I am new to using apps like (PARAGON NTFS MOUNTER) to handle my data on SD card
Initially my problem started with my galaxt note 10.1 (p8000) when it couldn't read files with non-ascii names on re-mount (or restart), that's why i re-formatted my 64GB Sd card into NTFS and started using paragon's app
THE MAIN PROBLEM:
Since Paragon NTFS mounter requires root, seems like all apps requiring root or dealing with root are able to recognize files on SD card, this doesn't seem to be the way with apps which don't require root previliges (by nature)... like CAMERA or GALLERY or PHOTOS.
These apps don't require any kind of root, assuming you're working with an exFAT SD card. So now with the new file system CAMERA APP no longer seems to be able to write into the card. Haven't really explored a lot of apps to see and compare but this seems fair enough. I have to save all my camera work into device or find a way to bypass this paradox...
Wanted to share this thought with all of you and know if anything comes to your mind to override this paradox
Thanks
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I have a HTC Flyer and have nearly filled up the sdcard memory and would like to use the sdcard2 memory.
The flyer has 16 GB of memory. The 16G of memory is partitioned into 3.9 GB internal partition and a 8.7 GB external partition (sdcard). I also have a 32 GB of exteranal removeable memory (sdcard2). The sdcard is nearly full and the sdcard2 is empty. How do I make use of the sdcard2?
For example I would like to move google play music files from sdcard to sdcard2.
Is there an app that will move the music files? Will the google play music app find the music files on the sdcard2 or is there something I have to do to force the use of the sdcard2?
I can mount the flyer on my PC and find the 2 sdcards and I can move the files from card to card. I'm just not sure if it's that simple and what rules are required as far as paths, etc are required on the sdcard2.
It seems like a simple problem that should have a well documented answer, but I haven't found any information in google searches?
An additional comment. Does the removable 32 GB card need some type of special formatting. I believe the card was format when I purchased it. Last night I erased it in the Flyer. I couldn't find an option to format it in Flyer so I formatted in my PC.
RonD45 said:
I have a HTC Flyer and have nearly filled up the sdcard memory and would like to use the sdcard2 memory.
The flyer has 16 GB of memory. The 16G of memory is partitioned into 3.9 GB internal partition and a 8.7 GB external partition (sdcard). I also have a 32 GB of exteranal removeable memory (sdcard2). The sdcard is nearly full and the sdcard2 is empty. How do I make use of the sdcard2?
For example I would like to move google play music files from sdcard to sdcard2.
Is there an app that will move the music files? Will the google play music app find the music files on the sdcard2 or is there something I have to do to force the use of the sdcard2?
I can mount the flyer on my PC and find the 2 sdcards and I can move the files from card to card. I'm just not sure if it's that simple and what rules are required as far as paths, etc are required on the sdcard2.
It seems like a simple problem that should have a well documented answer, but I haven't found any information in google searches?
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Not sure about the new Google Play app but the older one had no way to choose sdcard2 to store/use files. If they have not built this feature into the app yet than you may have to use a workaround such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
As for just your standard media files (music, videos, pictures) you would like to open via default apps on your tablet, just drag and drop from internal to external via USB or file manager. Doesn't really matter where you put them as long as you can find them. Just create a directory structure that makes sense to you.
RonD45 said:
An additional comment. Does the removable 32 GB card need some type of special formatting. I believe the card was format when I purchased it. Last night I erased it in the Flyer. I couldn't find an option to format it in Flyer so I formatted in my PC.
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If you just use the standard Fat32 format on the PC the card should work just fine.
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question on moving data. The Flyer has an app "locations". It stores all of the points of interest and is about 3 or 4 GB. The points of interest are located at sdcard/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... Can I just usb drag them to sdcard2/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... and will the locations/navgator app find the data? I don't understand how the app knows where to look for it's data and use it. Does it just know to look on both sdcards?
Sort of sucks how google messed up the mp3 files in google play music so other music player apps can't find and use them.
I tried moving the locations files it and it said the files were out of date or missing so I guess that didn't work.
My Flyer is box stock. I never took any updates because I was afraid of not being able to root if I took an update (I got burned on the EVO 4G Gingerbread update).
What is the best method to root the Flyer? Is there a ROM that will let me run apps and store there data on the removable SD card? Are you using a custom ROM and do you have a recommended ROM?
RonD45 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have another question on moving data. The Flyer has an app "locations". It stores all of the points of interest and is about 3 or 4 GB. The points of interest are located at sdcard/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... Can I just usb drag them to sdcard2/.data/navigator/Data/Maps/... and will the locations/navgator app find the data? I don't understand how the app knows where to look for it's data and use it. Does it just know to look on both sdcards?
Sort of sucks how google messed up the mp3 files in google play music so other music player apps can't find and use them.
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Yep. Can't move that data. The app won't find it unless you can try the link I sent you for that program that re-routes the paths but you will need root to use it.
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I tried moving the locations files it and it said the files were out of date or missing so I guess that didn't work.
My Flyer is box stock. I never took any updates because I was afraid of not being able to root if I took an update (I got burned on the EVO 4G Gingerbread update).
What is the best method to root the Flyer? Is there a ROM that will let me run apps and store there data on the removable SD card? Are you using a custom ROM and do you have a recommended ROM?
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Keeping data for apps on sdcard2 is going to cause you nothing but trouble. If that card is unmounted you may end up having to re-install all those apps for them to work. As far as I know there is not a rom that will allow this to happen. Only thing I can suggest is to get all the media files you can onto your ext. sdcard to free up some space or start using a cloud service.
If you want to root your Flyer use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194709 Make sure you have a qualifying hboot version otherwise you have to do some extra prep work first.
I have the same problem. I'm using a 64gb card and the tablet will not store anything on it. Mine is labeled sd-ext. It act like it needs a2sd installed to work. But that's not possible with out root.
Lame
I mostly use my SD2 card for movies. I'm not really seeing anything that uses it other than the camera, I think (there's a DCIM folder there).
I know on most other (2-sd card) android devices, you can actually switch which sd card is 1 and which is 2 by editing the vold on the device. I am not sure if this works on the flyer, and have no real reason to try this myself, but if some brave soul is willing to test it out, I can provide instructions.
PS: if anyone has already tried this, and found it lacking, please let us know before I suggest that someone do something stupid
Sorry, Have been away for a while. I would be interested in the instructions to edit the vold. Could you send me a link to instructions or the instructions. Has anyone else tried the vold change?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm on a S4 (I9505) phone and a lot of media files and also nandroid files are disappering from the sdcard (SDXC 64Gb).
Yes, deleted. Most probably mounting and unmounting the sdcard, or rebooting, are removing the nandroid and media files.
I've used both TWRP and Phip recoveries. They work only if I unmount the storage card and reboot. Otherwise, in the first reboot, file are gone.
Some users here in xda say we need to use short backup names. But it did not work for me.
Maybe it should be solved by the ROM side. But I'm not lucky and not finding a way to get a solution, not even using different kernel versions. Changing the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission suggested in many sites does not solve the issue (http://www.androidcentral.com/androi...ere-workaround). New ROMs seems to have incorporated this solution, but the problem is still there.
I also not being able to change the permissions for the mnt folder as suggested elsewhere here in xda. The operation (even my phone rooted with SuperSu) is not sucessful.
External SDcard is useless if we cannot trust on it.
Any developer could say if this problem has any solution?
Thanks.
Tested with the sdcard formated with exFat and NTFS. My ROM does not support these formats.
Return to FAT32.
Copied all files to sdcard via Windows.
When I mount (insert) the sdcard, ALL FILES (MEDIA, NANDROIDS, BACKUPS...) ARE GONE. THANKS GOOGLE FOR MAKING SUCH INTELLIGENT THING.
If anybody knows a kernel that fixes this mess (and work at S4 phone), please, help me. Thanks.
Hi,
Have the same issue with my galaxy s3 with cm11 and nightly android 4.4.3
The problem exists since 4.4.2. i hoped that a nightly update fix this problem but it didnt
My SD Card is Fat32 and a Sandisk 64gb high speed card.
Everytime if i create a file or a folder on the extrernal sd card , my files get ****ed/deleted after reboot. The old files are copied / created before this problem are still there and usable.
Any help/hints from someone who solved this problem ? Or is this a gift from google for us :crying::crying:
Hi guys,
I have android kitkat 4.4.4, which is OS that has disabled function of moving large app data (obb files) to external SD card. My device is Huawei Ascend G620S-L01 (same as Honor 4 Play). I have root. I am browsing this and other forums for 2 days. I tried several solutions, but each has a issue. I tried each type of solution with more apps so that I can be sure, there is no problem in the app:
- Clean master says that my device does not allow to move apps to SD.
- System app uninstaller told me there is no need to transfer data, because sd card is shared (wtf?). I tried some more apps that should transfer app data.
- SD unlockers - I thought there would be a need to unlock my sd card, it was written on some forum, so I tried. It went successful, but still nothing was able to transfer app data to sd card.
Then I read about mounting, so I tried several programs. All of them had same issue - the game was looking for its data and trying to download them, eventhough they had been mounted. More people with different devices, had same problem, but most of them were just running game unmounted, or without reboot. I tried reboot and also checked mount before running a game.
I hope I was just doing something wrong and it will be possible to store apps on my SD. One guy had a solution for this, he wrote two scripts to overwrite something that I did not understand, but they made it possible to store obb data on SD card and also made apps look for them on SD (I have no problems to transfer data manually, but no app will look for them on external SD). Please, is there any solution for me?
EDIT: My phone has also emulated SD card, but I need to transfer it to external SD.
root?
chnapo said:
Hi guys,
I have android kitkat 4.4.4, which is OS that has disabled function of moving large app data (obb files) to external SD card. My device is Huawei Ascend G620S-L01 (same as Honor 4 Play). I have root. I am browsing this and other forums for 2 days. I tried several solutions, but each has a issue. I tried each type of solution with more apps so that I can be sure, there is no problem in the app:
- Clean master says that my device does not allow to move apps to SD.
- System app uninstaller told me there is no need to transfer data, because sd card is shared (wtf?). I tried some more apps that should transfer app data.
- SD unlockers - I thought there would be a need to unlock my sd card, it was written on some forum, so I tried. It went successful, but still nothing was able to transfer app data to sd card.
Then I read about mounting, so I tried several programs. All of them had same issue - the game was looking for its data and trying to download them, eventhough they had been mounted. More people with different devices, had same problem, but most of them were just running game unmounted, or without reboot. I tried reboot and also checked mount before running a game.
I hope I was just doing something wrong and it will be possible to store apps on my SD. One guy had a solution for this, he wrote two scripts to overwrite something that I did not understand, but they made it possible to store obb data on SD card and also made apps look for them on SD (I have no problems to transfer data manually, but no app will look for them on external SD). Please, is there any solution for me?
EDIT: My phone has also emulated SD card, but I need to transfer it to external SD.
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Hi, I can't help you but was hoping you could help me. What rooting method did you use. I have already unlocked my bootloader. Thanks
Hi folks,
I own a Padfone S, and the thing which bothered me about it when I got it was that it (like every KitKat device) uses MTP protocol for transfer of files to PC instead of USB mass storage (UMS), which in my opinion is a really good thing with regard to the phone's internal storage, but which was a really bad decision by google with regard to external SD cards.
It took me a really long time of googling and trying things I found on the internet until I finally found something that works for me, so I thought maybe I write my solution down here for others to find. All the apps I could find on XDA developers for that purpose didn't work for me, probably because they were written for different phones (what I could find here were apps for Sony, Samsung and LG devices).
What you need:
a rooted Padfone S (probably works on X as well)
an app called "USBMounter_v1.1_Panda"
For your convenience, I have attached the app. Now, what's funny about this app is that I couldn't find any reference to it on any of the sites written in a language I understand (English, German and a bit of French), I just happened to find this app while googling by accident, seems to be written by some Chinese or Taiwanese guy. I thought this was noteworthy, as of course I can't tell you anything about the app's origin, reputation or license, since I don't understand a word of what's written on any of the sites which have this file, but since it's publicly available on so many mirror sites, I think it's okay to share it with you. But keep in mind, use at your own risk (I personally didn't see any signs of malicious behaviour).
How to make it work:
install app
unmount your external SD card
enable USB debugging
open app, and set switch to UMS
connect your device to PC
You will see your SD card in your Windows explorer as a drive with a drive letter, just the way it used to be with every Android device in the good old days.
Now, it is VERY important that you unmount your SD card from your device BEFORE using it with your computer! If you forget that, the SD card will still appear in your Windows PC's Explorer, and at first file operations seem to be carried out normally, but you'll soon end up with inconsistencies in your file system! Sort of makes sense anyway, two devices accessing a file system at the same time doesn't seem to be a good idea.
Unfortunately, I still haven't found a working widget to mount/unmount my SD card, so I always have to go to the settings screen to do that. I tried the "Switch Pro" widget from the Playstore, which supposedly has a mount/unmount functionality, but that doesn't work with the Padfone S, when I tap the relevant button, nothing at all happens. So if anyone knows of a solution to mount/unmount SD card with a shortcut, feel free to post it here.
Finally, two more pieces of information:
My Padfone is on the latest stock rom (UL-ASUS_T00N-WW-11.10.7.18-user), the only changes I have made to my phone is rooting (of course), and chaning the recovery to ClockworkMod.
My SD card is a 128GB MicroSDXC, formatted in NTFS. The Padfone is able to handle this SD card, both size and NTFS file system do not cause any problems at all.
Well, I hope my post can help a few people who want to make the most of the Padfone's SD card slot. ^^
Have a nice day!
I know Android M has a new way to connect external sd cards, you can convert the external memory into internal memory but this is not what I need. The alternative is that only some directories are write-enabled on the sdcard but this in turn is not enough.
Starting with Kitkat (also working on Lollipop) there was a hack allowing you to use an external sd as read/write storage.
This hack no longer seems to work with marshmallow, if you go searching for sdcard fix you'll find that this fix does not work on Marshmallow.
Are there already apps fixing this problem ( no problem if root access is required since my phone is rooted).
Android 6.0 isn't yet available for my Xperia Z3 Compact but when it becomes available I'd like to have a way to go around this problem.
If it doesn't yet exist do you know names of developers working an such a fix?
+1.
However, for me the problem is immediate: I have a rooted HTC One M8 with a 64GB external SD card that I've recently upgraded to Marshmallow. Like many of you, thanks to rooting I was able to work around Google's SD card handling changes introduced in 4.4 KitKat, and the same fix worked in 5.0.
But I'm having serious deja vu with 6.0, because it seems the behavior is back to being much like KitKat again: Apps can only write to their own private folder under /data on the SD card. But unlike KitKat, I've found no simple workaround like editing a system XML file.
Some apps like ES File Explorer have a special 'root mode' option that enables them to write to any folder of both internal and external storage. For other non-root apps, there is a convoluted workaround the first time the user tries to use the SD card where the user must authorize writing to any folder by selecting the root folder of the SD card from a folder tree. The permission seems to 'stick' after that, but I don't know if it survives a reboot?
So I'm also wondering if any bright devs are working on a more general root workaround like we had for KitKat, perhaps as an Xposed module? And in the meantime, does anyone know what's happening behind the scenes when an app uses the "choose the SD card root folder" solution? Where is that new permission being defined/stored?
Assuming the additional SD card write permission is indeed persistent (or could somehow be saved and restored after a reboot), could we manually add similar permission for other apps that don't include the solution? For example, the QuickPic gallery app does have it, so I can now move and rename images from any SD card folder. But the Dolphin browser doesn't, so when I try to download a file to the SD card, I can only choose the single Dolphin-owned folder. (This wasn't a problem in Lollipop - but Dolphin now gives me a helpful explanation blaming Google for the restrictions added in KitKat, even though I'm two major releases past KK...). Until/if Dolphin adds code similar to QuickPic, it would sure be great if I could manually add a similar permission. I've spent hours searching, but haven't discovered anything. So any ideas would be very welcome!
No response in months. Is this xposed module what you guys needed? Or have you found other workarounds?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-marshmallow-sd-fix-write-t3403263
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I know Android M has a new way to connect external sd cards, you can convert the external memory into internal memory but this is not what I need. The alternative is that only some directories are write-enabled on the sdcard but this in turn is not enough.
Starting with Kitkat (also working on Lollipop) there was a hack allowing you to use an external sd as read/write storage.
This hack no longer seems to work with marshmallow, if you go searching for sdcard fix you'll find that this fix does not work on Marshmallow.
Are there already apps fixing this problem ( no problem if root access is required since my phone is rooted).
Android 6.0 isn't yet available for my Xperia Z3 Compact but when it becomes available I'd like to have a way to go around this problem.
If it doesn't yet exist do you know names of developers working an such a fix?
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I've exactly the same problem! Has anybody got a solution?
There is a fix have a look at https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/fix-extsd-fix-v1-0b-2016-01-18-t3296266
this fix works for marshmallow and nougat