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Hello world!
So, before having the Galaxy S 2, I had a Galaxy 3 i5801, and one of the innovative features that have appeared (IMO) was the "Voodoo Sound".
The developer "marcellusbe" (i think) made the port of "Voodoo Sound" for G3, which is now used in almost all custom kernels for this device.
With this, I'd like to know when this fantastic function will be developed for our Galaxy S II
Galaxy S2 lacks hardware specs for Voodoo sound.its not possible.
Regards,
Karan.
karan999 said:
Galaxy S2 lacks hardware specs for Voodoo sound.its not possible.
Regards,
Karan.
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Are you sure?
So, the Galaxy S 2 (that is a highEnd quality phone) has worst sound hardware than the G3?
celiocalves said:
Are you sure?
So, the Galaxy S 2 (that is a highEnd quality phone) has worst sound hardware than the G3?
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Cant compare it to the G3 but yes...the Yamaha chip doesnt output the sound quality as the original Galaxy S.
It lacks bass and gets distorted.
I as a SGS2 user, am satisfied using the in-ear earphones from Sony and Sennheiser CX180.
But when i use my Sony MDR V700 DJ headphones, there is absolutely no bass and the volume too is very very low.
i too am very much disappointed with the sound quality of the GS2.
Regards.
karan999 said:
Cant compare it to the G3 but yes...the Yamaha chip doesnt output the sound quality as the original Galaxy S.
It lacks bass and gets distorted.
I as a SGS2 user, am satisfied using the in-ear earphones from Sony and Sennheiser CX180.
But when i use my Sony MDR V700 DJ headphones, there is absolutely no bass and the volume too is very very low.
i too am very much disappointed with the sound quality of the GS2.
Regards.
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btw, very bad news
This device should be a better sound than low-cost devices...
Disappointed with samsung!
Anyway thanks for the information!
celiocalves said:
Hello world!
So, before having the Galaxy S 2, I had a Galaxy 3 i5801, and one of the innovative features that have appeared (IMO) was the "Voodoo Sound".
The developer "marcellusbe" (i think) made the port of "Voodoo Sound" for G3, which is now used in almost all custom kernels for this device.
With this, I'd like to know when this fantastic function will be developed for our Galaxy S II
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I too hope voodoo sound will find its way on the SGS2! In the meantime (as with the SGS1) I developed AudioBoost for this device to have a more powerful output (I use it mostly attached to my car hifi)...and I think it works great coupled with PowerAmp player (the stock Samsung's one uses some ****ty equalizer which provides lots of distortions)!
So in my opinion the chip is not that bad (of course the other one was better, but less powerful), it just needs good equalization!
carlocb said:
I too hope voodoo sound will find its way on the SGS2! In the meantime (as with the SGS1) I developed AudioBoost for this device to have a more powerful output (I use it mostly attached to my car hifi)...and I think it works great coupled with PowerAmp player (the stock Samsung's one uses some ****ty equalizer which provides lots of distortions)!
So in my opinion the chip is not that bad (of course the other one was better, but less powerful), it just needs good equalization!
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AudioBoost is available for galaxy S 2?
I want voodoo sound only to attached to my car hifi too.
On my old G3 I used the "headphone amplifier" option to increase dB without distortion to have more volume.
i can confirm that audioboost works really well with poweramp...even with stock headphones the sound is great using the above combination.
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jj03 said:
i can confirm that audioboost works really well with poweramp...even with stock headphones the sound is great using the above combination.
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COOL!
So, maybe I will test it
celiocalves said:
COOL!
So, maybe I will test it
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podes testar funciona as mil maravilhas... ate funciona na MIUI beta 7
yes u can test it works.. even on MIUI beta 7
dj_suca said:
podes testar funciona as mil maravilhas... ate funciona na MIUI beta 7
yes u can test it works.. even on MIUI beta 7
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Mais um cá da terra! obrigadão!
I was also quite disappointed with the sound volume coming from a voodoo'd i9000
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I can't download Voodoo sound from the Market, My phone is greyed out, perhaps this is why, it doesn't work with the SGS2
slugger09 said:
I can't download Voodoo sound from the Market, My phone is greyed out, perhaps this is why, it doesn't work with the SGS2
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This post made my day!
Thanks!
kahvitahra said:
This post made my day!
Thanks!
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Care to explain? Voodoo Control "THIS ITEM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR DEVICE"
If you want to improve your sound output, you can try dsp manager! There is thread for dsp on sgs2!
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Any tips on improving sound recording as well?
Tried recording at a few concerts and it was utter crap (just like the sgs originally was before the voodoo improvements). Massive distortion and noise and crackling.
Such a shame from such a powerful device...
slugger09 said:
Care to explain? Voodoo Control "THIS ITEM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR DEVICE"
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As someone explained few posts before, the SGS 2 Hardware does not support voodoo sound!
I heard rumors that supercurio is working on Voodoo sound for SGS2? Found nothing at github, but is it true?
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I heard rumors that supercurio is working on Voodoo sound for SGS2? Found nothing at github, but is it true?
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No, he has released an app that raises the volume, no voodoo sound as the dac is different.
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Hey guys. I own a Samsung Galaxy S II and is currently running Resurrection Remix on it. I so cool rom, however I would very much like to improve the audio quality so I can hear better. Is there any way to tweak the quality? It is very important to me, since I have some hearing loss :-(
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Hey guys. I own a Samsung Galaxy S II and is currently running Resurrection Remix on it. I so cool rom, however I would very much like to improve the audio quality so I can hear better. Is there any way to tweak the quality? It is very important to me, since I have some hearing loss :-(
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If you're running resurrection, try changing settings in dsp manager. You can select headphones, bluetooth and speaker settings and tweak different things there. Might help if you're using bluetooth / headphones.. Hope it helps!
Try a Music Player off the Play Store, PowerAmp is a good choice. Many different tweaks such as bass, treble, increased volume booster. Also try a different pair of headphones, maybe in ear ones that can produce a better quality sound than say open backed over ear headphones.
Chris.
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Hey guys
Thanks for your answer, but I'm talking about the call quality when speaking with others thru my phone
no help there? :/
Try the KH3 modem. It seems to be the best samsung could come up with. Has better call clarity and faster gps fix, does not heat up the phone compared to other modems.
You should really state what you are actually looking for in your first post. It could have meant audio quality out of the phones speaker, audio quality through headphones, or in your case, audio quality when speaking to somebody.
Anyway, as suggested, try a different modem. Here is a link to a thread with all modems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131950
Modems work across all OS's so don't worry about matching them. I use the Baseband I9100NELP2, but what is good for me mightn't be good for you. The idea of modems is to test them for better signal, call quality, GPS, download speeds etc.
Chris.
On the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 with Android 4.4.2 OTA update, is there anyway to tweak the audio quality of the speaker so sounds do not play as if they are being "covered up" by a blanket?
It's hard to explain, but, whenever I make a call to a person, the clarity of the sound isn't clear; its a little distorted, even at medium volume levels.
Is there an app that can tweak with Equalizer settings or handle the Audio playback settings to make the sound playback a little more clear and not like it's coming from under a rock?
This is happening to me with calls and playback of media files. It sounds too distorted (or under heavy cover up).
Is this normal for the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 to sound worse than the Sprint Galaxy S3 (which I had before and didn't have this sound quality issue as much)?
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On the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 with Android 4.4.2 OTA update, is there anyway to tweak the audio quality of the speaker so sounds do not play as if they are being "covered up" by a blanket?
It's hard to explain, but, whenever I make a call to a person, the clarity of the sound isn't clear; its a little distorted, even at medium volume levels.
Is there an app that can tweak with Equalizer settings or handle the Audio playback settings to make the sound playback a little more clear and not like it's coming from under a rock?
This is happening to me with calls and playback of media files. It sounds too distorted (or under heavy cover up).
Is this normal for the Sprint Galaxy Note 3 to sound worse than the Sprint Galaxy S3 (which I had before and didn't have this sound quality issue as much)?
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Are you rooted or not? If yes, then you have a ton, if not, then I know of few...
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micmars said:
Are you rooted or not? If yes, then you have a ton, if not, then I know of few...
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Yes, I am rooted on 4.4.2.
Also, is there a well-balanced preset audio quality tweaking settings I can apply? I ask this because Sprint Galaxy Note 3s should be the same pretty much, and I thought that people have found a perfect Equalization or sound balancing values that would make a balance between clarity and good music playback, without sacrificing both.
There are apps that can fine tune those specifics for me if I have root? I really don't want to play around with sliders to figure it out... unless I am told values that others have had success with.
tdr2013 said:
Yes, I am rooted on 4.4.2.
Also, is there a well-balanced preset audio quality tweaking settings I can apply? I ask this because Sprint Galaxy Note 3s should be the same pretty much, and I thought that people have found a perfect Equalization or sound balancing values that would make a balance between clarity and good music playback, without sacrificing both.
There are apps that can fine tune those specifics for me if I have root? I really don't want to play around with sliders to figure it out... unless I am told values that others have had success with.
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The only sound mod of which I'm aware is the mixer paths edit, and it busts your radio antenna.
Far better to go with viper4android and call it a day.
Loud and clear is what you'll get, as well as perfectly balanced, professionally sampled audio quality.
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micmars said:
The only sound mod of which I'm aware is the mixer paths edit, and it busts your radio antenna.
Far better to go with viper4android and call it a day.
Loud and clear is what you'll get, as well as perfectly balanced, professionally sampled audio quality.
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Thank you for leading me to this mod. Loud and clear is definitely the only thing I am getting from viper4android. I wish I had found this sooner for my Galaxy s3. Maan, all the sound I was missing out on...
Thanks again!
micmars said:
The only sound mod of which I'm aware is the mixer paths edit, and it busts your radio antenna.
Far better to go with viper4android and call it a day.
Loud and clear is what you'll get, as well as perfectly balanced, professionally sampled audio quality.
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One question: How do I enable the Viper4android preset to change in realtime as im playing music from thr samsung music app? Sometimes, the change would take effect immediately and now it has not changed or affected anymore songs that are played after.
Its as if the preset and viper4android simply stopped working.
How do I make it working all the time? The driver status says enabled Yes, Neo supported Yes, and processing No.
You have to go into your build prop and edit
lpa.decode=false
lpa.use-stagefright=false
Make sure it says false
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Hi guys, I would like to ask, if you are using any kernel/mod which is improving sound quality (headphones) of the S6 Edge.
I believe that it is just software issue, as there is Wolfson DAC and I always liked its sound (SGS1, SGS3). I have a good headphones (UE TrippleFi) and I'm using also great app (Neutron).
Yesterday I compared my S6 Edge to the S3 with the same setup (same headphones, same settings in Neutron, no effects active) and the S3 sounded better. Big time.
Sound on the S6 is to me narrower and kinda without life. Missing the low end and also upper lows, boring mids and too much highs.
I believe that this can be somehow sorted (maybe it already is and I just dont know about it), so I'm asking if any of you know some solution.
Thanks a lot!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/viper4android-2-4-0-1-neon-enabled-t3310716
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/viper4android-2-4-0-1-neon-enabled-t3310716
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Thank you for your reply. I know viper but as far as I know it is only a software tool, EQ if you like. I have pretty versatile EQ in Neutron, so this is not what I was looking for.
What I had in mind was something which can control DAC directly. Something like Boeffla Sound which controlled the DAC itself so I could bypass any Samsung crap or whatever is causing this sound issue.
JezzyWeed said:
Thank you for your reply. I know viper but as far as I know it is only a software tool, EQ if you like. I have pretty versatile EQ in Neutron, so this is not what I was looking for.
What I had in mind was something which can control DAC directly. Something like Boeffla Sound which controlled the DAC itself so I could bypass any Samsung crap or whatever is causing this sound issue.
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I completely feel with you.
I also own the s1, s3 and the s6 edge because of the Wolfson DAC. The one included on the Snapdragon Galaxies like s5 is worse...
One the s1 I used voodoo sound on the s3 Boefla kernel with boefla sound....
AFAIK there is no custom kernel with direct DAC control features available, that sux.....
I myself modified the audio_effect.conf (removed the soundalive libraries) and the mixerpaths.xml (more output power) in order to get more power and to remove the soundalive and adapt sound crap from Samsung. Besides of that I have frozen both apps and use viper4android instead of them.
viper4android isn't just an equalizer it is a powerful sound pre-processing tool.
Although there is no custom kernel for direct DAC control and bypass features I guess to have managed it sounding as good as the s3 now.....
Anyway it would be great to get a kernel which can bypass that Samsung stuff already and has got direct DAC and stuff like Boefla sound and or voodoo sound...
BTW: Great to have somebody like you who also appreciates pure Wolfson sound..
The superior Wolfson DAC quality made me to refuse to get an Galaxy S with a Snapdragon.....
Vaira said:
I completely feel with you.
I also own the s1, s3 and the s6 edge because of the Wolfson DAC. The one included on the Snapdragon Galaxies like s5 is worse...
One the s1 I used voodoo sound on the s3 Boefla kernel with boefla sound....
AFAIK there is no custom kernel with direct DAC control features available, that sux.....
I myself modified the audio_effect.conf (removed the soundalive libraries) and the mixerpaths.xml (more output power) in order to get more power and to remove the soundalive and adapt sound crap from Samsung. Besides of that I have frozen both apps and use viper4android instead of them.
viper4android isn't just an equalizer it is a powerful sound pre-processing tool.
Although there is no custom kernel for direct DAC control and bypass features I guess to have managed it sounding as good as the s3 now.....
Anyway it would be great to get a kernel which can bypass that Samsung stuff already and has got direct DAC and stuff like Boefla sound and or voodoo sound...
BTW: Great to have somebody like you who also appreciates pure Wolfson sound..
The superior Wolfson DAC quality made me to refuse to get an Galaxy S with a Snapdragon.....
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You lady (I guess by the username) are reading my mind. I was absolutely the same. After I was pleased by Wolfson on the SGS1 it was one of the main reasons I got S3 and S6 Edge.
About the Viper though, I don´t feel that way. I tested it on my S3 and I wasn´t able to hear any notable difference (Neutron itself is very good signal processor). I don´t use EQ for my headphones as they sound great as they are and I want to hear the track how it should be. I use EQ only on a speaker to fine tune it. Thus I didn´t really used any of its features. As you know we need the DAC Control
And about those changes you made, is it significantly better? Uuu and you might help me. So far, in all ROM threads I asked no one answered my question. I´m looking for ROM in which you can set up the Volume steps. Neither guys in CarHD or CrissCross threads answered this question. And this is crucial function to me as the regular 15 steps makes huge leaps. Thanks!
JezzyWeed said:
You lady (I guess by the username) are reading my mind. I was absolutely the same. After I was pleased by Wolfson on the SGS1 it was one of the main reasons I got S3 and S6 Edge.
About the Viper though, I don´t feel that way. I tested it on my S3 and I wasn´t able to hear any notable difference (Neutron itself is very good signal processor). I don´t use EQ for my headphones as they sound great as they are and I want to hear the track how it should be. I use EQ only on a speaker to fine tune it. Thus I didn´t really used any of its features. As you know we need the DAC Control
And about those changes you made, is it significantly better? Uuu and you might help me. So far, in all ROM threads I asked no one answered my question. I´m looking for ROM in which you can set up the Volume steps. Neither guys in CarHD or CrissCross threads answered this question. And this is crucial function to me as the regular 15 steps makes huge leaps. Thanks!
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Hello again,
I am male even though my nick might sound female, lol.
Well, I thought somebody would create a kernel with those DAC control features for the S6 Edge sooner or later, but nothing so far….
I thought when I’ve got the S6 Edge on April what can I do myself?
I can remove Samsungs pre-processing and I can gain more power on volume…that’s all. I cannot modify the kernel myself that way…..
First I noticed that the s6 isn’t loud enough due to that odd EU volume restriction.
I knew setting some values at the mixer_paths.xml might raise volume level.
To introduce more steps I found not necessary, though. Besides of that I do not know how to achieve that TBH.
Reading on the viper4android thread concerning the s6 edge I noticed that the neon drivers of it do not run on enforcing kernel….
So I used a script run by chainfire’s super su on start which allows them libraries run when enforcing…additionally I had a look on the audio_effect.conf where Samsung’s own processing libs are called……
Yes it is significantly better than pure stock defaults…sound alive and adapt sound removed, volume increased, viper4android neon drivers running and much trial and error to get proper settings….
And yes I neither used viper4android on the Galaxy S nor on the s3. It wasn’t necessary at all.
But on the S6 with current possibilities I decided to go for it.
It is the best I could get myself….. I am using Samsung’s stock player with custom viper4android profile…..as said I guess I have managed it to have it as good as the s3 has been….
I am still running android 5.0.2 since I am pingpong rooted and to not want to trip KNOX (not for warranty reasons but for personal idealistic reasons, lol)
I modified anything myself by exchanging the files.
Maybe one should email the dev of Boeffla asking if he ever will develop for the s6 edge….in the meantime I am afraid that this is the only solution, to remove the Samsung’s own processing libs/apps which concern headphone output and to use viper4android and a volume mod instead of…
Here is my post where I published the way I have running it till today: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61526054&postcount=253
If you compare the files with the originals you should find out how to modify the current ones as well…
I don’t know what current custom roms can do.
But I’d suggest to try one which comes with viper4android and a volume mod included. Maybe you come close to the s3 as well...
Vaira said:
Hello again,
I am male even though my nick might sound female, lol.
Well, I thought somebody would create a kernel with those DAC control features for the S6 Edge sooner or later, but nothing so far….
I thought when I’ve got the S6 Edge on April what can I do myself?
I can remove Samsungs pre-processing and I can gain more power on volume…that’s all. I cannot modify the kernel myself that way…..
First I noticed that the s6 isn’t loud enough due to that odd EU volume restriction.
I knew setting some values at the mixer_paths.xml might raise volume level.
To introduce more steps I found not necessary, though. Besides of that I do not know how to achieve that TBH.
Reading on the viper4android thread concerning the s6 edge I noticed that the neon drivers of it do not run on enforcing kernel….
So I used a script run by chainfire’s super su on start which allows them libraries run when enforcing…additionally I had a look on the audio_effect.conf where Samsung’s own processing libs are called……
Yes it is significantly better than pure stock defaults…sound alive and adapt sound removed, volume increased, viper4android neon drivers running and much trial and error to get proper settings….
And yes I neither used viper4android on the Galaxy S nor on the s3. It wasn’t necessary at all.
But on the S6 with current possibilities I decided to go for it.
It is the best I could get myself….. I am using Samsung’s stock player with custom viper4android profile…..as said I guess I have managed it to have it as good as the s3 has been….
I am still running android 5.0.2 since I am pingpong rooted and to not want to trip KNOX (not for warranty reasons but for personal idealistic reasons, lol)
I modified anything myself by exchanging the files.
Maybe one should email the dev of Boeffla asking if he ever will develop for the s6 edge….in the meantime I am afraid that this is the only solution, to remove the Samsung’s own processing libs/apps which concern headphone output and to use viper4android and a volume mod instead of…
Here is my post where I published the way I have running it till today: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61526054&postcount=253
If you compare the files with the originals you should find out how to modify the current ones as well…
I don’t know what current custom roms can do.
But I’d suggest to try one which comes with viper4android and a volume mod included. Maybe you come close to the s3 as well...
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Haha sorry for calling you a lady then I was surprised that a girl would have such interest in this geeky stuff, but one never know!
I will defo read trough your list of changes and try em out probably. Altough I never had a problem with volume as my headphones are in ear and they are pretty loud. I´m never listening louder than about 50%.
One last thing if I could ask you. Would you be so nice and try out the Neutron music player? It is super powerful player with plenty of customization. I find its sound much better than PowerAmp or other players. If you have a good headphones you should notice the difference immediately. If so, Neutron has free trial app and I can post you list of possible best settings. To my knowledge, Neutron do bypass all software processing and listen directly do DAC. I just want to hear from you if you find using Neutron made your listening experience better or not. Feel free to just send me to the hell
Sit rep: I sent a text to Mr. Boeffla and unfortunately I have to tell you bad news.
In his statement he said, that he is not developing for Samsung anymore as well he is not buying any of their products, so there is no chance he is going to develop anything for our S6/Edge :/ Well, at least we know!
Thank you for the update. It’s a shame that Andy won’t develop a kernel for the s6 edge, anyway I can comprehend his reasons to be disappointed/frustrated about Samsung.
I’ll give Neutron a try, thanks for the hint!
I need to find time for excessive testing, though. But I’ll definitively do it. If it’s better I’ll buy it.
The modifications at sound_effects.conf are necessary to get rid of Samsung’s pre-processing from their stock player. 3rd party player can run DAC directly…..
I tried many different players and came to the conclusion Samsung’s own is one of the best choice.
Poweramp is one of the worst IMHO.
A friend is using playerpro and is very satisfied.
I have got 2 completely different headphones. One is for classical music and the other for rock/electro.
Concerning output volume it depends on impedance of the headphone. I do not like in ears, though. Over the ear or on ear with higher impedance required a volume boost by modifying that xml.
Vaira said:
Thank you for the update. It’s a shame that Andy won’t develop a kernel for the s6 edge, anyway I can comprehend his reasons to be disappointed/frustrated about Samsung.
I’ll give Neutron a try, thanks for the hint!
I need to find time for excessive testing, though. But I’ll definitively do it. If it’s better I’ll buy it.
The modifications at sound_effects.conf are necessary to get rid of Samsung’s pre-processing from their stock player. 3rd party player can run DAC directly…..
I tried many different players and came to the conclusion Samsung’s own is one of the best choice.
Poweramp is one of the worst IMHO.
A friend is using playerpro and is very satisfied.
I have got 2 completely different headphones. One is for classical music and the other for rock/electro.
Concerning output volume it depends on impedance of the headphone. I do not like in ears, though. Over the ear or on ear with higher impedance required a volume boost by modifying that xml.
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Oh in that point I totaly see why you needed to boost volume. I prefer in ear as they isolate noise and therefore I can keep volume down.
Definately give a try to Neutron, I already bought their app as it is the one I use most and Im super satisfied. Years ago I was at poweramp but then I tried Neutron and never ever went back. The clarity of the highs and detail of lows in completely somewhere else. If you'd like I can send here some useful tips how to set up the Neutron. But if you are not audio noob, what I guess youre not you will find your head around. They have also very good faq at their website to answer most questions. Many users are complaining about the UI, but I think that once you learn how to use it you wont go back. My top tip about UI, would be to dissable swipe to skip track in UI settings so you can use swipe to change the screens. Please let me know how you like Neutron
And for future, I guess we just have to pray for some dev to unlock DAC and amp capabilities for us. Maybe some port of the boeffla sound concerning its Wolfson?!
Hi, just dropping a note that I did not forget to test Neutron....
Recently I am busy with other stuff though...not sure when I get a spare weekend....
I probably update to 6.0.1 first......
Cya again...
JezzyWeed said:
Oh in that point I totaly see why you needed to boost volume. I prefer in ear as they isolate noise and therefore I can keep volume down.
Definately give a try to Neutron, I already bought their app as it is the one I use most and Im super satisfied. Years ago I was at poweramp but then I tried Neutron and never ever went back. The clarity of the highs and detail of lows in completely somewhere else. If you'd like I can send here some useful tips how to set up the Neutron. But if you are not audio noob, what I guess youre not you will find your head around. They have also very good faq at their website to answer most questions. Many users are complaining about the UI, but I think that once you learn how to use it you wont go back. My top tip about UI, would be to dissable swipe to skip track in UI settings so you can use swipe to change the screens. Please let me know how you like Neutron
And for future, I guess we just have to pray for some dev to unlock DAC and amp capabilities for us. Maybe some port of the boeffla sound concerning its Wolfson?!
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Hi again,
I successfully updated to 6.0.1. I 've rooted it and tripped KNOX and installed Viper4Android. (Wrote a how to here @xda).
And I had time to install the evaluation version of Neutron.....4 days left.
As a 'first' impression I can say (after 3 hours of testing) that it is a decent player. It sounds better than Samsung stock player and has more features.....the UI isn't that bad.
ANYWAY: Without viper you don't get by far the best listening experience....
Pure Neutron output has still a narrow 'confined' sound. It is better than Samsung pure stock sound though....
In combination with Viper it seems Neutron is better than stock, but need to test that next 4 days....
Maybe you can post some Neutron settings you are using?
P.S.: You need to test viper4Android, it is amazing...it definitely improves your sound experience, Neutron alone cannot perfom that..
I'll come back for a final opinion...
Vaira said:
Hi again,
I successfully updated to 6.0.1. I 've rooted it and tripped KNOX and installed Viper4Android. (Wrote a how to here @xda).
And I had time to install the evaluation version of Neutron.....4 days left.
As a 'first' impression I can say (after 3 hours of testing) that it is a decent player. It sounds better than Samsung stock player and has more features.....the UI isn't that bad.
ANYWAY: Without viper you don't get by far the best listening experience....
Pure Neutron output has still a narrow 'confined' sound. It is better than Samsung pure stock sound though....
In combination with Viper it seems Neutron is better than stock, but need to test that next 4 days....
Maybe you can post some Neutron settings you are using?
P.S.: You need to test viper4Android, it is amazing...it definitely improves your sound experience, Neutron alone cannot perfom that..
I'll come back for a final opinion...
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Oh so nice of you man.
Glad to hear that you like Neutron, it is really a feature packed player (10 band parametric eq with a choice of a filter, just wau).
Thanks to you I will test the viper on the s6. Only reason why I didnt do that was my previous negative experience on the s3.
Settings Im using and which are relevant to sound are:
Resampling - Audiophile
Replay gain off
Gain protection off
64 bit processing on (it influence only the eq)
audio hardware - lattecies to minimum, dither on, hardware gain on, audio focus on, generic driver on, 32 bit output on, frequency 48k.
Hope it helps
JezzyWeed said:
Oh so nice of you man.
Glad to hear that you like Neutron, it is really a feature packed player (10 band parametric eq with a choice of a filter, just wau).
Thanks to you I will test the viper on the s6. Only reason why I didnt do that was my previous negative experience on the s3.
Settings Im using and which are relevant to sound are:
Resampling - Audiophile
Replay gain off
Gain protection off
64 bit processing on (it influence only the eq)
audio hardware - lattecies to minimum, dither on, hardware gain on, audio focus on, generic driver on, 32 bit output on, frequency 48k.
Hope it helps
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Thanks. I have basically the same settings. Although I noticed when using preamp and gain protection one does not need to modify the mixer_paths to gain more volume. (headphones with a higher impedance)
Neutron player is by far loud enough out of the box.....
Considering the player alone, I have to say Neutron is the best one I have tried so far. The EQ is fantastic and highly customisable.
But together with viper the difference to stock player is not big anymore...better said it is very hard since you need to adjust viper to Neutron as well.....
At some tracks I'd say the overall result is better on Neutron plus viper....but would it justify to spend more than 6 bucks?
It depends on kind of music and quality, even though I do not have them worse than 320 MP3s...
Still testing...I needed a break since testing too much makes one feel like I know nothing anymore...which settings are better.
When testing viper goto UI setting and switch to 'expert'.
Do not use the EQ at first...
Try playbackagc, viperddc, differential surround, reverberation, dynamic system, viper bass and viper clarity...
Try to find a combination of some of them enabled and adjusted...leave the other viper settings alone at first...
I'll test more..cu again
OK, my Neutron player has been expired.
For users without root it is probably the best player....
For users with root viper4android is a must have. IMHO.
It is amazing and almost unbelievable what the programmer of viper4android has achieved....I seems nobody of the pros (Samsung/Sony/HTC) can reach that with their DSP soft...
Also the current players available cannot...
The S3 with boeffla sound engine is a combination that sounds very good without viper, but it seems that is an exception.
If you want I can try to make a viper4android 'default' which sounds 'relatively' good (but better than without) on a greater variety of headphones and can upload it....so you could start from there...
Just drop an reply...either way enjoy your rig
BTW: I have asked 2 kernel devs if they can port boeffla sound engine to the s6 kernel...no answer yet....
Vaira said:
OK, my Neutron player has been expired.
For users without root it is probably the best player....
For users with root viper4android is a must have. IMHO.
It is amazing and almost unbelievable what the programmer of viper4android has achieved....I seems nobody of the pros (Samsung/Sony/HTC) can reach that with their DSP soft...
Also the current players available cannot...
The S3 with boeffla sound engine is a combination that sounds very good without viper, but it seems that is an exception.
If you want I can try to make a viper4android 'default' which sounds 'relatively' good (but better than without) on a greater variety of headphones and can upload it....so you could start from there...
Just drop an reply...either way enjoy your rig
BTW: I have asked 2 kernel devs if they can port boeffla sound engine to the s6 kernel...no answer yet....
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Sorry for my response time, I've been busy.
Moving to a new place and work mostly.
But I also bought a new cable for my headphones so I'm still testing/enjoying
Hope you're good
Hi, all audio enthusiasts!
So recently I purchased a pair of Sennheiser IE80. These IEMs are known to be VERY sensitive and thus you need a really good DAC unless you want background noise in your music.
When I first plugged these IEMs into my phone I was hugely disappointed, the sound was pretty good I guess but there was this constant annoying background noise whenever audio was playing. This was noticeable even when listening to high tempo EDM music with a very low dynamic range, and when I tried some acoustic music with a higher dynamic range the background hiss completely ruined the music experience for me.
Disappointed as I was I decided to ditch LOS and get back to stock and try the audio there since I've always poor battery life on ALL nougat Roms anyway I decided to try the latest Stock Marshmallow build (B11).
The standard HiFi option sounded very poor, I think even worse than LOS but I'm not completely sure as A/B testing is practically impossible. When I turned on the Super Hifi option, however, ALL background hiss had vanished and the sound just got to another level!!! This could only mean two things; either LOS based Roms have some very funky audio processing or (whats most likely) Only stock builds use the best DAC which is presumably the AKM 4491. I haven't tried Nougat but I suspect that the audio is more or less the same ass on Marshmallow.
TL-DR: Only stock build uses the best DAC (AKM 4491).
Where to turn on the Super Hifi option?
It is using the AK dac without genuine drivers. It is not going to sound great the way it is being forced to work. If drivers could be found then maybe it would be like stock.
Sui77 said:
Where to turn on the Super Hifi option?
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Sound and vibration --> Headset HiFi --> Super
RUNNERX said:
It is using the AK dac without genuine drivers. It is not going to sound great the way it is being forced to work. If drivers could be found then maybe it would be like stock.
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Yeah this could be accurate. Anyway LOS has hiss, Stock with Super setting doesn't.
Has anyone tried this fix for LOS rom? Or the latest nightly if the patch is merged?
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Has anyone tried this fix for LOS rom? Or the latest nightly if the patch is merged?
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That was merged mid to late April. It is on all of the Los/asop roms now.
I dont know many why many people using wrong DAC number it should be AKM4490 or 4961