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So I am going on a cruise in the Caribbean on Saturday for 5 days and the ship that I will be on has cell coverage for international roaming but when I called Verizon to activate it they declined because I have not been a customer for over one year. I need my phone to work in case of an emergency because the wife and I are leaving our 1 year old son behind with my parents. I have s-off and am on the newest ics leak firmware and radios and running rezrom 2.4. I have the lte toggle app and basically want to know if there is anyway I can be able to receive calls and messages while on vacation. Any help would be great. Thanks guys
If you check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421341
You will see that the Rezound can be used internationally for calls fairly easily. Data and SMS are hit or miss.
What did you ask the Verizon tech? It sounds like they thought you were asking to unlock the SIM. You don't need to unlock your SIM with the Rezound, just insert the SIM of your choice.
I have never heard of a need to have an account for a year to activate international service. Verizon will make good money on you while you roam, but it'll cost less than not activating an international plan with your current SIM and just allowing roaming manually.
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Officially the Rezound is a CDMA only phone. Therefore Verizon can only set up the international operation for 40 countries (No GSM operation). Verizon has a totally separate international help group, and will even loan GSM capable phones. You can turn on the service for a short as a week. Ask for the international group, no regular store employees. They also give you a "help" number to call when you are out of the country.
For on board service, the ship has to have CDMA service as well as the more common GSM to handle a stock Rezound. And usually they become your service provider for more $$, not Verizon. You may be able to get critical messages through the cruise line if you check with them and arrange it ahead of time.
That said it international rates are expensive (data is outrageous) and even in 40 countries where Verizon shows service it is often hit or miss (like the Caymans for me). But as said before, get a GSM SIM card (check on line deals) and the phone can generally work for voice and SMS reception (not replies) in up to 160 countries depending on what card you buy. There are a number of threads that provide more info, and even ROMS like Venasaur for better international use support.
Is it possible to unlock the Verizon version of the S4? I'm deploying in 4 weeks and would like to use my phone with international carriers. I have an SCH-I545 build and I'm still running on stock. Thanks
I think ATT has begun to unlock phones internationally when asked.
Verizon? Not sure... one think to check is if the Verizon GS4 supports a carrier in the country you travel to.
Take a look at Leo Laporte's Tech Guy show... he has callers ask this quetion on average every other week... I think he has show notes on his site now days... techguylabs.com
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PetrichorXFi said:
I think ATT has begun to unlock phones internationally when asked.
Verizon? Not sure... one think to check is if the Verizon GS4 supports a carrier in the country you travel to.
Take a look at Leo Laporte's Tech Guy show... he has callers ask this quetion on average every other week... I think he has show notes on his site now days... techguylabs.com
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Verizon phones are unlocked out of the box, but you have to make sure that the country you are going to has a GSM network.
After a lot of searching, I decided to ask this here:
I have a Verizon S4, but I was wondering if it was actually unlocked out-of-box or if there is something I have to do in order to use it with, for instance, Cricket, or U.S. Cellular. I have done lots of rooting/developing for Android, but have never tried to use an Android phone with a differing carrier. Can anyone help or point me to a thread that helps? (Again, did lots of Googling and XDA-searching)
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After a lot of searching, I decided to ask this here:
I have a Verizon S4, but I was wondering if it was actually unlocked out-of-box or if there is something I have to do in order to use it with, for instance, Cricket, or U.S. Cellular. I have done lots of rooting/developing for Android, but have never tried to use an Android phone with a differing carrier. Can anyone help or point me to a thread that helps? (Again, did lots of Googling and XDA-searching)
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The phone is GSM-unlocked. This means that you buy a SIM, plug it in, then add the proper APN to enable data. (Settings, Connections, More networks, Mobile networks, Access Point Names). The "+" (Add APN) button is disabled if you have a VZ SIM installed but will be enabled if you insert a non-VZ SIM.
Whoever you get the SIM from will tell you what to enter for the APN.
Whether or not it'll work and how fast a network you'll get depends on the bands that the local carrier uses.
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The phone is GSM-unlocked. This means that you buy a SIM, plug it in, then add the proper APN to enable data. (Settings, Connections, More networks, Mobile networks, Access Point Names). The "+" (Add APN) button is disabled if you have a VZ SIM installed but will be enabled if you insert a non-VZ SIM.
Whoever you get the SIM from will tell you what to enter for the APN.
Whether or not it'll work and how fast a network you'll get depends on the bands that the local carrier uses.
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HI k1mu,
So do you mean to say if I purchase this device with full price from VZW ~$400 (month to month plan),
the next thing I can do is take off VZW SIM and would it work on my AT&T GSM SIM in US?
malhotra.aakash said:
HI k1mu,
So do you mean to say if I purchase this device with full price from VZW ~$400 (month to month plan),
the next thing I can do is take off VZW SIM and would it work on my AT&T GSM SIM in US?
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Maybe. While the VZW version is GSM-unlocked for international use, it is unclear how well it works with US GSM carriers. Some people say they can get it to work, some say they can't. Theoretically, it should only take you putting in an AT&T SIM then plugging in the APN data for it to work, but some people still say it won't.
So, you should be able to, but going by the accounts of XDA members, it doesn't always work, which may or may not come down to user error.
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Maybe. While the VZW version is GSM-unlocked for international use, it is unclear how well it works with US GSM carriers. Some people say they can get it to work, some say they can't. Theoretically, it should only take you putting in an AT&T SIM then plugging in the APN data for it to work, but some people still say it won't.
So, you should be able to, but going by the accounts of XDA members, it doesn't always work, which may or may not come down to user error.
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Thanks joshm.1219,
It still leaves me in a dilemma.. I do really want to get a "S4 mini" model but don't want to stuck up with CDMA providers to be true. Might want to use with ATT or Tmobile or H2O.. I visited the VZW store and the model has option under networks as
1. Global
2. LTE/CDMA
3. GSM/UTMS
Now the Qs are,
1. If this model does have a SIM card slot, how at the first point VZW has lock on it
2. When i asked the VZW associate, he was not sure whether they ever do unlock the device or not
3. If I am ready to pay off complete price of the device which is ~400, what else I would need from them to really 'UNLOCK' it?
4. Is there any means by root/flashing to make such model work for US GSM carriers like H2O or even T-mobile.
Sorry to be so annoying but m new to all these things and quite confused :crying:
many Thx in advance..
malhotra.aakash said:
Thanks joshm.1219,
It still leaves me in a dilemma.. I do really want to get a "S4 mini" model but don't want to stuck up with CDMA providers to be true. Might want to use with ATT or Tmobile or H2O.. I visited the VZW store and the model has option under networks as
1. Global
2. LTE/CDMA
3. GSM/UTMS
Now the Qs are,
1. If this model does have a SIM card slot, how at the first point VZW has lock on it
2. When i asked the VZW associate, he was not sure whether they ever do unlock the device or not
3. If I am ready to pay off complete price of the device which is ~400, what else I would need from them to really 'UNLOCK' it?
4. Is there any means by root/flashing to make such model work for US GSM carriers like H2O or even T-mobile.
Sorry to be so annoying but m new to all these things and quite confused :crying:
many Thx in advance..
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Sorry I can't be of more help, I've been on Verizon for 10 years now, but it is by all intents & purposes, fully SIM-unlocked. It's simply unclear as to why some people report problems of using Verizon phones on US GSM carriers. If you really don't want to worry about it & are willing to pay full price, purchase a device through the carrier you want to use it on.
here is the code to choose network
you might need to change the network frequency to gsm if you wanna use it on att or tmobile and when you wanna switch back to verizon choose wcdma try dialing *#*#4636#*#*:good:
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Sorry I can't be of more help, I've been on Verizon for 10 years now, but it is by all intents & purposes, fully SIM-unlocked. It's simply unclear as to why some people report problems of using Verizon phones on US GSM carriers. If you really don't want to worry about it & are willing to pay full price, purchase a device through the carrier you want to use it on.
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I've had people argue with me over this, but the fact is that NO Verizon LTE phone is SIM-locked. None. Nada.
People who claim differently are simply misinformed. (My I545 comes up on AT&T when I plug in my UK SIM and switch to GSM.)
Not to say that all VZ phones are unlocked - my Inc2 had to be unlocked before it would work with that same SIM. If I remember right, it wouldn't connect in the US, either, even after being unlocked. Not so for the GS4.
I appreciate the posts here from people who know. As for me, I am switching to tmobile and will attempt to use this there. If it doesnt work out, I will sell it on swappa and get a nexus 5!
Hi,
Verizon S4 with 4.3 is international unlocked by default.
You just need to select network mode 'GLOBAL'. Then add the right APN.
I am using Indian GSM SIM with the GLOBAL mode selected. All is well for me.
I can provide screenshots if anybody wanna see.
Verizon phones are unlocked out of the box and they DO work fine on US carriers I'm running my Verizon S4 right now on AT&T and I also ran it on tmobile for short time,
even works with Walmart straight talk and Net10 as those are just subsidies of T Mobile and AT&T anyway.
so don't sweat it if you have a verizon phone that uses a sim card, you can run it on any network that uses a SIM card US or international.
baseband issue
Doesn't the MK2 baseband with jb 4.3 block US Sim cards?
Or do I just have a weird s4?
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Doesn't the MK2 baseband with jb 4.3 block US Sim cards?
Or do I just have a weird s4?
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Mine dont? Im on mk2,
soon as I got my verizon s4 replacement from a damaged model that I turned in,
I threw a net10/att sim card in it.
completely stock phone not even rooted nothin, and it works fine, I did get a popup that said non Verizon SIM card but it works fine
calls in and out MMS works fine
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The S4 is supposed to work globally right out of the box, as long as you've called Verizon to enable International roaming on your account. But, used that way, you'll be paying Verizon for International roaming and it's bloody expensive.
The question is, can you remove the SIM and put in a SIM for a local carrier in the foreign country where you are and use the phone on that carrier? That is what being unlocked would allow you to do. Past Verizon phones have not been unlocked to allow this. But, if you called Tech Support and told them you were going to, for example, Europe and wanted to use a local SIM, they would walk you through unlocking (at no charge).
I read a report that the S4 is not locked and that you can use a SIM for a local carrier in Europe, as it comes out of the box. But, I would not trust that. I would call VZW Tech Support and tell them exactly what you want to do - i.e. don't say "can I use my phone in Europe?" The answer to that is yes, you can, at about $1/minute. What you should ask them is, "can I travel to Europe and purchase a SIM from a local carrier and use that in my phone?" If not, they should be able to walk you through unlocking the phone, so you can do that.
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to answer your question simply yes.
let's say I take my phone to Spain are somewhere in the UK, I'll go to store buy a SIM card for local network and BAM local phone number in Europe making phone calls, you can even get Data to work if you have that local carrier's APN settings
no unlocking is required because it is not locked.
other companies AT&T, Sprint, t-mobile, yes you have to get The phone sim unlocked.
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I've had people argue with me over this, but the fact is that NO Verizon LTE phone is SIM-locked. None. Nada.
People who claim differently are simply misinformed. (My I545 comes up on AT&T when I plug in my UK SIM and switch to GSM.)
Not to say that all VZ phones are unlocked - my Inc2 had to be unlocked before it would work with that same SIM. If I remember right, it wouldn't connect in the US, either, even after being unlocked. Not so for the GS4.
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This is 100% correct. NO LTE phones on verizon are sim locked. They are REQUIRED to keep them unlocked because of their agreement with the FCC for their use of the spectrum they lease. NO OTHER CARRIER must abide by these rules. Only VZW. Sprint I've heard will unlock ANY phone that is capable if you ask them too, and AT&T will NOT unlock any of their phones unless it 2 years old and out of contract (which makes no sense if you have to pay them while under contract anyway). There was a big deal about the Iphone 5 when it came out with LTE for verizon. If you bought a Verizon Iphone, you could put an ATT sim in it and it works, but not an ATT on VZW because ATT keeps them locked.
The Dinc 2 above was NOT an LTE device. Therefore no sim card....and it wouldn't work on most overseas networks anyway as it was a CDMA only phone. I believe VZW tested the limits of the "unlocked" SIM with their first few LTE phones. My Rezound worked with a GSM network sim....but voice and SMS only. It took some unlocking of the bootloader and rooting to run a special Rom to get Data to work on it.
I am heading to the Caribbean in a few weeks, and I will be using a rented SIM card to be able to message back and forth with my wife (with a data based messenger service as data rates are far cheaper than SMS rate there)
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This is 100% correct. NO LTE phones on verizon are sim locked. They are REQUIRED to keep them unlocked because of their agreement with the FCC for their use of the spectrum they lease. NO OTHER CARRIER must abide by these rules. Only VZW. Sprint I've heard will unlock ANY phone that is capable if you ask them too, and AT&T will NOT unlock any of their phones unless it 2 years old and out of contract (which makes no sense if you have to pay them while under contract anyway). There was a big deal about the Iphone 5 when it came out with LTE for verizon. If you bought a Verizon Iphone, you could put an ATT sim in it and it works, but not an ATT on VZW because ATT keeps them locked.
The Dinc 2 above was NOT an LTE device. Therefore no sim card....and it wouldn't work on most overseas networks anyway as it was a CDMA only phone. I believe VZW tested the limits of the "unlocked" SIM with their first few LTE phones. My Rezound worked with a GSM network sim....but voice and SMS only. It took some unlocking of the bootloader and rooting to run a special Rom to get Data to work on it.
I am heading to the Caribbean in a few weeks, and I will be using a rented SIM card to be able to message back and forth with my wife (with a data based messenger service as data rates are far cheaper than SMS rate there)
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I just spent a week in the UK with an ekit.com SIM in my Verizon GS4 - no problem with getting service, no Verizon charge (even though I was on the Vodaphone network for at least some times.)
And the dinc 2, while not LTE, was CDMA/GSM - not just CDMA (yes, the dinc was CDMA-only), so it did accept a SIM card. I'm using that in the GS4 now that it's cut down to micro SIM.
That phone WAS SIM-locked, but VZ happily unlocked it. For the GS4, I didn't have to do anything with VZ to use it off their network.
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Is it possible to unlock the Verizon version of the S4? I'm deploying in 4 weeks and would like to use my phone with international carriers. I have an SCH-I545 build and I'm still running on stock. Thanks
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DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO
UNLFOK s4 UK VERSION sorry I'm new to the website
furballbeethoven said:
After a lot of searching, I decided to ask this here:
I have a Verizon S4, but I was wondering if it was actually unlocked out-of-box or if there is something I have to do in order to use it with, for instance, Cricket, or U.S. Cellular. I have done lots of rooting/developing for Android, but have never tried to use an Android phone with a differing carrier. Can anyone help or point me to a thread that helps? (Again, did lots of Googling and XDA-searching)
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The phone is already unlocked for SIM and other carriers, all you need is the correct APN for the carrier. I currently have T-Mobile on my i545 and everything works on it.
Hi folks,
I've got an unlocked HTC One Max which I bought SIM free from Amazon UK. I'm using Three as my network provider in the UK and they've begun rolling out 4G to Glasgow where I live. One of my colleagues is also on Three with a Samsung Galaxy S4 and he started picking up a 4G signal this morning in the office whereas I'm still only seeing 3G. We had a poke around on our respective phones and in the Mobile Network Settings under Network Mode he's got more options than I do, including one for LTE. I've only got two options: WCDMA only and GSM/WCDMA auto. Without being able to select an LTE option in here I don't see how I'm ever going to pick up a 4G signal. Does anyone know why I'm seeing no LTE option in here and how I go about sorting that?
Okay, so I did a live chat with an HTC rep who confirmed that if there's not LTE option available in the settings then I've got the 3G only variant of the handset. I've no idea why HTC would even sell a 3G variant in the UK as it makes no sense at all, but I looked on Amazon and they only sell a single variant of the phone (which is definitely the one I bought) and curiously the listing for it doesn't clarify either way which network protocols it supports. I even tried Googling the product number (99HWN005-00) but I can't find any solid information about which version of the phone that represents. I'm hoping here that it's just a mistake and I should've been sent the proper 4G variant but it's impossible to say for sure when the Amazon listing gives no info at all about what they think they're actually selling. Either way I'll still be trying to get Amazon to take some amount of responsibility here because I think I made a fair assumption that I'd be buying the 'proper' version of the phone from them; especially as there's nothing on their site to tell me otherwise. I suppose it'll be down to how seriously Amazon take customer service as to how far I get with them. God damn it!
Grrrr. So I did another live chat with HTC to try and find out more about which models they sell in the UK. The Amazon listing has a model number and I was hoping HTC would tell me that's the model number for the LTE variant so I could go back to Amazon to say they'd mis-sold me the wrong version. This time though I got a different story; the HTC rep told me my handset is definitely LTE capable and what options you see for networking are tied to what the SIM card is capable of. His assertion was that Three had given me a 3G only SIM card and getting that sorted would fix it.
However, I swapped SIM card with my colleague who's getting a 4G signal from Three and it made no difference on my handset; I still only got the same 3G network options and, of course, only got a 3G signal. It also occurs to me that I checked with another colleague this morning who's got an HTC One but only on a 3G contract with O2 and he's already got the LTE network options (although he only ever gets a 3G signal of course).
So, yeah, this second call to HTC was a load of nonsense. Excellent. Back for a third time I go...
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Grrrr. So I did another live chat with HTC to try and find out more about which models they sell in the UK. The Amazon listing has a model number and I was hoping HTC would tell me that's the model number for the LTE variant so I could go back to Amazon to say they'd mis-sold me the wrong version. This time though I got a different story; the HTC rep told me my handset is definitely LTE capable and what options you see for networking are tied to what the SIM card is capable of. His assertion was that Three had given me a 3G only SIM card and getting that sorted would fix it.
However, I swapped SIM card with my colleague who's getting a 4G signal from Three and it made no difference on my handset; I still only got the same 3G network options and, of course, only got a 3G signal. It also occurs to me that I checked with another colleague this morning who's got an HTC One but only on a 3G contract with O2 and he's already got the LTE network options (although he only ever gets a 3G signal of course).
So, yeah, this second call to HTC was a load of nonsense. Excellent. Back for a third time I go...
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Perhaps the variant you purchased does not support the lte bands that your carrier is using. That's usually the difference between the variants....radio support.
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dottat said:
Perhaps the variant you purchased does not support the lte bands that your carrier is using. That's usually the difference between the variants....radio support.
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Even if that was the case I would still need to see the option in the settings to turn on LTE; I don't even have that option so regardless what bands my carrier is using my phone wouldn't pick up a 4G signal of any kind.
I've basically somehow ended up with a 3G only variant of the phone which frankly they shouldn't even be selling because there's no point. I might ping HTC again with a more direct question but they don't seem to be able to tell me what I've got so it's more likely I'll just go back to Amazon and see what they have to say about it.
Also I did a quick check and Three are using the 800 MHz band which the 4G version of the HTC One definitely supports.
Okay, so, I sort of got it fixed but it's a really stupid situation. There's a key code to get into a hidden setting menu on Android (*#*#4636#*#*) which bypasses the normal options and allows you to force the network mode to any of the ones Android itself supports; so it's got all sorts of weird **** like EVDO and whatever in there. I went in there and forced on 'LTE only' mode and now I can pick up 4G if I stand in certain parts of the office. I've put it to 'GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto' and it should now go up to 4G whenever it gets a strong enough signal and work as it should. Why I've had to do that hack to get it working, and why the normal user level UI doesn't expose the LTE related options, is a ****ing mystery though. With KitKat rolling out that might might sort it but I shouldn't need an OS update to expose functionality the hardware's already capable of. It's really ****ing stupid all in and not doing HTC's rep any favours with me as I'll probably have to repeat the same stupid hack every time I reboot the phone.
Does anyone know if the imei number on a sprint htc one will activate on at&t ? Or will at&t not acknowledge an imei from a sprint htc one ? As a sprint htc one has both an esn and an imei number. Just curious if at&t would allow the sprint imei number on their system ?
No it will not. Sprint is an entirely different beast of a phone. Plus, from what I understand, they don't possess the needed tools to unlock the phone even if it could be put on AT&T's cell bands
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No it will not. Sprint is an entirely different beast of a phone. Plus, from what I understand, they don't possess the needed tools to unlock the phone even if it could be put on AT&T's cell bands
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It's not a question about working on at&t because it's documented all over the net that it will, as you get talk, text and HSPA 4g data you just don't have the ability to receive LTE data. The sprint HTC one does have a imei number my question was will at&t accept that sprint imei number or does it require a different imei number one from an at&t phone ?
In that case, if it's documented all over, then your answer should be in there. Honestly, AT&T's main service relies on the SIM card, not the IMEI like Sprint or Verizon, so if the phone reads the SIM, you should be good to go. You just need to sim unlock the phone, which is the biggest issue you're going to have. Everything I read on the net is that Sprint does not currently have a SIM unlock mech built in, see http://bit.ly/RLoHko
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In that case, if it's documented all over, then your answer should be in there. Honestly, AT&T's main service relies on the SIM card, not the IMEI like Sprint or Verizon, so if the phone reads the SIM, you should be good to go. You just need to sim unlock the phone, which is the biggest issue you're going to have. Everything I read on the net is that Sprint does not currently have a SIM unlock mech built in, see http://bit.ly/RLoHko
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Yes it does but if they do not distinguish it as a good imei for them then in a matter of time they may deactivate the SIM counting it as a bad imei because it's not one known to them. I have done imei tests to see if they show it's a good imei and they come up unknown like they at&t don't recognize the sprint imei number so it's more that just throwing an at&t SIM in and thinking it will just work forever because they may turn it off because they don't recognize the sprint imei number. There are methods on the net to unlock the sprint SIM there is even an app on play store for unlocking the SIM on a sprint HTC one.
I don't know what to tell you then. I've used a number of non-AT&T phones on their network, from the international S3, to unknown knockoffs, with out an issue. Honestly, sometimes you have to be the sacrificial lamb and try it out. Or, you call up AT&T to ask them, and let them know your intention, alot of times, they'll be really helpful. All in all, just my 2-cents
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I don't know what to tell you then. I've used a number of non-AT&T phones on their network, from the international S3, to unknown knockoffs, with out an issue. Honestly, sometimes you have to be the sacrificial lamb and try it out. Or, you call up AT&T to ask them, and let them know your intention, alot of times, they'll be really helpful. All in all, just my 2-cents
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We have gotten off topic, this was in no way asking if it can be done, because it's documented that it can be. it's just not talked about weather the sprint imei number will work. Its about weather at&t will accept the sprint imei number.
Please only respond to this posting if you have personally used a sprint HTC one on at&t or if you have direct knowledge of someone that has. This post is not in any way asking if it can be done because it can as there are videos on the net of sprint HTC one phones on the at&t service. So please don't post trying to say it can't be done.
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We have gotten off topic, this was in no way asking if it can be done, because it's documented that it can be. it's just not talked about weather the sprint imei number will work. Its about weather at&t will accept the sprint imei number.
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People with the Sprint M7 had no issues using AT&T or T-Mobile, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the case for the Sprint M8. If you're SIM-unlocked and your IMEI isn't bad (like those on phones reported stolen), I'm not sure what the problem would be.
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People with the Sprint M7 had no issues using AT&T or T-Mobile, so I don't see why that wouldn't be the case for the Sprint M8. If you're SIM-unlocked and your IMEI isn't bad (like those on phones reported stolen), I'm not sure what the problem would be.
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One might think that but on a test of my sprint imei they done recognize my imei number that is why I am asking for someone that has done it. I do not want to switch to straight talk at&t and have problems because right now I am flashed to a Verizon mvno but only get 3g which I had the flash done professionally and if I just try and have problems I will have messed up my flash as the data passwords would probably need to be programmed once again and the whole time my phone would be down. So I would like to have all my ducks in a row. Verizon 3g just totally blows at&t's HSPA is way better faster 3, 4 or 5 times faster or more. And I hate Verizon with a passion they are the worst company in the world they think they don't need to complete like they think they own the market and they deserve more money than anyone else. I wish they would go out of business for being such blood suckers.
CDMA device on GSM network? Wtf?
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CDMA device on GSM network? Wtf?
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Yes it's called a world phone they have made them for many yeas even the HTC rezound was supposed to have been a world phone. So they could be housed internationally ie most of the world uses gsm.
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CDMA device on GSM network? Wtf?
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Get out from under your rock man lol.
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One might think that but on a test of my sprint imei they done recognize my imei number that is why I am asking for someone that has done it. I do not want to switch to straight talk at&t and have problems because right now I am flashed to a Verizon mvno but only get 3g which I had the flash done professionally and if I just try and have problems I will have messed up my flash as the data passwords would probably need to be programmed once again and the whole time my phone would be down. So I would like to have all my ducks in a row. Verizon 3g just totally blows at&t's HSPA is way better faster 3, 4 or 5 times faster or more. And I hate Verizon with a passion they are the worst company in the world they think they don't need to complete like they think they own the market and they deserve more money than anyone else. I wish they would go out of business for being such blood suckers.
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What do you mean "on a test of my sprint imei they don't recognize my imei number"? You called AT&T and asked them to check it? They might not recognize it because it wasn't an AT&T phone to begin with.
I would flash back to Sprint, perform a SIM-unlock then pop in an AT&T pre-paid SIM. If all else fails, just flash back to the Verizon MVNO.
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What do you mean "on a test of my sprint imei they don't recognize my imei number"? You called AT&T and asked them to check it? They might not recognize it because it wasn't an AT&T phone to begin with.
I would flash back to Sprint, perform a SIM-unlock then pop in an AT&T pre-paid SIM. If all else fails, just flash back to the Verizon MVNO.
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No on an imei check web site it was like the imei number was not recognized. If I call at&t they will ask what kind of phone it is and if I say sprint htc one they are going to say no they cant activate sprint phones on their network.
I dont need to flash back to sprint that would not make any difference, now yes I might have to unlock the sim, but my post was not asking about how to do it all because I know all that.
My question on this posting was will at&t accept the sprint imei number, and I dont want to screw up my straight talk verizon flash to find out because if at&t does not accept it then my flash would be messed up and I would have to pay the guy again to re do my data passwords again and he is very busy and can take a bit, but in the meanwhile my phone service would be off.
So just trying it blind is not an option because it may cost me money and time with my phone service being off.
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On att's network the SIM card is all that you need to get service up and running, the IMEI on the account can actually be wrong and your service can still be working. You can drop by a store and have them issue you a new SIM card and either let them activate it or call customer service and give them the ICCID. It doesn't answer your question but given the phone will accept the SIM card and the antenna can communicate on the carriers bands you should be fine.
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On att's network the SIM card is all that you need to get service up and running, the IMEI on the account can actually be wrong and your service can still be working. You can drop by a store and have them issue you a new SIM card and either let them activate it or call customer service and give them the ICCID. It doesn't answer your question but given the phone will accept the SIM card and the antenna can communicate on the carriers bands you should be fine.
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No the imei number makes all the difference in the world if they dont recognize it they may turn it off like a blacklisted imei. Its all about at&t accepting the sprint imei number if they chose not to you could put 100 sim cards in and it wont matter because if they as in their system does not like the sprint imei then they will lock the sim card out everytime no matter how many sims you use. Its not about the phones capabilities its about at&T allowing the sprint imei number on their network.
Problem solved I tried my sprint imei number on the straight talk web site and it shows good for gsm straight talk at&t service. So I will be buying my activation kit at walmart today and I will be getting gsm straight talk at&t service unlimited talk text and data for $45 a month and it includes LTE data even though my sprint phone wont get LTE still at&t HSPA is still a lot faster than lousy verizion 3g data, and unlimited data through them is a 3 gb a month cap and if you go over you just get throttled oh well, which I never use that much data anyway.
Question. Did you pay full retail?
If so why didn't you just buy the developer edition if you going to use it on GSM.
Or sell your Sprint version and just have to add maybe $150 or more for a unlocked m8
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
Question. Did you pay full retail?
If so why didn't you just buy the developer edition if you going to use it on GSM.
Or sell your Sprint version and just have to add maybe $150 or more for a unlocked m8
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Dude, don't. Just...don't. Whatever the hell is going on here is likely making a lot of peoples' heads hurt.
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First of all, I'm not sure if this is better suited for the M8 section or a more general section, so if it should be moved, please do so mods.
A while ago I gave my HTC One M8 running LeeDroid to my dad, who has been using it on FreedomPop. The other day, he took it in to an AT&T corporate store to switch it over to them, but they were unable to get it to work. They tested the SIM they were using in another phone and it worked there, but his phone wouldn't activate. The guy told him it could be because AT&T has started blocking rooted phones from activation, though that sounds a bit unlikely, and I'm not seeing anything about it, so I don't think that's the issue. I should also mention before I gave it to him I was using it on AT&T, until the USB port broke so I got a new phone, after which I fixed the port and gave it to him.
I'm thinking one of two things is happening: they still have the phone in their system from before and that's preventing it from being reactivated (though AFAIK that shouldn't be an issue), or FreedomPop has it locked to them, but I'm not even sure they can do that with a GSM phone since I would think the lock would be on the SIM card, not the phone. Are either of these possible/likely, or could it be because it's rooted and AT&T has changed their policy, or is there something else going on that I'm not considering? Any ideas?
https://support.freedompop.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3308/
My bet is that FreedomPop has the phone locked to them.
Had to Google for FreedomPop, to see what it is. But looking at what I read (and the link provided above), they use the Sprint network, which is a CDMA network. And also it looks like a Sprint phone is mandatory for use on FreedomPop. So all this means to me, that you have the Sprint variant M8. And Sprint phones (due to their CDMA support) are difficult, if not impossible to work on AT&T. With most "GSM" phones, you just put the SIM in the device, and there really shouldn't be any "activation" needed (provided you have a working SIM). But CDMA devices are different. While the Sprint M8 is designed to use some foreign GSM SIMs when travelling abroad, getting them to work on a US GSM network (like AT&T) is difficult to impossible. The Sprint M8 is probably not even the same hardware as the AT&T version M8, although the information is somewhat contradictory on this point.
In short, I don't think your problem has anything to do with root, or it having been used on FreedomPop, per se. The problem is the hardware itself not being compatible with the AT&T network.
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I should also mention before I gave it to him I was using it on AT&T
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As mentioned, it's a GSM phone, specifically it's the AT&T branded version, and has successfully been on the AT&T network before.
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As mentioned, it's a GSM phone
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Don't see where you mentioned that in your top post.
I know you posted to the AT&T M8 device section. But the notion that it is the AT&T (or any GSM version M8) contradicts the statement that the phone was used on FreedomPop. If it's a GSM version (like AT&T) it wouldn't work on a CDMA network like Sprint. And from what the info shows, Sprint is the network used by FreedomPop.
If it were the AT&T version, or any unlocked GSM version, you would be able to just put the AT&T SIM in the phone, and it would work. No "activation" is required. The SIM lock is on the phone (not the SIM), and the only way a phone could be SIM locked (after being unlocked) is by possessing the phone itself, and relocking it.
Root doesn't matter either. All my phones have been rooted, and work fine on AT&T. Again, I just put the SIM in, and it works.
Do fastboot getvar all, and post the results. Delete IMEI and serial number before posting. This will tell us conclusively what version of the phone, and may give us other clues what the problem is.