Hello good folks, was hopping somebody can help me here.
I have been using htc phones for years, I mean like 10 years almost.
long story short, just got a One max and I'm having an issue with the smilies when receiving text messages. For some reason when the wife sends me smilies in text, they don't show up as the image/smilies, they show up as just text, so that I'm clear, for example if you sent me this smile , it would show up as the text "", is there a setting some where I'm missing?
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the htc one, I came from the htc rezound (old as heck) and I have more features on that phone then I do on this one
I thank you all for your time and help.
max444 said:
Hello good folks, was hopping somebody can help me here.
I have been using htc phones for years, I mean like 10 years almost.
long story short, just got a One max and I'm having an issue with the smilies when receiving text messages. For some reason when the wife sends me smilies in text, they don't show up as the image/smilies, they show up as just text, so that I'm clear, for example if you sent me this smile , it would show up as the text "", is there a setting some where I'm missing?
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the htc one, I came from the htc rezound (old as heck) and I have more features on that phone then I do on this one
I thank you all for your time and help.
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What phone does she have? I've noticed that sometimes it depends on who is texting. As per the more features on the rezound you are gravely mistaken... Having owned both phones that's like saying dial-up is better than Fios... If the texting issue is that big of a deal probably best to leave android because you can find a more catered experience elsewhere...
cstrife999 said:
What phone does she have? I've noticed that sometimes it depends on who is texting. As per the more features on the rezound you are gravely mistaken... Having owned both phones that's like saying dial-up is better than Fios... If the texting issue is that big of a deal probably best to leave android because you can find a more catered experience elsewhere...
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she has the samsung note 3.
Of course the one max is newer and it has a newer operating system and etc however some good features are missing.
on rezound I have the home screen in the middle and then 3 other screens on each side I can swipe to, for a total of 7 home screens.
On one max without the feed screen you have a total of 5 screens, home in the middle and 2 on each side.
on rezound I can go around the home screens in a circle, on the one max once you go one way you have to back track to get to the opposite side.
on the rezound I have a "people widget" that shows the person and then right next to it the latest text/mail communications of that person, this was a great widget that allowed me to look at each of my favorites and allow me to see their communication by just a glance, One max does not have that anymore it just has the default people widget that just shows the person, you can't see test or anything right there.
I can go with a few more useful/time saving features that are not there, like the lock screen and its apps for example and there is lots more.
So when I say it was better I mean it in that sense, maybe you can do the things I mentioned and I just can't figure it out but I'm 99% sure you can't.
Yes the One max has some good abilities over the rezound like the size for example, and other things, but some of the things I mentioned make no sense to me why they are gone making One max not as easy to use as rezound when it came to some features.
Ok so you are saying that it depends on what kind of a phone I'm getting text from? I'm not good in that area and like to say it does not matter, but if you know for a fact it does, then I guess it does. Thank you for your response and time.
max444 said:
Hello good folks, was hopping somebody can help me here.
I have been using htc phones for years, I mean like 10 years almost.
long story short, just got a One max and I'm having an issue with the smilies when receiving text messages. For some reason when the wife sends me smilies in text, they don't show up as the image/smilies, they show up as just text, so that I'm clear, for example if you sent me this smile , it would show up as the text "", is there a setting some where I'm missing?
I have to say I'm a bit disappointed with the htc one, I came from the htc rezound (old as heck) and I have more features on that phone then I do on this one
I thank you all for your time and help.
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Are you using a different keyboard than stock on either phone?
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max444 said:
she has the samsung note 3.
Of course the one max is newer and it has a newer operating system and etc however some good features are missing.
on rezound I have the home screen in the middle and then 3 other screens on each side I can swipe to, for a total of 7 home screens.
On one max without the feed screen you have a total of 5 screens, home in the middle and 2 on each side.
on rezound I can go around the home screens in a circle, on the one max once you go one way you have to back track to get to the opposite side.
on the rezound I have a "people widget" that shows the person and then right next to it the latest text/mail communications of that person, this was a great widget that allowed me to look at each of my favorites and allow me to see their communication by just a glance, One max does not have that anymore it just has the default people widget that just shows the person, you can't see test or anything right there.
I can go with a few more useful/time saving features that are not there, like the lock screen and its apps for example and there is lots more.
So when I say it was better I mean it in that sense, maybe you can do the things I mentioned and I just can't figure it out but I'm 99% sure you can't.
Yes the One max has some good abilities over the rezound like the size for example, and other things, but some of the things I mentioned make no sense to me why they are gone making One max not as easy to use as rezound when it came to some features.
Ok so you are saying that it depends on what kind of a phone I'm getting text from? I'm not good in that area and like to say it does not matter, but if you know for a fact it does, then I guess it does. Thank you for your response and time.
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After re-reading my post I think I came across as arrogant. I apologize for that. With most of what you said is true though most didn't want them but they work for you and that works for you. In this specific case you might be better to go back to the rezound. They eliminated most of those features for a reason to them and I don't think they'd bring them back. Certain roms do include the unlimited scrolling for homescreens though that's about it. I'm not a big eye candy person myself. Considering how modern her phone is that sounds really weird. Do you use normal texts or hangouts? You both want to try hangouts and see if that works for you.
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Thanks dottat,
we are both using default keyboard but I was able to figure it out, I will state it below.
cstrife999 said:
After re-reading my post I think I came across as arrogant. I apologize for that. With most of what you said is true though most didn't want them but they work for you and that works for you. In this specific case you might be better to go back to the rezound. They eliminated most of those features for a reason to them and I don't think they'd bring them back. Certain roms do include the unlimited scrolling for homescreens though that's about it. I'm not a big eye candy person myself. Considering how modern her phone is that sounds really weird. Do you use normal texts or hangouts? You both want to try hangouts and see if that works for you.
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Thanks cstrife999,
we use normal texts and I was able to figure it out.
here is what it was:
on her note 3 she has 2 different sections for smilies, there is the default one we are all used to ( the one under the menu options under "insert smilies"), and then there is another section for smilies that has all the ones we have on the max, this other one you get to by holding the voice key down till you get a menu for 5 objects one being the second set of smilies.
Now the default ones are just the basic ones and only droid smilies, these are the ones that appear as text no matter what, however once we go to the second set of smilies as mentioned above all the smilies showed up on the texts as smilies.
Problems solved.
I like to thank you all for your time/help and responses.:highfive:
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Hello all,
I'm trying to decide between the Amaze and the SGII from Telus, and the most important thing to me is the size of the keys and how well both work in landscape mode. I have large hands, and I will be doing a lot of texting and e-mailing from my phone as I do use my phones as business tools as well. It doesn't matter that one might have a slightly better camera than the other, or that one is a slightly superior movie viewing experience. I have always had physical keyboards, so it will take some getting used to lifting my thumbs between each keystroke already.
The dealers around where I live have all been reluctant to let me see both side by side, but it seems to me that the Amaze, despite being a smaller screen, actually has larger keys in landscape mode. Is anyone able to confirm this? Thanks to any that can shed light on this.
Telus dealer's should have no problem letting you see them side by side. At first they didn't want to let me handle either one of them but when I told them that I'm not about to sign a 3 year contract without looking at what I'm getting they agreed and allowed me to play with both.
As to your question, it seems to me that the Telus keyboard is bigger and easier to manage, but since that wasn't the focus of what I was looking at, I'm just going from (a rather poor) memory. I'd go back to a store and TELL them you want to see both phones.
Yeah the Telus I went to they let me try out the Amaze. They got one from the back that wasn't connected to anything. They just handed it to me and left me alone to play with it. I could have just ran out with a working phone. I compared the two but I never tried landscape. I would think the Samsung has a bigger keyboard because the screen is bigger, the resolution is lower so things are stretched out more.
i just got my amaze from telus (upgrading from desire hd) and i notice a HUGE difference in the ease of the keyboard. number 1 the duel core makes it keep up as i type fast, unlike the ****ty 1ghrtz on the DHD which wud be a bit behind, and the letters blow up a bit bigger to i think cause im finding it MUCH easier to type on the amaze. oh ya the swipe keyboard is awesome to once you get the hang of it
Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
sixfoot7 said:
Thanks for the info guys. For some reason they always put one away before taking the other one out. Maybe I look like I'm going to take one and run out, guess I'll have to be more insistent.
I also noticed that the Samsung's keyboard doesn't have a comma, that you have to go to the # screen to get to it. I'm guessing that I'll be able to find one on the market that has it.
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Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
marleyfan61 said:
Are you sure the comma isn't somewhere on the keyboard above one of the other letters? I know that at first on the Amaze keyboard I was going into the # screen to get to the question mark, then I realized that I can press and hold the "k" to get the question mark. Samsung may be similar. Have a look.
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There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
sixfoot7 said:
There probably is one that's a long press, I meant a dedicated key without having to resort to a long press. Guess it's just one of those things I'm going to get used to coming from a physical keyboard.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning the question mark. Now I'm going to obsess about looking for an easy way to get to that
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Coming from a physical keyboard can be difficult. I came from a physical keyboard (samsung slide) to touch on the Hero. I never really got used to it on that phone. The keys were so small even in landscape. I'm finding a huge difference with the Amaze. Way easier on the bigger screen.
I'm hoping the larger keys will make the transition. Thanks for your input. I see you're from the greatest city in the world (yes I'm a Surrey boy). It was the Apex in Langley, and the Telus store by the WalMart on 64th that didn't want me to see both at the same time.
I went to Best Buy and they let me see both side by side after a little coaxing. And yeah....I'm not too proud to admit I'm from Surrey. Not all of us are riot crashers.
Went back to Apex, finally got someone to show me both. The SGII's landscape keyboard is bigger than the Amaze's, about 3x2 mm bigger. Enough of a difference for me. In portrait mode, not even close, the SGII's was about 20% larger. Might actually be useable for me and my monster hands. The Amaze's camera was definitely better, but I was surprised to see some shooting modes missing that the T-mo version has.
I'd be happy with either, I'm sure, but I have to go with the SGII for the larger keyboards. Thanks to those who lent their input, I appreciate it.
Amaze Keyboard
Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
nguyendqh said:
Just thought I'd suggest the "Gingerbread Keyboard" from Steven Lin on the market.
Honestly one of the best keyboards I've ever used, coming from the MT4G.
Haven't had a chance to try it on the Amaze but will do sometime soon.
Let me know if you like it any better or if it even works on the Amaze.
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I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
marleyfan61 said:
I had a look at that keyboard on my Amaze and it actually makes the keys smaller. Particularly in portrait. The bonus to that keyboard though is the addition of a row along the top with all the punctuation. That is a useful feature. Too bad it was added at the expense of key size.
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Oh really? That sucks. =( I do like that keyboard a lot.
Been using it for a year already on my MT4G. I do love the punctuation though.
The word selection comes easier for me too. Auto correct I mean.
I also like that after selecting a word it automatically spaces for me to start
typing my next word. And spacing twice puts a period. Holding enter brings up smiley faces. The list goes on. I may install on my Amaze anyway and see how I like it.
Thanks for the feedback though.
I just came back from Warped Tour and I'm checking out the videos I recorded...these videos are actually legit. The quality looks damn good and the sound is ****in sick. I hate myself for the way I was holding my phone though because I can tell when I was cupping it wrong but other than that, it sounds damn good (and I'm super picky when it comes to audio).
On top of that...phone was unplugged since 8 AM...right now I'm at home with 8%...I'm shocked. Running all stock...no root. Good job HTC.
Wooo Dallas!
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-Cupper- said:
Wooo Dallas!
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Haha hell yeah!
This phone is actually, gradually pissing me off each day.. Great to hear your liking it. It does take great photos.
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Another stock user.
This is finally a phone that I have no problem running stock. I have gotten used to the 3 dot menu bar, which will be fixed in an update soon anyway. Everything is just great. Using the OG Evo stock on Froyo was a terrible experience because the battery life was horrendous. The Evo 3D was laggy and also had poor battery life. But this phone... this phone is smooth and lasts long. Everything about it is just... good.
Until a JB ROM is available, I probably won't root.
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
ms79723 said:
Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this
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Spoken like a true virgin.
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BrianBaker said:
This phone is actually, gradually pissing me off each day.. Great to hear your liking it. It does take great photos.
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Why is that? I remember you were loving it when you first got it
KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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About half of those issues are still there after you root ..but I still love her for some reason..Although I am starting to wanna use aosp more and more everyday.and I used to be a sense guy all the way..I just feel that stock has become more elegant than it used to be and sense is starting to remove essential functionality from android ie multitasking that should be no issue on a phone of this caliber..and I wish sense was as smooth as tw..but tw is an ugly stepsister to sense
Racer Of All said:
Why is that? I remember you were loving it when you first got it
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nothing that wont be fixed with development.
My main reason for not enjoying this phone is that any time I play a game or watch you tube for a while Sense has to reload a lot when going back to the home screen.
Also after installing or updating apps the phone tends to get really bogged down for 15-20 seconds..Im just coming to the realization that Sense(although slimmed down) is still a fat ***** that causes more bad then good.
shook187 said:
Spoken like a true virgin.
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yessir!
BrianBaker said:
nothing that wont be fixed with development.
My main reason for not enjoying this phone is that any time I play a game or watch you tube for a while Sense has to reload a lot when going back to the home screen.
Also after installing or updating apps the phone tends to get really bogged down for 15-20 seconds..Im just coming to the realization that Sense(although slimmed down) is still a fat ***** that causes more bad then good.
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I'm slowly realizing the same thing about Sense too...it really is trying to mess up the experience for me but there are just too many good things about this phone...
ms79723 said:
This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
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Bro- THANK YOU. I've been meaning to put something to that effect for two.weeks but hammered home(far more succinctly and lucid than I would) every issue I have . Of all of those I think the rerendering when you come off an app then return to it-however brief it just shouldn't happen at this point. Nice post, and , being a solutions oriented gentleman a la woody Paige, I just hope these issues get addressed promptly in our very productive community.
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
Sent from my htc_jewel using xda premium
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Bro- THANK YOU. I've been meaning to put something to that effect for two.weeks but hammered home(far more succinctly and lucid than I would) every issue I have . Of all of those I think the rerendering when you come off an app then return to it-however brief it just shouldn't happen at this point. Nice post, and , being a solutions oriented gentleman a la woody Paige, I just hope these issues get addressed promptly in our very productive community.
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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And guess what? Almost none of those things apply to me because I don't use them. Menu button has already been fixed on the One X, so it will be fixed here. And so on.
I like that this is the first HTC phone that doesn't need SBC kernels
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I like that this is the first HTC phone that doesn't need SBC kernels
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Hahaha yup! Glad to see you on here man
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This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
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I'm not trying to gain anything, or rather, what were you trying to "gain" from your original post?
I don't care what you do or don't do.
You basically said "everything is fine" and pointed out a few reasons why you think so. And I said "no it's not" and pointed out a few reasons why I don't think so. It's called discussion.
I agree the phone is more or less functional and usable out of the box. So what? If that is good enough for you then I submit you have low standards and are possibly bad at math because you can get that for a lot cheaper than this phone with a much better actual phone since even the cheapest dumbphone has a pretty good working cell radio, you know, being it's primary reason for existing and all.
I have the capacity to be laid back and not sweat things I can't change just as you seem to. That's a great virtue to have. Congratulations. But I personally paid full out of pocket price for a lot more than the basics. Of course I know early adopters suffer the shakedown period. That in no way excuses HTC, because, this thing was not sold to us as a beta test unit. It was sold as a product. They are obligated to deliver that product.
Saying everything is great, when it's not, doesn't help anyone. It doesn't get problems fixed, it doesn't let HTC and Sprint know they are failing to deliver and pissing off customers.
As for being laid back, well hell why do you assume I'm not? This is just a web forum post man not some major part of my life. I'm on vacation in Key West if you must know, idly killing time playing with my phone because that's what Key West is about, just chilling and hanging out by the pool. or the beach. or Willie T's on Duval st. My girl is in the pool chatting with the other guests in the pool and none of us has a lick of clothes on. You see it's possible to recognize something needs a lot of improvement, and care about it, _even_ while at the same time recognizing it's place in the grand scheme.
Caring about things in general has an important, a very important place in the grand scheme. At the moment it's this phone. But it's not that this phone litterally itself is so important.
Enjoy your phone if you do.
But if you ask why everyone seems to have complaints, there are reasons. Beleive it or not, it's not just because everyone is just that ridiculously anal.
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I'm not trying to gain anything, or rather, what were you trying to "gain" from your original post?
I don't care what you do or don't do.
You basically said "everything is fine" and pointed out a few reasons why you think so. And I said "no it's not" and pointed out a few reasons why I don't think so. It's called discussion.
I agree the phone is more or less functional and usable out of the box. So what? If that is good enough for you then I submit you have low standards and are possibly bad at math because you can get that for a lot cheaper than this phone with a much better actual phone since even the cheapest dumbphone has a pretty good working cell radio, you know, being it's primary reason for existing and all.
I have the capacity to be laid back and not sweat things I can't change just as you seem to. That's a great virtue to have. Congratulations. But I personally paid full out of pocket price for a lot more than the basics. Of course I know early adopters suffer the shakedown period. That in no way excuses HTC, because, this thing was not sold to us as a beta test unit. It was sold as a product. They are obligated to deliver that product.
Saying everything is great, when it's not, doesn't help anyone. It doesn't get problems fixed, it doesn't let HTC and Sprint know they are failing to deliver and pissing off customers.
As for being laid back, well hell why do you assume I'm not? This is just a web forum post man not some major part of my life. I'm on vacation in Key West if you must know, idly killing time playing with my phone because that's what Key West is about, just chilling and hanging out by the pool. or the beach. or Willie T's on Duval st. My girl is in the pool chatting with the other guests in the pool and none of us has a lick of clothes on. You see it's possible to recognize something needs a lot of improvement, and care about it, _even_ while at the same time recognizing it's place in the grand scheme.
Caring about things in general has an important, a very important place in the grand scheme. At the moment it's this phone. But it's not that this phone litterally itself is so important.
Enjoy your phone if you do.
But if you ask why everyone seems to have complaints, there are reasons. Beleive it or not, it's not just because everyone is just that ridiculously anal.
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I just got back from Key West! What in the world hotel are you at though? Didn't see any clothing optional ones, haha. Only saw the clothing optional bar (Garden of Eden) over on Duval. Nice relaxing place, Key West is. Spent 5 days there. We stayed at The Inn at Key West, which has the largest pool on the island. It was pretty awesome.
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Hello all,
Long term lurker, decided to finally register and just give a few points about my experience for those that are still on the fence about the LG Optimus G.
I personally love this phone, I've had the iPhone for a while moving from the 3g to 3gs to the 4 and handled the 4s plenty (wifes phone) and the iPhone 5 did not impress me much. I won't go into what I felt was lacking in the iPhone but mention my hesitation(s) on coming to android and specifically this phone.
The biggest reason I was hesitant was that the phone came with ICS with a "planned upgrade" in the future. This is a not an issue IMO- if you are thinking of coming from iPhone to android ICS is more than sufficient and you will be more than happy with it. The phone is very snappy and smooth, no hesitation. If you want Jelly bean just to have Jelly bean you can either be patient with it (like i will be) or root your phone so I really think both parties can be satisfied with this issue. The ICS issue is definitely a non issue for me after playing with the phone and seeing how snappy it is.
The screen is great, I get compliments all the time but sunlight visibility is an issue (it's an issue with the iPhone as well) so that is just something to think about if you are out in the sun a lot etc.It's a minor issues for me but can be a bigger problem for others. Going to the issue where it gives the error regarding its inability to brighten any further due to temperature it rarely happens for me-even when it does most of the time it goes to 87% which is still pretty bright. It is a little annoying sometimes that while on the phone you see it dim as the brightness level lowers automatically without you wanting it too. It is what it is.
LTE is great (my fastest speed in Atl area was 57 download 21 upload!!!), my average speeds have been about 20 download 13 upload. I also love google maps and its navigation feature where it literally is a GPS-even better IMO as it shows a picture of your destination on your phone as you arrive (from google street view-it even shows my home as i pull up if i select to give me directions to my place), I thought that was pretty neat and very handy when you head to a restaurant or a friends home etc you haven't been to.
I knew an issue going in would be accessories, and it sucks that many waited for the Otter box to come out but it only fits Sprint. I went ahead and purchased the body glove from the ATT store and I'm pretty happy with it. Thank God I haven't "tested" its protection yet but it seems like it would do well from a fall.
Battery life was pretty bad at first and took time to adjust, especially coming from an iPhone. After numerous full charge and discharge cycles (about 5 days worth) the battery life greatly improved! I use my phone a lot, mainly texting (minimum 40 outgoing texts a day i'd say), maybe 30 minutes of phone calls a day and a lot of browsing/checking my email and it lasts a whole day. I keep my phone on the quad core setting (i rarely go to "eco mode") and its highest brightest setting with gps on and sync feature off and by midnight my phone would be around 35-40%.
I was on gsmarena, phone arena etc religiously seeing if I should pull the trigger on this phone as I was eligible for an upgrade and wanted to get a phone that would last 2 years. I thought about waiting till the next samsung flagship phone comes but that would have been at least 6 months I believe and with ATT it seems I can get an upgrade every 18 or so months so I feel it is best for me to upgrade my line ASAP whenever possible. Bestbuy had the phone at 99 bucks thanksgiving week and that was when I pulled the trigger.
Overall I'm very very happy with my phone :good: and my first android experience on a phone (i have a tablet)
For those that are hesitant like i was, you will not be disappointed.
A side note for those that may be able to answer two questions for me: can I put my contacts facebook profile pic as their pic in my contacts? I have everything synced to "on" from my sync settings on my system settings to my contacts to facebook saying to sync but it only loads a couple to my contacts (about 5%)
Also for group messages I send out, can I receive texts in that same group message I sent?
Welcome to Android. Enjoy
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Search the play store for an app called "haxsync." It'll do what you want regarding contact pictures.
As for group messages, I don't use those so I cannot comment.
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First off, questions go in the Q/A section. However, since this is your first post I'll answer your question anyway, but please use the Q/A section for any other questions you might have.
Search the play store for an app called "haxsync." It'll do what you want regarding contact pictures.
As for group messages, I don't use those so I cannot comment.
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Lol what... He wrote a very long general post and tagged two small questions to the end. This isn't a question thread is perfectly acceptable where it he posted it.
That said uninstall Facebook clear contact data. Give Google a couple minutes to do is thing after manually syncing. Then reinstall Facebook manually create the account in accounts and sync and then sync it and your contact pictures should update just fine.
To answer your question about group text messages (a la iPhone,) the stock Android Messages app doesn't do that. However, Go SMS Pro or Handcent are two SMS/MMS replacement apps and work great. I use Go SMS Pro and there's an option to enable the group texting/MMSing.
That's one great example of the power of Android... Don't like a stock app? Replace it!
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Lol what... He wrote a very long general post and tagged two small questions to the end. This isn't a question thread is perfectly acceptable where it he posted it.
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Lol I was thinking the exact same thing.
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lol tough crowd! Didn't think bout putting the questions in Q n A at the time. Post was meant to be geared towards those still thinking bout the LG. Thanks to those that answered.
Cheers
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Hey guys
I'm running CM10.1 and using Swype...if that changes anything.
I love the stock messaging app and have tried others...didn't like them...one thing I really would like to see is having sending messages instant, like iPhone's, and then you see them being sent.
If any of you have ever used What'sApp before, you'll know what I'm talking about...you hit send, and it instantly shows up in the conversation...whereas messaging has a delay for me (usually when texting multiple people at once, or sending one message after another quickly). There are other little laggy quirks that piss me off...but this is one of the biggest. It's something subtle but very annoying.
Anything?
Thanks,
Elliott
I think that's nerwork related....happens with me, no biggie.
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I find that kind of hard to believe...I know iPhone users on the same network as me don't have any problems...I'm pretty sure it's a software thing.
You should get an iphone then
iOS must mask it.
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You should get an iphone then
iOS must mask it.
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I know I keep saying it...but that's what I need to compare it to.
And yes they must...which I wish they did with Android...just wondering if there are any ROM's that have done this before...and if not, there should be! :good:
lol no one texts anymore
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Bump...anyone else know anything about the possibility of doing this?
So one of the features I was really excited about was the new feature in the HTC One car app that allows the phone to read your text messages and allow you to respond without looking at your phone while driving. When I powered on my phone I was surprised to see that the HTC car app is not there! It seems that ATT had HTC remove this app because ATT installed their own app in its place that does nothing but send a automatic text to people while your driving.
Since i bought mine off contract, I am going to return it and buy the unlocked version directly from HTC. I figure that HTC will be more likely to push updates faster then those going through ATT first. Very dissappointed that ATT decided to eliminate apps from HTC in favor of their own crappy apps.
Also dissappointed to see that HTC did not bring back the mail widget in sense 5. I really liked that widget. But at least they finally allow for unique notifications for each mail account. So I guess its a tradeoff I am fine with. I am also noticing that the LTE signal on this phone is not as strong as the HTC One X Plus or the iPhone 5.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Signal is because they aren't using the same builds. iPhone has a patented antennae band on the outside, while the One + is using a polycarbonate body that doesn't have any signal issues. Aluminum chassis are widely known to have signal issues because of contact problems and placement. They did their best to resolve it with the addition of the plastic edge and plastic bands on the back of the device to bypass the signal issues that typically plague metal phones.
Furthermore, ATT has really ****ty spectrum for building penetration. Since they lost their entire allocation of 700mhz spectrum to Tmobile in the failed merger, their 1700mhz spectrum does not penetrate buildings as well, which has an entirely adverse affect on the metal body already having signal drawbacks.
I'll see how mine works when I get it in a few hours.
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So one of the features I was really excited about was the new feature in the HTC One car app that allows the phone to read your text messages and allow you to respond without looking at your phone while driving. When I powered on my phone I was surprised to see that the HTC car app is not there! It seems that ATT had HTC remove this app because ATT installed their own app in its place that does nothing but send a automatic text to people while your driving.
Since i bought mine off contract, I am going to return it and buy the unlocked version directly from HTC. I figure that HTC will be more likely to push updates faster then those going through ATT first. Very dissappointed that ATT decided to eliminate apps from HTC in favor of their own crappy apps.
Also dissappointed to see that HTC did not bring back the mail widget in sense 5. I really liked that widget. But at least they finally allow for unique notifications for each mail account. So I guess its a tradeoff I am fine with. I am also noticing that the LTE signal on this phone is not as strong as the HTC One X Plus or the iPhone 5.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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If you use a launcher, Car mode magically appears.
I like Blinkfeed, but that and a couple other things may force me to use Nova.
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If you use a launcher, Car mode magically appears.
I like Blinkfeed, but that and a couple other things may force me to use Nova.
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What launcher can I use that will still keep the standard sense? I guess I can use a launcher that also brings back a email widget like the HTC sense one since its been removed in sense 5. Any suggestions?
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So one of the features I was really excited about was the new feature in the HTC One car app that allows the phone to read your text messages and allow you to respond without looking at your phone while driving. When I powered on my phone I was surprised to see that the HTC car app is not there! It seems that ATT had HTC remove this app because ATT installed their own app in its place that does nothing but send a automatic text to people while your driving.
Since i bought mine off contract, I am going to return it and buy the unlocked version directly from HTC. I figure that HTC will be more likely to push updates faster then those going through ATT first. Very dissappointed that ATT decided to eliminate apps from HTC in favor of their own crappy apps.
Also dissappointed to see that HTC did not bring back the mail widget in sense 5. I really liked that widget. But at least they finally allow for unique notifications for each mail account. So I guess its a tradeoff I am fine with. I am also noticing that the LTE signal on this phone is not as strong as the HTC One X Plus or the iPhone 5.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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Damn....I was just asking around in the forums about the Car Mode and if it's on the AT&T version. I was thinking about picking it up since the developer edition is backordered.
I saw a Sprint version last night and it DOES have that car mode installed. It's very nice and a lot of functionality.
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What launcher can I use that will still keep the standard sense? I guess I can use a launcher that also brings back a email widget like the HTC sense one since its been removed in sense 5. Any suggestions?
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Not sure if there is one. I'll be doing more investigating to see how I can fix more of the AT&T 'helpers.'
For example, to delete that annoying 'Device Help' bookmark that you can't delete in Chrome, go into Internet and delete it there.
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Furthermore, ATT has really ****ty spectrum for building penetration. Since they lost their entire allocation of 700mhz spectrum to Tmobile in the failed merger, their 1700mhz spectrum does not penetrate buildings as well, which has an entirely adverse affect on the metal body already having signal drawbacks.
I'll see how mine works when I get it in a few hours.
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What? I was under the impression that a portion in certain areas are being shared... I dont believe that AT&T gave up all their 700MHz spectrum to TMO.
Would really be nice to be able to use the Car app. It's on the list under Settings > Apps > All, but everything is greyed out. It would be nice if we could get this to work without a custom launcher. I'd like to try it out on my way to work.
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Would really be nice to be able to use the Car app. It's on the list under Settings > Apps > All, but everything is greyed out. It would be nice if we could get this to work without a custom launcher. I'd like to try it out on my way to work.
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I use apps that let you add a shortcut to any app (include those hidden by the launcher.. The only thing is you still won't see the app listed in the normal app list in Sense 5, but it will be accessible from the home screens, so for me that's good enough.
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I use apps that let you add a shortcut to any app (include those hidden by the launcher.. The only thing is you still won't see the app listed in the normal app list in Sense 5, but it will be accessible from the home screens, so for me that's good enough.
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Can you help us out and tell us the name of one of these apps? I tried searching in the Play store without success.
mchinand said:
Can you help us out and tell us the name of one of these apps? I tried searching in the Play store without success.
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Co-signed.
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Co-signed.
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I just used QuickShortcutMaker. It'll let you search for applications or actions and make shortcuts for them. Search "Car".
it won't put it in the app drawer but it will put an icon on your homescreen.
apps to create shortcuts to Car app
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Can you help us out and tell us the name of one of these apps? I tried searching in the Play store without success.
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I am using Power Toggles, which is typically used for turning things like wifi/bt/gps on & off, but also lets you use app shortcut as one of the toggle button. Another one I think will work is Desktop VisualizeR which lets you create custom icons. There many others that will have similar function other than the ones I mentioned, but these are the ones I have tried myself.
Are there any other apps you guys have found are missing/hidden on the AT&T version?
I believe since AT&T has that 'DONT TEXT AND DRIVE' thing and they implemented their own AT&T Drive App - This may be why it was not included in our version.
Thanks for the tip. I loaded the shortcutmaker and found the car app and made the shortcut. Worked perfectly.
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