So I went into AT&T today with a view to getting the M8.
The M8 was along side the S5 and I though it strange that the screen on the S5 was so much brighter than the M8.
I went into the M8 settings to set the brightness to maximum but found it was already set.
As I turned the phone slightly sideways it suddenly got brighter.
I wear polarized glasses and in their wisdom HTC have made the polarizing of the display such that it is very dim when held in portrait mode.
This is not the case with my vivid or any other HTC phone I have owned.
Damn, I was so looking forward to getting the M8 but this of all things would be a deal breaker for me.
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So I went into AT&T today with a view to getting the M8.
The M8 was along side the S5 and I though it strange that the screen on the S5 was so much brighter than the M8.
I went into the M8 settings to set the brightness to maximum but found it was already set.
As I turned the phone slightly sideways it suddenly got brighter.
I wear polarized glasses and in their wisdom HTC have made the polarizing of the display such that it is very dim when held in portrait mode.
This is not the case with my vivid or any other HTC phone I have owned.
Damn, I was so looking forward to getting the M8 but this of all things would be a deal breaker for me.
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It's not that great out doors either
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Hah, wow very interesting they did indeed polarize the display. Just went and tested myself. Being in Seattle doesn't lend itself to wearing sunglasses often but sure enough rotating the phone to landscape changes the effect.
Oh and outdoor usage isn't bad Imo just take off automatic brightness and Max it out and you're good. Automatic brightness on every Android phone I have owned has been nothing short of garbage lol. So manual adjustment is the way to go. Sorry you decided against the M8 it's a hell of a phone (coming from someone who switched from the S4)
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Hah, wow very interesting they did indeed polarize the display. Just went and tested myself. Being in Seattle doesn't lend itself to wearing sunglasses often but sure enough rotating the phone to landscape changes the effect.
Oh and outdoor usage isn't bad Imo just take off automatic brightness and Max it out and you're good. Automatic brightness on every Android phone I have owned has been nothing short of garbage lol. So manual adjustment is the way to go. Sorry you decided against the M8 it's a hell of a phone (coming from someone who switched from the S4)
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Yes, it's a great pity. I have owned HTC devices for the last 7 or 8 years at least.
I have +2 magnifiers built into the bottom my sun glasses that I use everyday for driving and very often when I am out fly fishing.
I just happened to dash into the store this morning wearing them instead of my readers.
I would have been really unhappy if I only discovered this post purchase.
There might be two manufacturers for the screen? I've seen a few threads like this now.
I have no issues with any of my polarized sunglasses. Two are Maui Jim and one pair of Raybans.
I used my M8 today in the bright sun. I had no trouble seeing the screen at all. I don't wear glasses and have perfect vision though . It's much better than the AMOLED was on my Note 2.
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There might be two manufacturers for the screen? I've seen a few threads like this now.
I have no issues with any of my polarized sunglasses. Two are Maui Jim and one pair of Raybans.
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Interesting. I think the other threads have been to do with color saturation/contrast issue variance between batches of M8's.
I think what we are dealing with here is not the display itself but the protective glass over it or a laminate which may have been applied to it.
My Vivid does not suffer from this problem at all. It would be interesting to get HTC's comment on this.
Try different sunglasses. 3 different types of polarization mostly. Horizontal, vertical, and circular. Let's say the screen is horizontally polarized and the glasses are vertical, that would yield a very dim screen. Just try turning your glasses 90° and see if that works. Instead of blaming the phone, blame your glasses, or both
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Same prescription sun glasses work fine with all my other HTC's, Iphones, Samsung and others.
They don't work fine with the M8. What conclusion would you draw?
I was just in touch with HTC "technical" support to see if there could maybe be an issue with some screens and not with others.
I cut and paste my OP for them to read. This was their response:-
"The brightness on the phone by default is set to Auto-Brightness, which actually adjusts the brightness based on the lighting in the area at the time. Depending on where you are and how much light, the screen will be dimmer or brighter."
I had already explained that the brightness was set to max and not auto, and asked if he understood how polarizing works:-
"I'm sorry, but all I can say is that the screen is designed so that it can be viewed from nearly any angle. As such, the screen very thin against the body of the phone. Which could interfere with the polarization effect."
"I'm sorry? the M8 is available in different colors. But the screen is always the same"
Today I popped into and looked M8's at both Best Buy and AT&T.
Neither had the polarizing issue that has been reported by others here and elsewhere on the web.
I took more time to compare the M8 and S5 side by side. The S5 does appear to have more usable screen space and it also has a few other things going for it. However the cover over the charging port will drive me around the bend specially having to access it every day. It is not easy to open at all unless you have long nails. Wireless charging would not work for me as I will put the phone in a rugged protective case.
So, I guess it's the M8 for me and a continued loyal HTC owner!
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Today I popped into and looked M8's at both Best Buy and AT&T.
Neither had the polarizing issue that has been reported by others here and elsewhere on the web.
I took more time to compare the M8 and S5 side by side. The S5 does appear to have more usable screen space and it also has a few other things going for it. However the cover over the charging port will drive me around the bend specially having to access it every day. It is not easy to open at all unless you have long nails. Wireless charging would not work for me as I will put the phone in a rugged protective case.
So, I guess it's the M8 for me and a continued loyal HTC owner!
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My phone doesn't polarize either, with out without sun glasses, if that is what the OP meant. It might have been an issue with the in store unit? Wouldn't be the first time I've seen issues with in store phones.
Just got 2 M8s from T-mobile last week. Mine has the polarizing issue and my wifes does not.
As far as the color issue in other threads they both seem to be on the cooler side as they look identical without polarizing sunglasses on.
My guess is they have two versions of screen filters, one vertical and maybe one circular. I think most phones are circular these days since they do not affect sunglasses which I believe are mostly if now all linear polarized. I have a circular polarizer for my camera lens i will play with tonight to see what I can come up with.
Probably going to try and exchange this phone in store to get one that I can see while I have glasses on. It makes navigation useless with this issue.
I used my M8in the bright sun. I had no trouble seeing the screen at all
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So I went into AT&T today with a view to getting the M8.
The M8 was along side the S5 and I though it strange that the screen on the S5 was so much brighter than the M8.
I went into the M8 settings to set the brightness to maximum but found it was already set.
As I turned the phone slightly sideways it suddenly got brighter.
I wear polarized glasses and in their wisdom HTC have made the polarizing of the display such that it is very dim when held in portrait mode.
This is not the case with my vivid or any other HTC phone I have owned.
Damn, I was so looking forward to getting the M8 but this of all things would be a deal breaker for me.
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M7 was the same way.
Solution: Don't hold your phone in landscape when wearing your polarized sunglasses. Easy enough fix for me.
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Same prescription sun glasses work fine with all my other HTC's, Iphones, Samsung and others.
They don't work fine with the M8. What conclusion would you draw?
I was just in touch with HTC "technical" support to see if there could maybe be an issue with some screens and not with others.
I cut and paste my OP for them to read. This was their response:-
"I'm sorry? the M8 is available in different colors. But the screen is always the same"
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I wouldn't be so sure, check this out :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0osrpESuFkQ
Slap any descent screen protector on it ( not sure about the glass ones, but the normal ones from SPIGEN I know work ) and it will correct it. Had the same issue when I mounted my N7 in my car in landscape mode, could not see it when i had my glasses on. Slap on the screen protector and it was clear as day.
Just tested my M8 by laying a second protector still in the package for an S4 over it, and tada.. i can see it again with glasses
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Slap any descent screen protector on it ( not sure about the glass ones, but the normal ones from SPIGEN I know work ) and it will correct it. Had the same issue when I mounted my N7 in my car in landscape mode, could not see it when i had my glasses on. Slap on the screen protector and it was clear as day.
Just tested my M8 by laying a second protector still in the package for an S4 over it, and tada.. i can see it again with glasses
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Can you specify which spiegen protector you're referring to, there are several on amazon and this issue is driving me nuts.
Try these. I had an extra s4 one, it was in the blue package. I would imagine any descent one would work though. For those not seeing the issue, make sure your glasses are polarized. If you don't see it, turn the phone 90 degrees and it will show. Happens to Any device. All glasses, that are polarized, are polarized horizontally to avoid reflection glare. IPads all do the same etc etc etc.... Google polarization and how it works for why.... I'll let the experts describe it
http://www.spigen.com/brands/htc/all-new-htc-one-m8-screen-protector-steinheil.html
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For those not seeing the issue, make sure your glasses are polarized. If you don't see it, turn the phone 90 degrees and it will show. Happens to Any device.
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Only LCD devices. Far as I know, AMOLED devices do not display any change due to polarized glasses. Polarizing filters are used in LCD screens, its a requirement of how they fundamentally work. AMOLED screens don't require/use such filters.
Thanks to rkennison I can confirm the following protector will solve the issue: Spigen® HTC One M8 Screen Protector Clear Steinheil [Ultra Crystal]... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IF5B18M/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_ihbBtb10WGCSZ
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Hello, I just got a Thunderbolt through my work and I noticed the screen tends to wash out at angles. I had this same problem with my T-Mobile HTC Glacier or MT4G. It turned out to be 2 different vendors Sharp and Sony displays being used in this model. Once I got the good display it was a noticeable difference in the quality of the better display vs the bad one. Direct viewing from straight on is ok just as it was on the HTC Glacier. So I just wonder if anyone might have a good one and could post some pics to show.
Here is my original thread for the HTC Glacier with the Screen issues. There are some pictures and videos to compare the differences. I'm seeing some washing out at angles, especially around the clock digits where this problem is easily seen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
Here are some pictures of mine with the Sharp screen. The noticeable areas are the clock widget black areas where they flip.
I'd say it's possible. I'm sure they have more than one place that manufactures the devices. There's been some variability in the build quality of the devices, so it's not too far fetched.
I don't have a camera other than my phone to take pictures, though. It looks like a really good display to me and doesn't "wash out"
You're right there are two displays. I went to the store last week to compare my phone with the display. Because I used to have the mytouch 4g and it took three tries to get one with a nice display. So I was surprise, when I saw the display model and colors were not as vibrant as mine. Man did I get Lucky, first try and it's a winner.
This is interesting. I ran a "dmesg |grep panel" and it returned sharp. I wonder if anyone would get Sony.
Mine is noticeably worse than my MT4G that had the good screen.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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If you ask me, there is no doubt that there are two panels for this device. My first TBolt (which had several problems) had a really bad screen and I complained about it in another thread like this one. I had it exchanged and the new one is VERY much better. The first one was not crisp, colors were bad, looked blown out next to my DInc OLED. The replacement is crisp and the colors are beautiful.
I didn't get a chance to compare side-by-side, but everyone who had seen my first one, even my wife who is pretty oblivious about these things, would say that the new one is dramatically better.
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Thanks, could some of you with good screens do a dmesg in terminal and report if you have a sharp or Sony panel. Make sure you restart then immediately run the terminal and dmesg command. Mine is a sharp so I'm thinking it is the bad display. Also if you can post some pictures of the screen from the side at extreme angles.
I will try to take some pictures of mine and post them tomorrow.
Before some of you start stating your opinions about looking at the screen at angles, yes there are situations where you are viewing at angles. Also it has been proven at least in the MT4G with the bad sharp display that the colors are not as vivid as with the sony screen even when looking straight on.
Mine is made in Taiwan. If you have a good one post where it was made please.
Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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Mine returned Sharp.. and the screen is much better than my OG droid and my wife's fasicnate. I can read this post at ~160ish degrees, sooo.. no idea
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Reading this board may not be enough to tell. I will be interested to see if anyone has a Sony screen to compare.
The point is, everything I do on this phone can be done at that angle, in relation to using the screen. Colors do not change, only the brightness, as to be expected from a gloss screen (and gloss screen protector).
I personally think that shows a quality screen.
Definitely not something to worry about.
FYI : I have my dpi set to 200 if that matters
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Here are some more pictures which stand out more with green colors. You can really tell the difference as you tilt to angles and the deep green contrast is lost and it is hard to define the icons. The middle picture is taken from straight on and you can see the difference. I think on the Good Sony displays there will be no difference when looking from angles. I really suspect that the same display problems are following from HTC and the MT4G.
Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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Is there any way to tell my looking at the hardware number what screen we have?
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
i have a sharp panel as well. i'm no connoisseur apparently because i think my screen looks just as good as my old incredible.
I have one made in taiwan and it is essentially flawless, only thing wrong with it is 2 very tiny dots of light leak which can only be seen in pitch black
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No I doubt it, we could never tell with the MT4G. The only one thing that seemed to hold true in the beginning was the ones made in China had a higher percentage of the good screens and more of the ones made in Taiwan had the more of the bad ones.
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Odd, mine is made in Taiwan, are all bolts produced there now?
dmesg says sharp panel, but I have no complaints about viewing angle or contrast after quite a bit of fiddling with it and trying to find something to whine about.
I have a sharp panel and it's better than the display model at my local store. I used to own a mytouch 4g, it took three tries to get a good display. And the good display was made in china. My TB is made in Taiwan.
This would explain why some claim to have gorilla glass style display that can't be scratched and others are getting scratches from car keys.
My first phone the digitizer went out after a drop out of the car (no glass broken or cosmetic issues just said touch panel- fail) and the second phone has light leakage not just at the bottom but at the corners too. There is a gap at the right corner for whatever to get into my phone.
I want to know if there is a different 'nicer' panel. It seems quite a few people are popping up with broken digitizers...
The phone I have is a Sharp lq043y1dx04
How do I know? Because I busted mine open to try and fix my broken digitizer. You can see pics and read the story in my post "Anyone want to see the inside of a thunderbolt?"
Still no replacements out there :-(
Digitizer or LCD
I have not taken this phone apart. But I did replace the digitizer on the HTC INC. The Digitizer is separate from the LCD in that phone. Does anyone know if the Digitizer is separate in the Thunderbolt? If so, it does not matter who the manufacturer of the LCD is.
I to agree with this thread that the digitizer on the Thunderrbolt is very easily scratched especially compared to the HTC INC.
It seems that there is a lot of variance between the display quality between different SGS2 units. I myself was perfectly happy with mine until the screen had to be replaced by the Samsung warranty service. The new display wasn't half as bright as the one before and the light sensor coupled with a dim display makes it even worse. I've done some comparison between different units and found that almost all of them had different quality displays - many way too dark.
I made a photo comparison between our own to SGS2s using an original device (bought in early July) as a reference as its display performance is similar to the one I used to have in mine before the replacement.
I would be happy to hear if you have noticed similar differences with you own or your friends units just to get sense of how common the issue is.
The full story below!
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I’ve been a pretty happy owner of a Samsung Galaxy SII since April. I’ve especially been pleased with the excellent display that is able to deliver true blacks while being one of the brightest screens out there.
Imagine my horror then when the display broke. It looked like something was leaking inside it. It started as a minor pink hue in the edge of the screen and in a couple days had turned into a bruise covering one fourth of the screen. All the pixels seemed to work but there was a shadow with distinct edges clouding the picture.
The issue
Luckily the warranty covered this and the service point returned my phone with a note: “Display module replaced“. Little did I know that not all Super Amoled+ screens are created equal. After a minute of using the serviced device I noticed that the screen was somehow dark – noticeably darker than before. I checked all the settings – everything was set up the way it had been before with the auto-brightness set on. It just wasn’t the screen I had come to know. We have two units of the SGS2 at home and so I compared the serviced one with the other original unit. The display in the original (reference) unit was noticeably brighter than mine. The difference was even more apparent in the dark shades – where the reference display separated several different shades of dark grays mine only displayed black. The original screen on the reference device delivered the same quality as my ‘pre-serviced’ unit. Then I turned off the auto-brightness on both devices and cranked up the brightness to the max. Again the serviced unit was visibly dim compared to the reference unit. Even the color space between the devices are different – the original quite natural and a tad warm and the serviced one distinctly cool with whites tilted towards blue.
Next I borrowed a couple of other S2′s from colleagues at the office and it turned out their devices were just as dim as my serviced one – one even dimmer! I guess this explains why some reviewers and users have judged the display on the SGS2 to be too dark – something that I always thought to be a silly complaint. It seems that the display quality between devices varies greatly. I’m currently expecting a reply from my service point as to what I should do with my ‘faulty’ screen – I’ll let you know how this pans out.
I tried taking photos with the reference unit and the serviced unit side-by-side. If you think the differences are small and to complain is silly you should know that the real life effect is that taking photos and watching videos is now a pain because every shadow is just a solid black area and when you go into a dark room the auto-brightness drops the brightness way too low. So if you own a Samsung Galaxy s2 with a dark screen – you are one of the unlucky ones.
Below are the comparison shots. If you suspect you have one of the dark screens feel free to leave a comment below.
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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The forum won't let me add photos because I've just registered - only way to show them for now is to direct people to the site. Or about six posts from now I guess I will be allowed to post pictures as well.
I will add the whole text in a moment.
either way, it seems you joined specifically to talk about your site. Seems a bit trollish to me
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you joined this site specifically to link to your own one it seems?
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Happy now? Any comments on the real topic of this thread?
no not really
Yeah i'm also one of the unlucky ones with the dark screen. What makes it worse is the blue tinge when you tilt the screen slightly. Another problem, my screen keeps going bright for about 3 to 4 secs about every 45 seconds and then goes dull again. Nothing to do with auto brightness by the way because i turned it off.
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
I experienced the same situation. I had to replace the screen on the S2 bought back in may due to nasty scratches. The screen was otherwise really top notch with no visible defects.
The one they replaced with is much dimmer and actually has a higher contrast which leads to some color burn. There are also stripes from top to bottom when I pull down the top bar. And as if that was not enough, the picture is grainy. As you pointed out it feels as a totally different display.
I am not going to swap it since I managed to lower the contrast to an acceptable level but it's quite disappointing regardless.
This could be samsungs way of trying to slow down the screen burning?
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
If you come from HTC to Samsung, you're certainly going to notice the difference. At least in my case, the HTC had better whites on screen and no blue tinge when tilting screen.
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I frequently flash between the XW and XX series of ROMs and notice that on some roms, the screen is darker and on others it is brighter. This is when it is being tested at 100% brightness and display setting set to normal.
If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Same problem with the white sgs2 I bought few days ago. Really disappointing.
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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Would you still recommend the S2 with the screen as it is on yours, or has it spoilt a good phone?
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I would still recommend the phone, but you will have to use manual brightness instead.
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For those with the dim screen, if you are adventurous enough, you can follow the instructions here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235212&highlight=brightness to crank up the brightness of your phone so that you can use the auto brightness.
I have a new white sgs2 and this is the first Android phone I have had where the auto brightness on all roms Samsung or cm7 is totally useless. I use manual now and it looks good at around 1 3rd brightness so heavens knows how low the auto brightness is setting it!
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Yeah I've noticed the hue shift when tilting the display as well. Also on gray and white surfaces when the screen dims the color is not smooth but looks rather like there is some dirt under the glass. Like it's a whole different type of display than the one in our other SGS2.
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I have the same problem, dirt under glass. The strange thing is, I got a replacement, the same problem. When you lower the brightness, there is small dark area, like dust. Two devices the same shop, the same problem. I start wondering it is the production quality Samsung can get
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If i knew for sure that flashing my phone with the correct ROM would make my screen brighter, i would do it in a flash.
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I have talked about this several times and even sent private messages to developers but all ignored it.
Anyway, try flashing the official kernal of KE2 and you will see the difference.
The collors and screen brightness will change without any effect what so ever to the device performance.
Screen Adjuster is another way to correct this, it is a free program in the market which will do the job for you .
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I still haven't bought an S2 yet but this is a bit of a concern. I'd like to hear from more people with a newer phone, do they have the same screen issues as mentioned above.
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HTC is no better, I had a Sensation before and it had the same problems, They use two different screen types and many complains about it in the Sensation forum.
Unfortunately my OCD kicked in and I returned my first EVO LTE as it had peace of dust under the screen and slight light leakage at the bottom. Other than that my screen never had any flex or ripple issues and I am regretting that I took it in for an exchange!! My 1st exchange unit had a pixel that was stuck in the on position and had seriously bad LCD ripple effect. Took that back to a different Best Buy and the second exchange also has this same LCD ripple effect. It is most noticeable on black screens if you lightly press around the sides like you are scrolling up and down a web page. It can also be scene on the home screen. There are several videos of a One X having this issue. Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DmLNSiNT24
My question is, how many people have this issue? I am crossing my finger and hoping I can get a unit again that doesn't as I truely am pleased with the other aspects of this phone and can deal with the other small little hickups of a new product launch.
I have none of this.
my OG Evo had this after I replaced the digitizer. i assumed i did something wrong since the one before it did not. no issues on my lte
Limited sample of responses so far, but seems to be looking more positive than I expected it to be!
Maybe I have a better chance of my next replacement not having this issue than I thought! I hope it was just a bad batch for this area and the next shipment will be better!
Had same ripple issues
Hi..well I got my evo lte on a pre order. I ve had all the evos thru the last couple years and the LTE is a very good phone. I noticed the exact same thing,when I would gently push or tap on the screen it would have clothes of light that we're very bad,and on black screens that was even worse. I called sprint and they told me to go to a store to exchange it. I went to the store and the manager was awesome we sat down and he brought out 5 brand new EVO LTE s for us to try. At his amazement they all were as bad if not worse then mine on the ripple effect. I have a galaxy 2 touch and when we pushed on that screen no matter how hard it showed no signs of light bleeding or rippling at all. He didn't know what to tell me but did they say the screen on the htc should not do that at all and it might be a bad batch. To me it seemd the glass on the LCD screen didn't bond well with the glue they used,and when you pushed or tapped it would go down into the LCD screen. I know when you push directly on a LCD tv,computer screen it will give you the same similar effect. I called sprint and told them I was returning the phone and the lady in the return department told me she has had a few calls about people wanting to return the phone because of this issue. I really like the LTE,but couldn't put up with the screen issues. I am going to wait till the galaxy 3 comes out and also by then check out the EVO lte again to see if the problem has been fixed.
Sigh first off mine does this but I have to apply more force then is needed for the phone to register the touch. Second off WHY are you pushing with any kind of pressure to even do that? Now if you're just touching the LCD and it is doing this I understand. Also even in the vid it looks like more force is being applied as needed but not as much as I have to apply? That being said if you think sgsiii will be better well it will cause it doesn't use a LCD lolol.
Edit I think this is to have gorilla glass 2 which is thinner so chances of this happening are going to be common I'd assum of you push down on the screens lol.
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Sigh first off mine does this but I have to apply more force then is needed for the phone to register the touch. Second off WHY are you pushing with any kind of pressure to even do that? Now if you're just touching the LCD and it is doing this I understand. Also even in the vid it looks like more force is being applied as needed but not as much as I have to apply? That being said if you think sgsiii will be better well it will cause it doesn't use a LCD lolol.
Edit I think this is to have gorilla glass 2 which is thinner so chances of this happening are going to be common I'd assum of you push down on the screens lol.
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From my experience I am not applying any more pressure than I would use normally. That is the only reason I noticed it. I was typing in my numerical pass code on a black screen and saw the ripples. I then did further investigation. The video might not be the best reproduction of how you get the problem under normal use, but it does show what the problem looks like. My first phone I actually used more pressure on trying to figure out what the dust spot was and never had this issue occur so had no clue what I would run into with an exchange. This is a production issue on some LTE's and One X's. The below comment was posted in an article on the One X in April. I just think some phones are much more noticeable than others and who knows what this issue will turn into over the life of the phone.
Source: TechnoBuffalo
"Three separate models provided by HTC, and one by network Three, produced the issue, CNET UK said, meaning it may potentially be widespread. However, Daniel Hundt, creative director at One & Co., HTC’s design consultancy, said the company would never “let that ship.” Hundt added, “maybe this is not a shipping build,” referring to a unit CNET UK writer Natasha Lomas demonstrated the issue with.
TechnoBuffalo’s own Jon Rettinger and Todd Hasleton didn’t notice the issue when reviewing the One X, and chances are good the average user won’t either. The device really is one of the most beautiful phones out there. It also provided the best Android experience we’ve had yet, so this “screen flex flaw” issue shouldn’t deter folks from picking the device up. Still, we reached out to HTC for comment, and will update as soon as we hear back"
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/htc/htc-one-x-may-be-plagued-by-minor-screen-flex-flaw-issue/
This is not something that will push me to an S3 though!
Ok well then that's a diff story and I'm wondering if it due to the glue not curing by the time it got to you... Or a lack of glue. Since the glue has apparently been a problem this time around for HTC lol. And glad to know you won't defect to the sgsiii. The one thing I don't understand is why Samsung uses the gn as a beta for their sgs line. Same screen on gn and sgsiii but its to be slightly better.(only cause they used the gn as a test)
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Ok well then that's a diff story and I'm wondering if it due to the glue not curing by the time it got to you... Or a lack of glue. Since the glue has apparently been a problem this time around for HTC lol. And glad to know you won't defect to the sgsiii. The one thing I don't understand is why Samsung uses the gn as a beta for their sgs line. Same screen on gn and sgsiii but its to be slightly better.(only cause they used the gn as a test)
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Yep, glue on this current phone has the screen slowly getting white. Started out kind of yellow and now most of it is white with the bottom section still a little yellow. Going to give it till Friday to see if anything improves and if not I will test out the new shipment at Best Buy and try my hand at another exchange.
Update:
Went back to Best Buy and we opened up and looked at 5 different phones and EVERY single one of them had this issue. Some worse than others, but it was still apparent.
Not giving up though, trying a different store today to see how that works. I know my very first phone did NOT have this issue, just had a small speck of dust and slight light leakage..... I SOOO wish I had that phone back! Should have never returned it.
Update on my OCD - LCD Flex Issue:
5 Different Best Buys in two different states. Every phone I have tested had this issue to some extent (18 different phones tested). Some worse than others. I now believe my original phone had the issue, but was just less noticeable. Also, the screens normally do start out with more of a yellow tint from the glue. This mostly goes away after a few days of high brightness use, but sometimes a slight yellow band at the bottom remains. I think HTC doubled up the glue to help with the light leakage issues they are known for in the past.
Current phone has white balance closer to a pure white than a light yellow. (no yellow band at bottom either. This screen still has the flex issue but needs medium/medium heavy pressure to see on a black screen. I should never have to press that hard on anything to ever notice it. I am almost perfectly happy now, only bad thing is it does have one stuck pixel at the top of the screen (can't be seen on Pink, Red, Blue or Black, but is apparent on Yellow, Light Blue, Green, White and Gray). Would have never noticed it without the dead pixel test. I would rather have that than have it sensitive to the flex issue and any yellow tint to my white screen.
So, if you have not noticed the flex issue, then DO NOT look for it or try to reproduce it. You will most likely find it. Not a show stopper and should not be reproduced under normal use (Except for the few bad eggs that are really sensitive).
Tell me is the screen of G2 so inglourious as shown there http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458409 ?
Seems LG uses worst and cheapest glass it could possibly find so it produces such distortions in picture. Maybe we must tell them they should better buy displays directly from HTC? WDYT?
What do I think? I think you've been trolling the G2 forums for a long time. Let people make their own decisions. I haven't met a high demand my screen doesn't comply with, so I think the title of this thread is ridiculous as well. If you don't like the phone, buy one you do like, and stop posting nonsense please. Its hard enough to sift through the good information on XDA, people shouldn't have to weed out bogus info.
Probly you confuse me with somebody else. 'Cause it's my advices considered useful not somebody's else
I just edited my post because it was harsh. You asked a question and it deserves an answer. I will leave that part of my response.
I just came from a DNA that has one of the best screens ever made and this screen is is marvelous even in comparison from every angle even extreme ones.
I don't know how anyone can complain about the viewing angles on the G2. Coming from just about every major smartphone of 2012/2013 I can say I didn't notice it. Do people really use their phones at extreme angles?
On a TV or Monitor, I get it, you may have it up higher or lower or whatever, but it is a PHONE. You generally have it in front of you...
Just food for thought. Personally I am very happy with the display on the G2.
If you want great viewing angles go get something with a super amoled screen. No one is forcing you to keep your phone. Or maybe your phone is defective. I have 0 issues with my screen.
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personally this is the best screen ive used. some people are just so nitpicky. they should work in Quality Control so we dont get dings scratches that ive seen on my new macbook airs, iphone 5's.
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Tell me is the screen of G2 so inglourious as shown there http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2458409 ?
Seems LG uses worst and cheapest glass it could possibly find so it produces such distortions in picture. Maybe we must tell them they should better buy displays directly from HTC? WDYT?
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I'm thinking you must not have seen this display in person. First off, this display is by far the best I've ever seen on any phone. The S4's display didn't really look as brilliant to me as this one does despite the contrast ratio of AMOLED. I love this screen and it's disappointing for people to troll this forum posting bad things about the IPS+ display. It's absolutely beautiful. I, also, wonder why you need extreme viewing angles for a smartphone screen. Corning Gorilla Glass 3 is not even close to the worst or cheapest glass anyone could find.
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I just edited my post because it was harsh. You asked a question and it deserves an answer. I will leave that part of my response.
I just came from a DNA that has one of the best screens ever made and this screen is is marvelous even in comparison from every angle even extreme ones.
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eh, this screen iis good, but it's not as good as the DNA. hands down, DNA is better. better viewing angles, and doesn't have that weird rainbowish effect when looking at grays and whatnot..apparently there's a layer in there that HTC bought the rights to that LG i guess didn't...the G2 screen reminds me of my Rezound, which had that same weird effect to it.
dna screen kills all, hands down.
IMHO the G2 has a fantastic display. The viewing angles are fine for what they would be used for... maybe looking at your phone on a table without picking it up. other than that, 99.9% of viewing on a smartphone is done straight on.
Yeah, the viewing angle thing I get, but in real world use it is a non-issue. I came from an S3 and that screen is cosmetically beautiful, but incredibly inaccurate and way too contrasty for my tastes. It's like putting a TV in "demo mode", but all the time. Not to rag on it, I really enjoyed the S3, but if you want the best, most accurate display around, I cannot imagine anybody besting the G2 for a while...
I am loving the screen. The preloaded videos really showcase it.
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eh, this screen iis good, but it's not as good as the DNA. hands down, DNA is better. better viewing angles, and doesn't have that weird rainbowish effect when looking at grays and whatnot..apparently there's a layer in there that HTC bought the rights to that LG i guess didn't...the G2 screen reminds me of my Rezound, which had that same weird effect to it.
dna screen kills all, hands down.
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I have no rainbow our any other screen anomaly.
For full disclosure my DNA had a very light blue spot about 6mm.
The LG screen is "tricky". You don't appreciate it until you look at a high definition video. Even the ones recorded on the DNA look better.
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Same here, came from the DNA, still have it so side by side is easy comparison, and while the DNA screen is beautiful by anyone's standards, the G2 has the most gorgeous screen of any phone I've ever seen.
Android Authority's Review...
Listen to what they say about the screen & viewing angles compared to the GS4
Here's GSM Arena's review as well. Pay attention to what the reviewer says about screen quality & viewing angles
There you have it. 2 different respected reviewers saying the same thing & comparing the G2's screen to competitor phones lol
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Out of all the phones I've owned, this display is great. No issues here, unless of course, you're under direct sunlight.
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As someone mentioned the 2 videos they include on the phone are really nice to watch and show what the phone can do in that respect. I also like the ringtones and notifications from the Vienna Boys Choir lol. Also I live in Florida and this is the first phone where I could see the screen all through the day no matter where I was in or outside in the sun, I do have to take off my polarized shades in direct sunlight or the screen is too dark but that was the only time I couldn't see lol. Some folks complain about using the volume key shortcuts for the camera and quick memo and I say to them you can open them 2 or 3 other ways too. I haven't touched the power button since I got this phone, I just knock it on and off.
Viewing angles?
I'm looking at my phone with the most absurd viewing angles and there is only little change to what I can see. The colours are the same even looking from 160 degrees... I don't get your point here. LG is one of the best display makers out there imo...
I didn't realize how "muddy" my S4 was until I put it down on the desk next to my G2 and the DNA I have here. Someone here mentioned to me that the S4 whites were dirty or grey and sure enough it is, I just didn't notice it until I laid them side by side at the same brightness. I keep my brightness down around 40 to 50% most of the day and the G2 looks better there than the S4 or DNA to me. If I crank the brightness all the way up the S4 looks a lot better but that's not where I keep it set so it doesn't matter. I'll have a Razr Maxx HD here later and I'll compare it too just for curiosities sake. I'm very happy with the G2 screen now especially since I used that tiny nav bar mod.
As for viewing angle, I don't view my phone at an angle and I really don't want people next to me always seeing what I'm typing anyway. I don't WANT a wide angle.
If there are complaints to be had about the G2, believe me, the display ain't one of em. She's drop dead gorgeous.
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Just purchased the S9 + and the first thing i notice is the screen is a huge finger print magnet which to some might be expected. However, Iam coming from an Iphone X (which Samsung made the screen) and its far better at hiding your finger prints!
Seems strange that Samsung have arguably made a better all around display for the opposition then they did for their own flagship!
I don't notice the S9+ screen to be particularly bad in terms of fingerprints. The back, for sure, but not the screen. No worse than any other phone I've used.
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I don't notice the S9+ screen to be particularly bad in terms of fingerprints. The back, for sure, but not the screen. No worse than any other phone I've used.
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I guess its not that bad but when compared to my iphone x . The Iphone def comes out on top! Its just way superior at hiding fingerprints! I actually had no idea how good it was ay hiding them until i used the s9! I have also noticed that the Iphone display looks better under sun light / day time in general! The samsung screen is glossy and shows reflections more making the display just a tad more difficult to enjoy under sun light then the iphone!
Iam astonished that the s9 display is considered better then the iphones to be honest! Even video playback on the iphone x is better!
To each his own. I have no problem using the S9+ in bright sunlight, no issues with fingerprints and videos look great. You do know that Samsung makes the iPHone X screen, right? Same technology.
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To each his own. I have no problem using the S9+ in bright sunlight, no issues with fingerprints and videos look great. You do know that Samsung makes the iPHone X screen, right? Same technology.
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Yeah iam aware of that! Thats why iam slightly surprised! The S9 display is great! Its just that it has a more glossy finish compared to the iphone x so my own experience has been that the iphone x hides fingerprints a little better and performs a little better under sun light also!
I just looked really hard at my S9+ (which I've used all morning), and I can't see anything that looks like a fingerprint no matter what angle I look at it in the light. In fact I deliberately mashed my finger on the screen, and couldn't see a print left from that either. Maybe my fingers have dried out .
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I just looked really hard at my S9+ (which I've used all morning), and I can't see anything that looks like a fingerprint no matter what angle I look at it in the light. In fact I deliberately mashed my finger on the screen, and couldn't see a print left from that either. Maybe my fingers have dried out .
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Even under light? Thats nuts! I see lots on mine! Its no worse then most devices. I just personally found the iphone x to handle things a little better which surprised me as the display is made by samsung
Some people have reported the lack of the olephic (or however its spelled) coating being not there or coming off shortly after purchasing the s9/s9+. If you take it to a Samsung store or send it in, they reportedly replace the screen and affected people aren't having problems after that.
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Some people have reported the lack of the olephic (or however its spelled) coating being not there or coming off shortly after purchasing the s9/s9+. If you take it to a Samsung store or send it in, they reportedly replace the screen and affected people aren't having problems after that.
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Its not a huge issue! I dont think i would send it back and i would doubt there is anything wrong with the coating etc Its actually fine but im just pointing out that the iphone x is def better when it comes to finger prints! The s9 display is alot more glossy / shiny so it reflects everything and under light can make it a little more difficult to read text etc when compared to the iphone x but its a minor enough issue for me personally!
What a troll gtfo