I've got CM11 on my S7-303u.
Seems to work pretty well but I'm running into the problem that made me end up having to put CM on it in the first place since I couldn't reinstall the stock ICS firmware. (I'm still fairly new to Android)
The problem I have is storage. 1 of the storage problems is I want the external 32g sd I have as my primary instead of the 16g internal so I can have more room for the loads of apps I want to put on it again.
With the stock ICS when I switched the primary from internal to external I could still see both with ES file manager but with CM11's KK I can only see both storage cards when the primary is set to internal. The external seems to disappear when I switch primary to external.
The reason I know this is because since I originally couldn't tell which was which, while I had it working right I put zero byte files on each of my storage cards and drives named for where they reside. i.e. '32g-External.nomedia' on the external sdcard.
Is there a way I can fix it so when it's set to external for the primary to show both internal and external?
If not I will see if I can get around it with the 'FolderMount [ROOT]' app by madmack.
The other storage question I have is what is the best app to use for mounting external usb sdcards and usb flash drives that won't interfere with Androids stock configuration on how it accesses it's internal and external cards. Meaning I don't want whatever app I use to give new mounting point names for the int/ext cards.
Can someone give me some insight?
LunaEros said:
I've got CM11 on my S7-303u.
Seems to work pretty well but I'm running into the problem that made me end up having to put CM on it in the first place since I couldn't reinstall the stock ICS firmware. (I'm still fairly new to Android)
The problem I have is storage. 1 of the storage problems is I want the external 32g sd I have as my primary instead of the 16g internal so I can have more room for the loads of apps I want to put on it again.
With the stock ICS when I switched the primary from internal to external I could still see both with ES file manager but with CM11's KK I can only see both storage cards when the primary is set to internal. The external seems to disappear when I switch primary to external.
The reason I know this is because since I originally couldn't tell which was which, while I had it working right I put zero byte files on each of my storage cards and drives named for where they reside. i.e. '32g-External.nomedia' on the external sdcard.
Is there a way I can fix it so when it's set to external for the primary to show both internal and external?
If not I will see if I can get around it with the 'FolderMount [ROOT]' app by madmack.
The other storage question I have is what is the best app to use for mounting external usb sdcards and usb flash drives that won't interfere with Androids stock configuration on how it accesses it's internal and external cards. Meaning I don't want whatever app I use to give new mounting point names for the int/ext cards.
Can someone give me some insight?
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StickMount works. It will mount the USB device. Though I have been having some issues with some mounting and some not. Granted I am running a different device and it may depend on Kernel support. But, you can try it. Then the device should be viewable through file manager.
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Mini info, and Settings - sd card and device storage settings are both telling me that the internal storage is the sd card and the sd card is the internal storage. Is there a fix or is it ok.
Do you mean sdcard and sdcard2?
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Do you mean sdcard and sdcard2?
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It says the sdcard is the sdcar/2 and vice versa
YOU BROKE IT!!! GGGAAAWWWDDD!!!
No, you are OK. Don't worry about it. It is showing up correctly, sdcard and sdcard2.
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It says the sdcard is the sdcar/2 and vice versa
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Still not 100% sure what you mean, but I think you are OK, it may have to with the ROM you are using, see the quote below from the OP of VEGan Ginger
"****The Latest Flash player from the market now works. Latest google maps now works download from the market.****
Internal Memory is mapped to SDCard and external SD Card is mapped to SDCard2."
If I open a file manager all of my internal stuff is located on SDcard, The micro SD that I can eject shows as SD2.
Depends on which ROM you're running. A lot of them switch them around. There's advantages and disadvantages to both. It certainly doesn't hurt to have them switched. The reason people do it is so that you can pull out your external SDCard and manipulate files and have them usable by your programs. The disadvantage is that you can't easily access the internal card from your computer - you pretty much have to do it from recovery (such as ClockWork Mod), because when you tether it attaches to the one named "SDCard (in Froyo).
And, to make it more confusing, they go by different names in Gingerbread:
Code:
Actual storage Froyo Gingerbread
Internal card SDCard emmc
External card SDCard2 SDCard
Those are the default names. Again, many ROMs will switch them around.
Anyways, that's just for your future reference if you move to Gingerbread.
I don't think this is surposed to happen. When I take out the sd card the tablet shows a message that says it has benn removed but it the storage space still shows up in setting. It has 1.86 gigs and even when it is disconnected it says sdcard 1.86 gigs i tried rebootee but same thing
Did you partition it like is recommended?
That would show your app partition of 2GB. And the other part of it is for storage.
I don't understand storage on Android and how it works. I would be grateful if someone could explain it.
Normally I thought that Phone memory refers to the storage space on the phone (like ROM) that was fixed and not removable. SD card is the microsd card that I physically insert into a slot on the phone. However, it seems that Android has 3 types of storage: Phone, Internal SD and External SD. Is this correct? I would appreciate if someone could clarify. Also, when I do move Apps to SD card on my CyanogenMod ROM, it seems to only move them from phone memory to internal SD, not external SD. As a general rule, is is better in terms of speed to keep the apps on internal or external SD? I don't want to keep in Phone memory since it is quite small, only about 1.8 GB. I should point out that I am using a Class 10 MicroSD, so it should be quite fast, or so I've been told.
What you refer to as Internal SD is probably not on the SD at all but read/write memory in the device itself. Basically built in storage that's an addition to the read only memory where the important stuff is.
As an example, the Omnia i900 had ROM + 8GB Storage in the Phone, with whatever you wanted to add as External SD. Plug the Omnia into a PC and you had two lot's of storage that you could drag and drop files to.
Basically you have 3 things:
ROM (Read-Only-Memory): This is where Android itself resides. All the OS stuff is here.
Phone Storage: You may consider this as the phones HDD. This is where all the apps/SMS/MMS/... are stored. (This is usually not meant to be accessed by the user to place files there, thats what the SD-Card is for)
SD-Storage: Your SD-Card where you can put everything you want. Music/Pictures/Files...
m0jo said:
Basically you have 3 things:
SD-Storage: Your SD-Card where you can put everything you want. Music/Pictures/Files...
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Is it possible to run apps off the SD-Card? When I use an app like App2SD, does it actually copy to the SD Card or just to the Phone storage? This is what confuses me, because I selected 'move to SD' on my phone (I'm using Cyanogen 7.1.0). But its still in the Phone Storage. I know this because when I put the SD card into my laptop, it does not show any of the software files.
When you move apps to the SD not all data is moved to the SD. The phone needs some files on the internal storage to run, since it needs to know that the apps are installed on the phone. When it needs to run it'll find the executable files in the internal storage, and run the data files from the SD card. Much like on a computer when you've installed an application and install it on an external HDD.
Apps you move to the SD will be moved to /Android/data/ and /data i believe since i have quite a bit of appdata in these folders.
Just got my E4GLTE and of course the first thing I did was root it, unlock it, and make a nandroid backup. I just moved from a Motorola Photon 4G and on that device the internal memory (pseudo sdcard) is mounted on /mnt/emmc and the external card is on /mnt/sdcard. Assuming you run out of app space in base memory, you can always move most of your app to the SD Card. Since the E4GLTE mounts the external SD Card on /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd, it appears that actual external storage can only be used for media or data where the app (or the system using the Storage tool) has a function to map to a different directory.
Have I described the situation properly? Does anybody else see the limitations this might pose or suggest workarounds?
..rob
bitbearmi said:
Just got my E4GLTE and of course the first thing I did was root it, unlock it, and make a nandroid backup. I just moved from a Motorola Photon 4G and on that device the internal memory (pseudo sdcard) is mounted on /mnt/emmc and the external card is on /mnt/sdcard. Assuming you run out of app space in base memory, you can always move most of your app to the SD Card. Since the E4GLTE mounts the external SD Card on /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd, it appears that actual external storage can only be used for media or data where the app (or the system using the Storage tool) has a function to map to a different directory.
Have I described the situation properly? Does anybody else see the limitations this might pose or suggest workarounds?
..rob
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Yes I see this as a problem as well. I have looked into the vold.fstab file (where the system looks to see how it should mount partitions) but changing them just makes neither partition mount. I have a feeling that it might be something in the kernel but I will keep digging around.
Also if someone does figure it out how do you prefer them to be mounted? Internal as /emmc and external as /sdcard? Internal as /sdcard/int_sd and external as /sdcard? Maybe something else?
I guess it would depend how the apps and the kernel handle it, which of course, would vary with a custom ROM. Early builds of CM9 for the MoPho alternated back and forth, but there is also an option to swap what is internal and external as well. When it wasn't mounting at all, you could edit the vold.fstab, which would be my first inclination, so thanks for saving me that step!
I think, from most implementations I've seen, when a device has internal and external storage its been mounted as /mnt/emmc and /mnt/sdcard. Its like that on most of the custom ROMs I've used (on Nook, OG EVO, Hero, MoPho).
..rob
Im really lost on the whole external sd thing. I just want to be able to have my apps on there but android has made it seemingly impossible to do so anymore. Is there a write up or something on how this can be done with todays ICS?
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Is Apps2sd/Link2sd still working with MM? I tried to use Apps2sd to create mount scripts since it's not working for Link2sd. It worked and I can link app datas and files into the Sd card. However, since I partitioned the SD card with one Fat 32 for storage and one ext2/ext4 (tried both), only the ext partitions work and the primary partition Fat32 can't be read by the phone. Leaving me with only a 2nd partition for linking and a corrupt primary partition/sd card as MM reads it. Is there a way around here since my phone is nearly full on internal. TY in advance!
-Galaxy S5 G900F International 16gb
-MM 6.0.1
What you would want to do is reformat your SD card so it's all one partition and enable Adoptive Storage.
This app should help with that: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.superthomaslab.rootessentials&hl=en
Keep in mind, Adoptive Storage will encrypt your card so it will only usable by that phone unless you reformat it again, but it's a way cleaner and better set up option that the hacked way Link2SD works. No offense to the app as it is very useful in many situations, but Adoptive Storage is a feature made by Google and is built into Android 6+ but for some phones has to be enabled via ADB commands or an app (that just automates the process for you). AS makes it so your phone sees your SD card as the internal storage and works just like it. You should have a fast SD card for this to work best. Like SDXC type. Don't use a regular class 4 SD card.
es0tericcha0s said:
What you would want to do is reformat your SD card so it's all one partition and enable Adoptive Storage.
This app should help with that: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.superthomaslab.rootessentials&hl=en
Keep in mind, Adoptive Storage will encrypt your card so it will only usable by that phone unless you reformat it again, but it's a way cleaner and better set up option that the hacked way Link2SD works. No offense to the app as it is very useful in many situations, but Adoptive Storage is a feature made by Google and is built into Android 6+ but for some phones has to be enabled via ADB commands or an app (that just automates the process for you). AS makes it so your phone sees your SD card as the internal storage and works just like it. You should have a fast SD card for this to work best. Like SDXC type. Don't use a regular class 4 SD card.
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Hello! Thanks for the reply and I guess I have no choice. I did adoptive storage and the app you gave worked well! But my adopted storage and SD card has the same name and confuses me at times. Is there a way to rename it? Also, how can I move apps from my internal to adopted? And is there a way to automatically install apps on adopted? Thank you!
My understanding is that once you have the adoptive storage set correctly then the phone should register that as part of the regular phone's storage.
I formatted SD card as internal storage (Android 6.0) and it is confusing...
I read that when the SD card is formatted as internal storage, it is also encrypted, so it can't be accessed trough windows for file transfer (if not rooted). OK, so I thought, there must be some practical way to transfer files such as books, movies, music, etc. from PC to SD card...
I tried to make some folder (for instance, BOOKS) on my tablets internal memory, transfer the files in that BOOKS folder, then move that BOOKS folder to SD card. But, I can't find the location of the SD card, so there is nowhere to move that BOOKS folder.
1) What is the SD card folder location, if there exists one?
2) Is there some practical way to transfer files from PC to SD card?
3) What does "Migrate data" option actually migrates, APK's, pictures, videos,...? And how does it decide what is suitable for migration, on what criteria?
4) Is there a way to pick which files would be transferred to SD card?
You correctly pointed out that the systems treats the SD card like internal storage. If your smartphone is running and you connect it via an usb cable to your pc, you will only see one folder. You can now copy something to your device and it is on your device. Basically, "SD card like internal storage" means that your internal storage has been extended by your SD card.
Simply said, there is only "one" storage. Your SD card ist now part of the internal storage. Usually, this is a great advantage as it takes away the limitations of a small internal storage.
However, the downside is:
- you must not take the SD card out of the phone and copy something. This will break the memory.
- you cannot pick what is stored where - Android decides this.
- you can only copy something to the pc via usb cable, bluetooth or network, you must not take the sd card out of the device.
The upside is:
You can stop worrying about where to copy what - Android decides this for you. So lean back and enjoy your new memory capabilities.
Paul2017 said:
You correctly pointed out that the systems treats the SD card like internal storage. If your smartphone is running and you connect it via an usb cable to your pc, you will only see one folder. You can now copy something to your device and it is on your device. Basically, "SD card like internal storage" means that your internal storage has been extended by your SD card.
Simply said, there is only "one" storage. Your SD card ist now part of the internal storage. Usually, this is a great advantage as it takes away the limitations of a small internal storage.
However, the downside is:
- you must not take the SD card out of the phone and copy something. This will break the memory.
- you cannot pick what is stored where - Android decides this.
- you can only copy something to the pc via usb cable, bluetooth or network, you must not take the sd card out of the device.
The upside is:
You can stop worrying about where to copy what - Android decides this for you. So lean back and enjoy your new memory capabilities.
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Thanks for the reply. I converted it to portable storage as I find it much more convenient. With adoptable storage, the biggest downside is, as you mentioned, that I can't pick to choose what can I store on my SD card. Dedicated SD card is not an issue, as I never (and a vast majority of users) wanted to pull it out of device.
Migrate data is a terrible option, almost no control, undefined behaviour. Generally, the way that Google engineers handled the adoptive storage option is amateurish.
Also, I noticed now, why did they remove the sort by size and sort by date filters in settings--->apps on Android 6.0???
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Thanks for the reply. I converted it to portable storage as I find it much more convenient. With adoptable storage, the biggest downside is, as you mentioned, that I can't pick to choose what can I store on my SD card. Dedicated SD card is not an issue, as I never (and a vast majority of users) wanted to pull it out of device.
Migrate data is a terrible option, almost no control, undefined behaviour. Generally, the way that Google engineers handled the adoptive storage option is amateurish.
Also, I noticed now, why did they remove the sort by size and sort by date filters in settings--->apps on Android 6.0???
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You are right, I just had a look at my Nexus 7 running lineageOS 14.1 (Android 7.1): you cannot sort the apps by size. Don't ask me why.