I did some searching but, though there are plenty of similar (very) old posts, they either have no solution or the issue does not match mine.
I (obviously) own an i9100 (used, which came with the first two batteries that I will list in a moment), with AOSB KK and stock kernel, no battery regulation apps.
I also own 3 (three) Samsung original batteries: an old 2011-dated, a mid-new 2013-dated, a brand new 2014-dated.
I bought the last one because it felt to me like the first one could use some rest, its average life time IS 8 hrs usage + 7 deep sleep.
Before I bought the new one, I firstly tried the mid one (2013), but experienced the following: average life time 5 hrs usage + shutdown when battery still signs ~20%, no way to turn it back on but to plug in the charger and wait 10-15 minutes. This ALWAYS happens, it's not a matter of one-two days usage, I've been trying this battery for some weeks (not continuously, since its behaviour is very annoying) switching different kernels and roms, no way to make it work properly.
So I said "ok, guess it is faulty, I will stick to the old one unitll I decide to actually buy a brand new one", which I did, 4 days ago.
Guess what, same behaviour as the 2013 one, no difference; same life time, same death at ~20%.
2 faulty batteries out of 3? Doesn't sound possible to me.
Phone issue? Then why does the old 2011 one works correctly, with normal death at 0%?
Hi, I'm also having a few issues with my battery now, but mine is the original one, so I've used it for about one and half years.
Have you seen/used this kind of battery? The only think I'm interested in is the higher ampere-hour capacity, but I'm a bit hesitant about the brand.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/350791460553?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
No I bought only one original samsung (the other two came with the phone), though via ebay, so it COULD be fake...
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There are some tempting things on ebay, but this one looks very dubious. The only interesting thing is the higher capacity and the low price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321327792803?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
No I highly discourage buying any of the golden ones, there are plenty of negative comments about them around the net, with some cases of battery explosion.
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Gotcha. I wasn't really going to, but now I'm absolutely not going to.
Ok some news for the detectives:
1) I've installed a time-voltage-percentage logger, and noticed that somehow, with the two new batteries, the system isn't able to correctly understand where is the bottom value. Let's just say that in semi-idle mode, with normal background processes on, it often relates ~50% to a stable 3.70V, which is (as far as my aknowledge goes) way too low to be halfway the charge. If 4.2V is the maximum value, the battery shouldn't drop below ~3.4V, so I'd say 3.70V is about 25%, almost time to give me an alert to plug in the charger!
2) For other reasons, I went to recovery mode, and noticed it actually signed my battery level at 20% (3.70V - 50% in the logger, just a couple seconds earlier, inside the ROM). As soon as I rebooted, the system seemed to syncro with the recovery, to a reasonable 20%. (The logger shows a drop from 3.70 50% to 3.69 20% in a single step, with a resolution of a step every minute)
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Has anyone tried this baby yet? If You have then please some feedback.
I bought one a couple months ago when i bought my hermes, it does add a good centimeter to the phone's thickness, but i think it's oh so worth it.
i.e. - Regular battery with regular use(internet here and there, no music) I *might* get a day and a half before it's completely dead.
3000mAh battery - With regular to heavy use after 3 days i still usually have around 40% battery left. Best thing I've ever bought for my phone, except for maybe my jawbone 2 headset ^^
oh speaking of that, with a bluetooth headset synched to my hermes with the regular battery it's dead in a day, whereas again, I avg about 3 or so with the 3000mAh with the bluetooth headset synched all day everyday.
its 2X of the standard 1350mAH
Hi, I have the 1500mAh Li-POL, exactly same size as the original.
I can't really say if the duration is really better than the original one when new. I had a different ROM/Radio and have no intention to get back to WM5 just to test.
By the way, lately I observed a faster drain (anyway more than 1 day with normal use) but might be related to a Radio downgrade carried by an installed ROM. I hope I can give new (and more positive) info when I upgrade the Radio again.
Sounds good to me, i will get one sometime, if i can get double the battery life out of my hermes, i will be happy
how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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how much does it (3000mAh battery) cost ?
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£14 from a quick search on ebay UK. No sign of a 3000mAh on Dealextreme yet though (99% cheapest supplier!)
I have a 2800mah I've been using for a while, def improvement on the stock one but I'd quite like a second high capacity one to keep in my pocket.
best $16 spent EVER!! i love my battery it takes me whole 3days to kill it including playing MP3's, Internet, Texting and camera. GET IT YOU WON'T BE SORRY
is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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is there a risk with using non genuine batteries?
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I picked up one of the 3000mAh extended batteries several months back after my original stopped holding much charge. Great battery life on the new one, but after a while I started noticing odd issues popping up. The LED would show yellow instead of green, and I'd get the red charging failure led every so often.
Now those could have just been the age of the phone (almost 3 years old now with heavy and abusive use), but the main issue I know was the extended battery was the unit randomly started powering off. Often this would happen if I had the phone in my pocket, so I thought maybe the battery wasn't making a solid connection. Then it started happening when I had it laying on a table. I may have just gotten a bad battery out of the bunch, but it definitely doesn't seem up to snuff compared to OEM.
I've since gone back to using my original battery with it sitting on the charger almost all day. Never powers off randomly anymore. Just my 2 cents.
Edit: I should note that if you go through a reputable battery seller you shouldn't have any issues. I went through ebay and picked up the extended battery + cover + car charger for ~$15. I wasn't expecting much from the battery
My S740 is now coming up to one year old. For various reasons I have had 2 batteries for the device which are both of a similar age.
Anyhow, normally I get a full days use out of a battery however on a very busy day I may end up changing to the 2nd battery around 5pm.
In recent weeks, every now and then the battery will be dead after only a few hours even under light use. After a full charge, it is fine again giving full days of use.
I have checked there are no programs running in the background etc and can't see any pattern to this.
This happens when using either of the batteries and is really annoying.
So if this random discharging a sign of the batteries failing or something more sinister? Has anybody else seen similar things? I am happy to buy a new battery but at £30 don't want to then find the same problems again
Thanks
I've only been using this phone for about a month now and agree the battery can be quite erratic!
I don't think it's anything to with the phone 'failing'. I've had quite a few smart phones and to be honest it just seems to be common practice for these types of phones to have a strange battery life.
Some days from a full charge I can get up to 2.5 days! Other from a full charge it will run down completely in under a day.
I'm going to invest in one of those extended batteries, the battery capacity on those is more then double that of the standard battery. Sure it adds a bit more bulk to the phone but I kind of like that, will turn it into a proper beast!!
My phone's battery-life is also erratic (and limited anyway).
Always was, but with me also more now after a year.
For me it feels a bit soon for a failing battery. Normally in my experinence with Li-ion batteries, they work well for over 2 years.
Often I can relate the bad battery-life with extensive use (calling, internet), but sometimes it's almost empty overnight with 75% at the start of the night.
I suspect a non-linear decline of the presented battery-capacity is one of the causes: while decreasing it falls faster.
In my experience it stays quite a while above 80% and after the 20% warning I only have a few minutes calling-time left.
Hello fellow members.
My battery is almost 2y old. I think it's just gone bad already after this time.
5 days ago i changed my rom to newest ReVolt rom and kernel to newest Dorimanx.
Just before that (so i think it's not a case) i noticed significant baterry drain on screen on and off. Its about 1% every 3 min on screen on and about 20% slepp thru 8h in airplane mode (when i sleep)
But can i somehow chceck is my battery charging to the full capacity as new battery ?
If i'm not clear pls ask.
Without getting another battery to do a comparison or without dedicated battery testing gear, unlikely. However, I'd be getting a new one if one managed to last me two years without crapping itself well before that.
Edit - Having said, that, you can be fairly certain a two year old battery would either not be able to hold a charge/discharge as efficiently as a new(er) battery given batteries lose the ability to do these things the more you use them/the more you charge & discharge them
Buy a new one.
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Without getting another battery to do a comparison or without dedicated battery testing gear, unlikely. However, I'd be getting a new one if one managed to last me two years without crapping itself well before that.
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End of october im getting a S4 so wanted get thru somehow
But cant you check the real capacity with some app ? and whats the capacity of new original sammsung battery ?
Yep I hear you on the holding out for a new phone thing; I was going to wait until about then but my S2 started playing up hardware-wise & pretty much made the decision to go earlier for me.
From memory, a newish standard SGS2 battery holds around 4200mV full & about 3500mV close to empty (and I'm going way back in my memory here as I used a 2000mAh battery for all but the first two months), but that can be a little bit variable. I think given the age of the one you have, if it's significantly under that @ 100%, it's probably safe to say it's on its last legs (which is likely anyway purely because of how long you've had it).
The battery in my phone has started to die without warning between 5-40% charge. End of the line? Options? Thanks.
My ok, it still reach 2 days (or 1 day with full use) you can try to replace just the battery youll need heat gun, suction cup , and set of mini screws, you can find alot of tutorials on you tube,
if it worth for you (battery cost about 30$ i think)
after replace the battery youll lose the water resistant ,
2nd option you can carry power bank with you
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What water resistant? Mine after a brief exposure to rain had water in the headphone jack and for 2 days was vibrating like hell and messages with "headphone connected" / "headphone disconnected" .
The so called "water resistant" is a piece of crap and a big lie!
Also my battery is going to hell, but not like yours. It just go to 0% much faster than before. After two years of normal usage (with bootloader locked btw) i hardly get one day of battery. When it was new i was getting two days also.
I have had a long series of Sony Erricson phones, but the Z5c is the biggest failure until now. The previous phone (a Xperia SP) still works perfectly with battery still going for 3 or 4 days (normal usage and almost no gaming), and this after approximately 7 years of usage and hardcore gaming in the first 4 years of its life.
I was a big fan of Sony Ericsson phones (since the T28) and loved them since the P900, but now i`m seriously thinking to switch to Huawei phones. They are a lot better then Sony right now, in every way possible (yes, including cammera ).
I'm in the same situation: after 3,5 years the battery is slowly diying, sometimes the phone switches off at 10%.
When i use Maps, the battery goes down 1% for 1 minute. Apart from that, the phone still works fine and it's in good condition but Sony wants to charge me 75 euro for just replacing the battery! My 7 years old Galaxy S2 has had a much longer battery life compared to this Sony...
The problem is that i don't really trust third party batteries from ebay or chinese sites. Has anyone had a good long experience with batteries bought online?
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The problem is that i don't really trust third party batteries from ebay or chinese sites. Has anyone had a good long experience with batteries bought online?
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Same problem: my battery was dying, could barely get it to do one full day (basically, only by not using the phone).
Replaced it myself with a Chinese one from Amazon at about 18€: so far everything's good. Can't vouch for battery long-term duration, of course, but in 15 days it has shown no visible degradation - and I have longer SoT than I used to have when the Z5C was new (to be fair, now I'm on LOS with kernel undervoltage optimizations, and not on stock OS).
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My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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I recently bought a N6 in great condition because I was refunded my money for my Nexus 6P. The phone did need a battery replacement though. It throttled under 40% and had early shutdowns.
I changed the battery (Cameron Sino) and modded my frame and back while I was at it.
The phone does run smoother (although no matter what rom I try, it always slows down to an unusable pace after a week or two) and stopped throttling.
I however do not get anywhere close to the SOT some of you guys are getting.
The most I could get is probably 2h30m if I'm lucky. Mostly I get around 1h30m to 2h.
I really want to get this fixed because I plan to use my N6 until the new Pixels arrive (which is still a long time).
I do have my Moto 360 connected but this is not the problem. I ran a clean rom install without my watch connected and bluetooth disabled and did not get more battery life out of it.
Edit: I'm running Nitrogen OS at the moment.
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I recently bought a N6 in great condition because I was refunded my money for my Nexus 6P. The phone did need a battery replacement though. It throttled under 40% and had early shutdowns.
I changed the battery (Cameron Sino) and modded my frame and back while I was at it.
The phone does run smoother (although no matter what rom I try, it always slows down to an unusable pace after a week or two) and stopped throttling.
I however do not get anywhere close to the SOT some of you guys are getting.
The most I could get is probably 2h30m if I'm lucky. Mostly I get around 1h30m to 2h.
I really want to get this fixed because I plan to use my N6 until the new Pixels arrive (which is still a long time).
I do have my Moto 360 connected but this is not the problem. I ran a clean rom install without my watch connected and bluetooth disabled and did not get more battery life out of it.
Edit: I'm running Nitrogen OS at the moment.
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I'm deep in concern Moto implemented the N6 radio module or the radio flash or vendor or any other proprietary in the way to interfere with a proper day to day work.
Artificial aging promotes us to buy new devices every 2-3 years. But from the performance point, our 32bit N6 is still adequate.
Would be happy to get it to my kid instead of buying another device for him. He already killed my old Note 2 and close to do the same with J7.
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I'm deep in concern Moto implemented the N6 radio module or the radio flash or vendor or any other proprietary in the way to interfere with a proper day to day work.
Artificial aging promotes us to buy new devices every 2-3 years. But from the performance point, our 32bit N6 is still adequate.
Would be happy to get it to my kid instead of buying another device for him. He already killed my old Note 2 and close to do the same with J7.
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I had a similar problem on the Nexus 5 a while back. What I did was to put the phone in recovery and let it drain till the battery wore out then charge it back to full while still in recovery. It took a while but seemed to stop the battery from both shutting down early or reaching 0% prematurely. Sounds weird I'm sure but it had an affect. Nothing to lose to try it.
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My N6 is almost four years old. Running LineageOS 15.1 for now.
1. Screen-on time is awful. OK, if I have 120 minutes till it dead meat.
2. Less than 50% battery results in very likely self-switch off. Sometimes it can be rebooted, sometimes not. Power connection resolves the problem.
So I decided to change the battery. It took 2 hours. 20 minutes of the actual work and for about 100 minutes I looked for a proper T4-screwdriver I put somewhere.
New battery = same situation. Nothing changed. The battery I ordered from the USA and it wasn't cheapest on eBay. I ordered two batteries actually.
Resuming I see the problem, not in battery or not totally in the battery. Looks like the problem in the aging power distribution subsystem. Capacitors etc.
This phone may be cleverly designed to hold a very specific timespan. It's time to retire.
Thinking about OnePlus 6?
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I had a similar experience, changed out the battery in my device back in March. Performance is marginally better, but it still turns off at or around 15%. Nothing new out there to entice me yet, though Best Buy does have a great deal on the Pixel 2 XL with Verizon right now.
I was thinking about what it is about the Nexus 6 that has kept me with it for longer than any other phone. I decided that one of the many things I like is the 16:9 aspect ratio. The phone is thick, for sure, but 16:9 is just right. Not sure if I am ready for the 19:9 or 18.5:9 or whatever else is going on out there.
I just keep my phone plugged in at work, helps me get through the day both battery and performance wise.
are the ones getting shutdowns sub 40 on oero? i have that problem on every oero rom i try so i keep going back to nougat
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are the ones getting shutdowns sub 40 on oero? i have that problem on every oero rom i try so i keep going back to nougat
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i was having that problem on nougat around 40% ( pure nexus), used it for over 6 months, moved to oreo for couple of weeks. both aosip and lineage os. its worse. i am afraid to let it go bellow 70 because its my daily driver and i don't have a back up phone right now. i am not even rooted now because it adds to instability.
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Within a week of my last Post it was so bad that I had to have the phone plugged in all the time. If unplugged phone would turn off around 95%. If I pull down quick setting bar it would shut off immediately. So I get a battery and replaced the old one. Took me an hour and half to fully charge more than 2 days ago. I'm not really using it. Off and on I would turn it on to check emails, browse little bit, play some videos etc. I'm at 11 percent now. Battery saver turned on at 15%. More than 4.5 jour sot.
At 9 percent now, no shut down yet. Not even one. I'll plug it in now.
Another thing I recently discovered is that revootimg into safe mode and then rebooting back in to regular mode clears up some issues. Anyone having random shutdown issues might want to try this. It seems to have good results so far for me. Phone is now more fluid than it has been since I bought it.
It's time, darling...
Donated my N6 to my kid. Bought OnePlus 6 for myself and 5 for my fem. My old N6 reflashed stock and it looses battery pretty quickly. Will try to do all those recommendations from above...
have any of you tried rebooting to bootloader, selecting Bootloader Logs and holding the power button down till it reboots trick?
For my N6 i put 2 battery in parrallel, and i got more than 8hours screen on !
But no more back-plastic-plate..
At least, i can handle a big day
For charging i'm force to use only fast-charge charger, under 800ma it take 20hours for full charge ! (5h in 5v1500ma and 1hours at 9v2A )
Lineage 16 - Popcorn Kernel + undervolt cpu -30mv*
Problem solved, at least 1more year with this phone for only 15$
riwan15 said:
For my N6 i put 2 battery in parrallel, and i got more than 8hours screen on !
But no more back-plastic-plate..
At least, i can handle a big day
For charging i'm force to use only fast-charge charger, under 800ma it take 20hours for full charge ! (5h in 5v1500ma and 1hours at 9v2A )
Lineage 16 - Popcorn Kernel + undervolt cpu -30mv*
Problem solved, at least 1more year with this phone for only 15$
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can u share how do you do that, i plan to buy a new battery and if it is easy to mod i want to use both 2 batt like u
ponichia said:
can u share how do you do that, i plan to buy a new battery and if it is easy to mod i want to use both 2 batt like u
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Just buy 2 new battery, verify the voltage (they have to be the same before soldering) on one diconnect the BMS and use your soldering tool to put the two battery in parrallel
Keep using one BMS for connecting to the phone
You'll have to cut the plastic to fit the two battery, and you'll never be able to put the battery cache again of course, use some tape of your favorite color to protect the back ( if you don't put tape you will cut the BMS cable or damage the button connector )
That's all ?
Just want to share my experience...My nexus6 used as backup phone got same problem. I only use to stream live video and need to connect it to charger or powerbank to avoid random reboot. Then, last month I accidentally found e-commerce shop sell N6 battery around [email protected] and I tried my luck to change the battery... after changing to new battery and used almost 3weeks I found no more random reboot but battery life is not great in idle (using android9 custom rom) then I switch to android 8 custom rom..idle is improved but sot only can get 3hours only. Check with accubatery shows 3100mah...