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Hello everyone. This is my first time starting a thread on XDA-forums.
While I hate ranting, I am noticing a trend of ROMs being approved by developers in the i777 development forum. While having such approvals assure ROM enthusiasts that the ROM they are downloading is "stable," I believe it causes confusion and tension. Instead of having ROMs be approved by a developer, ROM enthusiasts should flash ROMs they find interest in and report on its stability and so on. What ultimately determines popularity of a ROM is attending to people's needs in a ROM and attentive feedback from developers. I am by no means a developer (yet) but, I just feel this trend is unnecessary. How do you guys feel about this? Am I just being a prissy ***** about this?
What? People are free to flash whatever rom they choose. Even different Developers will try a different developers rom to get a feel for it or to try something new.
I'm pretty sure that's what the roms poll thread is.
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Personally I think it clutters the name, but I really don't care enough.
Just flash what you like, ignore what is approved since most of it is just for ****s & giggles.
the approval thing is just for fun, I do not thing anybody is going to try a rom just cuz is approved or not by a developer, unless you are a real noob which in that case you should not be flashing roms without doing some research first. Best thing to do is to try all the roms available in the developer section and stay with the one you like the most.
Jeez learn to take a joke
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HAHAHA, now I get what he's saying.
The only roms you need to install are the ones I approve.
j/k they'r all good.
Nick281051 said:
Jeez learn to take a joke
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lmao
Red5 said:
HAHAHA, now I get what he's saying.
The only roms you need to install are the ones I approve.
j/k they'r all good.
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i didnt get it at first, either. i was slow to catch on.
There. Mines been fixed. No developers were harmed in the making of my thread title.
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Lol within an hour this thread has several replies. I suppose I didn't get the joke and I should learn more about taking a joke. I assume people will still write on this thread. Just so you know, I just feel a little bothered by it but I never intended to force anyone to change the title of their thread. I just say this because there are people who would other not get the joke (e.g. me) and be a bit confused. Could also be English being my second language. At least I didn't post this **** on the developer's forum...
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At least I didn't post this **** on the developer's forum...
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Believe me, I thank you for that!
Wait... I don't get it - are developers now "approving" each others work?
"approving" your own work is kind of pointless, unless you're making a joke about United States campaign advertising regulations - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_approve_this_message
Considering that the presidential races are starting to heat up, I'm guessing more political ads are starting to show up and people are joking about it.
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There. Mines been fixed. No developers were harmed in the making of my thread title.
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LMAO
i almost spit my drink when i read the new title
For the record, I didn't actually approve Ultimatum.
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MikeyMike01 said:
For the record, I didn't actually approve Ultimatum.
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Lol, now that's funny
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What? People are free to flash whatever rom they choose. Even different Developers will try a different developers rom to get a feel for it or to try something new.
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I don't quite understand what sense of entitlement you think you have? Just because you are a moderator doesn't give you the right to be a jackass. Not just this comment but most of yours contain a hint of "don't post anything because I am the greater than god Almighty". Go ahead and delete this comment, I don't care. While you're at it, go get a real job.
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MikeyMike01 said:
For the record, I didn't actually approve Ultimatum.
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Ouch.
treyvaporizer said:
I don't quite understand what sense of entitlement you think you have?
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He haz banhammer.
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treyvaporizer said:
I don't quite understand what sense of entitlement you think you have? Just because you are a moderator doesn't give you the right to be a jackass. Not just this comment but most of yours contain a hint of "don't post anything because I am the greater than god Almighty". Go ahead and delete this comment, I don't care. While you're at it, go get a real job.
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Huh? I cant tell if your serious or just trolling. If you're trolling then you got me.
Edit: I just re-read what you put after quoting me. Did my initial post come off as being a ****? I was seriously confused at to what the OP was meaning. I thought he didnt know that people could freely flash roms unless they were approved. I didnt realize he was just talking about all the name titled jokes.
treyvaporizer said:
I don't quite understand what sense of entitlement you think you have? Just because you are a moderator doesn't give you the right to be a jackass. Not just this comment but most of yours contain a hint of "don't post anything because I am the greater than god Almighty". Go ahead and delete this comment, I don't care. While you're at it, go get a real job.
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Hi. I'm a jerk. That is all.
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A possibility, for sure...
But a probability? Thoughts?
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It is probable. If you've read the forums protekk is building us a working ril for aokp/cM9. Many other devices are helping him check the general section
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Markus?
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There are a few threads open on this topic already, check them out...
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jackpot08 said:
It is probable. If you've read the forums protekk is building us a working ril for aokp/cM9. Many other devices are helping him check the general section
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And leave the man alone..he already had a post rezound users are up his a$$ about it.
When or if it comes, it comes. He said he would work on it. I don't remember seeing him giving any guarantees or timeframes, so just chill out. Or figure RIL out yourself.
Edit: this was.directed mostly at OP :banghead:......not jackpot:thumbup:
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ericsignals said:
And leave the man alone..he already had a post rezound users are up his a$$ about it.
When or if it comes, it comes. He said he would work on it. I don't remember seeing him giving any guarantees or timeframes, so just chill out. Or figure RIL out yourself.
Edit: this was.directed mostly at OP :banghead:......not jackpot:thumbup:
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Haha gotcha I was confused for a second
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jackpot08 said:
Haha gotcha I was confused for a second
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Sorry for the confusion jackpot... This place has gotten out of hand lately with stupid threads. I don't even care about Aosp, I just like options. I feel bad for those working on it.
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ericsignals said:
And leave the man alone..he already had a post rezound users are up his a$$ about it.
When or if it comes, it comes. He said he would work on it. I don't remember seeing him giving any guarantees or timeframes, so just chill out. Or figure RIL out yourself.
Edit: this was.directed mostly at OP :banghead:......not jackpot:thumbup:
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Leave the man alone? You assume that I was going to jump down his throat about it - based on what? I asked a simple question that did not warrant you being condescending about it.
The same applies to you telling me to chill out? Again, I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION.
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jimbo.levy said:
Leave the man alone? You assume that I was going to jump down his throat about it - based on what? I asked a simple question that did not warrant you being condescending about it.
The same applies to you telling me to chill out? Again, I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION.
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All he's really getting at is that this question has already been answered. Typically people will take some time to research whether or not their question has already been answered before posting in the Q & A.
This one has...
Probability is 50/50...it either will or won't. There's you're answer.
However he (protekk) he had to vent about people being patient and they keep pestering him he may decide its not worth the time and move on. So as long as people are working on it there is a possibility. If they stop chances drop, simple as that.
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Probability is 50/50...it either will or won't. There's you're answer.
However he (protekk) he had to vent about people being patient and they keep pestering him he may decide its not worth the time and move on. So as long as people are working on it there is a possibility. If they stop chances drop, simple as that.
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He already stated that he will continue to work on this for us even tho people are bugging him
This thread needs to be close, it's a troll playground
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/24660-aokp-vigor-may-2-milestone-5-404/
This may help.
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All he's really getting at is that this question has already been answered. Typically people will take some time to research whether or not their question has already been answered before posting in the Q & A.
This one has...
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I appreciate that, I just didn't think it was fair that my thread my squashed.
Equally, I addressed CM9 too, and I was unable to find any threads on that.
Please don't mistake this for one of those "when is it out?/how long?" threads. I asked for your thoughts on it i.e. what do you think about the likelihood of CM9 on our device?
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Probability is 50/50...it either will or won't. There's you're answer.
However he (protekk) he had to vent about people being patient and they keep pestering him he may decide its not worth the time and move on. So as long as people are working on it there is a possibility. If they stop chances drop, simple as that.
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Whatever man. I know how devs work and I know how irritating it is to be plagued and you respond to me like I don't have a clue. Read my above response to mpalatsi. Maybe that'll help you understand my point a little more.
Idiot.
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Yeah, close the thread please. I was simply hoping to open a discussion of some sort.
Clearly some people think they know better.
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jimbo.levy said:
Yeah, close the thread please. I was simply hoping to open a discussion of some sort.
Clearly some people think they know better.
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CM9 has a thread in the dev section... No offense but these discussions are already open in other threads.
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mjones73 said:
CM9 has a thread in the dev section... No offense but these discussions are already open in other threads.
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Wait, let me make sure I understand you.... You want him to post this kind of stuff in the development section and not the q and a? 0.o There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking a question in the q and a section, though you really should search more thoroughly in the future.
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Wait, let me make sure I understand you.... You want him to post this kind of stuff in the development section and not the q and a? 0.o There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking a question in the q and a section, though you really should search more thoroughly in the future.
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I was just saying there is a nightly thread for CM9 that you could probably get the status of where it is. I've seen a number of threads asking about ASOP also in various sections...
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Can u guys just shut up
I would like to make a request to the community.
We, as a community really need to shape-up. This place is absolutely crazy. There are harmless threads that turn into spam and people complaining about aosp. The fact is we need to stop this. All of you know you hate this too but stooping down to the level of these trolls only makes things worse.
What we really need is for the mod team to really come down hard on this place. Not just the trolls but everyone. Everyone has a role in this.
People need to be infracted or banned or whatever and these threads need to be sent to the damn trash.
This isn't just a job for the mods either. Users need to stop feeding the fire that trolls start.
We need to take the initiative to shape up before this community goes down as the one that scared everyone off and died. Seriously think about it...
I've been wondering why people aren't banned.
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blestsol said:
I've been wondering why people aren't banned.
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Seriously people need to get banned at least temporarily.
It's pretty simple, really. Ignore them, report them, they will go away.
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It's pretty simple, really. Ignore them, report them, they will go away.
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I know I do but there's still people that argue bck with them and it grows exponentially before the thread is closed or deleted
I must be in the wrong threads.
I use Nilsp's ROM exclusively, so I don't get into many other threads. His thread is relatively clean, with very few people asking questions answered in the first page...and absolutely no sniping at all.
douger1957 said:
I must be in the wrong threads.
I use Nilsp's ROM exclusively, so I don't get into many other threads. His thread is relatively clean, with very few people asking questions answered in the first page...and absolutely no sniping at all.
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Lucky you. You absolutely dodged everything that happened
It's because Nils is a super classy guy with super classy users.
...says the guy with the Cornholio avatar.
BBEgo said:
It's because Nils is a super classy guy with super classy users.
...says the guy with the Cornholio avatar.
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One of these days when I'm not texting the ladies or playing with an aokp build I'm gonna try out his rom
Mikion and Chef Holmes have both been temporarily disabled I think. They both flamed the hell out of all Joelz's threads.
I don't get what the dispute is between XDA and The MikMik. They're both resources for Android development so it makes no sense? If it were Android vs iOS, maybe I'd understand more but this is lunacy.
Developers such as Newt and Scott both frequent both sites and share their work on both so what's the big deal?
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Mikion and Chef Holmes have both been temporarily disabled I think. They both flamed the hell out of all Joelz's threads.
I don't get what the dispute is between XDA and The MikMik. They're both resources for Android development so it makes no sense? If it were Android vs iOS, maybe I'd understand more but this is lunacy.
Developers such as Newt and Scott both frequent both sites and share their work on both so what's the big deal?
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Chefthomas not chef holmes...IDK what happened, he used to be a really cool guy....
AshtonTS said:
Chefthomas not chef holmes...IDK what happened, he used to be a really cool guy....
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Haha you got it dude, I knew it was something like that
But yeah, me too. I was quite surprised when I saw it to be honest. I still don't get the animosity from some of the folks at The MikMik towards XDA though...
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jimbo.levy said:
Haha you got it dude, I knew it was something like that
But yeah, me too. I was quite surprised when I saw it to be honest. I still don't get the animosity from some of the folks at The MikMik towards XDA though...
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neither do it all i know is that it needs to stop.
It's the internet no matter what you do morons will ruin everything... Ignore them and move on.
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neither do it all i know is that it needs to stop.
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I am guessing it is probably due to the fact that if you mention stuff from devs here over there no one gets mad, but so help you god if you mention a dev that went to themikmik over here, as you are probably about to start a flame war...
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I don't think the mod team even exists anymore in this section.
I haven't seen YZ in forever. Numerous people have wanted their threads closed, but they stay open, and all the flame threads still exist.
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I still don't get the animosity from some of the folks at The MikMik towards XDA though...
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Me either but it supports my reasons not to run any of their roms if they support a community like that
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GrayTheWolf said:
I don't think the mod team even exists anymore in this section.
I haven't seen YZ in forever. Numerous people have wanted their threads closed, but they stay open, and all the flame threads still exist.
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The mods are still around. I posted a farewell thread the other day and decided to change the title of the OP and tell everyone about it (sorry about that by the ways guys).
Now that thread has been completely removed, so they're definitely still active...
The ironic part about it, is that I'm still on the Rezound forums even though I bought a Nexus (I still own my Rezound though so I guess I'm allowed - no more trolling, I swear).
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Me either but it supports my reasons not to run any of their roms if they support a community like that
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You should actually go spend a week there and say this again. I can very well say the same thing about xda.
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You should actually go spend a week there and say this again. I can very well say the same thing about xda.
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Yep, and every time someone tries to bring up the xda drama the mods/admins tell everyone to stop. They are definitely taking the high road for the most part.
My opinion, we need to just stop already. These threads are just giving validity to our reputation. We all just need to relax, be respectful to each other, and show some appreciation for the work that the devs do for us for free.
As for the dev on dev public fighting - this just needs to not be tolerated. Period. Either take it to PM, or just shrug your shoulders and say "meh" and keep on keeping on. The only thing the public fighting does is get the rest of the community fired up and then the bashing amongst the devs fans starts. I think the public dev fighting is what really tarnishes this community. Their are always *****y, ungrateful, douchebags within the normal every day users. Everyone just needs to ignore them and let the mod team handle it.
My .02 cents of course.
I think i posted before in the wrong section:
HI all, i recently purchased a ATT Note and love it. I have come back to droid after being on the iphone for a while. I fell in love with the screen. I almost sided with the Galaxy SIII due to the performance being so much better but the display model Note was not running ICS. So i got the note, brought it home and got it updated. Its a great phone, i love it. Especially for me being able to remote into my work computer and assist end users in troubleshooting. I am getting close to returning it though and getting the GSIII due to it being just so much faster. Is there a current ROM available that improves performance? There just seems to be so much lag when opening things up and when typing. The GSIII also has a nice screen but is noticeably smaller to me and that was a drawback but the performance is really better to me and things open instantly. Thanks for any input! I apologize for any repost i did a search and did not really see anything, Thanks for any help!
No, no ROMs exist for this phone.
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Was it just me, or is there really that much of a performance improvement? It seemed much much faster than the note...
What are all the roms in the development section for the Note? Maybe i am using the wrong terminology...
I am looking for something with great performance and the largest screen i can get right now, so i guess that would be the GSIII, huh?
try the ipad
Lol
The note performs fine but spec-wise the GS3 beats it one way or the other (whether you have the international version or a variant).
To me it sounds as though you updated your note OTA and that's just going to cause you problems.
There are plenty of fantastic ROMs for the note here - whether you want to dabble with GB, ICS or JB.
Start reading.
I suggest you begin with the everything note sticky.
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Lol
The note performs fine but spec-wise the GS3 beats it one way or the other (whether you have the international version or a variant).
To me it sounds as though you updated your note OTA and that's just going to cause you problems.
There are plenty of fantastic ROMs for the note here - whether you want to dabble with GB, ICS or JB.
Start reading.
I suggest you begin with the everything note sticky.
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Thanks for some actual help. My last droid was a capitvate. I had to go iPhone for corporate email and such. They are finally supporting touchdown so i am back on droids. I did the update via Kies. I have some basic info now from few people (and you now, so thanks) to get started but my basic question is answered and that is the performance ca be improved so i dont have to switch to the GSIII. Thanks so much!
Performance can be greatly improved. Try flapjaxx uclf6 or hotwires for ics as both provide overclocking. HAve had great success with DaGr8 gingerbread with oc.
I haven't personally tried any of the other dev's roms but have read about them and it doesn't seem like you could lose with any of them. it is just all a matter of what you prefer to have feature wise.
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Thanks for some actual help. My last droid was a capitvate. I had to go iPhone for corporate email and such. They are finally supporting touchdown so i am back on droids. I did the update via Kies. I have some basic info now from few people (and you now, so thanks) to get started but my basic question is answered and that is the performance ca be improved so i dont have to switch to the GSIII. Thanks so much!
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What type of performance increase are you looking for because from personal experience (my brothers GS3) my note was running flappjaxxx's uclf6 rom and my phone was much snappier and responsive ..and the apps we ran side by side..pretty much a toss up on any graphical difference...now if he roots and roms his phone it might be different ...but I gotta work on convincing him(he's terrified of bricking)...good luck hope that helps...
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If you must leave the Note, I suggest the One X. The screen on the SIII is pitiful. And, to top it off, I just left the One X for the Note. I can't tell any reall speed difference. The One X is, however, the sleekest and best built of the new "regular phones". I've heard multitasking complaints with the One X, but I never had any issues. By the way, I haven't sold the One X. I'll still be playing with it, too.
I've read a few of these threads and I've owned both the SG3 and the Note and my brother has a OneX. The performance difference is negligible with the right oc kernel, of which there are several to choose from. And the rom support for the note is off the charts. In my opinion your note is just as good as any phone on the market right now.
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Oh and manelscout4life, there's no reason to lie to other forum members just because they used to rock an iPhone. Its rude and not what this community is about. It would have been better for all concerned if you had simply moved on to the next thread, and in the future please refrain from intentionally misleading people here regardless of your motivation.
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I've read a few of these threads and I've owned both the SG3 and the Note and my brother has a OneX. The performance difference is negligible with the right oc kernel, of which there are several to choose from. And the rom support for the note is off the charts. In my opinion your note is just as good as any phone on the market right now.
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Oh and manelscout4life, there's no reason to lie to other forum members just because they used to rock an iPhone. Its rude and not what this community is about. It would have been better for all concerned if you had simply moved on to the next thread, and in the future please refrain from intentionally misleading people here regardless of your motivation.
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A little searching would have answered his question.
If a camera is VERY important to you, the One X camera beats the other mentioned phones hands down. There really is just no comparison.
ManelScout4Life said:
A little searching would have answered his question.
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That's your excuse? You're supposed to be a senior member and set an example.
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That's your excuse? You're supposed to be a senior member and set an example.
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That's exactly the example I want to set, that people should search instead of asking questions.
Then i suggest that you take a break from these forums. Its obvious that you are burned out and bitter. It even would have been better if you were to tell the op to search or call his question premature, but you went straight into telling him there were no roms and that he should try the ipad. You're obviously jaded dude.
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LittleRedDot said:
Then i suggest that you take a break from these forums. Its obvious that you are burned out and bitter. It even would have been better if you were to tell the op to search or call his question premature, but you went straight into telling him there were no roms and that he should try the ipad. You're obviously jaded dude.
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All the OP had to do was click on the Android Development Section instead of Q & A. There are 100's of ROMs including one that I make. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue about this when you are wrong.
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All the OP had to do was click on the Android Development Section instead of Q & A. There are 100's of ROMs including one that I make. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue about this when you are wrong.
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Then you as a dev should understand what the Q&A forum is for? Questions and answers? Dude, come on.
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Raiderman said:
Then you as a dev should understand what the Q&A forum is for? Questions and answers? Dude, come on.
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Real questions, not an I'm way to lazy to search for anything questions.
Raiderman said:
Then you as a dev should understand what the Q&A forum is for? Questions and answers? Dude, come on.
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Does this phone have a stylus?
How about a touchscreen?
Which ROM is the absolute best!?
Come on man get real. Let this retarded thread die.
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All the OP had to do was click on the Android Development Section instead of Q & A. There are 100's of ROMs including one that I make. I'm not sure why you're trying to argue about this when you are wrong.
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Dude, it was obviously tongue-in-cheek. No need to get bent out of shape.
EDIT: that was meant for the other poster not MSFL.
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I'll donate 50$ to the first person to release a bootable AOSP/CM ROM
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I would like to think that works, but I hardly see the value of conditional contributions for work on this scale. I'm not one to think that only one means can accomplish an end, but to me that's an awfully small amount of money when assayed against the work involved.
I've seen AOSP builds done where the dev accepts no donations whatsoever. They do it for the sake of doing. I've seen it done where the dev accepts donations, but I'm unclear as to whether a bounty was the impetus.
I believe that time is the primary driver here. In time, an AOSP dev will take on this phone as a personal hell. Then you shall have your AOSP rom, and I'd suggest tossing the fifty at the man doing the unbelievable amount of labor involved. Perhaps offer to test, as well.
As noted, I hope I'm wrong.
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I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of roms out there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here. Maybe it's just me though...
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I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here.
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It's an outstanding group. We have some of the best devs on xda. It's a new phone, and I am proud of what has been accomplished. If the development work is at an unsatisfying level for you, then move on, please, and I wish you well. I hope you find that for which you seek.
Or stay and support the excellent work that's being done. Either is an excellent option. Give this group time. You haven't seen anything yet.
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It's an outstanding group. We have some of the best devs on xda. It's a new phone, and I am proud of what has been accomplished. If the development work is at an unsatisfying level for you, then move on, please, and I wish you well. I hope you find that for which you seek.
Or stay and support the excellent work that's being done. Either is an excellent option. Give this group time. You haven't seen anything yet.
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@micmars I would have to absolutely agree. Every Dev we have here on the note 3 is outstanding and always very helpful. They go absolutely above and beyond for what they get in return. I couldn't be happier with them or there ROM'S. I'll take quality over quality any day.
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I'm not knocking what you all are doing and I like this phone so far, I'm just saying that coming from a phone that had countless roms to one where It's not worth rooting yet is disappointing. And yes, I understand it's a new phone and it takes time. But I do appreciate what the devs do, it was not my intention to bust on anyone...
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I'm not knocking what you all are doing and I like this phone so far, I'm just saying that coming from a phone that had countless roms to one where It's not worth rooting yet is disappointing. And yes, I understand it's a new phone and it takes time. But I do appreciate what the devs do, it was not my intention to bust on anyone...
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Didn't think you were. I was, however, putting my thoughts out there for you and for the devs that work their butts off. Whether you meant to give offense is of less concern to me than those whom might have received it as such.
I do think that the observation is harbored by many, but I think the situation is as good as one could hope. Consider that this is a CDMA device, on the 3rd largest network, and a niche phone. It explains a lot of what you've duly noted. I think, relatively speaking, the level of development is quite strong, and will get much better with the passing of the new year.
Ultimately, I'm glad you are enjoying the phone.
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I am very grateful to the DEVS here. Truthfully if I had a decent Linux machine I would do it myself
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I would like to think that works, but I hardly see the value of conditional contributiofantastically. on this scale. I'm not one to think that only one means can accomplish an end, but to me that's an awfully small amount of money when assayed against the work involved.
I've seen AOSP builds done where the dev accepts no donations whatsoever. They do it for the sake of doing. I've seen it done where the dev accepts donations, but I'm unclear as to whether a bounty was the impetus.
I believe that time is the primary driver here. In time, an AOSP dev will take on this phone as a personal hell. Then you shall have your AOSP rom, and I'd suggest tossing the fifty at the man doing the unbelievable amount of labor involved. Perhaps offer to test, as well.
As noted, I hope I'm wrong.
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"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.
To be honest, I could take or leave AOSP. On my Note 2, I would flash an AOSP ROM but would soon start to miss some of the TW features that were native to Samsung phones. Sure there were some third party apps that did some of the Spen functionality, but none were as good as what Samsung did. I actually like the Samsung camera as well.
For some, saying "Pure Android is the only way to go man..." is a little silly to me. Those people are starting to become the Apple people of the Android world.
For me, installing one of the amazing Roms already here so I can customize what I want on the phone, plus a stock looking launcher like Nova equals the best of both worlds: The cool functionality of Touchwiz with the clean look of stock Android.
...We're growing. Slowly but surely. Patience is key in development. Extra donations of encouragement is good but..sometimes even the best motivating incentives can have hurdles because of the intricacies the devs encounter... It's a time game and most importantly it's about doing it right! Or as close to stable as possible =). Soon enough we'll all be breaking off a pice of our kit kat bars.
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To be honest, I could take or leave AOSP. On my Note 2, I would flash an AOSP ROM but would soon start to miss some of the TW features that were native to Samsung phones. Sure there were some third party apps that did some of the Spen functionality, but none were as good as what Samsung did. I actually like the Samsung camera as well.
For some, saying "Pure Android is the only way to go man..." is a little silly to me. Those people are starting to become the Apple people of the Android world.
For me, installing one of the amazing Roms already here so I can customize what I want on the phone, plus a stock looking launcher like Nova equals the best of both worlds: The cool functionality of Touchwiz with the clean look of stock Android.
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Sorry but for me pure android is the only way to go sorry I am proud to be one of those people.. Not a fan of bloat I will always be a Mac/Linux guy. I love simplicity and function...not a monster truck show...all flash and no substance. For the record I am not complaining.I love my note and the custom Roms I have the chance to use because of the developers hard work.
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"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.
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You'll note that what I wrote was speculative. That stated, I'd rather have the word of the devs you mention stating that a $50 bounty was that which triggered their initial foray into building an AOSP rom for a specific device. If you can point me towards that, I'll find it pretty cool.
I'll stand by my initial post, which averred that, though plausible, seems only part of the picture.
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You'll note that what I wrote was speculative. That stated, I'd rather have the word of the devs you mention stating that a $50 bounty was that which triggered their initial foray into building an AOSP rom for a specific device. If you can point me towards that, I'll find it pretty cool.
I'll stand by my initial post, which averred that, though plausible, seems only part of the picture.
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No actually it was arranged I believe that the donations would be to buy them a device..never did I say a fifty dollar donarion would buy there services. Oh verbose one
Verbose, Yes...
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No actually it was arranged I believe that the donations would be to buy them a device..never did I say a fifty dollar donarion would buy there services. Oh verbose one
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Yes, but from the start I did say that I doubted $50 was sufficient. And yeah, I am verbose when I measure my words.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019062
Just for a reference..threads not about you micmars... Quit trying to make it so...nonone cares if your wrong or right nor if you measure your words etc..the thread is about aosp on the n3. Back to the discussion please
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Yes, but from the start I did say that I doubted $50 was sufficient. And yeah, I am verbose when I measure my words.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019062
Just for a reference..threads not about you micmars... Quit trying to make it so...nonone cares if your wrong or right nor if you measure your words etc..the thread is about aosp on the n3. Back to the discussion please
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Thanks for the link, man. Like I said, that's cool.
Ya got me, you devil. I'm a narcissist, and love being reduced to stereotypes. It's the shiz. See, I made it about me again with this post.
And no, the thread is about fifty bucks offered for getting someone to build an AOSP rom for the Sprint Note 3.
Here's the thread that's unfettered by bounties,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46799089
Developer of CyanogenMod is developing CM for our devices?
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tonyevo52 said:
I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of roms out there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here. Maybe it's just me though...
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Well, you're used to HTC phones and them having a ton of crap that needed to be fixed or modded in the first place. Welcome to Samsung.
wojo797 said:
"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.
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You're welcome
The problem is you guys are failing to understand a few things:
-This phone is HIGH end, costing 700+ dollars.
-A lot of folks got their upgrades on the S4, HTC One, or Nexus 4.
-There are a lot more players in the game this time around. LG,Nexus 5, Motorola, etc. Much more diverse and people have spread out over phones.
About AOSP; lazerus06 said it perfectly. To install AOSP on this phone without proper support for its features is pretty much gimping the phone. I suppose there will always be the set-in-their-ways diehard AOSP fans, but for this phone it is ridiculous and irrelevant.
As for dev-fanboyism--the issue is that you guys overlook devs if they aren't your "favorite dev" which is pretty bad for development in general. I get it. You found someone who's work you enjoy and you want them to follow you to your next phone, but seriously. There are good devs here and yeah, there may not be 20 different ROMs to flash, but that's better for the forum. You're used to your old phones having 63 different ROMs all taking the same mods from the same people with only slight variations (themes, and maybe a mod or two) in said ROM. That's retarded. Nobody wants a clone of someone elses work with a different theme. Understandably, this can look like a lack of development for this phone, but on the contrary, it helps weed out would-be clone devs and hopefully will retain a good choice between a few ROMs that are incredibly different from each other.
As for kernel devs, I got into building my first kernel not even a month ago and let me tell you, these people are nobody to praise. I would never accept some bounty or even take part in one to pull someone over to build a kernel for my phone. Ktoon may be a cool person IRL, but online the dude has a big head and is terrible at taking suggestions, and fixing problems. For example, when I had the Galaxy S III on Sprint and had no experience in kernel development, I relied on other people's kernels and let me tell you, his was the most unstable, problematic kernel I've ever come across. I have on a few occasions tried to reach out to him via PM to get some of the problems, namely Bluetooth audio fixed and his reply to me was
ktoonsez said:
freeza said:
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freeza said:
Audio sent through my bluetooth headphones sounds like it's coming from a record player (cracking and popping) but all other audio sounds fine. If you want to fix it and need a tester, hit me up.
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Im not seeing that, sounds like a governor not playing nice with your phone or too much UV?
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No UV at all, and using the OnDemand gov. No overclock
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Weird. These phones baffle me sometimes.
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Now to me that sounds like someone that doesn't care. If it were my kernel, I would not rest until an issue was fixed regardless if I had the problem on my phone or not.
Also, building kernels is not rocket science and with websites like GitHub around, you can kang someone's source, patches, mods, and features straight out of their repository without doing any real work yourself. It is actually quite easy to do if you don't plan on doing any original work. So, please don't fool yourself into thinking some of these kernel devs are people you need to throw money at to get to get decent development work. Because, the best developers aren't the ones who can be bought over to another phone.
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Thanks for the link, man. Like I said, that's cool.
Ya got me, you devil.about sobering else. I apologize I'm a narcissist, and love being reduced to stereotypes. It's the shiz. See, I made it about me again with this post.
And no, the thread is about fifty bucks offered for getting someone to build an AOSP rom for the Sprint Note 3.
Here's the thread that's unfettered by bounties,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46799089
Developer of CyanogenMod is developing CM for our devices?
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Your right I actually did allow myself to get distracted from the original post and try to make it into something else..I apologize
I'm still lost on what features I would lose with aosp? Touchwiz? I use nova anyway. S-pen? I rarely if ever use it..and all your losing is the hover function anyway. I hav owned the s3 ,n2 and s4 and always used aosp. With variants like rootbox and carbon I really don't see what I'm missing out on? Other than Samsung and sprint bloatware..I mean miniN3 is proof of how much junk is shoe horned onto our phones by the carriers and Samsung. I don't change prls? Although I don't think aosp is perfect it is nice having that option. I do prefer the stock camera and video player.I amsseriously not being a ahole here I am just asking.