^^
I will stay on .307 until a root procedure comes up for .244
Many thanks for your time!
satanluimm said:
New to the tablet z for sure i've had several abdroid devices sony htc samsung, never had any problems but with this one i'm king of very cautious..
Makes me Wonder why^^
Flashed it works but i don't want to unlock the bl since i need to enter my imei on sony's website and that mate voids the garanty^^
I will stay on .307 until a root procedure comes up for .244
Many thanks for your time!
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Yes, I thought that as well re: IMEI, but simply requesting an unlock code via the Sony site doesn't mean you actually went thru with the unlock process - as long as your tablet is showing the correct Rooting status = "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" then they have no proof that you followed thru with the unlock ...
I understand your caution though ...
hth.
Ive got an unlocked XZU, its the c6806 version, and its running 4.3. Anyone know a root method for this? I am also trying to flash custom roms as well.
Phaze1585 said:
Ive got an unlocked XZU, its the c6806 version, and its running 4.3. Anyone know a root method for this? I am also trying to flash custom roms as well.
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Since you have unlocked bootloader flash boot image of desired custom rom using fastboot and then flash rom and gapps via recovery.
Phaze1585 said:
Ive got an unlocked XZU, its the c6806 version, and its running 4.3. Anyone know a root method for this? I am also trying to flash custom roms as well.
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There is a whole thread or three devoted to this, have a good read through the stickies in the general section
techpal said:
Since you have unlocked bootloader flash boot image of desired custom rom using fastboot and then flash rom and gapps via recovery.
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I dont quite understand. Are you saying, that sense my bootloader is already unlocked, that I dont even need to root my device?
Phaze1585 said:
I dont quite understand. Are you saying, that sense my bootloader is already unlocked, that I dont even need to root my device?
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You don't need to run an exploit to gain root.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader all you have to do is flash a kernel with recovery, boot into recovery and then flash SuperSU - more or less
Phaze1585 said:
I dont quite understand. Are you saying, that sense my bootloader is already unlocked, that I dont even need to root my device?
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Ya you dont need to root before installing Roms like CM,PA,etc. as they are already prerooted.
For safer side you can always flash Super Su.zip in recovery after flashing custom rom like CM,PA.
techpal said:
Ya you dont need to root before installing Roms like CM,PA,etc. as they are already prerooted.
For safer side you can always flash Super Su.zip in recovery after flashing custom rom like CM,PA.
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Thank you. Does my phone already come with its own recovery? I know im coming off as a noob, but this is my first time trying to do his for anything besides a samsung Note.
techpal said:
Ya you dont need to root before installing Roms like CM,PA,etc. as they are already prerooted.
For safer side you can always flash Super Su.zip in recovery after flashing custom rom like CM,PA.
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But you do need root to back up the TA partition before unlocking the bootloader before being able to boot roms like PA, CM etc
I don't want to open another threat but is there any way to root 290 (4.3) on my C6833? Do I need to go down first? My bootloader is still locked and I would like to backup TA partition firs just in case. So first I need to do is get SU in somehow to be able to backup TA. After that I will be rrady for bootloader I guess.
So is there any way to rot 290? I did try some methods but non of them works. I really need that GPE on me ZU. :fingers-crossed:
simunovic said:
I don't want to open another threat but is there any way to root 290 (4.3) on my C6833? Do I need to go down first? My bootloader is still locked and I would like to backup TA partition firs just in case. So first I need to do is get SU in somehow to be able to backup TA. After that I will be rrady for bootloader I guess.
So is there any way to rot 290? I did try some methods but non of them works. I really need that GPE on me ZU. :fingers-crossed:
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Read the stickies in the general section, that is what they are there for...
blueether said:
Read the stickies in the general section, that is what they are there for...
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None if that is working on 290. I can not unlock bootloader before I make backup of TA. So that I did not try. I simply can not find any root that works on 290. I love my Zu but I already missing my N5.
simunovic said:
None if that is working on 290. I can not unlock bootloader before I make backup of TA. So that I did not try. I simply can not find any root that works on 290. I love my Zu but I already missing my N5.
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READ THE STICKY
it is all explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Do the first two orange steps
Then the three purple
Then move on to flashing roms etc
Simples
blueether said:
READ THE STICKY
it is all explained here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Do the first two orange steps
Then the three purple
Then move on to flashing roms etc
Simples
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Root with restore by byn4ry v33 did not work on my c6833 (option 3). The proces just stopped after restore screen on Zu. If I downgrade my Zu then I will also have older baseband. If i downgrade, root and go back to 290 will i loose root? Is there any way to keep it? All I am trying to do is keep latest baseband with GPE rom.
simunovic said:
Root with restore by byn4ry v33 did not work on my c6833 (option 3). The proces just stopped after restore screen on Zu. If I downgrade my Zu then I will also have older baseband. If i downgrade, root and go back to 290 will i loose root? Is there any way to keep it? All I am trying to do is keep latest baseband with GPE rom.
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<SIGH>
Downgrade to .532 ftf (you will lose IMEI and cell reception if on .290)
Root with Bin4ry's tool - option 0
Back up TA
Unlock bootloader
Flash .290 ftf (all of it)
install recovery (look in the general thread for jackies post - read the unlocked BL thread) or flash the one in the rom if it has recovery
boot into recovery
flash GPe ROM
???
proffit
all of the above is off the top of my head as I cant be buggered to look it all up, but YOU should. Don't blame me if you brick the phone etc
Do all of the above with the latest flashtool etc and a full battery - avoid black cats
blueether said:
<SIGH>
Downgrade to .532 ftf (you will lose IMEI and cell reception if on .290)
Root with Bin4ry's tool - option 0
Back up TA
Unlock bootloader
Flash .290 ftf (all of it)
install recovery (look in the general thread for jackies post - read the unlocked BL thread) or flash the one in the rom if it has recovery
boot into recovery
flash GPe ROM
???
proffit
all of the above is off the top of my head as I cant be buggered to look it all up, but YOU should. Don't blame me if you brick the phone etc
Do all of the above with the latest flashtool etc and a full battery - avoid black cats
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That's my ultimate fear in all of this with a locked BL - I have had way too many black cats in my life in the past year... I just can't bring myself to take the plunge after all the bricks.
blueether said:
But you do need root to back up the TA partition before unlocking the bootloader before being able to boot roms like PA, CM etc
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But since he already has unlocked bootloader it doesnt matter if he doest TA partition. Thts why I didn't said about TA partition,
Anyways after unlocking bootloader its of no use if has backed TA partition or no.
techpal said:
But since he already has unlocked bootloader it doesnt matter if he doest TA partition. Thts why I didn't said about TA partition,
I also assumed as he has unlocked bootloader so he would have done TA partition.
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It was more as a warning to others, there has been a spat of people in the last two weeks that can't/won't read stickies and have unlocked the BL with no backup - so the more places people see the instructions the better
blueether said:
It was more as a warning to others, there has been a spat of people in the last two weeks that can't/won't read stickies and have unlocked the BL with no backup - so the more places people see the instructions the better
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Agree with you on this
help needed as i am really lost
i am new to sony x z ultra, tried for 2 days to use the little piece left in my brain to root my device and went through a lot and nothing!
my request is simple I need a one click rooting procedure (device data: model(c6833) - android 4.3 - build # 14.2.A.0.290) or detailed steps for noops
sorry for being so dum but where else to go or who I can ask for help except here
123eb said:
i am new to sony x z ultra, tried for 2 days to use the little piece left in my brain to root my device and went through a lot and nothing!
my request is simple I need a one click rooting procedure (device data: model(c6833) - android 4.3 - build # 14.2.A.0.290) or detailed steps for noops
sorry for being so dum but where else to go or who I can ask for help except here
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There's no 'one-click' rooting procedure.
There are, however, very detailed, in-depth, easy-to-follow instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
It takes the slightest bit of effort to find all the information you're looking for - at least try.
Hello dear XDA Community,
- Xperia Z Ultra
- 4.4.2
- 14.3.A.0.681
- C6833
I have a big problem with understanding all of this tutorials. I read everything about rooting and unlocking the Bootloader.
I understood that I need to backup my TA Partition for Unlocking my Bootloader so I can continue to use Sony technology.
Requirements ? Root. Okay that was my first problem. So i looked up how to root my phone and what do i need ? A phone with a unlocked bootloader. great! Sure you can say "look at this topic and carefully read" but I really did that and I am really helpless. Thanks for any help!
What did I read ?
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598&nocache=1 (requires root)
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904 (requires unlocked bootloader)
- watched severel youtube videos and encountered the same problem
Greets
tr0teK
When your bootloader is unlocked, you can never use X-Reality and any other item which requires the DRM in the Trim Area partition,
Restoring the TA partition without relocking the bootloader will not result in the return of X-Reality and such even if you are using a Sony ROM. This situation appears to have changed since the release of 4.4.
Backing up the TA partition is only good for relocking the bootloader on a Stock ROM (any custom AOSP, CM, AOSPA etc will fail to boot on a locked bootloader), for personal choice or returning the phone under warranty.
You can unlock the bootloader when not rooted, in fact you don't do it with the phone running normally anyway so root or not rooted, it does not matter in that sense.
You don't need to unlock the bootloader to root, if you are willing to re-set up your phone again. What you need to do is downgrade to 4.2, which is rootable, root, install recovery and flash the 681 pre-rooted zip, and use flashtool to flash the associated ftf file to get rooted on 681.
Follow the instructions in Lord Manhattan's thread that you linked to,in order to downgrade and install a recovery, then visit the following link to get the zip & ftf to re-up to 4.4 (681). You most likely will lose cellular connectivity whilst you are downgraded (there is a way around this, but as you are only going down to 4.2 to get a recovery, maintaining your IMEI for that short period of time is just a waste of effort), but it will return when you are back on 681 (4.4).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687848
- Downgrade to 532
- Root it using Bin4ry's tool
- Backup the TA partition
- Unlock bootloader
- Either update to 681 again and take it from there or flash a kernel with recovery/TWRP and flash a pre-rooted 681. It's easy to root 681, so whatever floats your boat.
Don't mean to hijack this topic but I don't want to open another thread,
if I back up the TA partition, unlock bootloader, root the phone, then relock bootloader, then restore TA partition to bring back the xreality,
I am not going to install custom recovery and Roms.
Thanks for the Informations. I will give it a try the next days and report you if it worked.
coolmingli said:
Don't mean to hijack this topic but I don't want to open another thread,
if I back up the TA partition, unlock bootloader, root the phone, then relock bootloader, then restore TA partition to bring back the xreality,
I am not going to install custom recovery and Roms.
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Technically it'll work, but i have never done it before. Everything should go smoothly until you're going to re-lock the bootloader. You can't re-lock it on a custom kernel, and you'll be on a custom kernel once you flash Jackie's kernel with recovery, so you'll have to flash a complete stock kernel, then restore the TA partition with the TA Backup Tool, which will also automatically re-lock the bootloader. You should in theory end up with a complete stock ROM with root. That's on paper.
Worst case scenario? If you re-lock the bootloader while you're on a custom kernel, it'll explode it won't power on at all, and all you'll get is a blinking red LED and death. To fix this, just unlock the bootloader in Flashtool again and you're back to start again. It's not dangerous, but it's nerve wrecking to see it there, just blinking without any sign of life. I almost crapped my pants the first time i experienced it, and had no clue what was happening or what to do.
LordManhattan said:
Technically it'll work, but i have never done it before. Everything should go smoothly until you're going to re-lock the bootloader. You can't re-lock it on a custom kernel, and you'll be on a custom kernel once you flash Jackie's kernel with recovery, so you'll have to flash a complete stock kernel, then restore the TA partition with the TA Backup Tool, which will also automatically re-lock the bootloader. You should in theory end up with a complete stock ROM with root. That's on paper.
Worst case scenario? If you re-lock the bootloader while you're on a custom kernel, it'll explode it won't power on at all, and all you'll get is a blinking red LED and death. To fix this, just unlock the bootloader in Flashtool again and you're back to start again. It's not dangerous, but it's nerve wrecking to see it there, just blinking without any sign of life. I almost crapped my pants the first time i experienced it, and had no clue what was happening or what to do.
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Thanks for the reply, I think I will ditch rooting from this phone, too much troubles, I don't understand why Sony put the DRM key in a trim partition, perhaps they don't want us to root the phone after all.
I did it guys. It worked!
My steps:
- Downgraded to 4.2.2 with Flashtool (.532)
- Rooted with Bin4ry's tool
- Installed CWM and TWRP Dual Recovery for Xperia Z locked Bootloader by krabappe12548
- Flashed to 4.4.2[rooted] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687848)
Now I have the newest version with Root Access. Everything works great
Greets
tr0teK
tr0teK said:
I did it guys. It worked!
My steps:
- Downgraded to 4.2.2 with Flashtool (.532)
- Rooted with Bin4ry's tool
- Installed CWM and TWRP Dual Recovery for Xperia Z locked Bootloader by krabappe12548
- Flashed to 4.4.2[rooted] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687848)
Now I have the newest version with Root Access. Everything works great
Greets
tr0teK
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is this witout unlock the bootloader?
MjsNL said:
is this witout unlock the bootloader?
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Yep, that will work well on a locked BL
If you are only downgrading to flash the current rooted firmware, you don't even need to root 532, as [nut]'s dual recovery can be installed by the same method that bin4ry's root is delivered, just install the recovery, flash the zip, flash the ftf and away you go
In xperia z2, is any security system against root like the knoxx of samsung? Which has a counter and void the warranty?
If not, the root void the warranty?
And the last question. There is already the root for version 4.4 with unlocked bootloader?
blackimera said:
In xperia z2, is any security system against root like the knoxx of samsung? Which has a counter and void the warranty?
If not, the root void the warranty?
And the last question. There is already the root for version 4.4 with unlocked bootloader?
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No need, xperia security is among the hardest to crack, not happened at all since 2011 and only 1 person ever did in 2011
It can be rooted eaisly but as said security isnt a problem with root or modding or bootloader unlock.
Root and bootloader unlock voids warrenty but you can reinstate your warrenty by backing up your TA before unlocking bootloader
You can unroot and restore your TA later
Xperias can be restored to a 100% factory state, there are no flash counters or anything of that sorts
Any questions... Just ask
Envious_Data said:
No need, xperia security is among the hardest to crack, not happened at all since 2011 and only 1 person ever did in 2011
It can be rooted eaisly but as said security isnt a problem with root or modding or bootloader unlock.
Root and bootloader unlock voids warrenty but you can reinstate your warrenty by backing up your TA before unlocking bootloader
You can unroot and restore your TA later
Xperias can be restored to a 100% factory state, there are no flash counters or anything of that sorts
Any questions... Just ask
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What is TA? And how i can backup it?
Sorry, I'm a newbie in this area ...
I searched for index topics, but i don't found ... There is here a simple tutorial on how to root the z2? And installing TWRP mode or clockwork (I think that's how you write it).
blackimera said:
What is TA? And how i can backup it?
Sorry, I'm a newbie in this area ...
I searched for index topics, but i don't found ... There is here a simple tutorial on how to root the z2? And installing TWRP mode or clockwork (I think that's how you write it).
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1. TA partition contains drm keys and other unique numbers to your device (these existing upholds your warrenty and upholds some xperia features such as X-Reality and PS4 remote play)
This link you can use this tool to backup TA but you need to root first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
2. Root via root tools (general section or development sections) (this depends on firmware version blah.bla.314 firmware or before is rootable with locked bootloader
3. Cwm or twrp requires a unlocked bootloader however if you have root you can install [NUT]'s dual recovery
I've had my z2 for two days now and previously flashed my HTC one XL so I'm not super new but still pretty green with it all. Will it matter being an Australian phone for the root etc? I don't plan on flashing a rom at the moment I'm pretty happy with the stock firmware
Cheers