I'd like to hear the real experience.
When I look at the spec, I found C6833 has both AWS HSPA and LTE, but I am kinda skeptical. Since it costs no more than $500, I may use it as main phone and replace Note 3.
mingkee said:
I'd like to hear the real experience.
When I look at the spec, I found C6833 has both AWS HSPA and LTE, but I am kinda skeptical. Since it costs no more than $500, I may use it as main phone and replace Note 3.
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I live near Chicago, and its working great for me. Though I did recieve it a day ago. No interruption in service so far.
But Idk if its because of the KitKat update or not, but I had to manually set the Apn for the data to work.
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I live in the Chicagoland area as well (just South of Joliet) and I get unlimited 30mbps LTE. I know T-Mobile's still in the process of upgrading its network, but as far as my area goes, I have no problems with signal. I'll be putting my phone to the ultimate test next week when I drive to Houston for the third year in a row (Missouri and Arkansas were TERRIBLE to drive through the last two years as far as reception goes). I don't know how long you plan on having yours if you get one, but since T-Mobile announced that they're acquiring some 700mhz spectrum in the future, I'd get the C6806 if I was just now going to get one, since the C6833 doesn't have a 700mhz radio.
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I live in the Chicagoland area as well (just South of Joliet) and I get unlimited 30mbps LTE. I know T-Mobile's still in the process of upgrading its network, but as far as my area goes, I have no problems with signal. I'll be putting my phone to the ultimate test next week when I drive to Houston for the third year in a row (Missouri and Arkansas were TERRIBLE to drive through the last two years as far as reception goes). I don't know how long you plan on having yours if you get one, but since T-Mobile announced that they're acquiring some 700mhz spectrum in the future, I'd get the C6806 if I was just now going to get one, since the C6833 doesn't have a 700mhz radio.
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Keep in mind T-Mobile has band 12 (700a) not band 17.
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Keep in mind T-Mobile has band 12 (700a) not band 17.
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Correct. See my annotated chart.
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Keep in mind T-Mobile has band 12 (700a) not band 17.
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I was not aware that lower 700mhz used a different band than upper 700. That kinda sucks :/
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Am I the only one who is mad that no one is following apple on the one thing they did perfectly? Apple has almost every LTE band you could need in one device. I travel for work a lot, I have to go to Japan and middle East. The bands in the American nexus devices lacks every band used in Japan on DoCoMo (1,19,21) except the 5X has band 1.
Right now I'm debating nexus 6P (can't do a 32GB device do no 5X) or the iPhone 6S plus. I'd grab the nexus in a heart beat if it had the bands I need. Ugh I hate these decisions lol.
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The rest of world version has every band you need. Comparison here, row on left, USA on right
http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2015/09/Nexus-6P-network-JP-vs-US.jpg
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The rest of world version has every band you need. Comparison here, row on left, USA on right
http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2015/09/Nexus-6P-network-JP-vs-US.jpg
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Aye I know it has the Japanese bands, and all of AT&T's current bands, missing is the T-Mobile band 12 and AT&T band 30. I'll probably get the international version, assuming I can order it (may have to order from Google Japan) I just want as many bands as possible for the ability to easily change carriers.
Maybe someone will do what was done for the Moto N6, combine most of the bands into one QCN file.
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Is this due to licensing, physical, or software limitations (binaries not supporting certain bands)?
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Is this due to licensing, physical, or software limitations (binaries not supporting certain bands)?
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Licensing or physical (no one would be able to tell until they have the devices). You have to pay per band for licensing, and some bands need certain filters and amplifiers that are external to the modem chip. Those obviously cost money so sometimes aren't included (though sometimes are just not activated in software since they could save money by not having to retool the production lines to make different models)
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Aye I know it has the Japanese bands, and all of AT&T's current bands, missing is the T-Mobile band 12 and AT&T band 30. I'll probably get the international version, assuming I can order it (may have to order from Google Japan) I just want as many bands as possible for the ability to easily change carriers.
Maybe someone will do what was done for the Moto N6, combine most of the bands into one QCN file.
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Well we know band 12 is just locked right now for Tmo, but should be available by launch.
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This is admittedly where the iPhone just crushes any android device honestly. My ex went to Canada and had excellent service. She then went to Italy and the UK and never had to swap sim cards (some kind of T-Mobile service) and had 4G everywhere. Obviously she wasn't thinking of LTE bands, but I was impressed when she told me about it. But I now have to worry about phones that support bands in the UK and U.S.
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Well we know band 12 is just locked right now for Tmo, but should be available by launch.
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Not for the international version though, only the American version will have band 12 and 13
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This is admittedly where the iPhone just crushes any android device honestly. My ex went to Canada and had excellent service. She then went to Italy and the UK and never had to swap sim cards (some kind of T-Mobile service) and had 4G everywhere. Obviously she wasn't thinking of LTE bands, but I was impressed when she told me about it. But I now have to worry about phones that support bands in the UK and U.S.
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Aye, though T-Mobile will show LTE (since that's what it connects to) its still throttled though which is why I get local SIMs overseas.
I'm honestly thinking of buying a 6S plus for myself for Christmas. Great LTE coverage and maybe I'll save money buy not buying a new phone every few months, since there's only one new iPhone a year (not counting the 2 sizes) lol.
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Dennis, I currently live in Japan, and use DoCoMo. According to the DoCoMo rep I spoke to on the phone, DoCoMo uses bands 1, 3, 19, 21, 28.
Are you saying the American version won't work at all? The difference in price between the American and Japanese versions of the nexus 6P is laughable. ¥74,000 to ¥59,000 yen respectively.
I'm in Japan right now too. The only band the US one has is band 3. I don't know where or how saturated band 3 is, or if it would work well. I'm debating very much right now. Buy nexus 6P for $800 and get the 128GB and stay with Android, hoping it works for the next few months here. Or buy the iPhone 6S plus and get less storage for more money and have to switch to iOS.
Edit: meant $700 for the 128GB N6P (approximately after tax), the 64GB iPhone 6S plus is $849 before tax. Ugh.
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This is admittedly where the iPhone just crushes any android device honestly. My ex went to Canada and had excellent service. She then went to Italy and the UK and never had to swap sim cards (some kind of T-Mobile service) and had 4G everywhere. Obviously she wasn't thinking of LTE bands, but I was impressed when she told me about it. But I now have to worry about phones that support bands in the UK and U.S.
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I've brought my N4 and N5 overseas and had zero issue on tmo just continuing to use my phone over the last 3 years.
does anyone know if this will work on the verizon XLTE frequencies? I can't tell by the displayed specs.
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Never mind. I found it.
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does anyone know if this will work on the verizon XLTE frequencies? I can't tell by the displayed specs.
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Never mind. I found it.
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in case anybody else was wondering....
Band 4: 1700MHz F (XLTE)
I have a question. Are you guys getting LTE signal on N6P? When AT&T activated my new sim for N6P, I'm getting an H signal. I asked the guy at AT&T said it's HSPA+. Weird, because when I was on my N5, I was getting "LTE" from AT&T.
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I have a question. Are you guys getting LTE signal on N6P? When AT&T activated my new sim for N6P, I'm getting an H signal. I asked the guy at AT&T said it's HSPA+. Weird, because when I was on my N5, I was getting "LTE" from AT&T.
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Change your APN to ATT phone, works on my wife's phone. You should be getting LTE for sure.
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in case anybody else was wondering....
Band 4: 1700MHz F (XLTE)
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I get Band 4 at my office and XLTE speeds.
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Change your APN to ATT phone, works on my wife's phone. You should be getting LTE for sure.
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Thanks man, I did your suggestion but, no bueno. I think the dude at ATT didn't set up my phone correctly.
It is definitely a downer because my iPhone will be nice to have during international travel but that's only 3x a year so I'll live.
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It is definitely a downer because my iPhone will be nice to have during international travel but that's only 3x a year so I'll live.
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Where do you travel to? The 6P will work in most countries around the world. It has Band 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/30.
Most of Europe will be fine. Most of Oceania is fine. Most of Asia excluding China and Japan. All of North and South America works.
It seems the Z5c lacks 1700MHz band 4, which should mean Telus and Bell (same for T-Mobile?) are **** out of luck for LTE. Can anyone with the device or more knowledge confirm?
That's strange that they dropped it, though according to this, it shouldn't be a big deal either:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
Just got my Z5c, and did a Speedtest.net
The results are 28Mbps/11Mbps, which is as good as I got using LTE on my Nexus 5, though my antenna bar reads "4g" not "LTE".
So I don't know what to tell you!
No, no AWS, but speed as good as AWS anyway.
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Just got my Z5c, and did a Speedtest.net
The results are 28Mbps/11Mbps, which is as good as I got using LTE on my Nexus 5, though my antenna bar reads "4g" not "LTE".
So I don't know what to tell you!
No, no AWS, but speed as good as AWS anyway.
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4G is LTE.
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4G is LTE.
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Indeed, however all promo screenshots of the Z5 show "LTE".
Here's an /r/android post I just did with some more info:
Disclaimer: I'm not educated in the technical aspects of mobile radios, and the following info rests on the shoulders of forum reading and a small amount of real world testing.
This should be the same across all Z5 phones - Compact, Regular, and Premium.
Telus, Bell, and to some degree T-Mobile and AT&T use band 4 LTE. Telus/Bell specifically use 1700/2100 AWS for LTE. I got my E5823 this afternoon (black Z5 Compact), and I've been fawning over it all evening. Here's what I've found on my Telus network:
I'm reliably getting ~30Mbps down, and ~12Mbps up.
My Z3c reliably gets ~30Mbps down, and ~28Mbps up.
Which makes sense, as I'd seen a couple forum posts saying that 2100MHz is for AWS down, and 1700 is for AWS up, and the Z3c supports both while the Z5c only supports 2100MHz.
For me, this is good news, as I was afraid I'd be on 3g all the time, and not having full upload speeds don't bother me, as 99% of my uploading is on wifi.
In other news, this phone is AMAZING. Happy to answer any other questions re: data or the new phone.
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Thank you for the info. I recently discovered another variant "e5803" instead of the model mentioned here and elsewhere e5283. It seems to list the same radio frequencies but could this just be a naming variation or will this be the US model similar to z3c d5803?
Lastly, if we are purchasing a supposed "international" model, will Sony USA provide us warranty or would be from the seller?
Really interested in your input before I fork over $$$ on this cool phone.
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4G is LTE.
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Not in every country. Please refer to this:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/10/07/usa-buyers-guide-sony-xperia-z5/
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I will order the z5c soon and have accounts with both Tmobile and AT&T. Should I hook it up on AT&T because of missing Tmobile bands? Are there any missing at&t bands? Buying the UK version from either Handtec or Clove. Please advise if anyone knows. Thanks
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The E5823 model supports all of T-Mobile USA's LTE bands 2, 4, and 12. Band 12 (Extended Range 700Mhz) is questionable though. That particular band doesn't seem to be fully supported yet as Sony would need to get the phone validated on T-Mobile's network. Given that there's no USA model, it's unclear if this will ever happen.
That said, using the LTE Discovery app, I have seen my Z5c jump onto Band 12 if low coverage areas. When I had 4G enabled, band 12 didn't seem to work. When I was in HSPA+ mode, band 12 seemed to work.
Thanks
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Double check the hspa bands. I feel like it might be missing one.
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phositadc said:
Double check the hspa bands. I feel like it might be missing one.
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I do have the option to use at$t but would rather Tmobile. Maybe I'm safer on att
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The E5823 model supports all of T-Mobile USA's LTE bands 2, 4, and 12. Band 12 (Extended Range 700Mhz) is questionable though. That particular band doesn't seem to be fully supported yet as Sony would need to get the phone validated on T-Mobile's network. Given that there's no USA model, it's unclear if this will ever happen.
That said, using the LTE Discovery app, I have seen my Z5c jump onto Band 12 if low coverage areas. When I had 4G enabled, band 12 didn't seem to work. When I was in HSPA+ mode, band 12 seemed to work.
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That's no good. I was thinking of getting this to test band 12 on tmobile. I currently use att, verizon, and testing tmobile. I already have z3c on att and thought I'd try the z5c for band 12 and put on att when/if i drop tmobile.
That really only leaves m9 or iPhone 6s for my options as i don't really want a gs6
Edit: I also noticed that it does not support bands 29/30. I believe att will soon be using b30. Probably not a big deal for a while.
This phone also does not appear to support WiFi calling for tmobile USA if that's important to you.
So the E5823 model supports all tmobile LTE bands besides 12 right? just double checking, I don't mind band 12 since it's not in my area yet
Not sure where the lack of band 12 misinformation is coming from but I am in a Band 12 area right now and my z5c works great with it - confirmed on LTE discovery Android app.
Band 12 works fine. Sadly the 3 most important innovations, wifi calling, VoLTE and HD voice, do not and it is not likely they ever will
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Band 12 works fine. Sadly the 3 most important innovations, wifi calling, VoLTE and HD voice, do not and it is not likely they ever will
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This is what makes me sad. VoLTE support for areas where T-Mobile has only B12 would be great for when I travel into those areas, like northern Michigan (Chicago area native here). The Z5C would be great for most places I go, but I know I wouldn't get VoLTE calling in some areas.
jm8j: Have you noticed that B12 data works fine though?
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This is what makes me sad. VoLTE support for areas where T-Mobile has only B12 would be great for when I travel into those areas, like northern Michigan (Chicago area native here). The Z5C would be great for most places I go, but I know I wouldn't get VoLTE calling in some areas.
jm8j: Have you noticed that B12 data works fine though?
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LTE Discovery shows I'm connected to Band 12 in some low signal areas. When that is occurring, I'm still online.
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LTE Discovery shows I'm connected to Band 12 in some low signal areas. When that is occurring, I'm still online.
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What market are you in? I'm most concerned/interested in what the Z5 and Z5C does if you're in a B12 only coverage for T-Mobile and you try to make a call. Does the phone roam then to another carrier or just not make a call?
Hmmm not sure. I'm in South FLA. I just see that I'm on Band 12 regularly
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I was at walt disney world two weeks ago and picked up band 12 at the art of animation resort lobby and speedtest was logging 65 mbps. Unfortunately that was the only place I was grabbing band 12. No service in any of our rooms and the park in general sucks if you are a tmobile or sprint customer. One or two bars of band 4 lte outdoors if I was lucky. But for whatever reason the hotel lobby had great band 12 reception. I have been generally displeased with tmobile coverage. Their marketing ads do not match up to my lackluster experience both with this phone or my (supported) Nexus 6. Ive been thinking of switching to ATT. Everywhere we go my wifes ATT iphone has LTE coverage while im lucky to make calls. Lol
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I was at walt disney world two weeks ago and picked up band 12 at the art of animation resort lobby and speedtest was logging 65 mbps. Unfortunately that was the only place I was grabbing band 12. No service in any of our rooms and the park in general sucks if you are a tmobile or sprint customer. One or two bars of band 4 lte outdoors if I was lucky. But for whatever reason the hotel lobby had great band 12 reception. I have been generally displeased with tmobile coverage. Their marketing ads do not match up to my lackluster experience both with this phone or my (supported) Nexus 6. Ive been thinking of switching to ATT. Everywhere we go my wifes ATT iphone has LTE coverage while im lucky to make calls. Lol
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I had the exact same experience this summer - got so jealous of my wife having signal that I joined AT&T. I was happy for about 3 months, getting signal everywhere before I realized that the data speeds are pretty mediocre. Plus, their prices for capped data are ridiculous! It cost me an additional $45 when I went over my cap by 3 gigs. I'm tempted to switch back now, but T-mobile jacked up their pricing for unlimited data since I left. 2 lines with Unlimited Data used to be $100. Now it's $140. Not sure if I can justify that price increase, though it's still a better deal than AT&T's limited data plans. I live in a major city, so AT&T and T-Mobile both have excellent coverage here. I spend 98% of my time here, so I should be satisfied if I can't get a signal the other 2% of the time, right?
/rant
Anyone get band 12, volte and hd voice working on T-Mobile USA?
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Not me. But they havent gone live with band 12 in my area yet either according to tech support. Band 4 sucks in my area, same with my Nexus 6 which does support volte. On the z5 right now I stick it to hspa+ which works fine and has less battery drain when Im at home since I mostly use Wifi anyway. Whether or not the z5 supports volte on tmo usa I dont know. Ive seen comments about sony having to certify that with tmo. I just want better band 12 data penetration at this point. Tmo even sent me their cell repeater boxes which didnt help at all since they prefer band 4.
I posted this question on Reddit, and people confirmed that B12 is data only. No VoLTE and I think HD calling works still.
So band 12 has been officially launched in most of my areas. Will AT&T be a better option for full service? Or will 700mhz on band 17att also be a problem?
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How do you tell, I have T-Mobile. And get data, but came from Sprint, so little rusty on all GSM stuff.
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How do you tell, I have T-Mobile. And get data, but came from Sprint, so little rusty on all GSM stuff.
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How do you tell what band you're on? There's a free app you can download called LTE Discovery which should show you which one you're on.
I wish b12 was fully operational on this phone so i can test it out. from what I'm finding, it will not until sony gets it validated with tmobile.
There are very limited phones that currently support b12 for tmobile. Especially phones of interest to me. Hopefully this will change fairly soon
Here in Portland, OR, I've only seen band 4 LTE on my z5c so far. I know band 12 has been deployed here some time ago, so it appears I'm not able to pick it up.
I finally saw my phone pick up band 12 in an area that normally is so bad that only edge would work intermittently in prior years. But it was still a weak band 12 signal. The tower was 4 miles away. Download speeds were comparable to a T1 circuit. Blah! At home it never picks up band 12 and weak enough band 4 to where I leave it on hspa and wifi all day. I live in the Dallas area but tech support said the tower closest to my home is listed in chronic issues state whatever that means. The aws frequencies at my house has been horrible for years but this phone gets great hspa+ ever since they re farmed the area and the z5c only supports the pcs band for 3g. TMO coverage in my area is hit or miss. I don't care what their tv ads say. I have two other devices that get similar results, one being the moto nexus 6.
Do you have a screenshot of LTE discovery? I doubt it was 12.
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No screenshots for me but I was at the same location in the D/FW area for four hours and LTE discovery said band 12 the whole time. Also I know certain areas of downtown Dallas like at the American Airlines Center are band 12.
That doesn't mean it DOESN'T have band 4 though. Would be great if you could try and capture shots of that please.
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Also is volte working on band 12 or 4?
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Anyone else here?
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I can 100% confirm there is no HD Voice or VoLTE and I'm on 32.0.A.6.200. Pretty big bummer if you ask me. Not sure on Band 12 yet as it is not where I am now but highly doubt it works.
So which model should I buy if I have t-mobile?
MMS
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No screenshots for me but I was at the same location in the D/FW area for four hours and LTE discovery said band 12 the whole time. Also I know certain areas of downtown Dallas like at the American Airlines Center are band 12.
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Are you on tmobile? I'm in the same area on the Z5c and can't get my mms to work. What's your apn look like?
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Are you on tmobile? I'm in the same area on the Z5c and can't get my mms to work. What's your apn look like?
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Yes I am a tmobile customer and I just set the device to download the apn from the settings. I did change the protocol to ipv4 only though. Ipv4/ipv6 also worked but I vaguely remember the default being ipv6 only. Mms has always worked fine for me. I use the google messenger app, not the default sony.
My main concern is the lack of data frequencies for u.s. i will be using the phone for t-mobile. Anybody here that uses this phone for t-mobile how is data connection holding up for you?
wasn't that only about the LTE bands? 3G should work fine then I guess?
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My main concern is the lack of data frequencies for u.s. i will be using the phone for t-mobile. Anybody here that uses this phone for t-mobile how is data connection holding up for you?
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I'm in California and so far lte is fine for me, it's similar to the g3 when it comes to getting lte or not so far I get it everywhere
There's a thread on the oneplus forum that goes through this. Seems all major metro areas get LTE. Which, I'm fine with too. Mine is on order so cannot verify. We shall see.
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You will still get LTE speeds as long as you are in an area where bands 2 and 4 are available. My previous phone didn't have band 12, but I still have LTE coverage in my area, so I knew I would be okay with the OPX.
Band 12 is new. Most phones that came out last year didn't even have it. I think just the newest set of flagships did. I get LTE everywhere. I've only seen H+ maybe a hand full of times while on a phone call or in a building.
I get 100mbps in a lot of places. Even indoors.
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The iPhone 6, at $749.00 retail, does not include band 12.
I've been reading these reviews and the things that get mentioned is just beyond me. The camera does have me concerned though.
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I also have oneplus x with tmobile, and so far it seems like i get lte almost everywhere here in jacksonville fl. Also when i traveled across states over the christmas break. so you should be fine with getting lte coverage on tmoble.
I use the OnePlus X with Ting (T-Mobile)
Hi, I bought the OnePlus X without realizing that it wouldn't work on what was then my current network: Sprint. But I had already decided that I wanted to switch over to Ting. Ting uses other networks to power their service and charges you directly per use; it is very clear on exactly what you are paying for.
Anyway, it allowed me to connect my OnePlus X and set me up with the T-Mobile service (it shows up on the top-left notification bar on my phone).
I always get LTE coverage in Las Vegas, Nevada (USA) and I've never had a problem with the bands missing.
So yes, the OnePlus X works with T-Mobile. However, I have been trying to see how much they would charge me to switch over from Ting to T-Mobile and it seems that I can't? So for now, I'm sticking with Ting
I had a nexus 5 before (no band 12) and the oneplus X had the same bands avail actually it sounds like most unlocked phones don't have band 12 anyways but signal is actually better with my oneplus x over my old nexus 5 in a lot of places which makes me really happy!