I currently have a rooted HTC Evo 4G LTE with Sprint, the contract is over and Sprint no longer wants to offer unlimited data. So it is time for me to find a new provider, a new phone.
Which provider has the best 4G LTE signal, which would be the best phone.
My requirements are that the phone be able to be rooted, and that I have control of the bootloader.
As far as I know HTC is the only bootloader that you can have control.
I think I want to go with T-Mobile, since they have a sensible unlimited plan...which would be the best phone for this project.
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I currently have a rooted HTC Evo 4G LTE with Sprint, the contract is over and Sprint no longer wants to offer unlimited data. So it is time for me to find a new provider, a new phone.
Which provider has the best 4G LTE signal, which would be the best phone.
My requirements are that the phone be able to be rooted, and that I have control of the bootloader.
As far as I know HTC is the only bootloader that you can have control.
I think I want to go with T-Mobile, since they have a sensible unlimited plan...which would be the best phone for this project.
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I switched over to T-Mobile and a n5. Fabulous coverage and insane speeds. Although of course T-Mobile coverage isn't as great as Verizon and AT&T. Check sensorly for your area. But I do highly recommend T-Mobile. Also, Nexus boot loader isn't controllable. But the amount of development for the device is through the roof. If you're a flashaholic like me, then the n5 is the phone for you.
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bgduece22 said:
I currently have a rooted HTC Evo 4G LTE with Sprint, the contract is over and Sprint no longer wants to offer unlimited data. So it is time for me to find a new provider, a new phone.
Which provider has the best 4G LTE signal, which would be the best phone.
My requirements are that the phone be able to be rooted, and that I have control of the bootloader.
As far as I know HTC is the only bootloader that you can have control.
I think I want to go with T-Mobile, since they have a sensible unlimited plan...which would be the best phone for this project.
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Why is sprint making you change your plan? Did you go to the store? Because upgrading doesn't always entail a new plan, if you went to the store they may be trying to sell you more than the phone. Just my 2 cents.
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Maybe they were promoting their new Easy Pay plans.
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Maybe they were promoting their new Easy Pay plans.
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Sounds like it.
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Maybe they were promoting their new Easy Pay plans.
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That's exactly what they're doing. However, contact Sprint before you purchase a new phone and inform them that you would like to be grandfathered into your old plan. From what I was told, this can be done, but only BEFORE you purchase a new phone.
Given, you'll still deal with the Easy Pay, but same plan. You could also possibly just get your phone from Best Buy Mobile and still get a phone under the normal discounted rates for a two year plan.
I've heard that the Easy Pay is the new plan for everyone, and Sprint with no longer issue contracts, but month-to-month service. Payments for your phone will be divided over a course of 2yrs, I think, but it is not the same as an actual plan. You will have to pay the remaining balance for you phone as opposed to a termination fee.
I'm not sure how I feel about that...they told me that I can upgrade through Easy Pay, but I need to speak to them in person to find out the actual details and the benefits.
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I've heard that the Easy Pay is the new plan for everyone, and Sprint with no longer issue contracts, but month-to-month service. Payments for your phone will be divided over a course of 2yrs, I think, but it is not the same as an actual plan. You will have to pay the remaining balance for you phone as opposed to a termination fee.
I'm not sure how I feel about that...they told me that I can upgrade through Easy Pay, but I need to speak to them in person to find out the actual details and the benefits.
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From what I've just experienced, you don't have to do easy pay. I changed my plan to the new "my way" plan and I can get my upgraded device anyway I want. I could use easy pay or purchase it outright at the discounted rate. I also have the option to use a third party vendor, like wirefly or on Amazon, which is what I'm doing. With easy pay, as it was explained to me by sprint rep, you pay a small amount up front. Then they bill you monthly, over 24 months and you end up paying full (non discounted) price for the device you choose. But I didn't have to change my plan, I chose to.
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From what I've just experienced, you don't have to do easy pay. I changed my plan to the new "my way" plan and I can get my upgraded device anyway I want. I could use easy pay or purchase it outright at the discounted rate. I also have the option to use a third party vendor, like wirefly or on Amazon, which is what I'm doing. With easy pay, as it was explained to me by sprint rep, you pay a small amount up front. Then they bill you monthly, over 24 months and you end up paying full (non discounted) price for the device you choose. But I didn't have to change my plan, I chose to.
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Easy Pay sounds similar to the now-defunct "One-Up" plan. I believe you had to pay the taxes on the full, non-discounted price up front when upgrading, and then paying for the phone over the next two years, as I recall. Any remaining balance at the end of the two year period had to be paid in full.
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I'm kind of hesitant to switch to another carrier mainly because of what is going on with a merger between them and T-mobile. T-mobile recently bought all of Verizon's 700MHz bandwidth, meaning better LTE coverage for Sprint as soon as the merger goes through, if it goes through at all.
I am skeptical about the success of the merger. Sprint will finally be a powerhouse, and I don't think that the regulators want that to happen.
I'm curious about what all the last 2 posters are privy to. I'm about to upgrade my device, and when I look on sprint site, it would be only 100$ for n5 or HTC One. But I went to sprint store and it was 50$ + 16/no and get 12/mo upgrade, but will also F up all other lines on my family plan. I don't wanna pay monthly for device, I wanna pay up front and forget about it, but I do want 12moupgrades.
All that said,on a 25mi trip, I just compared my LTE speed tests with my girls tmo speed tests, and hers were consistently higher than mine. And her device is a 4yr old pyramid that doesn't even have radios to accept tmo LTE. But hers kicked my ass. I wanna hear from anyone who has ideas on how to test them, or any secret info about why they think sprint may be about to be awesome. Again, while my LTE service speed tested about 3mbps on avg, her old tmo (no LTE) consistently got way better than my LTE in same places.
Word love tohearsome thoughts,cuz I'm ready to jump ship.
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I'm curious about what all the last 2 posters are privy to. I'm about to upgrade my device, and when I look on sprint site, it would be only 100$ for n5 or HTC One. But I went to sprint store and it was 50$ + 16/no and get 12/mo upgrade, but will also F up all other lines on my family plan. I don't wanna pay monthly for device, I wanna pay up front and forget about it, but I do want 12moupgrades.
All that said,on a 25mi trip, I just compared my LTE speed tests with my girls tmo speed tests, and hers were consistently higher than mine. And her device is a 4yr old pyramid that doesn't even have radios to accept tmo LTE. But hers kicked my ass. I wanna hear from anyone who has ideas on how to test them, or any secret info about why they think sprint may be about to be awesome. Again, while my LTE service speed tested about 3mbps on avg, her old tmo (no LTE) consistently got way better than my LTE in same places.
Word love tohearsome thoughts,cuz I'm ready to jump ship.
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My thoughts on this: if the merge was ever to come to pass, then you would technically be starting over as a new customer with Sprint. While I don't think that the merge will be successful, just keep that in the back of your mind.
More importantly, how is voice service with Tmo compared to Sprint? Which had more dead/low signal zones? And which device gives you better service at home? Yes, data is vital, but these are still phones, primarily. You have no idea how much you need good voice service until it starts to mess up, then you'll wish that you didn't make the jump.
Try using different apps, like SignalCheck Lite from the play store to compare the signal difference in various locations. Use both phones to leave voicemails on a third phone (land line or cell phone, doesn't matter), and replay both to see which is clearer. This last test will be a little skewed, of course, since you are using two different devices, and your LTE has newer tech inside it.
Lastly, if you want to make the jump, just take the time to test the Tmo network (or any other network) before you decide. This is not the type of mistake that you will want to regret. On another note, if the money being saved is worth the potential aggravation, then go for it. I'm not bashing Tmo in any way whatsoever, for I have been considering making the jump as well, but I'm quite comfortable with my Sprint service, and the repair center that I go to tends not to ask too much questions. Just don't bring them a rooted phone, and all is well.
Appreciate the lengthy feedback. My nearest sprint repair center loves seeing the cool sh1t on the ROMs I bring in, lol. Lucky me. That said, tmo looks like it'd be a little cheaper, not much. But their data speeds, even on 3g are 20x faster than the LTE I get from sprint. So many pros, so many Con's. Actually, they'll pay my etf, and there aren't many Con's. Prob be switching soo. And yearly upgrades, which I like. That said, I like that sprint leans on OEMZs t9 get the hardware they know customers want.
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Appreciate the lengthy feedback. My nearest sprint repair center loves seeing the cool sh1t on the ROMs I bring in, lol. Lucky me. That said, tmo looks like it'd be a little cheaper, not much. But their data speeds, even on 3g are 20x faster than the LTE I get from sprint. So many pros, so many Con's. Actually, they'll pay my etf, and there aren't many Con's. Prob be switching soo. And yearly upgrades, which I like. That said, I like that sprint leans on OEMZs t9 get the hardware they know customers want.
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You've sparked my interest. How does T-Mobile do data? Is it truly unlimited? Or do they cap your speed after a certain usage?
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why is Sprint still advertising and selling WiMAX phones? especially for my zip code that not only dose not have it and never will! why on earth should someone pay $99.00 for evo3d, marry sprint for 2 years knowing darn well they will be forced to break contract! where is the FCC or there consumer groups?
seriously, there has to be a law. now if they gave them away, no contract, and no $10 data monthly, that would ale sense.
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They still sell them cuz their wimax is still in use and they don't have any lte phones yet. So no it isn't illegal.
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They're juuuust beginning to roll out LTE, and Wimax is in far more places right now.
Besides, sprint can't just throw all their existing phone inventory in the trash, especially when there are so few (if any?) LTE phones available yet.
No LTE phones, WiMax is still up. LTE won't even be large for another two years.
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No LTE phones, WiMax is still up. LTE won't even be large for another two years.
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what happens when I sign 2 year marriage and you shut down in 1.5 years? sucks cause that are what they are doing!
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They are keeping WiMax up until 2015. They've already nixed any new WiMax phones this year. Everyone will be out of contract by the time they bring WiMax down.
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They are keeping WiMax up until 2015. They've already nixed any new WiMax phones this year. Everyone will be out of contract by the time they bring WiMax down.
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This is exactly right. WiMax will be up until everyone's contract is up. I believe they stopped bringing more WiMax phones also.
So by 2015 WIMAX will be completely down?
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No idea. All we know is that they signed agreements with clearwire to keep it running until 2015.
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so the question remains, what happens to my Photon (or any WiMAX device) in 2015? What if I want to keep Photon? I used to work with a guy that had a 10 year old Sprint phone with SIM card (I know cause I lost 10 bucks to him!), maybe I want to keep photon for 10 years.
my point is, your double screwed by Sprint!!! You get screwed by Sprint by paying for a phone that everyone knows will be worthless in 2015. Then in 2015 your forced to pay them (or another carrier) again because what you have is junk?
im fairly sure what its gunna turn into (look at iden for proof) is that all the towers with wimax will have it until either they need that slot for something else, or the wimax card dies...
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so the question remains, what happens to my Photon (or any WiMAX device) in 2015? What if I want to keep Photon? I used to work with a guy that had a 10 year old Sprint phone with SIM card (I know cause I lost 10 bucks to him!), maybe I want to keep photon for 10 years.
my point is, your double screwed by Sprint!!! You get screwed by Sprint by paying for a phone that everyone knows will be worthless in 2015. Then in 2015 your forced to pay them (or another carrier) again because what you have is junk?
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Why would the Photon be junk/worthless just because of no Wimax? If what you are saying is true then my Photon (along with many others) is worthless right now because my area never has had nor will ever get Wimax. I still find it very useful and a great phone without it.
Sprint cannot continue to support older products forever. If they did then there wouldn't be enough money to put into newer technologies and therefore could not stay competitive. This is why everyone offers upgrade credits/new devices to customers after a few years. Sprint is no different than say, for example, Samsung, which released new model TVs every 4 months and drop support for older models around 6 months - 1 year. It sucks for the consumer but to keep up with competition they must pursue new technology and provide it to the public in a timely fashion. Old products don't make the money, newer products do.
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Old products don't make the money, newer products do.
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That theroy is wack and I can prove it!! I'm 50 years old and went to Vegas and my "Old Product" worked just fine with and without the blue pill upgrade!!!!
It would be nice if we were offered the option to upgrade Photon, even if it cost $$$If you notice, you rarely see me in the Development Section here. I dont change ROMS every other day like some. Once I get my phone how "I" like it and it works, I leave it alone!
Well, maybe I'm missing the point here...but...I'm in the Midwest in a city (of almost 1M people) that was promised Wimax 4G 14 months ago. Sprint 4G has never come here. We even were shown on their coverage maps as 'Coming Soon'. My Photon works just fine on 3G & Wifi...I turned my 4G radio on once just to see if 4G was here, nada.
After 2015, when Wimax is turned off, my Photon will work just as it does today.
(BTW...I'm happy to continue to pay $10/mo so Sprint can build out 2 4g networks for all of you, while ignoring us entirely. Sarcasm intended.)
So...you might feel screwed in 2015...every bill I pay today...I pay to build out 2 4G networks that I might see by 2015 when you've started to feel pissed off. At least you'll have options for 4G phones that will work, and likely Free Phone options by then...I don't even have that option.
I mean, 3 years from now, who knows what technologies will be on our phones by then? Phones will likely be completely different, making our Photons dinosaurs, just like the Pre in my desk drawer...
The photon would become a 3g only worldphone until Sprint converts all of its spectrum to LTE.
You are paying the extra $10 for unlimited data. Sprint is the best bang for buck national carrier. Once you put it in those terms, you'll feel better about it.
All of the carriers are migrating to LTE-only. You're not going to have a mobile phone last you 10 years anymore regardless of carrier.
The good news is that your wireless experience is going to improve more often.
Stop crying about it.
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@dorelse, exactly my point! I buy a new car with navigation system, when car arrives it dose not have it and im promised they will get it. then you tell me that option is not available?
the above would not be bad BUT, by selling WiMAX sprint knows for a fact people in areas like ours don't have it and never will! take out the 4G promise. cool but now they are false advertising!
JMO!
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You still get WiMax wherever it's available. It's not false advertising. You have a choice. Would you rather pay $300 for a Verizon phone that has bloatware, overpriced plans, unstable 4G network that goes down every month, data caps, and crappy battery life? How about an AT&T phone with data caps and crappy service? Maybe a t-mobile phone with throttled data speeds from a carrier that might not exist in 2 years?
You bought a phone that can be used anywhere in the world. You got a WORLDPHONE for the same price as any other top-shelf device Sprint offers even though it has the capability of having superfast data speeds in certain areas. You are paying a relatively low price for unlimited phone data which no other US carrier offers anymore. You can even use this phone as a netbook, nettop, and media center without paying extra plan charges.
Seriously, get a grip.
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I will tell you this and that's that I agree with you 110%. As someone who lives in an area that was promised 4G service by the end of 2010 and still does not have it and never will, I think Sprint sucks balls and has a lot of guts charging "premium data" charges. I pay the same amount as someone in L.A. who has 4G but they get much faster service. Is it fair? No. is there anything that the FCC or anyone else will do about it? Probably not but I do have a suggestion and I am willing to bet would work at some point. Someone needs to find a lawyer that is willing to take on a Class Action case and then the print customers who dont truly receive any "premium data" can join in and get compensated. If anyone wants to do it I'm in for sure.
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You still get WiMax wherever it's available. It's not false advertising. You have a choice. Would you rather pay $300 for a Verizon phone that has bloatware, overpriced plans, unstable 4G network that goes down every month, data caps, and crappy battery life? How about an AT&T phone with data caps and crappy service? Maybe a t-mobile phone with throttled data speeds from a carrier that might not exist in 2 years?
You bought a phone that can be used anywhere in the world. You got a WORLDPHONE for the same price as any other top-shelf device Sprint offers even though it has the capability of having superfast data speeds in certain areas. You are paying a relatively low price for unlimited phone data which no other US carrier offers anymore. You can even use this phone as a netbook, nettop, and media center without paying extra plan charges.
Seriously, get a grip.
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He's got a valid point especially about the premium data charges we all pay and dont all receive service for. Sprint claims they are because of the phones capabilities but they have phones that do not incur the charges and have some of the same data results on 3G. Premium data should only apply to 4G areas. Bottom line.
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He's got a valid point especially about the premium data charges we all pay and dont all receive service for. Sprint claims they are because of the phones capabilities but they have phones that do not incur the charges and have some of the same data results on 3G. Premium data should only apply to 4G areas. Bottom line.
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Makes a point but the $10/month extra is not for WiMax but unlimited data whether it be 3g/4g. At least, that is what Sprint tells us even though the WiMax data is what really costs them the most.
As far as I know there is only one Android phone in Sprint's lineup that doesn't incur the extra charge which is the Samsung Replenish and that was set to change anytime if it hasn't already.
But put all that aside for a moment, even with the extra 10/month it is still a cheaper plan than anyone else. If they weren't already charging the extra 10 I would bet their rates would have been raised already to cover it so the point is basically moot.
The stock part of my phones says 3g .. But the custom rom says 1x ... Sucks when it says you're covered but really not.. And please let's not start on 4g..
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Seen so many *****es about Sprint I thought I'd share.
Only company with unlimited data.
Only company with SERO (I have original SERO and SERO Premium).
Even without SERO my daughter and my sister both switched from Verizon and got very close to SERO Premium prices.
So I have one phone on SERO original that is qualified for upgrade.
And by wobbly EVO 3D (due to VM leak, at no fault of Sprints, just mine) that is not qualified for upgrade for some time on SERO Premium.
So I used the chat to ask if I could use Touch PRO 2 upgrade for an EVO 4G LTE to replace the EVO 3D.
She said yes. But I lose the return policy and any mail in rebate.
Turns out it's all instant Rebate.
Then I asked if I upgrade it on the Touch PRO 2 (online) will it force me to upgrade it's plan.
She said no.
I said I was worried it might change it.
And she came back and asked me if it was on SERO.
She knew exactly what I was worried about. I had not given them any account info.
It only changes the plan when you activate. And I will activate it on my EVO 3D line.
She also said if I did it in a store (I think because it's SERO) it would of upgraded the plan.
I forgot to save discussion. But they emailed it to me !!!
I did the online upgrade and it stated exactly what she said that the plan would not upgrade unless activated on that line. Very clearly layed.
It clearly showed no plan change.
Excellent service !!!
Not the fasted network. But good enough for my needs and doesn't break the bank.
And usually offers great phones.
A lot of times you here about the shortcomings of Sprint so its good to hear the opposite side of the coin sometimes. Glad to hear everything worked out for ya.
I dont get the point of this post.
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I dont get the point of this post.
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How could you not, you meant to say this post does not interest you so you're going to add a pointless post.
Glad you had a good experience with them, mine was unsatisfactory
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its good to know everything worked out for you.. i wish i had that sorta of luck
So Sprint did what should be expected and that is commendable? Lol
Look at it this way, if it was T-Mobile, you would have just had to pop in the SIM card. No call (or chat), no activation, no concern for plan changes.
Not saying T-Mobile is great, just saying Sprint shouldn't be commended for doing the bare minimum.
You had a line due for an upgrade, they let you upgrade it, and use the phone on another line. Every carrier out there will do this, and most of them don't require any contact with their CS to make sure it's actually possible.
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So Sprint did what should be expected and that is commendable? Lol
Look at it this way, if it was T-Mobile, you would have just had to pop in the SIM card. No call (or chat), no activation, no concern for plan changes.
Not saying T-Mobile is great, just saying Sprint shouldn't be commended for doing the bare minimum.
You had a line due for an upgrade, they let you upgrade it, and use the phone on another line. Every carrier out there will do this, and most of them don't require any contact with their CS to make sure it's actually possible.
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I truly miss this about gsm phones. Over the years I've collected so many gsm phones that friends usually come to me when they lose their phone, cuz I'd give them one to borrow. Just pop in a sim and it's good to go. This is my first cdma phone. God forbid I lose it, esp. at a time when I need to use a phone really bad or something.
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Sprint SERO was the best plan ever! Wish Sprint had kept on with Sero and not let it go.
cool story bro
Yeah, too bad they no longer offer the SERO plans and have so many restrictions on them now. So you have an EVO on a SERO Premium plan, not a plain vanilla SERO, right?
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I guess that answers the question.
I've thought about doing this. My wife's account is eligible for an upgrade. She doesn't want to upgrade because she wants a phone with a physical keyboard (she has the Epic 4G).
Mine is not eligible, as I bought my 3D when it came out. Can I use my wife's upgrade to get the 4G LTE, and then activate the 4G LTE on my line? I mean, I assumed I could do that, and it sounds like you are saying it's possible, but I wasn't sure. Do I need to give Sprint some special instruction not to activate the phone when I order it? Do they automatically activate it when you buy it (before it gets to you?).
Also, I know it will reset the upgrade period for my wife's account, but it won't for my account, correct?
I don't see another phone with a physical keyboard on the horizon, so I don't feel so bad in taking my wife's upgrade, heh.
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I've thought about doing this. My wife's account is eligible for an upgrade. She doesn't want to upgrade because she wants a phone with a physical keyboard (she has the Epic 4G).
Mine is not eligible, as I bought my 3D when it came out. Can I use my wife's upgrade to get the 4G LTE, and then activate the 4G LTE on my line? I mean, I assumed I could do that, and it sounds like you are saying it's possible, but I wasn't sure. Do I need to give Sprint some special instruction not to activate the phone when I order it? Do they automatically activate it when you buy it (before it gets to you?).
Also, I know it will reset the upgrade period for my wife's account, but it won't for my account, correct?
I don't see another phone with a physical keyboard on the horizon, so I don't feel so bad in taking my wife's upgrade, heh.
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Yes, that's exactly what I did.
No special instructions needed you can do it yourself online.
BUT... you might want to read the news on the 4G LTE. Sprint is no longer accepting pre orders and I suspect prior orders might get canceled. No fault of Sprints.
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cool story bro
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Sprint SERO was the best plan ever! Wish Sprint had kept on with Sero and not let it go.
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Some people sell their SERO plans. Or, if you know someone with SERO, you can add a line to theirs and get I think you can break it off to be your own. I'm still on SERO P, myself.
In my opinion Sprint Blows!!!!! I love Verizon!!!!!!
sprint has been great with me so far.. i lost my evo 4g like 8 months ago and they sent me an 3vo 3d.. i was souped!!!!! them i just got a letter saying i can do an early upgrade!!! sweet!! im gonna wait it out for a bit though.. i have not had any problems with sprint so far.. key words.. if my last year go's by good i will be mos deff signin up for another 2 peice
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In my opinion Sprint Blows!!!!! I love Verizon!!!!!!
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Who cares.......
seriously, cool story bro.
not.
saying u like sprint because of sero is absolutely useless to the vast majority of sprint subscribers because its not available - not to mention, the vast majority doesn't have the plan.
upgrades on a yearly basis are over with, even for those with huge monthly bills.
network sucks - whats the point of unlimited data when you can't use it?
anyways, glad you like em. I don't. Very unhappy and leaving for verizon soon as a decent quad core with a large screen drops over there.
good luck.
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seriously, cool story bro.
not.
saying u like sprint because of sero is absolutely useless to the vast majority of sprint subscribers because its not available - not to mention, the vast majority doesn't have the plan.
upgrades on a yearly basis are over with, even for those with huge monthly bills.
network sucks - whats the point of unlimited data when you can't use it?
anyways, glad you like em. I don't. Very unhappy and leaving for verizon soon as a decent quad core with a large screen drops over there.
good luck.
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Enjoy your Verizon bills.
Data works fine for me with Sprint, not blazing but good enough, way better than any GSM provider. Calls do too. Verizon is better but not worth the price. Nor do I like how Verizon locks out features that Sprint phones provide.
A co-worker of mine has Verizon and he pays a fortune for his plan. His phone never ran any faster or more reliable than mine.
I have Verizon FIOS and every chance they get they try to rip me off. Oops sorry for the double billing, oops sorry we forgot to cancel that feature. I hate them.
I was excited because Sprint gave me a brand new $400.00 phone for $35 with no insurance and it was completely my fault.
They often do early upgrades where you don't have to wait 2 full years. And in this case they let me mix my upgrade options.
The only reason I mentioned SERO was because I was impressed the Sprint rep knew about it, why I was concerned I might lose it if I mixed and matched my upgrade options and that their flexibilty might be limited on a SERO plan. It was not the reason why I started this thread. SERO is just icing on the cake. And I'd have Sprint even if I didn't have SERO.
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Enjoy your Verizon bills.
Data works fine for me with Sprint, not blazing but good enough, way better than any GSM provider. Calls do too. Verizon is better but not worth the price. Nor do I like how Verizon locks out features that Sprint phones provide.
A co-worker of mine has Verizon and he pays a fortune for his plan. His phone never ran any faster or more reliable than mine.
I have Verizon FIOS and every chance they get they try to rip me off. Oops sorry for the double billing, oops sorry we forgot to cancel that feature. I hate them.
I was excited because Sprint gave me a brand new $400.00 phone for $35 with no insurance and it was completely my fault.
They often do early upgrades where you don't have to wait 2 full years. And in this case they let me mix my upgrade options.
The only reason I mentioned SERO was because I was impressed the Sprint rep knew about it, why I was concerned I might lose it if I mixed and matched my upgrade options and that their flexibilty might be limited on a SERO plan. It was not the reason why I started this thread. SERO is just icing on the cake. And I'd have Sprint even if I didn't have SERO.
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For most people your post will be non applicable.
1: Sprint has the slowest data of all the carriers in most areas (according to several independent national tests). If it's faster in your area, just know that you are a rare case and it will be different if you travel to almost any other area. My Sprint 3G is actually slower than dial up (and slower than T-Mobile's throttled data).
2: Sprint is basically the same price as Verizon or AT&T these days. It might be a few bucks cheaper, but nothing significant.
3: T-Mobile is cheaper than Sprint.
4: Sprint's early upgrade program is dead. I know they used to do this in the past, but they killed that program. Now it's 2 years to upgrade, or pay the etf and then you can upgrade early.
Hello,
We are long time Verizon customers but have had enough of their capricious attitude, the insane recent price hikes and limited data plans. (although we currently have unlimited data). However, my husband's phone was stolen about a month ago and while we're using an old phone for the moment, we need to upgrade it for him. I like Sprint's current business model of unlimited everything (& we plan to sign up for everything data plus from the employees referral to save a bit and get more minutes). We also like the fact that Sprint is a green company and supports more things that we believe in. Yeah, I know that we're giving up the network for a bit until Sprint's Network Vision is completed but I think we can live with that.
Here's my dilemma. There are no Sprint owned stores in our area, just third party stores and only a couple of those so I can't buy through them &get everything data plus... Which is fine because they don't know much at all. I went there to try to see both the Evo 4G LTE side by side with the Samsung Galaxy S3...both working. Unfortunately, they didn't have a working model of the S3 but they opened up a package so I could at least hold them next to each other.
My concern most of all is with the radio quality and reception. I have some serious medical issues so being able to call for help is a frequent need. I took my current phone (HTC Rezound), my husband's Motorola DROID X, and the Evo LTE, and did side by side comparisons of the radios. My Rezound came in top at -80 give or take a few both directions, the DX, at -86 also give/take & the Evo LTE at -97 to -103. I then tried to load a webpage on my Rezound and the Evo. I picked yahoo because it has mixed media &was a first thing that popped into my head. My Rezound loaded the desktop version in less than 20 seconds... The Evo was still attempting to load the mobile version after several minutes.
So, do I believe the story that the mall kiosk has terrible Sprint reception? Was the demo Evo LTE one of the bad first batch? I know that there will be a step back in service speed but this was unbearable. I'm hoping that this isn't the normal for Sprint service... I mean it can't be, right? Right no one would use them.
What I'm unable to find out is what the Samsung Galaxy S3 radio is like compared to the Evo LTE in similar circumstances. I can't afford to get one of the phones, not have it work, pay the restocking fee and a second activation fee. With two lines that's over $200 just to switch away from a defective phone. Is there any leeway given for phones that won't hold a signal... Like allowing us to switch to another phone if the first is defective? I know that the base chipset is the same between the two phones but from what I've read the radios themselves can be different based on the manufacturer. So, I don't know what either the HTC Evo LTE or galaxy S3 would be like on any specific phone and it sounds like there are differences in the batches. What do I do or what would you do? I know we're taking a risk switching to carriers but we want to live authentically and put money into companies that are supporting the things we believe in and shaping their company based upon similar values. We will be having to do a transfer of our Vzw account (assumption of liability) once we're settled into Sprint but not until we're positive it works for us. Then we'll give up our Vzw contract so we don't owe an ETF. It also gives my DH the phone upgrade he needs since his was stolen during one of my medical emergencies. Vzw refused to help us at all through the whole process.
But I digress.
What do you think phone wise? Bad reception? Bad Evo LTE? Would you take a chance on the S3 with Samsung's past radio issues... Do you think that they've improved them? Would you take a chance on getting a bad Evo LTE since HTC /Sprint have admitted to a problem there? Since I can't compare them side by side working or compare radio strengths I really need advice!
Thanks so much in advance!
All the best,
Rae
I just loaded up the yahoo desktop Site on my LTE in about 18 seconds and I have 1 bar and very bad 3G reception in my house.
Radios seem to be just fine on the Evo and from the GSIII. Sure Samsung had issues in the past but I think they have gotten them all squared away. Sprints network is just down right awful but as you said they are working to improve a large coverage area over the next 18 months.
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Wow the was a beating to read but imo the radio is pretty good and I'm sure its getter than the gs3 also overall build quality is getter than the gs3 but if I were you I'd get a gs3 to play with for a little bit and compare side to side. I'm die hard HTC so there was no question for me
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Speeds will differ from city to city. I get 25kbps in my city where the towers are clogged and undergoing maintenance. I was on a road trip this weekend and got 2mbps a few hours from my hometown.
WiFi is your friend
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I tend to agree. I'd get the GSIII too if I were them. I just have a thing for Evo's and HTC.
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Also, if you have high speed internet at home you can get an adaptor for your house to allow a mini like sprint tower for your house. My buddy did it and its only a few dollars a month for taxes. Something to consider if poor signal around the house.
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I just picked up the EVO for me and the wife. The radios are fine. You really can't go wrong either way, with the SG3 or the EVO. I had an SG1 before this. I would say you have to try it out at your house. If sprint doesn't fit the bill then you just stuck with Verizon.
There are some other differences between the SG3 and the EVO, I found that the Evo had the things that I really wanted like camera button. I really did think that I would have the SG3 about 2 months ago, just saying really look at them closely if that is the way you go.
I, too, am an HTC fan. Love Sense and I don't care for Touchwiz. I'm sure either phone would suit your needs. I would think Sprint would trade out your phone if there was a defect issue. I got mine through Best Buy but have bought from Sprint before and had issues with my 3D after I had it for about 6months and they traded it out for me. Also, just wanted to mention, in case you didn't already know, that any phone call made to any mobile number with Sprint does not come off your minutes. I barely touch my minutes because most of my calls are made mobile to mobile. And the nights and weekends start at 7pm instead of 9pm. You may not need the unlimited calling plan if you don't do a lot of land line calling.
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Let us know what you decide. I don't know what sprints return policy is. Think you should just go to Best Buy & see what there return policy is.
As far as price, sprint really is great. The network can vary greatly from horrible to average on 3g depending on if your tower has gotten the network Vision upgrade. (there are places online that you can check if it's gotten the upgrade, but I don't know the link)
As someone mentioned, you can get the airwave femtocell to improve service in your home and sometimes you can get that for free.
I too am a fan of Sprints green policies. And I love the screen on the this (evo) compared to gs3. But they are both great phones.
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I love the sprint pricing/plan practice, but the network is terrible. It's usually been pretty good but lately it has been garbage, I'm hoping it's due to the upgrades and tower converting..
I wouldn't recommend Sprint at this time with someone who has health issues, but you can try them and see. I think they have a decent return policy
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in my area the NV upgrades are causing lots of dropped calls for me and my wife... the 3g speeds have always been abysmal with sprint... the unlimited data sounds great, but do you really need more than the 2gb caps that most other companys have in place? I don't think I've ever used more than 1gb of data in a month.
If I were you, I'd wait a bit before switching to sprint, make sure NV actually does what is promised, before you commit to them for 24 months
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I like Sprint's current business model of unlimited everything (& we plan to sign up for everything data plus from the employees referral to save a bit and get more minutes).
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Keep in mind that Sprint does free mobile to mobile. My family plan has only 700 minutes, and we usually end up with 500 minutes unused every month. That's free *any* mobile to any mobile. If you get a call from a verizon user, for example, you're still not using your minutes. Lots of minutes is nice, just make sure you don't end up paying more for a plan you don't really need
My concern most of all is with the radio quality and reception. I have some serious medical issues so being able to call for help is a frequent need. I took my current phone (HTC Rezound), my husband's Motorola DROID X, and the Evo LTE, and did side by side comparisons of the radios. My Rezound came in top at -80 give or take a few both directions, the DX, at -86 also give/take & the Evo LTE at -97 to -103. I then tried to load a webpage on my Rezound and the Evo. I picked yahoo because it has mixed media &was a first thing that popped into my head. My Rezound loaded the desktop version in less than 20 seconds... The Evo was still attempting to load the mobile version after several minutes.
So, do I believe the story that the mall kiosk has terrible Sprint reception? Was the demo Evo LTE one of the bad first batch? I know that there will be a step back in service speed but this was unbearable. I'm hoping that this isn't the normal for Sprint service... I mean it can't be, right? Right no one would use them.
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Sprint has very similar coverage to Verizon, since they rent towers from each other. The difference is that Verizon uses different frequency signal, which penetrates some hard objects (like walls) better than Sprint. So yes, your reception indoors is likely to be worse with any Sprint phone.
Sprint can give you a minitower for your house though (they call them Airave). If you tell them you don't have reception in your house, they will give it to you for free. It plugs into your network router and gives you about 100' radius of very good reception.
As far as Galaxy vs Evo, I can't really say, since I don't have a Galaxy. Evo's reception seems to me to be very good, compared to my old Moment, Transform, and Epic. Similar to slightly better than my wife's iPhone4.
I'll let you know. Mostly I want to know that Sprint will stand behind either phone if the radios aren't up to par without the restocking fees and a second activation fee... I can't afford $210 of activation, restocking and another reactivation fee for phones that are defective. I'm not talking about just changing my mind and wanting a different phone but needing to trust that one way or another I'll get two phones with no radio issues.
It's not as simple as just staying with VZW, my husband's phone was stolen during one of my medical emergencies... He's currently using an old phone but it's not working very well. So, we either pony up for a new phone (even if it's via Craigslist) or we get a new provider (who hopefully gives a care bc Vzw certainly didn't!), both get new phones and sell our current ones to cover most of the upfront cost of the new phones. We could wait until Network Vision is completed or moreso but will they still be able to offer unlimited data plan at that point. Since we feel that we want to switch, now feels like a good time to do so. Does that make sense?
No we're not out of contract with Verizon but have people lined up to do an AOL (assumption of liability or contract takeover) so we'd be out of it with no fees. However, we won't complete the AOL until we're sure that Sprint will work for us now.
Does anyone know if the everything data plus (we'd be looking at the 1600min family plan) has free activation? I'd have to order online and it would be via employee referral? Also, do you get any numbers you can pick that are unlimited to those numbers? Verizon had friends and family where you got to pick a handful of numbers that you call the most that don't count against our minutes. My only concern is my in laws as they have a VERY limited cell plan and use their land line almost exclusively. If we could add that one number that would help a ton. I'd read somewhere online that Sprint had something similar but now, of course, can't find it again.
I appreciate all of your help and advice so very much. I hope this explains more why we're considering the switch and why we need good phone reception... At least as good as is currently possible on their network.
BTW, when we informed Vzw about the phone theft we were tracking the phone on Google latitude and the refused to help or advise us as to what to do in any way. Super disappointed with their lack of help. If the customer service had been better, we might have gotten our phone back. I've heard good things about Sprint's customer service.
Any other thoughts or suggestions or advice... Please share! And many thanks to all of you who have shared!
I'll add my 2 cents. I have bought phones from Sprint local stores, employee referral that you mentioned (I have the 1600 employee referral plan). I have had similar service from all places. And yes, Sprint does have an add-on for call any number for free. It is called pick 3. After you sign up for service, call customer service, and tell them you came from Verizon which had that feature and you really miss it. Ask them about pick 3 and they should be able to give it to you for free. 3 numbers that don't use your anytime minutes. Can be different numbers for each line.
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Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Yea thats what I keep telling myself. But they did finally deploy LTE in an area near me... Barely worked. And I constantly got dropped calls, calls not coming through at all, missing texts, etc. Had to force LTE to stay off so I could actually use my phone.
I was sitting in Citibank making changes to my account. The customer service rep had to call me back on my own cellphone to verify my identity, so I sat there staring at my phone with 5 bars of LTE. No call. 5 mins later, I decide to turn off LTE, and call comes through. The woman said she kept calling but getting sent straight to voice mail =.=
I dont have much hope for them.. sigh.
And I just dont like the idea that I'm paying them monthly for basically no service.
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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If you want to be safe, try to get a cheap T-Mobile compatible phone (I imagine someone you know has to have a crappy one laying around) and sign up for their prepaid plan. I think you can go day to day ($2 a day) or at least the $30/month plan. Give it a test drive. The SIM card activation kit will cost you $10 initially so it's $40 out of pocket to give it a test run. But it'll be a much more accurate view of how T-Mobile coverage is for your particular situation.
in my area tmo is way better i average 15-18 download 6-10 upload my friend who has sprint 1-3 download less than 1 upload
Yeah, do what that poster said, buy a T-Mobile Sim, and do the 30 a month prepaid and ask a friend or someone to lend you their phone and try it out. that what I would do actually, I had a friend who was with Sprint here in Oregon and was getting awful speed. He liked them because of the whole unlimited internet but i told him that having a capped data of 5gb a month that works is better than having unlimited data that doesnt work
Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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you have to pay extra for it unless your on a custom rom with the unlocked tethering mod but tethering is free with the 2.5 gb 4glte plan i have
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Cor-master said:
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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I believe that's correct but I dunno what happens when you hit your cap. I'm not actually on Tmobile, I'm on at&t but me and my wife both have nexus 4s and it's actually cheaper for me to switch not and eat my etf rather than wait till the end of my contract so I've been heavily researching it. I really want unlimited data so I can use google play music without worrying about hitting my cap within a week
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nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
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yea but most of the sense based roms have included it on the international forum so no need to have aosp for free tethering anymore
Ohh soo tempting to just switch asap.
Thanks for the help guys.
I would miss my QWERTY keyboard on this Photon Q though. Its basically the one and only redeeming feature >.> lol
How is typing on the HTC One? I was never able to really get used to swype on my phone :|
Wonder if I can restrict myself to screen typing only with my current phone, so I can get used to it.
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
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Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
I Like Soup said:
Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
Nippero said:
Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
I Like Soup said:
Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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that would be great, thanks!
Actually guys I switched from unlimited 3G/text and I think it was 900 shared min at sprint and hopped on T-Mobile with unlimited 4G LTE/text and 1000 shared min. I pay $150 a month, but only because were paying off our phones(I have the HTC One and she has the GS4). I haven't regretted it one bit. Also since LA got lit up with LTE its been awesome.
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Current phone:
HTC One(Stock Non-rooted), 32GB
Retired phones:
GS3 CM10, 32GB
HTC EVO 4G LTE CM10.1, 16GB
iPhone 4s, 64GB
Ok people I've been on sprint since the OG EVO and I'm tired. It seems like the only way to go is GSM and I refuse to support crap GayT&T. On sprint, I have the HTC one (bought launch day), unlimited unthrottled data etc all at the cost of about $85-$89. With the new uncarrier and JUMP T-Mobile plans.... How much will this work out for me.
I will of course get the HTC one again, s-off it etc. I know it'll cost money down, but how will my bill be if I want UNLIMITED UNTHROTTLED DATA AMD THE JUMP PLAN? Could some of you smarter guys elaborate on this best you can please? Very much appreciated
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Device (due upfront):
Down payment=$99.99 (sometimes less)
Tax on the full price of the phone=about $47.00
TOTAL=about $146.99
Services (due monthly):
Unlimited talk+text=$50.00
Unlimited data=$20.00
Monthly EIP (handset payment)=$20.00
JUMP=$10.00
TOTAL=$100.00+taxes & fees
*note
The unlimited data plan does NOT include wireless tethering so if that's a service you want/use, T-Mobile does charge extra for it.
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For questions it's best to post in the Q&A section of this forum, or indeed the best place to go for answers to questions such as these is your local T-Mobile store or to call T-Mobile at 1-800-T-MOBILE . Their associates are friendly and more than knowledge enough to help you with all these types of questions.
With root... Won't I be able to tether all I want or do they track that down?
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Behold_this said:
Device (due upfront):
Down payment=$99.99 (sometimes less)
Tax on the full price of the phone=about $47.00
TOTAL=about $146.99
Services (due monthly):
Unlimited talk+text=$50.00
Unlimited data=$20.00
Monthly EIP (handset payment)=$20.00
JUMP=$10.00
TOTAL=$100.00+taxes & fees
*note
The unlimited data plan does NOT include wireless tethering so if that's a service you want/use, T-Mobile does charge extra for it.
**note 2
For questions it's best to post in the Q&A section of this forum, or indeed the best place to go for answers to questions such as these is your local T-Mobile store or to call T-Mobile at 1-800-T-MOBILE . Their associates are friendly and more than knowledge enough to help you with all these types of questions.
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Unlimited data includes 500 MB of tethering.
SmiLey497 said:
Unlimited data includes 500 MB of tethering.
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That's true. I forgot about that. However, that'll be burned through in a weekend.
Behold_this said:
That's true. I forgot about that. However, that'll be burned through in a weekend.
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So I'll basically be in a worse situation? With Sprint... Network is shifty but where I am mostly... I get 4g. Unlimited whatever for $85-$89. With T... I'll be paying $100
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XaoSilentrzk said:
So I'll basically be in a worse situation? With Sprint... Network is shifty but where I am mostly... I get 4g. Unlimited whatever for $85-$89. With T... I'll be paying $100
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Only if you do the JUMP program. If you want to wait two years to upgrade your device (just like you do on Sprint), it would be the same price per month. If Sprint's network is anything like it is here in Las Vegas out where you live, then T-Mobile is at minimum 3x faster. Also at any time you can pay the remaining balance of your EIP and your payment per month would go down to further $20.
Examples:
No JUMP w/ EIP=$90p/m
No EIP w/ JUMP=$80p/m
No EIP+No JUMP=$70p/m
etc...
Also keep in mind that if you pay off your existing EIP you can start a new one, plus then you get to keep the old phone. JUMP is essentially nothing more than leasing a phone, similar to how one leases a car. You're basically paying an exaggerated rental charge for your current device because with the JUMP program you need to turn in your old device upon getting a new one. In reality the true benefit of JUMP is the included premium handset insurance.
Behold_this said:
Only if you do the JUMP program. If you want to wait two years to upgrade your device (just like you do on Sprint), it would be the same price per month. If Sprint's network is anything like it is here in Las Vegas out where you live, then T-Mobile is at minimum 3x faster. Also at any time you can pay the remaining balance of your EIP and your payment per month would go down to further $20.
Examples:
No JUMP w/ EIP=$90p/m
No EIP w/ JUMP=$80p/m
No EIP+No JUMP=$70p/m
etc...
Also keep in mind that if you pay off your existing EIP you can start a new one, plus then you get to keep the old phone. JUMP is essentially nothing more than leasing a phone, similar to how one leases a car. You're basically paying an exaggerated rental charge for your current device because with the JUMP program you need to turn in your old device upon getting a new one. In reality the true benefit of JUMP is the included premium handset insurance.
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I see... Thanks for your advice
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XaoSilentrzk said:
So I'll basically be in a worse situation? With Sprint... Network is shifty but where I am mostly... I get 4g. Unlimited whatever for $85-$89. With T... I'll be paying $100
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You don't need jump and when your phone is paid off your price is 70.00 unlike sprint you will end up paying the same price regardless. I was with sprint for 10 years and their service sucked so bad.
rasstar said:
You don't need jump and when your phone is paid off your price is 70.00 unlike sprint you will end up paying the same price regardless. I was with sprint for 10 years and their service sucked so bad.
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I buy the new HTC every year tho
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