Hi,
Search everywhere and still stuck!
This is issue that I have bee trying to solve on the 'android-rsap' forum, but am completely stuck, so by posting here I am hoping that someone can shed some light on what is going on.
Link: forum.android-rsap.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=871
In short, the device is a Samsung Galaxy 2 (XEU), and the bluetooth rsap functionality works fine with 4.0.4 (I9100XWLPT) but when I upgrade to 4.1.2 (I9100XWLSW) it no longer works at all. What is most weird is that it seems to be only my handset that is affected, it does not seem to be a universal issue. :roll eyes: What could be specific to my handset that stops this functionality working as it should?
I have been going back to 4.0.4 and upgraded to 4.1.2. many times now, via OTA, Kies and Odin, same result every time, sadly. 4.0.4 works every time, 4.1.2 has never worked with rsap and my car
What could be specific to my handset that stops this functionality working as it should? I have tried root'ing the handset to do more testing and to try the rsap app from Google App Store, but that has the same issue. Could some of the radio software be wrong? or?
Picture shows Kies upgrade screen and the 4.0.4 and 4.1.2 versions I am getting.
Any hints would be appreciated.
Regards,
J.
Try another JB ROM, and stop going back to 4.0.4.
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gastonw said:
Try another JB ROM, and stop going back to 4.0.4.
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Ok, so with an XEU handset - what version would you recommend?
realist42 said:
Ok, so with an XEU handset - what version would you recommend?
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Ok, So I am a beginner with hacking my Samsung phone, this is mainly as I use them as phones, and want to rely on them. Before I had encountered this issue I had not even rooted my phone before.
I would really appreciate some help with this, this is an issue what is well beyond me, as in my view, what I have done ought to have fixed it. If there was a firmware issue, my reload should have but it back to 'factory default' .
As for going back to 4.0.4, well it works, so it must be a baseline for something, it proves the radio and bluetooth stack is capable of doing the right thing.
I think I need some pointer of getting my had set back to completely stock PDA / CSC / PIT, but don't know how to do it, or where to get the parts, to date got the firmwares from SamMobile... Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
J.
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realist42 said:
Ok, So I am a beginner with hacking my Samsung phone, this is mainly as I use them as phones, and want to rely on them. Before I had encountered this issue I had not even rooted my phone before.
I would really appreciate some help with this, this is an issue what is well beyond me, as in my view, what I have done ought to have fixed it. If there was a firmware issue, my reload should have but it back to 'factory default' .
As for going back to 4.0.4, well it works, so it must be a baseline for something, it proves the radio and bluetooth stack is capable of doing the right thing.
I think I need some pointer of getting my had set back to completely stock PDA / CSC / PIT, but don't know how to do it, or where to get the parts, to date got the firmwares from SamMobile... Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
J.
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The firmware specified by Kies (the one in the picture you posted) is your region specific firmware, just search and download the firmware from sammobile and flash it if you want to go back to stock, gastonw was suggesting you to try a different version of jb like xwlss, xwlsn, xwlsw, etc... If it's common to other jb versions then probably Samsung removed proper support for it, it's not the first time they have done it, like for example they completely removed action shot feature in stock camera in jb(this is there in ics).
Edit:If this problem is specific only for your s2, you might have to try flashing different firmware.
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king_below_my_lord said:
The firmware specified by Kies (the one in the picture you posted) is your region specific firmware, just search and download the firmware from sammobile and flash it if you want to go back to stock, gastonw was suggesting you to try a different version of jb like xwlss, xwlsn, xwlsw, etc... If it's common to other jb versions then probably Samsung removed proper support for it, it's not the first time they have done it, like for example they completely removed action shot feature in stock camera in jb(this is there in ics).
Edit:If this problem is specific only for your s2, you might have to try flashing different firmware.
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Thanks,
I have tried a completely different firmware, and it behaved just the same. The odd thing is that there are no other reports of users having issues with the rsap application on a S2 with JB, so the support is on there (the app provides the stack if it is missing), but the app does not work either so it looks like it is my handset that has issues. I just can't figure out what to do to fix it. There is one thing that could be at play here, I did have a flailed upgrade from GB to ICS (4.0.3) where vibrate stopped working. It was sent to Samsung for repair, not sure what they did but I suspect that the just flashed the phone with a new version of the same firmware. Could there be something there that still causes issues?
Thanks.
J.
realist42 said:
Thanks,
I have tried a completely different firmware, and it behaved just the same. The odd thing is that there are no other reports of users having issues with the rsap application on a S2 with JB, so the support is on there (the app provides the stack if it is missing), but the app does not work either so it looks like it is my handset that has issues. I just can't figure out what to do to fix it. There is one thing that could be at play here, I did have a flailed upgrade from GB to ICS (4.0.3) where vibrate stopped working. It was sent to Samsung for repair, not sure what they did but I suspect that the just flashed the phone with a new version of the same firmware. Could there be something there that still causes issues?
Thanks.
J.
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Hmm try generating a logcat when you try to use that feature and post it here, let's see whether some useful report is generated , please generate it as quickly as you can after you try activating/using that feature.
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king_below_my_lord said:
Hmm try generating a logcat when you try to use that feature and post it here, let's see whether some useful report is generated , please generate it as quickly as you can after you try activating/using that feature.
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HI,
Took a little time to get the phone back in order and then to go an do the trace.
Not knowing what I am really looking for, but it strikes me that the bluetooth stack looks to just be giving up...
Regards,
J.
Hi all,
Well, today I managers to briefly borrow another S2 handset with JB on it. This other handset has the same issues that I have, so this must be something in the packaging of the Bluetooth that Samsung did - but I am guessing here.
Any clues would be appreciated, although I think I am fighting a loosing battle here... (works with an S3, so I should go and upgrade! at least chapter now that there is the S4 - but I like the form factor of the S2 better)
Regards,
J
I can't find anything that can cause a reasonable problem in your logcat, since you tried it out with an other GT-I9100 running JB and reproduced the problem, my guess is as good as yours.
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I can't find anything that can cause a reasonable problem in your logcat, since you tried it out with an other GT-I9100 running JB and reproduced the problem, my guess is as good as yours.
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Well, thanks for looking anyway...
My thinking on this is now that as it works with newer cars and only the older ones that now have issues, it must be a version issue, i.e. the version of the bluetooth stack is not the one it should be. It would be interesting to know if there is a difference in the version of the bluetooth stack and the rsap daemon between the S3 (which works on JB) and the S2 (which does not). Would that tell me anything interesting?
Regards,
J.
Your issue is directly related to 4.1.2 (and newer) versions of Android having changes to what's known as a2dp, or Advanced Audio Distribution Profile. Supposedly, these failings with Bluetooth connectivity of our blessed i9100 are fixed in Android 4.2.2, but unfortunately this version has not yet been released for it (and before anyone says otherwise, I dare them to show me where I can get the ridgey didge true blue real deal Jellybean 4.2.2 for the i9100, especially when sammobiles - the number one place for Samsung firmwares - don't have it for any country on the planet)
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Your issue is directly related to 4.1.2 (and newer) versions of Android having changes to what's known as a2dp, or Advanced Audio Distribution Profile. Supposedly, these failings with Bluetooth connectivity of our blessed i9100 are fixed in Android 4.2.2, but unfortunately this version has not yet been released for it (and before anyone says otherwise, I dare them to show me where I can get the ridgey didge true blue real deal Jellybean 4.2.2 for the i9100, especially when sammobiles - the number one place for Samsung firmwares - don't have it for any country on the planet)
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HI,
I was not aware of this, and are you saying this is specific to the S2, so the fact that is works with an S3 on 4.1.2 is irrelevant?
J.
well, I've been researching this since 4.1.2 came out, and it isn't an issue only experienced here in Australia. Google is a great resource, go for a surf and you'll find out more...
djshotty said:
well, I've been researching this since 4.1.2 came out, and it isn't an issue only experienced here in Australia. Google is a great resource, go for a surf and you'll find out more...
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Well, my issues are with specifically with rsap, not really A2DP, but if it affects the whole stack, this could be an issue.
To illustrate: I have 2 cars, one older, one newer. With the newer car all is well, and it works at is should (as far as I know) The older car was working pretty much with out issues on 4.0.4, but refuses to work with 4.1.2. Both cars rely on rsap.
Not sure this helps, just wanted to illustrate the problem that I am trying to solve.
Regards,
J.
Have a look at what people are talking about in a Google discussion group, about this very issue...
Code:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41628
djshotty said:
Have a look at what people are talking about in a Google discussion group, about this very issue...
Code:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41628
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Maybe I am overly cautious here, but in my case it works just as it should with an S3, no issues at all, for me it is the S2 with JB that has the issue. And the functionality that does not work does not go near the A2DP libraries as the phone becomes a bluetooth SIM card for the car to access (which is rsap)
There must be others out there that also have this issue?!?
realist42 said:
Maybe I am overly cautious here, but in my case it works just as it should with an S3, no issues at all, for me it is the S2 with JB that has the issue. And the functionality that does not work does not go near the A2DP libraries as the phone becomes a bluetooth SIM card for the car to access (which is rsap)
There must be others out there that also have this issue?!?
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That's why I suggested you look at the forum I provided the link for, there are plenty with the 'Phone calls via Bluetooth into car stereo' issue, including myself...
I have rooted my Sprint Note 3 a few times now without tripping KNOX. I am currently rooted and thinking about un-rooting and going back to stock via update of KitKat 4.4.2.
I have un-rooted without tripping KNOX either.
My main reason I want to do this is because I got a new car stereo that has Bluetooth audio and voice. Everything works perfectly and connects excepts that sometimes while listening to music something cuts out for like a split second. The phone is right next to the car stereo.
The car stereo unit is the Jensen VX4010
Sprint Note 3
I do not think the Jensen VX4010 has a bios update or will ever.
The only think I can think of is that the Bluetooth software on 4.3 is a little dated.
If I update to the latest Android software I am thinking this might fix the issue. I think the latest android update has Bluetooth AVRCP and 4.3 does not. I could be wrong.
Options:
1. Do you think this is a possible problem?
2. Has Google fixed all the problems with KitKat or is it still a nightmare? Like Battery Drain issues?
3. Should I just wait and deal with this Bluetooth issue?
4. Is there a way to just update to the latest Bluetooth technology and just stick with 4.3?
Thank you for reading and I look forward to your comments.
Ill be pretty straight forward here..
Jensen is known for budget low cost ( low feature) equipment in the car audio world. Its not total junk and its gotten alot better in recent years compared to how they were before Audiovox bought them out, but you get what you pay for. That head unit retails for around $240 compared to other brands that start at $350-400. You sacrifice features and build quality. ( its like comparing your Galaxy Note 3 to a galaxy S2 Mini)
The clipping you are getting I will put money on is your deck.
I don't think updating your phone will improve it, I would test another device and see if you can duplicate the cutting out.. And also try connecting to a different bluetooth device on your Note 3 and see if you experience it.. then you can rule out if its the deck or the phone.
My money is on the deck though as the problem.
Astrongtower said:
I have rooted my Sprint Note 3 a few times now without tripping KNOX. I am currently rooted and thinking about un-rooting and going back to stock via update of KitKat 4.4.2.
I have un-rooted without tripping KNOX either.
My main reason I want to do this is because I got a new car stereo that has Bluetooth audio and voice. Everything works perfectly and connects excepts that sometimes while listening to music something cuts out for like a split second. The phone is right next to the car stereo.
The car stereo unit is the Jensen VX4010
Sprint Note 3
I do not think the Jensen VX4010 has a bios update or will ever.
The only think I can think of is that the Bluetooth software on 4.3 is a little dated.
If I update to the latest Android software I am thinking this might fix the issue. I think the latest android update has Bluetooth AVRCP and 4.3 does not. I could be wrong.
Options:
1.Do you think this is a possible problem?
2.Has Google fixed all the problems with KitKat or is it still a nightmare? Like Battery Drain issues?
3.Should I just wait and deal with this Bluetooth issue?
4.Is there a way to just update to the latest Bluetooth technology and just stick with 4.3?
Thank you for reading and I look forward to your comments.
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Closest thing I can find that may give you hope. Most definitely an issue for those enjoying this feature, but looks that the update fixed the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473555&page=6
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chaosrecords said:
Ill be pretty straight forward here..
Jensen is known for budget low cost ( low feature) equipment in the car audio world. Its not total junk and its gotten alot better in recent years compared to how they were before Audiovox bought them out, but you get what you pay for. That head unit retails for around $240 compared to other brands that start at $350-400. You sacrifice features and build quality. ( its like comparing your Galaxy Note 3 to a galaxy S2 Mini)
The clipping you are getting I will put money on is your deck.
I don't think updating your phone will improve it, I would test another device and see if you can duplicate the cutting out.. And also try connecting to a different bluetooth device on your Note 3 and see if you experience it.. then you can rule out if its the deck or the phone.
My money is on the deck though as the problem.
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Not that I think of it. I have paired this in a Scion before and this never happened. and I have paired it with a JBL Charge and played Disc Golf for hours without a single hiccup.
So it must be the deck. Or bad connection between Android and Jensen VX4010.
Please advice because if this is true I am going back to the place where I got it installed and return it and get a pioneer. This is going to be a major hassle and I am sure they are going to give me a hard time but will do it.
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Closest thing I can find that may give you hope. Most definitely an issue for those enjoying this feature, but looks that the update fixed the issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473555&page=6
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Ok I have read the thread. Not seeing an exact correction but it does appear that if you update it will run better. Do you know if the blue tooth will drain battery or if they fixed the battery drain because once I update I can not go back unless something new has come out since last time I checked.
Please advise and read above post because I will be in a major jam tomorrow in order to return my stereo unit and or upgrade to 4.4.2 permanently and I never really had to in the first place.
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Not that I think of it. I have paired this in a Scion before and this never happened. and I have paired it with a JBL Charge and played Disc Golf for hours without a single hiccup.
So it must be the deck. Or bad connection between Android and Jensen VX4010.
Please advice because if this is true I am going back to the place where I got it installed and return it and get a pioneer. This is going to be a major hassle and I am sure they are going to give me a hard time but will do it.
Ok I have read the thread. Not seeing an exact correction but it does appear that if you update it will run better. Do you know if the blue tooth will drain battery or if they fixed the battery drain because once I update I can not go back unless something new has come out since last time I checked.
Please advise and read above post because I will be in a major jam tomorrow in order to return my stereo unit and or upgrade to 4.4.2 permanently and I never really had to in the first place.
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I am unclear on many of the issues to which you refer with relation to the specific device you're using, as I don't use them.
I linked the thread due to your specific reference to Bluetooth and AVRCP.
That page to which I linked mentioned it being compatible with the AT&T Note 3 running KitKat.
As to Bluetooth drain being an issue that's been resolved or no on TouchWiz KitKat, I cannot answer, since I use a Bluetooth headset only, and have had zero issues. Others have reported Bluetooth battery drain since this phone was first released.
As to your choice to upgrade or no, I, unfortunately, cannot provide such a definitive answer as you seem to need.
If you wish to play it safe, then I suppose your safest bet is to not upgrade. The alternative has too many ifs and little certainty.
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chaosrecords said:
Ill be pretty straight forward here..
Jensen is known for budget low cost ( low feature) equipment in the car audio world. Its not total junk and its gotten alot better in recent years compared to how they were before Audiovox bought them out, but you get what you pay for. That head unit retails for around $240 compared to other brands that start at $350-400. You sacrifice features and build quality. ( its like comparing your Galaxy Note 3 to a galaxy S2 Mini)
The clipping you are getting I will put money on is your deck.
I don't think updating your phone will improve it, I would test another device and see if you can duplicate the cutting out.. And also try connecting to a different bluetooth device on your Note 3 and see if you experience it.. then you can rule out if its the deck or the phone.
My money is on the deck though as the problem.
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Update!
Ok so I returned the Jensen and got the Pioneer AVH-X7500BT!
Looks like this was a good idea. Bluetooth is great! Much more options.
The only question I have is …
Pandora all of the information shows up like what song it is and who is singing. But for Bluetooth neither this unit nor the other unit displayed information. I am just surprised that these decks can’t show that for 2013/2014 Decks.
I still have not un-rooted my phone and nor do I think I will now. I am just still thinking that if I update to 4.4.2 and get the new updated BT Software on my phone maybe it will transfer song information.
Can anyone verify this?
Other than the song information everything is working great on the pioneer.
Astrongtower said:
Update!
Ok so I returned the Jensen and got the Pioneer AVH-X7500BT!
Looks like this was a good idea. Bluetooth is great! Much more options.
The only question I have is …
Pandora all of the information shows up like what song it is and who is singing. But for Bluetooth neither this unit nor the other unit displayed information. I am just surprised that these decks can’t show that for 2013/2014 Decks.
I still have not un-rooted my phone and nor do I think I will now. I am just still thinking that if I update to 4.4.2 and get the new updated BT Software on my phone maybe it will transfer song information.
Can anyone verify this?
Other than the song information everything is working great on the pioneer.
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Try a different note with 4.4.2 before you update because once you do update there is no going back to 4.3 .... so try and see if it will work before doing the update and maybe messing something else up
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Epix4G said:
Try a different note with 4.4.2 before you update because once you do update there is no going back to 4.3 .... so try and see if it will work before doing the update and maybe messing something else up
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Man that is a brilliant idea. I can stop by the Sprint Store or something and have one of the Tech's come out with their note 3 or something. See if it works and if it does I will update and if it doesn't Ill just keep what I have.
Great Idea!
Astrongtower said:
Update!
Ok so I returned the Jensen and got the Pioneer AVH-X7500BT!
Looks like this was a good idea. Bluetooth is great! Much more options.
The only question I have is …
Pandora all of the information shows up like what song it is and who is singing. But for Bluetooth neither this unit nor the other unit displayed information. I am just surprised that these decks can’t show that for 2013/2014 Decks.
I still have not un-rooted my phone and nor do I think I will now. I am just still thinking that if I update to 4.4.2 and get the new updated BT Software on my phone maybe it will transfer song information.
Can anyone verify this?
Other than the song information everything is working great on the pioneer.
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Bluetooth wont usually sync the picture and album art with most radios.
Pioneer is a good choice!
The radio itself has to have its own Pandora app to display what you are looking for... Bluetooth just streams the audio through with third party apps.. and when you use the music apps it sends the song information from the file its playing. There may be a pioneer app on the play store to do this for you with pandora/etc.. I still use my Pioneer Premier radio from 2006 ( Premier line was amazing then) I know pioneer has a thing called "Appradio" which uses MHL connection to your phone to use the phone display as the headunit so all your apps/etc work on the screen.
That may be the direction you want to go in.. if that matters the most to you.
Also- Rooting wont affect anything with your bluetooth- Everything will work just like it did before if you root. You just void warranty if you trip knox.. you only need root if you want to install roms, remove system apps, or install apps that require root access ( being able to write to your /system directory) like Titanium Backup, Tethering Apps, Flashlights.. etc..
Ive rooted every device ive ever gotten my hands on- I go through phones every 6-9 months, and I rent cars and use bluetooth with every model out there and they all work great with my note 3 regardless what rom i have. Only time i ever had a problem was when the phone was overheating..
chaosrecords said:
Bluetooth wont usually sync the picture and album art with most radios.
Pioneer is a good choice!
The radio itself has to have its own Pandora app to display what you are looking for... Bluetooth just streams the audio through with third party apps.. and when you use the music apps it sends the song information from the file its playing. There may be a pioneer app on the play store to do this for you with pandora/etc.. I still use my Pioneer Premier radio from 2006 ( Premier line was amazing then) I know pioneer has a thing called "Appradio" which uses MHL connection to your phone to use the phone display as the headunit so all your apps/etc work on the screen.
That may be the direction you want to go in.. if that matters the most to you.
Also- Rooting wont affect anything with your bluetooth- Everything will work just like it did before if you root. You just void warranty if you trip knox.. you only need root if you want to install roms, remove system apps, or install apps that require root access ( being able to write to your /system directory) like Titanium Backup, Tethering Apps, Flashlights.. etc..
Ive rooted every device ive ever gotten my hands on- I go through phones every 6-9 months, and I rent cars and use bluetooth with every model out there and they all work great with my note 3 regardless what rom i have. Only time i ever had a problem was when the phone was overheating..
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Thank you so much for all this valuable information. I will try to do everything you have suggested and you let you know how it goes. I am so glad I got rid of that Jensen. I did like how the USB and the Audio Out was right on the Dash but I can get over that.
Again Thank You! Will be trying all this out!
Astrongtower said:
Thank you so much for all this valuable information. I will try to do everything you have suggested and you let you know how it goes. I am so glad I got rid of that Jensen. I did like how the USB and the Audio Out was right on the Dash but I can get over that.
Again Thank You! Will be trying all this out!
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You can definitely get rooted again on the latest firmware.
I just did an Odin One Click to the latest version ( Nc5 Firmware) with WiFi Calling
-used CF Auto Root to root again with Odin
-installed TWRP recovery with Odin-
-installed Freeza's Fre3 rom 2.1, flashed the 400mb update to 2.6, then flashed the theme pack thats in the thread there and my phone works great.
I also changed my LCD Density to 320 so my phones UI fits alot more on the screen like I do with most of my roms I flash.
As far as bluetooth goes I didnt notice any differences... The only problem I ever have when dealing with roms is when I use Cyanogenmod roms, or anything AOSP based I have issues with the volume being too low.. but lately Ive been on Freeza's rom and sometimes switch to Josh Beach's roms ( kitkatkiller) both are highly recommended and are based on stock samsung firmware thats themed and de-bloated.
chaosrecords said:
You can definitely get rooted again on the latest firmware.
I just did an Odin One Click to the latest version ( Nc5 Firmware) with WiFi Calling
-used CF Auto Root to root again with Odin
-installed TWRP recovery with Odin-
-installed Freeza's Fre3 rom 2.1, flashed the 400mb update to 2.6, then flashed the theme pack thats in the thread there and my phone works great.
I also changed my LCD Density to 320 so my phones UI fits alot more on the screen like I do with most of my roms I flash.
As far as bluetooth goes I didnt notice any differences... The only problem I ever have when dealing with roms is when I use Cyanogenmod roms, or anything AOSP based I have issues with the volume being too low.. but lately Ive been on Freeza's rom and sometimes switch to Josh Beach's roms ( kitkatkiller) both are highly recommended and are based on stock samsung firmware thats themed and de-bloated.
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Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Thanks!
Astrongtower said:
Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Okay so I think I read the question wrong. But I recently rooted my phone sprint note 3 using the towelroot method without Knox being tripped. I unrooted my phone or broke my root purposely by deleting the .su binaries from the system bin using ESfile explorer. Look up that technique on YouTube for more directions. It worked for me. Flixster works just fine. And the root checker did not see that my phone was rooted after I used this technique. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYz4E9nO2kM . Now if you have a custom recovery or a custom rom then this method can be a hassle. And I suggest you search for a Odin technique.
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Astrongtower said:
Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Okay so I think I read the question wrong. But I recently rooted my phone sprint note 3 using the towelroot method without Knox being tripped. I unrooted my phone or broke my root purposely by deleting the .su binaries from the system bin using ESfile explorer. Look up that technique on YouTube for more directions. It worked for me. Flixster works just fine. And the root checker did not see that my phone was rooted after I used this technique. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYz4E9nO2kM . Now if you have a custom recovery or a custom rom then this method can be a hassle. And I suggest you search for a Odin technique.
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I apologize. But I am unsure what you are trying to explain.
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I would definitely try another phone with 4.4 before updating. I for one truly hate 4.4. So much so, that I'm considering trading my gn3 for a gn2 just to get rid of it.
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I would definitely try another phone with 4.4 before updating. I for one truly hate 4.4. So much so, that I'm considering trading my gn3 for a gn2 just to get rid of it.
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Could you please tell me why you hate it so much?
Here is the deal I just went to the Sprint Store and tried a Galaxy S4 with 4.4.2 on it and it showed all song data on any app that was used to my car stereo deck.
So then I thought hey maybe its the app.
Well ... Come to find out. The default apps do play the song data to my car stereo deck but Mort Player the player that I like does not. It does how ever play on 4.4.2.
Mort Player - Song data comes over to deck
4.3 = No
4.4 = Yes
Defult Music Players
4.3 = Yes
4.4 = Yes
Now I can keep my 4.3 and find a player that can push music information and display information over current settings via 4.3 like the default players do. Or upgrade to 4.4.2 and enjoy my music player with song information listed. Then I would just have to deal with everything else that everyone hates though.
Please list what you hate so I can decide which avenue to take please.
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You can definitely get rooted again on the latest firmware.
I just did an Odin One Click to the latest version ( Nc5 Firmware) with WiFi Calling
-used CF Auto Root to root again with Odin
-installed TWRP recovery with Odin-
-installed Freeza's Fre3 rom 2.1, flashed the 400mb update to 2.6, then flashed the theme pack thats in the thread there and my phone works great.
I also changed my LCD Density to 320 so my phones UI fits alot more on the screen like I do with most of my roms I flash.
As far as bluetooth goes I didnt notice any differences... The only problem I ever have when dealing with roms is when I use Cyanogenmod roms, or anything AOSP based I have issues with the volume being too low.. but lately Ive been on Freeza's rom and sometimes switch to Josh Beach's roms ( kitkatkiller) both are highly recommended and are based on stock samsung firmware thats themed and de-bloated.
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Please let me know how awesome 4.4.2 is and if I should upgrade and not worry about it. I went to the Sprint Store and found out that on every application on Android on 4.4.2 and a Sprint Galaxy S4 every song information played on my stereo deck. The Pioneer. I am thinking about just upgrading so I have the latest security, towers, and Bluetooth software installed on my phone.
Please read my last post to get you updated on my findings.
Also read the below quote. Many people hate 4.4.2 and I do not want to upgrade and become one of those people who are stuck.
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I would definitely try another phone with 4.4 before updating. I for one truly hate 4.4. So much so, that I'm considering trading my gn3 for a gn2 just to get rid of it.
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Astrongtower said:
Could you please tell me why you hate it so much?
Here is the deal I just went to the Sprint Store and tried a Galaxy S4 with 4.4.2 on it and it showed all song data on any app that was used to my car stereo deck.
So then I thought hey maybe its the app.
Well ... Come to find out. The default apps do play the song data to my car stereo deck but Mort Player the player that I like does not. It does how ever play on 4.4.2.
Mort Player - Song data comes over to deck
4.3 = No
4.4 = Yes
Defult Music Players
4.3 = Yes
4.4 = Yes
Now I can keep my 4.3 and find a player that can push music information and display information over current settings via 4.3 like the default players do. Or upgrade to 4.4.2 and enjoy my music player with song information listed. Then I would just have to deal with everything else that everyone hates though.
Please list what you hate so I can decide which avenue to take please.
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What I hate has little to do with features and more to do with how much harder it is to do things as a themer. It is ass ugly and harder to theme properly. I want to tell Google and Samsung to _______themselves as they are attempting to stop us from changing things. Say what you want about how great Android platform is. Within a few years it will be locked down as tight as the iPhone. 4.4 is step 1 in that process and therefore bad.
chaosrecords said:
You can definitely get rooted again on the latest firmware.
I just did an Odin One Click to the latest version ( Nc5 Firmware) with WiFi Calling
-used CF Auto Root to root again with Odin
-installed TWRP recovery with Odin-
-installed Freeza's Fre3 rom 2.1, flashed the 400mb update to 2.6, then flashed the theme pack thats in the thread there and my phone works great.
I also changed my LCD Density to 320 so my phones UI fits alot more on the screen like I do with most of my roms I flash.
As far as bluetooth goes I didnt notice any differences... The only problem I ever have when dealing with roms is when I use Cyanogenmod roms, or anything AOSP based I have issues with the volume being too low.. but lately Ive been on Freeza's rom and sometimes switch to Josh Beach's roms ( kitkatkiller) both are highly recommended and are based on stock samsung firmware thats themed and de-bloated.
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kaice30 said:
Astrongtower said:
Awesome I will check all that as well. I kept my phone rooted so far on 4.3. I might just flash all your stuff now that Chainfire has come out with a reset flash counter not that its a big deal anyways anymore. Note 3 is getting a little dated and the newness is wearing off so I am not worried about it. Works great.
I tried AppRaido with little luck. Everything works perfect but it does not show any song information on the screen.
What I would love to have is a Music Player that plays FOLDERS and shows SONG INFORMATION on the DECK. I am doubting that this is probably impossible.
If you have any other great ideas please shoot.
Looking forward to searching for more cool apps on Android to see if they are compatible. Just wish their was an App that can force the information on the screen.
I did use the built in Pandora function and everything shows up including the song information. That is awesome. Why can't there be an App that pushing the Song Information to the Deck.
Okay so I think I read the question wrong. But I recently rooted my phone sprint note 3 using the towelroot method without Knox being tripped. I unrooted my phone or broke my root purposely by deleting the .su binaries from the system bin using ESfile explorer. Look up that technique on YouTube for more directions. It worked for me. Flixster works just fine. And the root checker did not see that my phone was rooted after I used this technique. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vYz4E9nO2kM . Now if you have a custom recovery or a custom rom then this method can be a hassle. And I suggest you search for a Odin technique.
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Skunk Ape1 said:
What I hate has little to do with features and more to do with how much harder it is to do things as a themer. It is ass ugly and harder to theme properly. I want to tell Google and Samsung to _______themselves as they are attempting to stop us from changing things. Say what you want about how great Android platform is. Within a few years it will be locked down as tight as the iPhone. 4.4 is step 1 in that process and therefore bad.
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Update Update Update!
I just couldn’t believe that no App would show the music data on my deck. After seeing it work on 4.4.2 and watching different Apps work I thought I would try a ton of Apps.
To my amazement these two Apps play music folders like I want and show all music data to my car stereo deck:
Folder Player
Rocket Player
These Apps I tried play music but do not transmit any music data to my car stereo deck:
Mortplayer
KAmMa’s Folder Player
Music Folder Player Free
EX Folder Player
MFPlayer
I have no idea why the how Folder Player and Rocket Player transmit the information. But it seems I get the best of both worlds for now. I can use Rocket Player via Bluetooth and see all my folder information and keep my Note 3 rooted on 4.3. Party!
I am just wondering if I should upgrade for latest security, tower information and perks but at least I have time to think about it now.
Thanks for everyone’s help!
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Remember that you are doing this of your own free will and if anything happens negatively including Vader going back to the dark side it's your fault.
This is what I did to go from rooted, Knox reading not tripped to 4.4.2 Knox counter still untripped.
1)You would want to back up anything onto a computer and your SD card including nandroid if possible if you don't know what a nandroid is you may not yet have the technical ability to make one.
1a) download the latest stock version of 4.4.2 use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205
2)go here
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-repair/how-to-unroot-galaxy-note-3/
Print it out
3) download the Odin from here
4)the above has links to Odin and step by step instructions with pictures
5) download towelroot from http://towelroot.com
Put it on your SD card
5) pull your SD card safely and reset your phone with factory data reset or if your running a custom recovery through it.
6) follow the steps from
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-note-3-repair/how-to-unroot-galaxy-note-3/
you should of printed it out....
7) after it says pass and is booting put your SD card in.
8) side load/install towelroot
8a) run towelroot and make it rain
9) install root checker verify it worked and then a superuser program.
At this point you will have a rooted 4.4.2 stock rom.
For the latest stock version of 4.4.2 use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712205
And yes the Odin listed in the unroot website flashes that rom on my sprint phone without a problem.
Worked for me.
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