[REQUEST] Cross-compatibility of badaDROID (volk204) & ZenDroKat (Tigrouzen) - Android Development on Bada

I think, badaDROID is on a state, where it is nearly ready for daily usage...
I know, there are users that prefer volk's ROM but they want to use it as NAND version.
I know, that Tigrouzen's ROM is not compilant with GPL...
For this, he uses his own page for development.
Why NAND of volk's ROM?
The ROM of volk204 is well developed! :good:
But the fact, that bada is still on device, this leads to performance issues.
These issues might be fixed with a NAND-version. Also all memory of device can be used...
So, this would bring lots of advantages.
But for users the problem is compiling your ROM as NAND version...
So maybe both developers can put their knowledge togethe to bring project forward...

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In my opinion, NAND version has more downsides than benefits for now: battery charging is not controlled properly when the OS is shutdown. Moreover as said long time ago by Rebellos and Volk when it reach 100% with android it continues the charging process by progressively damaging itself.
(however they made an impressive work!)

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Well...
There are still some points to be focused on...
But i think, batery issue seems to be fixed in nearer future... Progress is good...

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Bada must be kept as long as there is no poweroff under android. Else, the phone will under low battery go in bootloop because it can't shutdown.
Nand is indeed faster than virtual partition, but not as much as people would think.
Maybe SD Rom could be a great, but it need a good sd to be faster than Nand (and virtual partition), and some work.

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BenzoX said:
Bada must be kept as long as there is no poweroff under android. Else, the phone will under low battery go in bootloop because it can't shutdown.
Nand is indeed faster than virtual partition, but not as much as people would think.
Maybe SD Rom could be a great, but it need a good sd to be faster than Nand (and virtual partition), and some work.
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You can find a lot of sd cards these days faster than the 4 year old nand of wave. I don't see why people want a nand Rom, it has low capacity it is often slower, in contrast sd cards are dirt cheap these days and they exist in an array of sizes and speeds to use for your best interest. Also "you" get to keep Bada as a backup os in case something awful happens to your android setup... Lastly it allows to have many separate roms, simply swap your sd and voila you've rebooted into a new Rom, other people would kill for this flexibility in their phones, we're blessed to have it, why spoil it?
Also -yes- a nand Rom would not be a bad idea but only for those who would not like to buy/use an sd card to their phones... But the main development better remain to sd...

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Taxidriver05 said:
...So maybe both developers can put their knowledge togethe to bring project forward...
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I reply here to avoid going off-topic in development thread, and because this thread topic, and the line quoted, applies to what I want to say
I think that last's Tigrouzen posts show that working together in badadroid is imposible, and that some Tigrozen's sentences deserve some comment
Tigrouzen said:
On last year we are 3 personne make badadroid advanced Rebellos, Volk204 and me (some on kernel)
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Reading badadroid history, in the last three years there have been more developpers, including Mikegapinski who made the first really working ROM, and Oleg who made S8530 LCD driver
Mikegapinski intially didn't share sources and properly recognize other developers, i think it is interesting to read this Rebellos post about that situation, how he was asked to do it, and how he finally did it.
In my opinion the creation of new code (like RIL/modem/GPS) hacking undocumented phone internals done by Rebellos and Volk in these last two years is something few people, developers/programmers like them can do, and the modification of code/scripts/optimization is something more people can do, knowing that both kind of task are time demanding, and that I can't do none of them (I am not a developer, despite I appear in some credits)
Tigrouzen said:
GPL it is scam im not working for free.
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Incredible to hear that from someone who is modifing GPL sources; not only XDA rules, but linux kernel inside android also is GPL
I think several sentences are enough:
This one from Rebellos about badadroid "...3% is mine, 95% is Samsung/Google and thousands people who did linux."
This one from me: "3 personne make badadroid advanced Rebellos, Volk204 and me? Rebellos and Volk are making badadroid, which has GPL sources, advance, but Tigrouzen is not making badadroid but just zendrokat, which has closed source based on GPL sources, advance". For example Tigrouzen is announcing today a new version with "Gps from Volk & Rebellos"; (indeed, the subject of this thread shows how badadroid and zendrokat are seen as different projects ...)
Yes, Rebellos and Volk are working and sharing sources for free, because they are just expecting the GPL licence of their code is respected.

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hunktb
i'm join forum xda from 2012 ,I know what happens between Volk and Tigrouzen , we should respect them rather than divisive

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Well...
Why I opened this thread?
I see the situation as a developer AND as a user...
As a developer I would say: Yes! We have to respect other peoples work... No question...
As a user I would ask myself: Are there any improvements indevelopment?
For me it is not relevant, who brings the improvements...
Wave devices are beyond their normal life cycle...
BadaDROID development only keeps them alive...
But THIS only can work, when the devs we have work together...
If I would have the technical abilities, I'd compile a ROM by myself... But I am NOT...
So I rely on devs like volk204, Rebellos or Tigrouzen...
I do not want to say, Tigrouzen's ROM is better or volk's ROM is better...
Of course I work together with Tigrouzen...
But I do this, because his ROM is closest to daily usability...
It's a fact that the dual boot of volk's ROM eats performance...
It's not due to his work. it's due to bada...
I know, battery isue is important and NOT fixed...
But i think, both together they can fix it.
Just think about...

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All should unite to develop better
Specially These two Person >>Tigrouzen & Volk204
Hope
To respect all users
Turbidity put aside

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@Taxidriver ,
i don't think so.
I have used all 3versions .
nand/sd/virtual partition.
what i want to say is SD versions are best .
i use sandisk class10 16gb ,
and performance is really better than nand.
rom is so good, nd performance is even better than current all higher mid range phones for sure.
not even a single lag nd crazy multitasking , ahh.
yesterday , i was comparing my wave2 with friend's S3 .
and multitasking comes better on wave2 haha.
i can minimize some games like gangstar vegas,asphalt8 etc .
but on S3 games was crashing at minimize manytimes.
:XD .
(and yes, i have disabled gapps, to boost up performance)

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Senior wave user
- As a user I honestly use Tigrouzen ROM...
- For Developer I'll choose Rebellos, Volk204 for following all the GPL rules
- As a friend I like Tigrouzen even thou he sell his ROM but honestly he also share his work for free for all & easy to talk with..
Tigrouzen ROM is very optimized this is the features can't match the other roms..
But still I love all badadroid developers :good:

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While installing tigrouzen nand rom i got error while restoring system in s8530

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karan1719 said:
While installing tigrouzen nand rom i got error while restoring system in s8530
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which error?
if you got md5 mismach error then go to last option in cwm recovery and uncheck md5 checksum and restore again

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black0000 said:
which error?
if you got md5 mismach error then go to last option in cwm recovery and uncheck md5 checksum and restore again
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I have bypass md5 chexking it shows error that "error in restoring system"

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karan1719 said:
I have bypass md5 chexking it shows error that "error in restoring system"
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have you extraxted and copied clockworkmod folder in correct position i.e. memory card and it does not contain any other folder named clockworkmod inside it.

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karan1719 said:
I have bypass md5 chexking it shows error that "error in restoring system"
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On recovery, select clean to install new rom, than reboot recovery , than try,
if still not , if nand , do format bada partition , if sd , repartion sd.
if still not. than re-dload rom, it may be currupted zip.
this should help

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after flashing tigrouzen nand fota and bootloader phone doesnt boot it shows file not found

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karan1719 said:
after flashing tigrouzen nand fota and bootloader phone doesnt boot it shows file not found
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You have to put the zImage file on your SDcard

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Please stay on topic!

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As you all (should) know, Tigrouzen's ZenDroKat isn't GPL compliant. The GPLv2 requires you to share the source code if you've modified anything in the kernel, but Tigrouzen chooses not to comply with it. As such, ZenDroKat is considered as warez as far as XDA is concerned, and discussion of it is not allowed.
You can review the forum rules here and read more about the GPL here and here. Thread closed.