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I'm moving the data off my stock 2GB card to a SANdisk 8GB Class 4 card to gain more media performance.
I understand FAT32 is better than FAT16 in this respect...
In fact the Hero formatted the card as FAT32 so assume it prefers it
Now, copying to the card, my Mac is copying very very slowly, far slower than the stock FAT16 card did.
Is this normal ?
Well done a bit of testing and the Album app is waaay slower on my class 4 8GB card formatted as FAT32.
Images in grid view and filmstrip view pop up more or less instantly on the stock 2GB FAT16 card.
On the FAT32, they appear as grey boxes before being filled in one by one with the actual image.
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I've cleared Album's cache and data to force a rebuild of thumbnails, that thats not the issue.
joemax said:
Well done a bit of testing and the Album app is waaay slower on my class 4 8GB card formatted as FAT32.
Images in grid view and filmstrip view pop up more or less instantly on the stock 2GB FAT16 card.
On the FAT32, they appear as grey boxes before being filled in one by one with the actual image.
Note.
I've cleared Album's cache and data to force a rebuild of thumbnails, that thats not the issue.
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ive noticed this aswell as i got me gf a hero at the same time as i got mine but only got a 8gb sandisk micro sd cardfor myself.
Her album photos with about 20 photos in is sweet as but when i scroll thorugh mine also with about 20 photo's in i have to wait for the grey boxes... when i got my 8gb card tho i didnt format nothing just plugged it straight in and started using it. everything else seems a little faster though compared to hers
My 8GB card was used in a Nokia N85 before so I had the Hero format it for me.
Assuming this would prepare it for use correctly...
Gone back to the stock 2GB card and all is zooming along nicely again.
Are you sure this isn't a caching issue guys? It may be slow to load on the first time while all the thumbnails are generated, but should be snappy afterwards. I would however be worried abou transfer speed between the SDHC Card and Mac as that should definitely be faster than a class 2.
When I changed from a class 2 to a class 6 I would say my read/write speeds doubled (or just over), I seem to get about 6-7MB/s when writing to it.
Have you tried writing to it when not in the phone? That will probably give a slightly better (or more realistic) reading.
Its not caching, I already tried clearing the applications (Album) cache and allowed it re-create its thumbnails in grid view and filmstrip view.
Opened each album and waited while it created them all.
Restarted the Hero and then went back to Album.
Still very slow compared to the 2GB card. No idea what class this is as it doesn't appear to say (writing on the backside is almost too small to read).
Writing to the card via my Mac starts fairly quickly, slows down to a real crawl and then a few minutes later speeds up again.
Worked fine in the N85 and recorded and played back video at a much higher bandwidth than the Hero can do.
FAT 16's limit is 2GB. so if you want to use a larger card then 32 is the way to go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
Thx for the info...
The problem I am seeing though is that the FAT32 formatted card appears to be far slower than the FAT16 card.
i forgot to add in my previous post that backing up the data to my pc was very fast on both cards, the only slow down i get is with the album app, exactly the same as joemax.
apart form that everything else is faster than my gf's 2gb card.
im gonna try backing up my data and formatting the card as i never tried that the first time
will report back with any findings.
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tried formatting but made no difference, is fine with just 8 photos on, but once you start going to 20+ you get the grey box syndrome, which only last for 2 seconds or so before they appear but ofcourse would be nice if it was ultra smooth. could be that our sandisk 8gb class 6 cards are fakes .. i got mine of amazon for £15. i wouldnt of thought so but you never know, as everything else on the phone is running sweet.
I formatted the 8GB card in the Hero and in the card reader plugged into my Mac...
No change is speed at all.
Album is definitely far slower on the 8GB class 4 SanDisk card.
I just bought a generic class 4, 8gb memory card and the lag was terrible took an age for anything to load, so i went and got a class 6, 8gb card and the speed is back up to what it was when it came with the 2gb card. I strongly suggest anyone not to buy anything but a class 6 card.
Thx. Will look out for one on my travels.
Anyone know what class card the Hero ships with ? Mine does not say, if it does the writing is far too small for my eyes to read.
Heya Joemax,
I think you're getting the same problems as quite a few others. It seems to be some kind of problem the Hero is having with certain cards.
The problem being that it does not create and store the thumbnails for the Album gallery. The folder is created but the files are not. We are currently trying to work out why this would be, but i'm sure it's some kind of SDHC incompatibility with current Hero ROMs.
How much space are most people using up with all their apps. Do you feel the 16gb is adequate, or are you wishing you had gotten the 32 gb.
Nope have several apps and large games installed and i still have 10+ gigs left....music, backups, roms and all other downloads on the ext sd card...simple
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For me I downloaded tons of apps./games/mp3/pics .... and still have 6 gb free . . . :good:
I have 10 gigs left and a 32GB sdcard. No need for 32 GB internal
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Not yet but I do have a 64GB sd card stop it still hold me over for a while. Only used 17 GB on it. Going to leave for 3 weeks for training so I'm putting about 5 season's for shows on my phone so I hope it holds me up. Then I'll wish I had a 32GB phone
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the price difference between the 16 & 32gb will buy a 64gb sd card, then you will have 80gb...so yea the 16gbwill have more than enough storage capacity for me.
With an sd its more than enough.
16 gb is fine for me, still have 9gb free and have a 32gb from my epic, definitely don't have any need for additional storage and I'm an audio/video podcast nut.
perfectly fine with 16gb. I just need to get an external one. I dont like to have tons of apps anyways. But the nandroid backups do take up alot of space
16 GB is more than adequate. get a 32 GB MicroSD and you will be getting the same Disc space as the high spec iPhone 4S.
16GB is fine for me same amount of space I had with my S2 that being said I do have a 64GB card installed.
I got the 16 GB one went an bought a 32 GB SDHC Class 10 SD card...so I'm good. I like the external storage for safety reasons....if you nuke your phone, you won't loose your pics and stuff, but beware, even SD cards go bad. I had one go and lost everything on it (lucky I backed it up a few weeks before) I use google plus to backup all my pics and box.com to backup my music and files.
Sorry for adding more to your question but I felt it was relevent.
Nope... Picked up a 64gb class 10 card for essentially the same price it it takes for the 32gb internal (much better deal).
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I have a bunch of large games installed and still have 6gig free. If I need I can always get a 64gig card so 16 is enough the extra 16 on board really doesn't make much of a difference.
Tenkie said:
Nope... Picked up a 64gb class 10 card for essentially the same price it it takes for the 32gb internal (much better deal).
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This. The 50 dollar difference gets you 16+64 vs just 32gb. Unless somehow you NEED that 96gb total instead of 80.
I am on AT&T so 16 had to be enough I bought a 64gig Class 10/UHS-1 sandisk mobile card, I can get my whole collection of music on there and some device backups and roms as well.
who knows what else we will be storing in the future? HD Video isn't small....
I probably would have done 16gb internal and 64gb card even if 32gb was available on AT&T.
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I'm gonna be ordering the 32 GB and then getting either a 32GB or 64 GB sd card (anyone have recommendations on a good 64 GB one? class 10 of course). The only reason I'm shelling out the extra $50 for internal 16GB is apps. On my 32GB Tab (which has no sdcard slot) I use about 27 GB of stuff, and I don't keep much music or anything on the Tab, it's almost all (24 of 27 I believe offhand) apps. My current phone's 16 GB sdcard is almost always full (sometimes I flash by the seat of my pants w/o a nandroid because it won't fit... ), and I try to avoid the apps2sd stuff whenever possible for performance reasons, so I'm gonna max out the internal, since that can't be upgraded later. Who knows what size games will be here in another 6 months to a year On the G1 even the 4MB ish of Robo Defense was a commitment with limited size, I just want to future-proof as much as possible.
50gb dropbox+16gb internal+external....u need 32gb internal?
thanks for the useful info, looks like most people are satisfied with the 16GB model
I'm "satisfied" with the 16gb model, but honestly only bought it because I was too impatient to wait for the 32gb to come out. $50 more for double the internal space is not a big deal...I'm just really really impatient.
In any case, the 32gb class 10 micro SD card I am using should be plenty for the next year until I get another new phone.
Amazon has a sale on memory cards today. I'm wondering if the Nook Tablet (rooted) will be able to read the 64 GB cards.
Call B&N and ask them.
It can, yes. I recently purchased this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V7WIA2/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00 and it works quite well. It was a little wonky at first, but after formatting it (in the NT) it became readable. Not sure if every 64 gig micro SD will work with the NT, this one definitely does. For me, anyhow.
Right from B&N FAQ
A microSDHC card with a storage capacity of up to 32 GB.
• Class 6 microSDHC cards are supported. Class 6 is faster than class 4, which is faster than class 2. The class should be mentioned on the packaging for the microSDHC card and printed on the card itself. If no speed is indicated, the card is a class 2 card. The speed of the card does not affect page display speeds. It can affect read and write speeds when transferring books, periodicals, and personal files to and from the SD card.
• The microSDHC card must be formatted with a FAT32 file system.
http://cp-barnesandnoble.kb.net/?se...nsearch=search#tab:homeTab:crumb:7:artId:1909
SlowCobra96 said:
Right from B&N FAQ
A microSDHC card with a storage capacity of up to 32 GB.
• Class 6 microSDHC cards are supported. Class 6 is faster than class 4, which is faster than class 2. The class should be mentioned on the packaging for the microSDHC card and printed on the card itself. If no speed is indicated, the card is a class 2 card. The speed of the card does not affect page display speeds. It can affect read and write speeds when transferring books, periodicals, and personal files to and from the SD card.
• The microSDHC card must be formatted with a FAT32 file system.
http://cp-barnesandnoble.kb.net/?se...nsearch=search#tab:homeTab:crumb:7:artId:1909
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This is a pretty standard description that most devices and manufacturers use. However, I've found that 64GB microSD work fine when formatted to FAT32.
I dont doubt that they will work, but it just isnt supported by B&N so if you get a card that doesnt work they are going to say too bad so sad if you call/online chat with them. haha
hey guys sorry if this question has been asked before but i know the g2mini sd card is expandable with 32 gigs of memory. I have seen some you tube videos of people getting phones to read cards with a greater capacity. My question is if i buy a 128 gig sd card will it work on my phone or will it only work partially on my phone? So will i be able to access all 128 gigs or will i only be able to access 32 gigs of it? for the record it would be a class 10 card.
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hey guys sorry if this question has been asked before but i know the g2mini sd card is expandable with 32 gigs of memory. I have seen some you tube videos of people getting phones to read cards with a greater capacity. My question is if i buy a 128 gig sd card will it work on my phone or will it only work partially on my phone? So will i be able to access all 128 gigs or will i only be able to access 32 gigs of it? for the record it would be a class 10 card.
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well, officially the phone supports only 32GB sd cards, which are originally formated in NTFS. any bigger card withth NTFS will not work at all. however, if you format a bigger card to FAT32 (older), you can use it just fine, with only a few drawbacks (i don't know the exact numbers but the file size is somehow restricted, i think to 4GB or so, and also the number of items in root folder is limited). i cannot guarantee that it works with any sd card, but my 64GB kingston micro sd xc class 10 runns without any issues, with all 64000MB usable.
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well, officially the phone supports only 32GB sd cards, which are originally formated in NTFS. any bigger card withth NTFS will not work at all. however, if you format a bigger card to FAT32 (older), you can use it just fine, with only a few drawbacks (i don't know the exact numbers but the file size is somehow restricted, i think to 4GB or so, and also the number of items in root folder is limited). i cannot guarantee that it works with any sd card, but my 64GB kingston micro sd xc class 10 runns without any issues, with all 64000MB usable.
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Samsung evo mini sd working too, I tested FAT32. No need more than 4gb in 1 file.
Hello.
I 've been reading a lot of (bad) stories with micro sd incompatibilities.
Since i want to use mine as internal storage, i want to be certain that it will work
I am between samsung (the new red pro ones,20mb/sec) and the new toshiba excesior ones (30mb/sec write, 2016 model).
Anyone had any luck with these?
Should they be ntfs formatted when inserted in the tablet?
Thanks in advance.
Hi vadergr,
i tested some different sd cards twoe 64 gb class 10 cards (samsung and lexar), they are verry slow for me. So i decided to buy a sandisk microSD extreme Pro with 64 gb but hab no luck with it, because the card was dead on arrival. So i went to my tech store and by a 128gb Sandisk Ultra, an now i'm fine with it. Fast reading speed (44mb/s) and solid write speed (23mb/s). All in all its ok and the tablet runs verry well with it. I run on Android 7 nougat and use the SD as internal storage.
128gb Sandisk Ultra
Greetings
ShrekDTH
I used Memento EXpert 128GB from memorette. I tested it out on PC, make a full read/ write to make sure it has got full capacity and then insert into the tablet. One interesting thing is the tablet recognized the card as Lexar Media (which is quite reputable). I formatted it as the internal storage.
So far, apart from heating up during game-plays, it is quite stable.
Samsung EVO Plus microSDXC - 256GB it's OK...
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Samsung EVO Plus microSDXC - 256GB it's OK...
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I had issues with mine set up as internal storage after i went past 128GB of data on it. went back to my Samsung 128GB Pro microSDXC and worked like a champ. the 256 works well as external storage. I did notice longer boot times with the more data i added to the micro sd card. i opted to stay away from internal storage for now.
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I had issues with mine set up as internal storage after i went past 128GB of data on it. went back to my Samsung 128GB Pro microSDXC and worked like a champ. the 256 works well as external storage. I did notice longer boot times with the more data i added to the micro sd card. i opted to stay away from internal storage for now.
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Sorry i speak a little English.
But i use my 256GO like internal storage with latest update original rom...and all are running normally:good: