So I've heard that some people have permanently bricked their phones by rooting them and making mistakes and I just don't understand this. I have rooted mine and it isn't bricked or anything but how is this possible?
Coming from Windows/PC Windows programming and maintenance I've fixed computer that had absolute corrupted hardware from malware or user error. No matter how bad the SOFTWARE is corrupted the computer itself is left undamaged in terms of hardware.
I'm not saying that certain forms of malware can't affect hardware under bizarre circumstances but generally this seems to be an old wives tail. If you rewrite the Master Boot Record on Windows Re flash Firmware and completely format and reinstall Windows it WILL fix even the most complex malware ROOTKITS like tdl4 which installs itself to the MBR (Master Boot Record.)
Why can't you do the same thing on an Android phone? Lets pretend the system gets extremely corrupted from being root what keeps me from removing everything and completely re-installing android? I don't get how you can permanently brick your phone from a software issue alone no matter how corrupted the phone is?
ableright said:
So I've heard that some people have permanently bricked their phones by rooting them and making mistakes and I just don't understand this. I have rooted mine and it isn't bricked or anything but how is this possible?
Coming from Windows/PC Windows programming and maintenance I've fixed computer that had absolute corrupted hardware from malware or user error. No matter how bad the SOFTWARE is corrupted the computer itself is left undamaged in terms of hardware.
I'm not saying that certain forms of malware can't affect hardware under bizarre circumstances but generally this seems to be an old wives tail. If you rewrite the Master Boot Record on Windows Re flash Firmware and completely format and reinstall Windows it WILL fix even the most complex malware ROOTKITS like tdl4 which installs itself to the MBR (Master Boot Record.)
Why can't you do the same thing on an Android phone? Lets pretend the system gets extremely corrupted from being root what keeps me from removing everything and completely re-installing android? I don't get how you can permanently brick your phone from a software issue alone no matter how corrupted the phone is?
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Nobody has anything to say about this? I'm amazed. I've been reading online that it's hard to permanently brick your phone from rooting alone but some say it's impossible I get different theories everywhere lol?
ableright said:
Nobody has anything to say about this? I'm amazed. I've been reading online that it's hard to permanently brick your phone from rooting alone but some say it's impossible I get different theories everywhere lol?
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Thread moved to Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting.
Perhaps if you post in the correct forum, you would get more responses.
ableright said:
So I've heard that some people have permanently bricked their phones by rooting them and making mistakes and I just don't understand this. I have rooted mine and it isn't bricked or anything but how is this possible?
Coming from Windows/PC Windows programming and maintenance I've fixed computer that had absolute corrupted hardware from malware or user error. No matter how bad the SOFTWARE is corrupted the computer itself is left undamaged in terms of hardware.
I'm not saying that certain forms of malware can't affect hardware under bizarre circumstances but generally this seems to be an old wives tail. If you rewrite the Master Boot Record on Windows Re flash Firmware and completely format and reinstall Windows it WILL fix even the most complex malware ROOTKITS like tdl4 which installs itself to the MBR (Master Boot Record.)
Why can't you do the same thing on an Android phone? Lets pretend the system gets extremely corrupted from being root what keeps me from removing everything and completely re-installing android? I don't get how you can permanently brick your phone from a software issue alone no matter how corrupted the phone is?
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bricked phone can unbrick using reinstall the firmware just like you say in windows
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
bricked phone can unbrick using reinstall the firmware just like you say in windows
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That's what I was figuring. So basically the entire concept of permanently bricking your phone from rooting alone or messing things up as root is essentially a spooky incorrect nonsense tale spread around the internet?
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That's what I was figuring. So basically the entire concept of permanently bricking your phone from rooting alone or messing things up as root is essentially a spooky incorrect nonsense tale spread around the internet?
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rooting is not process of brick your device .it gives access the phone as super user.it just install su bin in system/bin folder
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
rooting is not process of brick your device .it gives access the phone as super user.it just install su bin in system/bin folder
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No I know that friend (My phone is rooted right now) but what I don't understand is all these people saying things like they accidentally deleted xyz files or programs in root and now their phone is PERMANENTLY BRICKED.
I didn't think it was possible to permanently brick something like a phone from a software issue alone? What keeps them from re-flashing the device?
ableright said:
No I know that friend (My phone is rooted right now) but what I don't understand is all these people saying things like they accidentally deleted xyz files or programs in root and now their phone is PERMANENTLY BRICKED.
I didn't think it was possible to permanently brick something like a phone from a software issue alone? What keeps them from re-flashing the device?
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Half the time people don't know what rooting is, they just know that they want it to install and show off 'cool' root apps. Attribute it to lack of knowledge, not reading the instructions first or following the instructions religiously or, in case they mess up their phone, not wanting to search for a solution which most likely would already have been posted by someone somewhere.
I've messed up my old Motorola Defy more times than I'd like to admit - so often that I uploded a copy of all the required files on my SD card and on the cloud so that I could access it anywhere - but following the instructions posted online helped me revert to stock with no hassles.
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Half the time people don't know what rooting is, they just know that they want it to install and show off 'cool' root apps. Attribute it to lack of knowledge, not reading the instructions first or following the instructions religiously or, in case they mess up their phone, not wanting to search for a solution which most likely would already have been posted by someone somewhere.
I've messed up my old Motorola Defy more times than I'd like to admit - so often that I uploded a copy of all the required files on my SD card and on the cloud so that I could access it anywhere - but following the instructions posted online helped me revert to stock with no hassles.
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if you delete basic system app you will go to the boot loops but if you got hardbrick during flashing rom then it ia difficult to unbrick your device.it occurs when you remove battery while flashing is running
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
if you delete basic system app you will go to the boot loops but if you got hardbrick during flashing rom then it ia difficult to unbrick your device.it occurs when you remove battery while flashing is running
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But that's still a software issue correct? Therefore in theory it should be fixable am I right?
ableright said:
But that's still a software issue correct? Therefore in theory it should be fixable am I right?
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It depends. Software needs hardware to work and hardware needs software. It matters what part of software you mess. You get a permanent brick when you are ****ing the bootloader. Then you get your hard brick. Think of the bootloader like the bios of your computer. The bootloader is the boss. If you mess the bootloader you can't enter recovery and so on. So game over. But yeah when rooting you can delete some system files that are checked by the bootloader and get a secure boot fail or a bootloop. If you have the Stock Rom you can flash that if not then you are soft bricked but still can't fix the soft brick.
HIT THANKS if i helped you.
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But that's still a software issue correct? Therefore in theory it should be fixable am I right?
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yes it is fixable
it on bricked permanently when device hardware will damage
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
yes it is fixable
it on bricked permanently when device hardware will damage
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That's what I figured. It seems to a large degree then that these anti rooting people are mostly silly
ableright said:
That's what I figured. It seems to a large degree then that these anti rooting people are mostly silly
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but really you want to brick your phone?
there are also one click brick tool for bricking your phone
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
but really you want to brick your phone?
there are also one click brick tool for bricking your phone
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No I don't want to brick my phone I was just curious if there was something I didn't know in terms of software somehow causing your phone to permanently brick in a way that couldn't be fixed and it appears from what I've heard from you guys on here that that is not possible and that's a good thing.
ableright said:
No I don't want to brick my phone I was just curious if there was something I didn't know in terms of software somehow causing your phone to permanently brick in a way that couldn't be fixed and it appears from what I've heard from you guys on here that that is not possible and that's a good thing.
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there is one click brick tool available
after using it your device will be just a garbage
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
there is one click brick tool available
after using it your device will be just a garbage
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So I guess that's my ultimate questions lets even say you use one of these 1 click brick tools there is still no possible way to fix your phone at that point? The hardware of the phone would remain unchanged so essentially it should be impossible to re-install the OS etc. and your phone would work again am I right?
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So I guess that's my ultimate questions lets even say you use one of these 1 click brick tools there is still no possible way to fix your phone at that point? The hardware of the phone would remain unchanged so essentially it should be impossible to re-install the OS etc. and your phone would work again am I right?
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i have't try it just read about it on xda
i don't want to brick my phone so i don't know it cause permanent brick or not
but this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701969
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
i have't try it just read about it on xda
i don't want to brick my phone so i don't know it cause permanent brick or not
but this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701969
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I get your point on that lol I just wish I had a definitive answer on whether or not a software issue alone on android can permanently brick your phone in suck a way that you can't fix it and how scientifically that's possible as I find this interesting!
ableright said:
I get your point on that lol I just wish I had a definitive answer on whether or not a software issue alone on android can permanently brick your phone in suck a way that you can't fix it and how scientifically that's possible as I find this interesting!
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Hey guys
I have a lgp500 phone and i am thinking of rooting my phone, as i hate the touchscreen bug that makes the cpu go 100%, soo laggy
anyways i have a few questions that i would like to know about rooting before i attempt it.
firstly ill start by listing my phone software etc
Android version - 2.2.1
Kernal Version - 2.6.32.9
Build Number - FRG83
Software Version - V10b-DEC-13-2010
and now my questions
1. Well the most obvious question. Is it possible to root my phone?
2. My main ques - What are the chances of bricking my phone? as in to a point that would leave my phone completely useless.
3.At what steps of the rooting process can the phone be bricked?
4. How does rooting work? - basically i just want to learn about everything so i know how the system works and how kernal etc work - so that i wont do anything stupid when im rooting
for now thats all, but ill probly have a alot more once i get answers to these
please help
thanks
first of all u will need to downgrade to android 2.2.then u can root it and enjoy!
Ramis93 said:
1. Well the most obvious question. Is it possible to root my phone?
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Not yet. Android 2.2.1 is not rootable at the moment. A downgrade to v2.2 is necessary, as upendra_p said.
Ramis93 said:
2. My main ques - What are the chances of bricking my phone? as in to a point that would leave my phone completely useless.
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Chances are very small, but there are.
Ramis93 said:
3.At what steps of the rooting process can the phone be bricked?
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At the downgrade, when you have to flash the phone with a different Android version using an application that sometimes fails. But that's rare.
Ramis93 said:
4. How does rooting work? - basically i just want to learn about everything so i know how the system works and how kernal etc work - so that i wont do anything stupid when im rooting
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"Rooting" simply gives various applications wider system rights, so that they are able to perform actions otherwise forbidden, such as messing with system settings and allowing critical system files to be modified or deleted. It also is an important step needed if you decide to install a custom ROM -- a modified and (usually) improved version of Android.
Rooting is not for the faint of the heart
However, keep in mind that you can find all the help you need on this forums...
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Not yet. Android 2.2.1 is not rootable at the moment. A downgrade to v2.2 is necessary, as upendra_p said.
Chances are very small, but there are.
At the downgrade, when you have to flash the phone with a different Android version using an application that sometimes fails. But that's rare.
"Rooting" simply gives various applications wider system rights, so that they are able to perform actions otherwise forbidden, such as messing with system settings and allowing critical system files to be modified or deleted. It also is an important step needed if you decide to install a custom ROM -- a modified and (usually) improved version of Android.
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about the chances on bricking my phone, i understand they are small
but approximately how small? like a number?
i understand its different for each phone, so how much would it be for my phone?
Well it depends on how well you read and follow the instructions.
I have installed Custom ROMs on a total of 3 phones with 100% success.
And in short Rooting is like being Administrator in Windows, you can do anything you feel like doing, even if that means bricking your device.
Ramis93 said:
about the chances on bricking my phone, i understand they are small
but approximately how small? like a number?
i understand its different for each phone, so how much would it be for my phone?
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It's not the phone it's usually the user. You should never attempt to mess with something unless you know what you're doing. Take that from someone who actually bricked his phone by not knowing enough.
Best advice against bricking is never try to flash something that's not meant for your specific device.
And if you wanna put a number on it post your IQ.
Ahmmm... i just used z4root and in just one click, im already rooted. Very easy XD. The part where you should be cautious about is flashing back to android 2.2 that is where a lot of p500 get brick. Just read the forums more.
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@OP, just take note of the important steps & thing you should check before proceeding like turning LG modem off in device manager. though my friends have downgraded even without checking that option, its always better to follow the instruction to be safe.
& also after rooting, take your time when installing custom recovery. it is also responsible for bricking quite a few mobiles. i'll advice copy paste the commands to avoid any typo.
Hi guys,
I dont have my phone bricked yet even though i thought i did it wouldnt load past the DAS BAMF loading screen when i was upgrading from BAMF 2.1 MR 2 to BAMF Sense 3.0 , and i had to flash a MR1 Radio Ruu that came with my TB Root Kit. IT was the RUU that was flashed after the downgrade. I was like phew i just unbricked my phone I think... anyways i dunno if i really unbricked it or even if it was bricked in the first place.... MY question is IF you do have your TB Bricked how do you unbrick it? I know with Galaxys you just use a software called odin that pushes the whole system back on from scratch... is there an odin type of software for the TB that will unbrick our bricked phones. or are TB users for ever doomed to having to throw their bricks away if ever bricked?
over and out
the one and only BHBMASTER
Just read before flashing, don't do anything stupid, and you won't have to worry about it bricking.
I believe the term "brick" is used much too widely. A phone isn't bricked unless you cannot access the boot loader for whatever reason. By your sense of the term you would flash a different RUU in HBOOT. But just to verify, bricking your device means you have turned it into a $200 paper weight.
Someone feel free to correct me, but everything I've read tells me a "bricked" phone is one that has suffered some form of hardware failure, which results in an inability to get into hboot or CWR long enough to do anything.
Bricks have happened to stock unrooted users as well.
So no, there is no coming back yet from a true brick. Bootloops can be recovered (I know, I've had several).
Bottom line, root away, just read and follow directions.
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Typically a full brick (or just brick) refers to one that can't be fixed (at least not without a JTAG device or desoldering the EEPROM/Flash/eMMC chip and using a seperate programmer). A semi-brick refers to one that you have to go into recovery to fix (i.e. flash a RUU or use a nandroid backup). Unfortunately, many people say brick when they really mean semi-brick.
nl3142 said:
Typically a full brick (or just brick) refers to one that can't be fixed (at least not without a JTAG device or desoldering the EEPROM/Flash/eMMC chip and using a seperate programmer). A semi-brick refers to one that you have to go into recovery to fix (i.e. flash a RUU or use a nandroid backup). Unfortunately, many people say brick when they really mean semi-brick.
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This. Brick means you can't fix it, it's a paperweight. If you can Odin or flash in hboot, it's not bricked. To the OP, flashing an ruu in hboot is the equivalent of flashing through Odin.
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nl3142 said:
Typically a full brick (or just brick) refers to one that can't be fixed (at least not without a JTAG device or desoldering the EEPROM/Flash/eMMC chip and using a seperate programmer). A semi-brick refers to one that you have to go into recovery to fix (i.e. flash a RUU or use a nandroid backup). Unfortunately, many people say brick when they really mean semi-brick.
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This "at least not without a JTAG device or desoldering the EEPROM/Flash/eMMC chip and using a seperate programmer" you speak of, sounds very interesting and fun... what is it exactly and where is the best place to learn about it... i know i could just google it but u guys on XDA are smarter then google
A bricked phone means that your phone is about as good as a brick. It can't be fixed. Period. I've never bricked a phone before. I've screwed some up royally, but was always able to fix. Rooting is not something for people who are not technically inclined, and aren't familiar with command prompts. Always do your homework. Read as much as you can before trying anything. If its too over your head, you probably shouldn't try it.
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Hey guys,
I want to know potential ways to brick my phone so I will be more careful.
Which ones will brick my phone?
1. Flashing recovery for another phone
2. Flashing ROM for another phone
3. Flashing just the kernel for another phone
4. Flashing wrong ROM without the kernel
5. Flashing a mod for another phone
6. Pulling the battery when doing a NAND restore/backup
7. Pulling the battery when installing a mod or a ROM
Or any others you know about. Thanks!
And no, I don't want to brick my phone, this is for prevention
To be honest its seriously not recommended to do any of the things you listed, some of them you may be able to restore your NAND to fix others will kill your phone. Just make sure you follow the guides on here and you'll be fine. But seriously don't install mods or roms that are for another phone.
Sent From My Omega'd Galaxy S3 ...
Don't do any of those....its still a £500 phone and doing any of those things you mentioned will reduce your phone to a rather uncomfortable form of loo roll! If you catch my drift....
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That depends on the definition of "bricking". For me, a bricked phone is one that can no longer be fixed no matter what you do: it has no use other than an expensive paperweight.
Flashing kernels (even if wrong ones) won't brick your phone. They will render your phone unuseable until a proper kernel is flashed, but it isn't a brick.
Also, wrong ROMs won't brick your phone UNLESS they also contain a bootloader and/or a Partition Information Table (PIT) file, which is quite rare.
So, bricking (by my definition), only happens when you mess with the bootloader and/or the PIT, because those are either impossible or extremely hard to fix.
No matter what you do, DO NOT mess with the bootloader: as long as the bootloader is ok, everything else (including the PIT) can be fixed with some effort.
Simonetti2011 said:
That depends on the definition of "bricking". For me, a bricked phone is one that can no longer be fixed no matter what you do: it has no use other than an expensive paperweight.
Flashing kernels (even if wrong ones) won't brick your phone. They will render your phone unuseable until a proper kernel is flashed, but it isn't a brick.
Also, wrong ROMs won't brick your phone UNLESS they also contain a bootloader and/or a Partition Information Table (PIT) file, which is quite rare.
So, bricking (by my definition), only happens when you mess with the bootloader and/or the PIT, because those are either impossible or extremely hard to fix.
No matter what you do, DO NOT mess with the bootloader: as long as the bootloader is ok, everything else (including the PIT) can be fixed with some effort.
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Thank you, that's exactly the answer I was looking for. So it's impossible to hardbrick my SGS3 unless I flash the bootloader?
Glebun said:
Thank you, that's exactly the answer I was looking for. So it's impossible to hardbrick my SGS3 unless I flash the bootloader?
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Yes, or the PIT (Partition Information table).
Never, EVER, flash any of these, unless you know EXACTLY what and why you are doing it: PIT, Bootloader, Recovery.
Flashing kernels and simple ROMs (such as the stock ones) don't brick your phone.
Simonetti2011 said:
Flashing kernels and simple ROMs (such as the stock ones) don't brick your phone.
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What bout custom ROMs, like CM10?
Glebun said:
What bout custom ROMs, like CM10?
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You have to know if they include a recovery and/or bootloader before flashing.
Usually they DON'T, but you have to check.
Besides, you don't need CMW ( = recovery) to use CM10 ( = ROM), although some badly informed people will tell you that you do.
Glebun said:
Hey guys,
I want to know potential ways to brick my phone so I will be more careful.
Which ones will brick my phone?
1. Flashing recovery for another phone
2. Flashing ROM for another phone
3. Flashing just the kernel for another phone
4. Flashing wrong ROM without the kernel
5. Flashing a mod for another phone
6. Pulling the battery when doing a NAND restore/backup
7. Pulling the battery when installing a mod or a ROM
Or any others you know about. Thanks!
And no, I don't want to brick my phone, this is for prevention
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Well, even though it's only for prevention;
this is the ultimate way of bricking a device:
Take a picture or download a picture of the desired device, make sure it fits onto a brick, then glue the picture onto a brick, voilà, you now have a bricked device.
Now to serious things:
All the things you wrote are correct.
Hope I could help!
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
familyguy59 said:
Now to serious things:
All the things you wrote are correct.
Hope I could help!
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
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What do you mean? I just asked a question. Are you saying that all of the actions I listed will hardbrick my device? So who should I believe then?
Glebun said:
What do you mean? I just asked a question. Are you saying that all of the actions I listed will hardbrick my device? So who should I believe then?
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They can potentially brick your device, because they use different drivers, files, etc. ... and the partitions are stored in different parts of the memory, changing these partitions can confuse the device and therefore brick it.
I said "serious things" because the first thing I wrote, was a n00b joke, I saw on the forums a while back...
Believe what you wish, all I'm saying is this:
if you flash something to your device, that was intentioned for a different device, then it's your responsibility, because most devs/modders warn you, and I did here, now. Everything you do to your device voids your warranty, and potentially harms your device, what you do to your phone is your thing, all we can do is advise you not to do things, it's your responsibility..
Hope I could help!
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
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Simonetti2011 said:
That depends on the definition of "bricking". For me, a bricked phone is one that can no longer be fixed no matter what you do: it has no use other than an expensive paperweight.
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You can always repair a bricked device with a JTAG, it's just the cost and the time consumption, that scares people off
LG familyguy59/Beatsleigher
I'd just pull the battery while flashing a bootloader. Guaranteed brick with little chances of recovery. You need to be fast though, that bootloader is really small and flashes fast
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They can potentially brick your device, because they use different drivers, files, etc. ... and the partitions are stored in different parts of the memory, changing these partitions can confuse the device and therefore brick it.
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So Simonetti2011 is wrong?
familyguy59 said:
They can potentially brick your device, because they use different drivers, files, etc. ... and the partitions are stored in different parts of the memory, changing these partitions can confuse the device and therefore brick it.
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You are incorrect.
Only a PIT file can change partitions.
Besides, the location of files are standardized across firmwares.
that is why I wrote (page 1 of this thread) that the ROM being flashed must inform if they contain PIT's or recoveries. Stock ROMs (and all ROMs based on Samsung stock ROMs) do not change the PIT, recovery or bootloader.
If the user is going to flash a ROM that is not stock-based AND the developer of the ROM won't tell what it does, then simply avoid that ROM.
I stand correct: as long as the PIT and bootloader are untouched, the phone can be revived with very little effort (matter of minutes).
A JTAG can certainly be used in most cases, but not only it will take a few days (to get the thing delivered), but it will also be quite expensive and demand a lot of technical knowledge. So, I usually consider a device that requires a JTAG to be revived as bricked since I'd rather send it to an authorized service center than try to do it myself and make things worse.
My (most of ours, I guess) S III has a 1 year warranty. I figure that I can mess with it pretty bad and if it gets FUBAR I'll simply send it a service center.
So far, I'm yet to brick my SII, my SIII or even a HTC Kaiser which came with Windows Mobile 6.0 and got an upgrade to Android 2.3.7! I've flashed more ROMs than I can remember, I've wiped, I've lost data, but I have never bricked a single phone.
the thing is that whatever I do I read a lot beforehand and if I think - no matter how little - a ROM can be insecure, I simply don't do it.
My experience has taught me that something others consider a "must-have", I consider a waste of time and unnecessary headache and trouble: one such example is CWM.
There are dozens of people here with USB and MHL problems and 99% of them have CWM. That is NOT a coincidence.
I loved overclocking my S II, using SiyahKernel for that, but the device driver support in it (specially for wifi) was so bad that it was a waste of time.
What most people don't get is the definition of BRICKING. Will an improper stock ROM render your phone unusable? YES. Can it be fixed in 5 minutes? YES. Is that bricking? NO.
UNUSABLE <> USELESS
I am on jellybean can I directly flash any ics custom rom from cwm and then wipe and this wont brick my s3 I am asking this question because I had a galaxy note which was on ics and I flashed cm10 on it I had made a backup of the stock rom I found it to be little unstable so I restored the nand backup of stock rom this hard bricked my device
Simonetti2011 said:
That depends on the definition of "bricking". For me, a bricked phone is one that can no longer be fixed no matter what you do: it has no use other than an expensive paperweight.
Flashing kernels (even if wrong ones) won't brick your phone. They will render your phone unuseable until a proper kernel is flashed, but it isn't a brick.
Also, wrong ROMs won't brick your phone UNLESS they also contain a bootloader and/or a Partition Information Table (PIT) file, which is quite rare.
So, bricking (by my definition), only happens when you mess with the bootloader and/or the PIT, because those are either impossible or extremely hard to fix.
No matter what you do, DO NOT mess with the bootloader: as long as the bootloader is ok, everything else (including the PIT) can be fixed with some effort.
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Did You Mean If I Flashed Custom ROM Made Specially For My Phone (Codec For i9300) My Phone Will Not Hard Brick?
THE.W!ZARD said:
Did You Mean If I Flashed Custom ROM Made Specially For My Phone (Codec For i9300) My Phone Will Not Hard Brick?
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that means if you flash ANY custom ROM, you won't hard brick, because they don't touch the bootloader
Glebun said:
What bout custom ROMs, like CM10?
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CM10 is safe. It does not include any of these information that can brick your phone.
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Glebun said:
that means if you flash ANY custom ROM, you won't hard brick, because they don't touch the bootloader
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Yes, typically but keep in mind that if you flash rom from different phone model then it might soft brick your phone or some core services might not work.
I kinda did it to myself a couple of weeks ago. I have international i9300 and I flashed a rom for att. everything went smooth but my phone reception was not working. I was like WTF. then I checked rom correctly and I find it was for ATT. I was terrified that I might have broke my phone's reception forever. But then I again flashed CM10 for i9300 international and I am back into game again.
So when you flash any rom, try to double check phone model and reviews in discussion thread.
Yeah, but a soft brick is not a problem at all. I'm sure all of us have had a couple of them
Glebun said:
Yeah, but a soft brick is not a problem at all. I'm sure all of us have had a couple of them
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yes
Hi! I'm a total cell newbie, so pardon.
I want to root my phone just so I can actually put apps on my SD card. There's a few bits I want to understand first:
I've read that I am not going to want to accept OTAs. I've also read that some phones automatically accept OTAs. Since I don't plan to change my ROM (and I am not entirely sure what ROM refers to... is my "TouchWiz" a ROM?), how can I be sure that my default software isn't going to go trying to install OTAs without asking me?
Is a bricked device actually completely worthless? There's no way to get it back into a working state at ALL, or just no way to get it working without help from your carrier? And what is a "soft brick"?
If I manage to root my phone with the CASUAL one-touch program, how do I unroot if I were interested in doing so?
Please either avoid or explain any jargon you may use in your reply. For instance, if you refer to opening an app.... please just do the courtesy of saying it's an app rather than just assuming I know. If you use an acronym, assume I have no idea what it stands for. It took me forever to figure out what an OTA was, and I still don't quite understand what a ROM is... and that's the extent of my acronyms.
Thanks.
Wow, a lot of demands. Why not start here, as it should answer many of your questions. Threads are stickied for a reason.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
Mandolin Bee said:
Hi! I'm a total cell newbie, so pardon.
I want to root my phone just so I can actually put apps on my SD card. There's a few bits I want to understand first:
I've read that I am not going to want to accept OTAs. I've also read that some phones automatically accept OTAs. Since I don't plan to change my ROM (and I am not entirely sure what ROM refers to... is my "TouchWiz" a ROM?), how can I be sure that my default software isn't going to go trying to install OTAs without asking me?
Is a bricked device actually completely worthless? There's no way to get it back into a working state at ALL, or just no way to get it working without help from your carrier? And what is a "soft brick"?
If I manage to root my phone with the CASUAL one-touch program, how do I unroot if I were interested in doing so?
Please either avoid or explain any jargon you may use in your reply. For instance, if you refer to opening an app.... please just do the courtesy of saying it's an app rather than just assuming I know. If you use an acronym, assume I have no idea what it stands for. It took me forever to figure out what an OTA was, and I still don't quite understand what a ROM is... and that's the extent of my acronyms.
Thanks.
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Touch wiz is a style of ROM if you will.
Touch wiz roms for Samsung.
Motor blur roms for Motorola.
Sense roms for HTC
Aosp roms for nexus phones.
When you have a "touch wiz ROM"
It builds from the stock base code basically. They add freatures and themes and basically ROMs are endless to what they can do.
My phone never tells me about OTAs.
I believe the only time they do this is when on a stock rooted ROM is when something bad could go wrong
Never had any problems on custom ROMs however.
Next,
Bricked devices are very rare and only happen out of stupidity or carelessness in most cases.
Google will tell you how to fix. But I wouldn't worry about it.
As a very frequent flasher of ROMs I have experienced many of times a soft brick. Or a phone in boot loop.
This is when the device powers on but will not boot up. ( stuck on boot animation or splash screen are most common.)
ALL OF THESE ARE FIXABLE.
You can always wipe in a recovery and normally that fixes it.
Soft bricks normally happen from not wiping or bad download.
Also remember you have Odin as a last resort.
Also you can read the sticky threads in android development to figure out how to unroot
They will give you a better explanation on how to do so.
All this is answered by xda and Google.
They are what taught me what I know
They will teach you as well over time.
PM me if you have any other questions
Hit the thanks button so I feel important!
Haha
God bless the American people.
i have been trying root apps like kingroot ect to root with and without pc and it fails everytime.
does boost have something in these phones to prevent it? yes according to kingroot my bootloader was unlocked when i tried rooting. if it helps my device info is
model# LGLs755
hardware. Rev 1.1
android version. 6.0.1
Kernel 3.18.22
build#MXB48T
if their is a way that has worked please let me know...thanks
oh and is their a way to perm unlock the bootloader that wont mess anything up
bigmoe1738 said:
i have been trying root apps like kingroot ect to root with and without pc and it fails everytime.
does boost have something in these phones to prevent it? yes according to kingroot my bootloader was unlocked when i tried rooting. if it helps my device info is
model# LGLs755
hardware. Rev 1.1
android version. 6.0.1
Kernel 3.18.22
build#MXB48T
if their is a way that has worked please let me know...thanks
oh and is their a way to perm unlock the bootloader that wont mess anything up
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Good morning BigMoe1738,
I think that you should try Kingoroot App or iRoot (if you have a PC of course) to root your LG. I have rooted my own LG L3ii using iRoot, but I do not own the LG Ls755.
Please inform me if you try these methods.
Regards,
Apousiologos
I'm finding that the LG x Power is bullet proof. I have tried every kind of way to root it that I can find on the black mart to the internet and youtube. Nothing seems to want to work. The good news is the phone doesn't brick after a failed attempt. That is my experience only. It may freeze up but still can be turned off and back on again.
So I ask... Is there any working things out there?
I want to learn to code to make a way to root if someone wants to help me? Trying to get info to learn how and linux a computer.
Just got a system update from LG... Wondering if I should hold off on it as long as I can?
Such a sad strange sick world we live in where we have to knowingly attempt to make our mobile computers vulnerable to viruses just to have administrative rights to a system we bought and paid for...
Sent from my LGLS755 using Tapatalk
Rooting work with FRP lock enabled?
Hi, I am trying to root my Lg X Power as well. However in preparation of this, I factory reset it, completely forgetting about the FRP.
So long story short, I need some sort of bypass for the FRP lock, or a way to root that doesn't care about the FRP being activated.
Hey I just found a post about it at another page, they claim it works on this model, as well as other versions of the X power, has anyone read about it or try it??
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I'm finding that the LG x Power is bullet proof. I have tried every kind of way to root it that I can find on the black mart to the internet and youtube. Nothing seems to want to work. The good news is the phone doesn't brick after a failed attempt. That is my experience only. It may freeze up but still can be turned off and back on again.
So I ask... Is there any working things out there?
I want to learn to code to make a way to root if someone wants to help me? Trying to get info to learn how and linux a computer.
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I would so be down for that if someone would right the code I could figure out how to get that far.
If we can get a stock image for my LG x charge (lg x sp320) im ready to install Magisk...
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
james.ellis92 said:
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
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Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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bornagainpenguin said:
Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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I don't understand why LGLS755 are so hard to root. I tried for months to root it. XDA can't do it I have tried every root tool myself.
boots123456 said:
I don't understand why LGLS755 are so hard to root. I tried for months to root it. XDA can't do it I have tried every root tool myself.
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The reason it can't be rooted is because manufacturers and software developers are securing THEIR investment. By locking down devices it increases security measures against malicious attacks from outside sources and software and decreases the risk of consumers reporting vulnerabilities and attacks on their hardware and software due to end-user modification.
While we own the individual hardware with the software installed, we do not own the RIGHTS or LICENSE to the software and hardware. Therefore we cannot claim to be able to do whatever we want with the device just because it's in our pockets.
You want root? Get any Samsung, HTC, Pixel or older LG device. While the same rule above applies, people try harder on them because they are the most popular devices among users and the ecosystem between them is very similar and easily exploitable.
Aside from all that, root and rom developers don't really give many ****s about low-end, stupid cheap hardware anymore like they used to. *Insert related Metallica lyric here*
DrSubstance said:
Hi, I am trying to root my Lg X Power as well. However in preparation of this, I factory reset it, completely forgetting about the FRP.
So long story short, I need some sort of bypass for the FRP lock, or a way to root that doesn't care about the FRP being activated.
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I bypassed this with the talkback option
How do i root my phone
How do i root my phone it's really pissed me off
bornagainpenguin said:
Here you go:
1) Obtain hammer
2) smash LG Phone
3) research, research, research
4) buy different phone with working root
In all seriousness, if you can take the phone back do so. LG phones do not root. If unable to return it, hopefully you at least got a good deal. Next time do the homework and buy something with a known root. The days of buying a phone and just rooting it with an all-in-one kit are over.
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what? LG phones can get ROOT, its just difficult to do so, and some models can't get it, but not all of them... just unlock bootloader, install the right recovery and then flash super su, of course every phone is different and the procedures may be different
Antel1904 said:
what? LG phones can get ROOT, its just difficult to do so, and some models can't get it, but not all of them... just unlock bootloader, install the right recovery and then flash super su, of course every phone is different and the procedures may be different
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Yeah? Those some models have included the last three that I've purchased. Most of the time a root exists for some European model but not the US model so when I try to do my diligence and research it comes up as having a root method only for me to discover that the method does not actually work.
Your word games to the contrary I think the posts in this thread make it clear that LG phones do not have root. Much easier to write off LG than to keep wasting money on phones that don't actually root. Effectively LG phones do not root.
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I am sorry you haven't rooted yet with this phone.
james.ellis92 said:
I have a boost lg-320 7.1.1 can anyone help me with rooting? Ive tried all the obvious one clickers and im without a PC.
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Hi,
I have the same phone. Lg-sp320 x-charge. On boost/sprint. I have a computer and i can use adb to push files and run a script. I don't know if i need to preform a permanent oem unlock for the bootloader. And im sure i can probably find, well i hope i could find an original firmware. Any help would be a godsend. Thanks.
LG phones do too root. I've done several
equitube said:
LG phones do too root. I've done several
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Great!
Root this one. Root the last several LG phones released. LG phones *used* to root. They do not any more.
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bornagainpenguin said:
Your word games to the contrary I think the posts in this thread make it clear that LG phones do not have root. Much easier to write off LG than to keep wasting money on phones that don't actually root. Effectively LG phones do not root.
Sent from my Lenovo TB-X103F using Tapatalk
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I've rooted several LG phones