I'm still on stock I'd like to flash one of 4.4.2 ROMs. However, most of them have line in instructions that latest CWM is required. Since CF-Auto-Root does not contain it, I was wondering if anything can go wrong if I use that root method? Should I proceed with any other root method instead?
krneki10 said:
I'm still on stock I'd like to flash one of 4.4.2 ROMs. However, most of them have line in instructions that latest CWM is required. Since CF-Auto-Root does not contain it, I was wondering if anything can go wrong if I use that root method? Should I proceed with any other root method instead?
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If your planning to flash a custom rom straight away you do not need to root (custom roms are already rooted) Flash cwm with odin and well you know the rest about what to do
tallman43 said:
If your planning to flash a custom rom straight away you do not need to root (custom roms are already rooted) Flash cwm with odin and well you know the rest about what to do
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Could you please give me a link for tutorial for flashing CWM with Odin?
krneki10 said:
Could you please give me a link for tutorial for flashing CWM with Odin?
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Hi,
You can use these steps to flash CWM or a recovery of your choice via Odin:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39433857&postcount=4
In addition, I personally prefer [i93xx][CWM Advanced Edition] PhilZ Touch.
Hope this helps.
oreo27 said:
Hi,
You can use these steps to flash CWM or a recovery of your choice via Odin:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39433857&postcount=4
In addition, I personally prefer [i93xx][CWM Advanced Edition] PhilZ Touch.
Hope this helps.
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When should I backup EFS? Just after I flash CWM, so before flashing another ROM?
krneki10 said:
When should I backup EFS? Just after I flash CWM, so before flashing another ROM?
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ASAP as far the threads here stipulate. I did 2 backups of my EFS the moment i got my SGS3. I was however, only able to accomplish this by first flashing a custom recovery. Once the custom recovery was installed, (I was and still am using Philz Touch) the first thing I did was backup my EFS folder.
krneki10 said:
When should I backup EFS? Just after I flash CWM, so before flashing another ROM?
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Yep like oreo27 said before flashing any custom roms backup your EFS preferably while you are still on your original rom that your phone came with and make a couple of backups and keep copies on computer.
You will also find that some roms have options to backup your EFS before flashing that particular rom you can never have too many backups ...
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When should I backup EFS? Just after I flash CWM, so before flashing another ROM?
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The ROM I installed (NeatROM S3) included the option to backup EFS during the Aroma install process, and it's ticked by default. I'm not sure if all ROMs are this good at reminding you
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hi,
after reading & talking to people regarding changing ROM most of the people recomended backing up the EFS partition (the IMEI)
i have read many tutorials some of them with weird hidden manus that dint match mine #*7284# and actually im getting kind of lost...
can anyone please help me find a guide with an updated on how backup my EFS/IMEI before im trying to mess with my phone?
thanks in advance,
ER
It's just a folder in the root of the device. You can copy it manually using any file manager with root access. Some recoveries such as philz, have an option to backup. There are efs backup apps on play.....
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rootSU said:
It's just a folder in the root of the device. You can copy it manually using any file manager with root access. Some recoveries such as philz, have an option to backup. There are efs backup apps on play.....
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so i have to root my samsung before rom massing to backup IMEI in the EFS?
Yes, but if you want to stay stock no need to back up efs there is slim to nothing chances you will lose imei
Hi, if you want backup /efs folder, don't do a copy folder with root explorer.
Use this app play.google com /store/apps/details?id=net.hellcat.droiddev.ktool
errdos said:
so i have to root my samsung before rom massing to backup IMEI in the EFS?
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Well if you want to flash custom ROMs you are going to need Root anyway except if you just want to update your current Samsung Firmware. In this case you can just flash via Odin of course without Rooting your device.
Maybe you can backup the EFS Folder via ADB but I never tried that so just pulling it from the system folder via a root explorer is easier, at least for me.
Scarface1991 said:
Well if you want to flash custom ROMs you are going to need Root anyway except if you just want to update your current Samsung Firmware. In this case you can just flash via Odin of course without Rooting your device.
Maybe you can backup the EFS Folder via ADB but I never tried that so just pulling it from the system folder via a root explorer is easier, at least for me.
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if i understood correctly you flash CWM trough odin and then you can just flash your new rom. am i worng?
and it seems that that guy above you mentioned that copying isn't enough...
so root --> back up all EFS folder (which contains IME) --> flash CWM trough odin --> use CWM to install new rom?
ER
errdos said:
if i understood correctly you flash CWM trough odin and then you can just flash your new rom. am i worng?
and it seems that that guy above you mentioned that copying isn't enough...
so root --> back up all EFS folder (which contains IME) --> flash CWM trough odin --> use CWM to install new rom?
ER
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The guy above said that a manual restoring of EFS isn't possible when the phone won't boot into the ROM, well that`s correct but the point of a EFS backup is to restore it when you have a working ROM but without a EFS Folder (happened for some reason more than once here at XDA).
Yes if you have Root, backup your EFS Folder, then you can flash a CWM Recovery through Odin and then after wiping data/cache you can flash a new custom ROM.
first of all thanks for all the help. now at least i can start
so ill just look for goot root tutorial
more of a opinion questions:
so you recommend on using Odin to get CWM? or RomManager ( i heard it can do it)
do you have any rom you can reommend on? or another restore program other then clockwork?
errdos said:
first of all thanks for all the help. now at least i can start
so ill just look for goot root tutorial
more of a opinion questions:
so you recommend on using Odin to get CWM? or RomManager ( i heard it can do it)
do you have any rom you can reommend on? or another restore program other then clockwork?
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Well it shouldn't really matter but one time I tried to flash CWM through ROM Manager and it failed for some reason leaving me with a bootloop. I don't now what went wrong there but since then I either use Odin to flash CWM or the last time I did it by flashing the Siyah Kernel. It gives you Root and you can flash the CWM Siyah Touch Recovery straight from the S-Tweaks App but it`s really your decision.
About the ROM, there are ROMs that are based on Samsung`s TouchWiz Firmware and ROMs that are based on AOSP / CyanogenMod. There is no such thing as a best ROM, so you are going to have to figure this out yourself since it depends on your personal taste. I use Temasek`s build of CyanogenMod with his Kernel and it gives me the right amount of customization and can be used as a daily driver.
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The guy above said that a manual restoring of EFS isn't possible when the phone won't boot into the ROM
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adb shell?
rootSU said:
adb shell?
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I don't have much ADB experience. So it is possible without actually booting into the ROM to push the EFS Folder into the /system folder?
yes
Scarface1991 said:
I don't have much ADB experience. So it is possible without actually booting into the ROM to push the EFS Folder into the /system folder?
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So long as your recovery supports it (custom recovery) then yep.
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Thealshear said:
Yes, but if you want to stay stock no need to back up efs there is slim to nothing chances you will lose imei
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Unless u want a $400 MP3 player make many and various types of backups.
For ten days i was without a cool phone cuz i rushed ahead and didnt read the guides in their entirety esp the parts on backup-i was so keen to flash a rom and i wrecked my phone and it wasnt easy also worth a read is the pages on how to decypher the code eg where that firmware is from and what modem or csc it has with it
Hello.
I'd like to give MIUI a try, but, of course, I'd also like to switch back to my stock ROM if things go wrong or if I don't like MIUI.
How can I backup my entire phone (rooting, Recovery Mode capability and other on-power key-combination-activated features etc etc) and 100% failsafe restore it at any time?
Thanks in advance.
Rooted stock = do a nandroid (CWM) backup which is essentially an 'image' of the phone at the time you make the backup. Try MIUI; don't like it ? Restore the nandroid you took of your rooted stock setup. Sorted (You will need to ensure you backup the contents of your external SD card separately if you have one).
Be careful you don't 'overthink' this, it's really very simple both ways (backup/restore).
My Recovery Mode doesn't have a backup option
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Rooted stock = do a nandroid (CWM) backup which is essentially an 'image' of the phone at the time you make the backup. Try MIUI; don't like it ? Restore the nandroid you took of your rooted stock setup. Sorted (You will need to ensure you backup the contents of your external SD card separately if you have one).
Be careful you don't 'overthink' this, it's really very simple both ways (backup/restore).
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Thanks for prompt response. I took a look at current Recovery Mode menu and it doesn't include a backup/restore option like in http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ClockworkMod_Recovery. It shows only the above:
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Android system recovery <3e>
Volume up/down to move highlight;
power button to select.
reboot system now
apply update from external storage
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
apply update from cache
test redbend fota[FS]
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# MANUAL MODE #
-- Appling Multi-CSC...
Applied the CSC-code : ZVV
Successfully applied multi-CSC.
I've already downloaded Recovery from clockworkmod.com but didn't do anything with it yet.
Sorry if it has already been detailed in another thread, but I didn't find it and I don't know how to make such nandroid backup.
Thanks.
OBackup
I've just downloaded OBackup app from Play store and am doing my backup.
My question is: after I flash MIUI, what are the tools/steps I'll need to restore my backup?
Thank you very much.
That's the stock Android recovery.
OK...
What you need to do is not install CWM separately. That will only persist until you reboot & is designed to allow you to flash whatever rom/kernel you want which will have it's own version of CWM baked into the kernel.
That backup program you're using; no idea as I've never used it.
What I recommend you do is find a custom kernel you like (actually, any custom kernel will do given you're going to flash Miui) which will have CWM. Flash that into your stock setup, then make a nandroid (CWM) backup of your stock setup so you can go back to it if you don't like Miui/whatever else you try (If you restored this & wanted to go back completely stock/unrooted/etc, all you'd need to do is flash a stock kernel). This is what you asked for in your OP. I warned you not to start overcomplicating things, and this is exactly what you're doing.
The kernel supplied with Miui should have CWM, so if you find you don't like it, you should be able to simply restore the backup you made of your stock setup in CWRecovery.
I also very strongly recommend you learn 'the basics' as you seem to be lacking in this knowledge. Flashing stuff/etc without knowing these things leads to busted phones. Read the tutorials/guides stickied near the top of the General section; there's a wealth of information in those.
Hi!
I've a similiar problem with my GT-i9100!
Can I do a restore of my stock ROM (that have android 4.1) if I've install a costum ROM like RootBox that have a different version of android (4.2.2)?
Can my phone brick because there are a differents kernel?
Tnx you all! ^^
Rox666 said:
Hi!
I've a similiar problem with my GT-i9100!
Can I do a restore of my stock ROM (that have android 4.1) if I've install a costum ROM like RootBox that have a different version of android (4.2.2)?
Can my phone brick because there are a differents kernel?
Tnx you all! ^^
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No it won't brick.
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No it won't brick.
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Hi and tnx for reply!
I've try to do a restore of my sock rom from recovery but it's says to me that there is an error on md5 check sum...
I've install the RootBox ROM in my gt-i9100...but I can't come back to sock from recovery because the stock kernel dosen't work with RootBox's Kernel...
so I've to use odin to flash the stock firmware.......at the origin, my idea didn't comprised use odin because of download mode counter (so that why I did a backup!)...but now I don't have any other way...!
...what a sad story.. XD
Rox666 said:
Hi and tnx for reply!
I've try to do a restore of my sock rom from recovery but it's says to me that there is an error on md5 check sum...
I've install the RootBox ROM in my gt-i9100...but I can't come back to sock from recovery because the stock kernel dosen't work with RootBox's Kernel...
so I've to use odin to flash the stock firmware.......at the origin, my idea didn't comprised use odin because of download mode counter (so that why I did a backup!)...but now I don't have any other way...!
...what a sad story.. XD
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You can't restore your backup because of a different MD5 SUM which means that your backup has been corrupted.
Flashing a stock ROM or Kernel via ODIN will not increase your flash counter.
Flash NeatROM Lite, this is the best ROM ever, it like stock with additional things.
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sadekmefti said:
You can't restore your backmyf a different MD5 SUM which means that your backup has been corrupted.
Flashing a stock ROM or Kernel via ODIN will not increase your flash counter.
Flash NeatROM Lite, this is the best ROM ever, it like stock with additional things.
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DIO *******************
I will cry...... :'( so the recovery hadn't save well my backup..I read about similar error and I hoped that was thet...
My last chance is use Odin..
Only a question: can I flash the stock rom from recovery renaming the file .tar.md5 in .zip?
Tnx for you for the counsel! I will try thet rom after solving this problem! For now I have changed rom and I'm using MIUI and it works really well!!
Rox666 said:
DIO *******************
I will cry...... :'( so the recovery hadn't save well my backup..I read about similar error and I hoped that was thet...
My last chance is use Odin..
Only a question: can I flash the stock rom from recovery renaming the file .tar.md5 in .zip?
Tnx for you for the counsel! I will try thet rom after solving this problem! For now I have changed rom and I'm using MIUI and it works really well!!
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You can't flash a stock ROM from recovery by changing .tar.md5 to .zip .
You want to change ROM to Stock, use Mobile Odin to flash a Stock ROM or Flash NeatROM v4.8 Lite.
sadekmefti said:
You can't flash a stock ROM from recovery by changing .tar.md5 to .zip .
You want to change ROM to Stock, use Mobile Odin to flash a Stock ROM or Flash NeatROM v4.8 Lite.
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Tnx you! I understand what I have to do! I'll try your rom today
Tnx again!!!
Is there any CWM.zip for the galaxy s3 ??
I want to keep my stock recovery and use CWM abilities like backup
Can any one find a similar thing ??:fingers-crossed:
I mean that I want it to be like my galaxy mini GT-S5570I
I had a CWM recovery . zip
If I want to use it I go to my stock recovery and select " install update from sdcard" and choose the CWM recovery . That make me boot into CWM recovery mod
yousefageaz said:
I mean that I want it to be like my galaxy mini GT-S5570I
I had a CWM recovery . zip
If I want to use it I go to my stock recovery and select " install update from sdcard" and choose the CWM recovery . That make me boot into CWM recovery mod
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Stock recovery DOES NOT include flashing through zips so even if you in fact can flash stock recovery through CWM you CAN NOT flash CWM through stock one.
And to be honest I can't see any reason why you'd like to do so.
yousefageaz said:
Is there any CWM.zip for the galaxy s3 ??
I want to keep my stock recovery and use CWM abilities like backup
Can any one find a similar thing ??:fingers-crossed:
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i don't think that is possible! how could you enter a custom recovery through a stock ones?!
Its called fake flash and was invented by koushik Dutta and Paul O'Brien. I used it on my HTC desire for a while. You essentially flashed it into memory and was gone on a reboot. This method is pretty old hat now. Im not convinced anyone uses this anymore. It's certainly not available on the S3.
Actually earlier rooting methods of desire gave you a leaked engineering version of the recovery that had no signature verification. That's the only reason it was possible
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you could try something similiar, for example mobile odin, there you can flash update.zips and keep your stock recovery. (but it has no other cwm abilities)
or you use syah or googy-max kernel, where you can boot from stweaks into 2nd rom utilities which is a full working cwm and disappeares after reboot. there you can keep as well your stock recovery (but you have to flash a custom kernel )
Can mskip's toolbox do backups?
rootSU said:
Can mskip's toolbox do backups?
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Yes, full nandroid including efs, but needs a rooted phone -and it can provide root.
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Yes, full nandroid including efs, but needs a rooted phone -and it can provide root.
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Thanks. I guess that is the OP's solution then!
maybe anpother suggestion, which i often use could be the app online nandroid backup (its on the market), which can perform nandroid backups whithout going into recovery.
So there is no need of a custom recovery as long as you do not want to restore your backup.
and in combination with mobile odin you can flash update.zips. so the basic cwm abilities are covered (as long you have root)
I am aware that this has been asked before but there are conflicting answers withing the threads that I have read.
I am running 4.1.2 WLSW having worked my way through the various jb releases over time. Root has been retained using everroot in mobile odin. The kernel is stock.
Having decided to install a stable release of cyanogenmod (10.1.3) I have been reading around for days to avoid pitfalls or to know what to do should a problem arise.
The only one thing that I am still unsure about is whether it is indeed safe to use a temporary cwm (flashed via stock recovery) to install cyanogenmod. I have downloaded the latest temporary cwn from the rommanager site and it appears to work just fine - I have created a backup without issues so I can get back to where I am now if I don't like or have problems with cyanogenmod.
I was planning to flash [KERNEL] ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.9 from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118693 - but in the last couple of pages in the thread there are users that have had boot failures after flashing it. This is what has lead me to ask the question is it safe to use the temporary cwm?
I am aware that there are other kernels that I could use (Philz/Siyah) but would like to know which cwm is safest/best for the installation of cyanogenmod.
Install philz kernel by flashing in stock recovery and put that zip on ext sd. Stay away from rom manager. Dont use it. When you have philz installed make a nandroid bkup and make sure preload is included too. Also bk up you're efs folder with ktool free from playstore. As you have root get that and bk efs up asap. once you have done a nandroid bkup and done the efs bkup then flash cm. May be good to get a copy of you're modem now too.
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Install philz kernel by flashing in stock recovery and put that zip on ext sd. Stay away from rom manager. Dont use it. When you have philz installed make a nandroid bkup and make sure preload is included too. Also bk up you're efs folder with ktool free from playstore. As you have root get that and bk efs up asap. once you have done a nandroid bkup and done the efs bkup then flash cm. May be good to get a copy of you're modem now too.
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I have backed up efs already using ktool and have already made a nandroid backup using temporary cwm - good advice none the less.
I have read that rommanager is problematic with the i9100 so am not planning to use it.
My method of choice to flash Philz would be mobile odin (unless there is some disadvantage by doing it this way?).
Regarding my modem, it is included in the stock firmware so I could flash just the modem from this using mobile odin if I have trouble (I have assumed mobile odin works in cm).
My original question remains however - why not use temporary cwm?
Mobile odin will work on cm. And yes you can flash with temp cwm. Get you're modem from here on xda. Makes no odds how you flash philz Use odin or recovery its up to you.
andrewwright said:
Mobile odin will work on cm. And yes you can flash with temp cwm. Get you're modem from here on xda. Makes no odds how you flash philz Use odin or recovery its up to you.
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If I can flash with temp cwm, there is no need to flash philz at all - or have I missed something?
If you flash with temp there's no guarantee. Philz then flash is a safer way of doing things.
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If you flash with temp there's no guarantee. Philz then flash is a safer way of doing things.
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Presumably the latest Siyah kernel will also do?
Yes that's ok
It's simply a matter of preference.....temporary CWM is as it 'says on the tin'........temporary....
You have to reflash it every time you want to use it.
PhilZ is permanent....once it's flashed, it's there, no further action needed, plus it has a touch interface unlike regular CWM......
If you intend to stay with stock, but want to have the advantages of CWM, then I'd advise go with PhilZ...purely because a few steps less are necessary to be able to use it.......
(Enter stock recovery, flash CWM then use CWM to flash whatever..... every time with temporary CWM)
If you intend to flash a custom ROM, it'll come with its own permanent CWM anyway (which will overwrite the PhilZ kernel and/or remove the need to continuously reflash the temporary CWM)
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Thanks for the advice folks. I flashed Siyah then installed cm 10.1.3 and the associated gapps. All went without a hitch. I was actually surprised how quickly the process completed. I had the rotating cm boot image less than 2 minutes after starting the install from first zip.
Off topic, but I am totally impressed with the cm ROM. I find my frustration at constantly waiting for phone manufacturers to catch up with vanilla android releases has completely melted away.
Glad it's sorted :thumbup:
Add solved to name of thread pls
Mine is an i9300 rooted and running 4.1.2
I have downloaded the carbon rom 4.4,2 meant for i9300 and also the gapps to the phone' sd card,
Can I upgrade the phone via mobile Odin pro only? I don't have access to a PC or a mac.
Or is it better to go via CMWM?
Don't want to mess up my only phone
You can flash Philz through Mobile Odin and then flash the ROM through Philz.
Mobile Odin wants to wipe data and cache
xpmode said:
You can flash Philz through Mobile Odin and then flash the ROM through Philz.
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Mobile Odin wants to wipe data and cache, plus wipe dalvik cache to install philz touch recovery.
Is that ok to do so? I made nandroid backup thru cwm recovery.
No need to flash through mobile odin...
There are flashable zips available for Phil's... you can just flash those through your current recovery..
And I would suggest change your modem to any modem after mg4...
Installing an aosp ROM would not affect anything related to modem but if you do flash any Samsung rom then that would be necessary...
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Was able to update to philz recovery and did a new nandroid backup
kunal1540 said:
No need to flash through mobile odin...
There are flashable zips available for Phil's... you can just flash those through your current recovery..
And I would suggest change your modem to any modem after mg4...
Installing an aosp ROM would not affect anything related to modem but if you do flash any Samsung rom then that would be necessary...
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Thanks for the suggestion. Flashed philz through CWM recovery.
Now should I use Mobile Odin pro to install 4.2.2 carbon or just through philz itself?
Seems Odin pro gives me ability to inject super user on install. Philz doesn't give me any such option.
What would you recommend?
freedomIndia said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Flashed philz through CWM recovery.
Now should I use Mobile Odin pro to install 4.2.2 carbon or just through philz itself?
Seems Odin pro gives me ability to inject super user on install. Philz doesn't give me any such option.
What would you recommend?
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Actually I think Philz does allow you to flash root .I remember seeing the option in advanced or philz settings I think. You can then go on to download SuperSU from market and it will work fine
Don't have a PC or mac
whatsgood said:
Actually I think Philz does allow you to flash root .I remember seeing the option in advanced or philz settings I think. You can then go on to download SuperSU from market and it will work fine
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Is the carbon rom pre rooted? Else I would have to depend on Odin to prerogative it for me.
freedomIndia said:
Is the carbon rom pre rooted? Else I would have to depend on Odin to prerogative it for me.
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99% of custom roms are rooted you only have to root your device if you are on stock rom and not planning on flashing custom roms but want to install root apps
Thank you all
tallman43 said:
99% of custom roms are rooted you only have to root your device if you are on stock rom and not planning on flashing custom roms but want to install root apps
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Thank you for clarifying that. Will update tomorrow on how the upgrade went. Appreciate your help.