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I bought the HTC 6800 from Bell about a month ago, and it seems to be quite buggy. Often times my keys won't respond, my wifi won't connect, my email won't work, etc. All causing me to have to restart. Also there is a text message stuck in my outbox, which keeps resending and I cannot delete/move it, so it is constantly sending to the person.
I'm wondering what my options are for "upgrading" and how I would go about this?
Should upgrading or updating the ROM have any effect? It just doesn't seem "stable" like it should be.
Send it back!
If you just got it and it is doing all that I would send it back and get a new one!
JMHO!
you could try a custom rom.
mine is customized for sprint, but i could make a cab to change to bell.
Would upgrading to a new rom cause any ill effects? Do I need to unlock the phone before I can do that?
If it is acting that wonky I would suggest (if you have your stuff backed up) a hard reset (hold in both soft buttons while pressing the reset button). If that doesn't work, I would exchange it.
Okay, I hard reset it. If I'm having any more problems I'll make a most and most likely take it back to see if I can have it replaced.
Thanks for the help!
Also, does installing a new rom help with the stability of the device, or is a new rom just because people prefer the different roms for their features, etc.?
Custom roms are just that custom, some are stripped down and some have every bell and whistle you can imagine, as far as stability goes, some roms are more stable and fix things that are broken in the factory rom but sometimes they are less stable, it all depends really most if not all of the custom roms out there beta.
If you like clean and stable check out DCD's rom, I've been using it for quite sometime and it is real clean and stable for the most part, also seems to fix the majority of any BT issues that this device has. If you like a rom that crams as much stuff as you can imagine check out colonels rom out over on ppcgeeks, I've used this one as well, but for me there was just too much stuff. YMMV
edit: If you try any custom roms don't forget to unlock your phone first.
On every Jellybean rom, I have calling issues. On some roms, call audio wont work. On the rom I just flashed, it would not make or receive calls all together. Also, this happens only after a certain period of time. And it goes from sporadic occurances to permanent. It takes about a day or two for these issues to start appearing. This is so god damn frustrating because in the beginning the rom works perfectly, I spend all my time setting it up, and then a day or so later, I get these issues that make the phone completely unusable. Its absolutely ridiculous, and If anyone has any ideas, please please let me know. I love the JB roms but they all seem to make my phone unusable after a short time.
Please help....
JB roms are still a work in progress. And your problems could be caused/made worse by your setup (apps, widgets, tweaks, etc...). If you are using different kernels/radio, it can also contribute to problems. There are just too many variables.
My answer : use an ICS rom. ICS roms are alot more stable on our phone right now.
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On every Jellybean rom, I have calling issues. On some roms, call audio wont work. On the rom I just flashed, it would not make or receive calls all together. Also, this happens only after a certain period of time. And it goes from sporadic occurances to permanent. It takes about a day or two for these issues to start appearing. This is so god damn frustrating because in the beginning the rom works perfectly, I spend all my time setting it up, and then a day or so later, I get these issues that make the phone completely unusable. Its absolutely ridiculous, and If anyone has any ideas, please please let me know. I love the JB roms but they all seem to make my phone unusable after a short time.
Please help....
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I am observing similar issues. I didn't used to happen before. I mean it did happen but it was a rare thing. But now it is more often. Almost everyday I have to reflash because of loosing phone audio.
I was rocking AOCP 3.1 , Worked really sweet and then decided to update to go for AOCP 4.1 and since then no rom that I tried have saved me. In fact I had to revert back to stock. What rom are you using?
People, it's a known issue on all JB Roms.
Don't open a thread about it.
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I am observing similar issues. I didn't used to happen before. I mean it did happen but it was a rare thing. But now it is more often. Almost everyday I have to reflash because of loosing phone audio.
I was rocking AOCP 3.1 , Worked really sweet and then decided to update to go for AOCP 4.1 and since then no rom that I tried have saved me. In fact I had to revert back to stock. What rom are you using?
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I have the exact same issue now, It doesnt look like any rom is saving me right now.. my phone wont make calls or receive texts at all. I was running cookies and cream 4.1.2 and everytime i flash a JB rom it just seems to get worse and worse...
EDIT: I got it back on ICS. I guess I will just have to wait to use any JB roms... its unfortunate cause I love the JB roms hahaha
I have had issues with JB as well. I, just like the OP, would experience a perfectly working phone for a day or two then **** would hit the fan for no apparent reason. The phone would start locking up, randomly rebooting, apps would fail or not load, etc etc etc.
On most ROM's I didn't even have anything installed outside of the stock apps that CAME with the ROM.
Since then I have moved to a deoxed stock ICS ROM and honestly am not looking back. ICS is fast, stable, feature packed, and JUST WORKS.
My thing with JB was it's speed...but I was also comparing a barebones JB to the stock Gingerbread that came with the phone. I wasn't aware of how fast ICS was or I would have just gone with it long before hand!
But yeah, either way it goes, for me, no matter the ROM, JB always seemed to mess up at one point or another. Got annoying. Been going with ICS for over a week now with ZERO issues what so ever. No reboots, no crashes, no freezing, no nothing.
NEVERMIND..... ICS worked for one call, and now no calls work... great....
ICS roms are very stable.
You may have flashed your rom/kernel/radio incorrectly, or made some tweaks, or installed incompatible apps... There are too many variables.
Revert back to completely stock setup and see if the problems persist.
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NEVERMIND..... ICS worked for one call, and now no calls work... great....
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I'll take a stab, what gapps? Do you use a call blocker of any kind?
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Same. I think it's the same for a lot of people, and I think the ones who say things run great either ignore the problems or are just extremely lucky.
Switch to Padawan. It's rock solid and you get all the fanciness of jelly bean. Since switching to it I've completely lost the itch to try out random JB ROMs. I have cool animations, Google Now, and ICS Browser+. And until I rebooted earlier to mess with stuff, I was at 142 hours uptime without any problems.
I'm not calling anyone a liar, though. I just think some people ignore more or are, as stated, lucky. I've done wiped everything, went back and wiped stuff post ROM, ran 3rd party (3rd ROM party) kernels and the ones that come with it. I've set cron to fix permissions on boot. And other than gapps -- which I always flash what the dev says to -- I run about ten 3rd party apps, and that's mostly made up of solid apps -- dropbox, exdialer, ics browser+.. etc..
Padawan, or even Nebula.
These ROMs are by the same dev, and the only difference is that Nebula is based off of Canadian version, which has even less bloat. It is better than stock.
I have been on Nebula for about a week, and no random reboots, no lockup, no phone problems. Everything just works.
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Padawan, or even Nebula.
These ROMs are by the same dev, and the only difference is that Nebula is based off of Canadian version, which has even less bloat. It is better than stock.
I have been on Nebula for about a week, and no random reboots, no lockup, no phone problems. Everything just works.
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I like padawan, and Im on it now. But i still am getting this random issue where calls do not go through. Its so aggravating that Im about to smash my phone against the wall. Its happening all the time now and when I need to make a call, I cant. god damnit
have you flashed the most recent modem?
Yes, that was my next question.
Have you at any point flashed a different kernel/radio/modem? If you have, or if you do not know, search for stock kernel/radio/modem and flash them to see if it helps.
yes, uclf6 modem but eventually it just gives out.. idk what the issue is here everything works fine for a few days and out of the blue when I need my phone i cant receive or make calls anymore its INFURIATING
yes, uclf6 modem but eventually it just gives out.. idk what the issue is here everything works fine for a few days and out of the blue when I need my phone i cant receive or make calls anymore its INFURIATING
Revert back to complete stock and see if the issue still exists.
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People, it's a known issue on all JB Roms.
Don't open a thread about it.
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I have had a similar issue with the JB rom's...so far I've tried only two and seem to find the aokp_quicyatt_jb_milestone-1 rom. I have noticed issues with my phone and LTE network coverage...meaning, I can see the signal go from 4G LTE to 3G to H, then gone...I looked at the phone status settings and noticed the mobile network type with this rom is LTE:13 and with the stock ICS rom (prior to rooting and flashing) it was LTE:14...is there a way that I can change it via terminal? Thank you in advance for any help on this. The one big difference I can see so far is the battery life...much better. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Issues are known....Thread Closed & Thank You.
Hi folks, I've had the AT&T samsung galaxy sII i777 for some time now and i've loved having android capabilities in comparison to the iPhone which i almost went with. I'm having one problem though; I cannot seem to even get a solid connection or establish a call around my part of town, even though other AT&T phones have no problem at all! My sister for example, has a new iphone. And while she gets bad service, she can at least make a call without any problem. For me, it will instantly end my call upon dial, give me a no-service prompt, or will just hang/stall on the dialer app. Very VERY frusterating to say the least.
My theory is that my android keeps trying to search between different networking types to find which type of connection will be ideal (edge, 3g, 4g etc), but won't stay on a service long enough while switching between different types to actually do anything. I've tryed many different modems, but with zero luck. Lately, i've given up on the project and have just been staying on the default one's that comes with the i777 AOKP package updates. And just to be clear, I am running the i777 aokp rom, not the ported i9100 to i777 AOKP rom.
Before i even rooted and flashed the sucker, on the default stock rom, it seemed to run way better than it is right now. I know custom roms are expected to have bugs, but AOKP has been out for some time, and even on the latest builds, i've had lots of apps (mainly the browser) crashing on me constantly. I've been thinking about just completely formatting the SD card, and starting anew with a fresh install of a brand new rom (after doing some thorough homework on it, of course). But that brings up another question, will formatting the SD card, also format Root Access and the installed kernal?
What are the secure steps to Completely clean my SD card, and start from scratch? I definitely don't want to brick my phone.
thank you for any feedback
Your sd card doesn't have anything to do with the functionality of the phone. It will only be a waste of your time, as you will just have to put your media back on it.
Which modem do you have now? Have you tried other ROMs?
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Your problems have NOTHING TO DO with AOKP. Someone reading this may get that idea. Whatever apps u have crash or service errors and reception are not the fault of that rom. It's a mix of at&t problems and user error or poorly written apps.
If you had noticeably better service with the stock rom but wanted the additional features the devs here provide, sounds like you'd be better off with a rom built off a samsung source rather than AOSP source. You can try flashing a different modem first (see the thread at the top of the development forum). My phone came with UCKK6, and now i'm running UCLE5 (on AOKP 6/22), which has always seemed to provide slightly better reception and data rates. I'd start there if i were you.
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If you had noticeably better service with the stock rom but wanted the additional features the devs here provide, sounds like you'd be better off with a rom built off a samsung source rather than AOSP source. You can try flashing a different modem first (see the thread at the top of the development forum). My phone came with UCKK6, and now i'm running UCLE5 (on AOKP 6/22), which has always seemed to provide slightly better reception and data rates. I'd start there if i were you.
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That's interesting...after doing some testing, I discovered its opposite for me, or at least in the south part of my town. The uckk6 works better than the ucle5 by what seems like 20% or so. But on such a small scale with only getting 1 or 2 bars in the first place, its rally hard to tell. Its only a 10kb/sec difference unless I somehow find a strong connection in my house. My neighbors also have a large HAM radio antenna in their backyard and I think it causes minor interference with the cell towers :*(
Hello friends,
I recently picked up an i717 and am in the process of sorting it out. It was originally a Bell phone, though of course it's unlocked these days. I've been hacking at various Android phones for years now and have managed to work through just about everything, but this has me stumped...
I've tried almost all the 4.4 roms, and most of the 4.3 as well. I've tried various kernels/modems/combinations/etc. I've used CWM and TWRP. They all invariably lead to the phone either rebooting constantly from the "optimizing apps" dialogue, or a few times I've made it to the welcome screen, but it's always just up for a minute or two, crashes, then reboots. I haven't found a live download for 4.2 yet, so I don't know if it would work or not. 4.1 stock and Padawan run just great. I've been doing multiple full wipes before installation, flashing the rom a few times, then hitting the caches a few more times for good measure. I can't imagine my flashing technique being at issue here.
I do know that there is at least some physical damage to the phone. The capacitive buttons don't work. But it doesn't see immediately obvious to me that these would be related. Of course, I've seen stranger things. Running Padawan the phone will hum right along at max speed all day with no apparent issues, so that side of the hardware seems okay.
Sometimes CM roms will end up at the CM welcome screen and pop up a "com.android.acore has stopped" dialogue. But the constant reboots are there on every rom I've tried.
Does anybody have any ideas?
Outside of the, every once in a while you just need to go all the way back to stock just to make sure all the garbage is taken out, have you considered the infamous stuck power button?
Though I have yet to, many have experience the stuck power button. It may feel ok and you may even hear it click, but that doesnt mean anything. Give your phone a couple good flicks to the back behind the button. Though it does seem odd that it would run one rom without issue and not others, but it is worth a shot.
Again taking your phone to 100% stock every blue moon or so can be a good remedy too.
Keep us posted. We can work you through this.
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I thought about the power button issue. However, it proceeds to boot into the OS until after a time when the screen locks then reboot, which would seem too long to be the power button in any case. Regardless, a few sharp flicks didn't help much. And, of course, it runs quite happily all day long running on 4.1.
I have restored to stock JB, though admittedly not earlier than that. I guess I could try going all the way back to GB to see if that makes any difference.
In my experimentation tonight I've found that 4.2 also does not work, while I can add 4.1 non-tw roms to the working list. My best guess seems like something about one of the many under-the-hood things that changed with 4.2 doesn't get along with something about my particular phone. But, who knows.
For now I'll try rolling back to GB in Odin and see where that gets me.
I would say ICS is about as far back as you need. Recently I was having issue getting anything 4.3 and up to work or even flash. No different recoveries had effect either.
Wiped slate clean and started over from ICS, and Bob was my uncle. Everything that failed before was not an issue. Running latest 4.4 now and might I say "Orgasmic"
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Ahh, if only I were on 4.4 on my Note, life would be good Though, to be honest, I'm quite digging this thing, even at 4.1.
Last night I rolled back to GB, and had no luck. Although the Odin tar that I found apparently didn't include recovery, so that had to be flashed separately. I don't know if that might make a difference. That might be my experiment for tonight if I can find a tar that includes everything. Might be easier to find on ICS.
Just running my mind through other stuff I've thought of, I remember reading about kitkat having some issues with SD cards, so I've mostly been experimenting with the card pulled and a fresh format on the internal storage, with no real difference. Tried safe mode, no dice (not that I would expect this to make a difference on a fresh flash, but who knows lol...).
It's just such a weird thing. It boots into the OS with seemingly no issues. On occasions when I can actually get to the lock screen, everything runs fluid as can be until it freezes and reboots. Sometimes when it gets stuck at the 'optimizing' screen it'll just restart the count every boot, sometimes the number of apps to be done go down each time until there are 3-4 left which persist through each reboot.
I wonder if I could check logcat via adb before it reboots. Might be able to find some clues there.
Here's a factory firmware image of 4.1.2 to be flashed with Odin.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/g7gn29h7nu63id5
I've used this to revert many times. Install it. Run it once, then factory reset and run it for at least a few hours. If you experience issues you probably have hardware failure. If you don't have issues you can proceed with installing the latest clockwork mod recovery. Then wipe system and internal memory 3 times with recovery. Now flash the zip of your favorite kit Kat rom. Reboot and run it. Then factory reset and hopefully run it forever! If you're on a kit Kat build and experience sd card issues, there's an xposed module that might be able to help with that.
Thanks a lot, Bro. I'm downloading the image right now and will flash it then give it some time to settle in. Fingers will be crossed!
Just to give you guys an update, I flashed that stock image, ran it that way for a day, then attempted a few different 4.4 roms. Still no lock.
But thanks for the ideas so far!
I guess it's not the worst thing in the world. At least it runs 4.1 like a top.
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Just to give you guys an update, I flashed that stock image, ran it that way for a day, then attempted a few different 4.4 roms. Still no lock.
But thanks for the ideas so far!
I guess it's not the worst thing in the world. At least it runs 4.1 like a top.
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Have you tried to turn on USB Debugging and run "adb logcat" to see what errors are causing the problem? If it is an optional program or hardware feature you may be able to disable it and run the newer ROMs. I know bluetooth has been an ongoing pain point for people. Which modem are you running? I know that some of the older modems do not work with the newer ROMS.
Good luck.
Brett
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i had the same issue, flashed 4.4.4 and ran like a charm for 1 day them the radio took a dump. downgraded and worked for another day.
imei became unknown and the no radios were able to fix this. went as far back as 2.3.6 hoping my radios would be fixed and no dice.i have tried endless for weeks to fix my phone and seems doomed.
none of the bricked threads helped and flashing stock with odin is no help. there seems to be no fix to the null imei and unknown baseband
So I have been trying various MM roms but have finally admitted defeat and gone back to stock.
For what ever reason mobile signals for Virgin (EE) by us is not great, but the OPx has proved the worst phone I have owned yet with regard to making best use of what reception we do get, (Still have OP1 and S7 owners in the house, so have comparison).
However, all of the many MM roms I tried only made things worse with either weaker signal (or that's how it appeared) or they were unable to handle the swap between Wifi and Mobile, always requiring reboot, once I left the homes Wifi in order to get mobile data working!
It's so bad that I am even considering replacing the phone, but it's hard to find anything else in budget and size with same spec.
Thanks to everyone here who builds these custom roms and all the accompanying support, but for now I will continue with stock until I miss MM facilities too much.
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So I have been trying various MM roms but have finally admitted defeat and gone back to stock.
For what ever reason mobile signals for Virgin (EE) by us is not great, but the OPx has proved the worst phone I have owned yet with regard to making best use of what reception we do get, (Still have OP1 and S7 owners in the house, so have comparison).
However, all of the many MM roms I tried only made things worse with either weaker signal (or that's how it appeared) or they were unable to handle the swap between Wifi and Mobile, always requiring reboot, once I left the homes Wifi in order to get mobile data working!
It's so bad that I am even considering replacing the phone, but it's hard to find anything else in budget and size with same spec.
Thanks to everyone here who builds these custom roms and all the accompanying support, but for now I will continue with stock until I miss MM facilities too much.
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It's just face value which shows yellow line in battery graph as far as I can tell. I do not see any difference now. Transition from wifi to mobile data is fine here. I am using turbo at the moment. Give it a try. If you wanna switch to a new phone, moto g4 plus should be good choice.
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It's just face value which shows yellow line in battery graph as far as I can tell. I do not see any difference now. Transition from wifi to mobile data is fine here. I am using turbo at the moment. Give it a try. If you wanna switch to a new phone, moto g4 plus should be good choice.
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Hi, sorry not sure I understand the first part of your reply.
Anyway, the truth is that apart from this recent damned data issue, this is close to the perfect phone for me (seriously couldn't go for anything as large as the g4).
I have owned the OPx since release and though mobile data was never the best, it wasn't as bad as it has appeared this last couple of weeks. I am hoping that I have had a 'perfect storm' of events that led to 2 weeks of poor data connections/transfers. Bad roms, poorly implemented, weak mobile data areas etc etc.
Therefore, I am going to continue with testing different roms and set ups and hope that I can fix the issue, because there is no other phone on the market that comes as close to my perfect phone as the X.
I second Turbo ROM but also try Validius. Using it right now I think they feed it steroids.
For me this solution worked when facing troubles with mobile data on custom roms:
(Re)install the stock rom, backup EFS in Twrp, do a complete wipe, flash custom rom, restore EFS in TWRP, reboot to rom, restore standard settings in APN / mobile data settings, reboot.
It solved my frustrating issues, hopefully it does the same for you!
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For me this solution worked when facing troubles with mobile data on custom roms:
(Re)install the stock rom, backup EFS in Twrp, do a complete wipe, flash custom rom, restore EFS in TWRP, reboot to rom, restore standard settings in APN / mobile data settings, reboot.
It solved my frustrating issues, hopefully it does the same for you!
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Many thanks for replying, I had indeed seen your thread and tried the solution, though initially I didn't think it had solved my issue. However, due to there being no other phone I care for, I tried another rom and then reflashed the EFS backup.
And you know what, I think it may just have worked this time.
Thanks for your help and others.
Go try Sultans ROM. He recently switched to Oxygens RIL
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Go try Sultans ROM. He recently switched to Oxygens RIL
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That's the one I'm trying and so far so good
It would be great if someone could create a flashable zip with oxygen RIL to use on any custom ROM. Don't even know if it's possible? Perhaps @RJDTWO can enlighten us, do you have the expertise? ?
Sultan's rom is the most stable regarding cell signal quality and speed. I have tried lots of roms, his rom is the only rom that comes near oxygen, every other custom rom has considerably worse lte speed and signal quality
@cokesucker it needs integration with the rom as far as i know, i think Sultan made the modifications needed for the rom to work with oxygen RIL
Folks, Ive dirty flashed the latest Rom, which I assume writes over the stoc EFS restore I had applied previous version of this Rom
Regardless, the difference in signal (as well as other areas) is noticeable.
I love this phone again, thanks everyone.
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It would be great if someone could create a flashable zip with oxygen RIL to use on any custom ROM. Don't even know if it's possible? Perhaps @RJDTWO can enlighten us, do you have the expertise? ?
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This is unfortunately not possible. The RIL itself is built with the ROM.
been on o2os, cm12, cm13 now - never had issues you describe, you can try development settings keep phone data always active could easily solve your issue since data wont never disconnect
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been on o2os, cm12, cm13 now - never had issues you describe, you can try development settings keep phone data always active could easily solve your issue since data wont never disconnect
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I tried most things and thought that occasionally I had solved it by 'forcing wifi' or whatever.
However, because much I what I did was reactionary rather than trying scientifically to identify the main issues, the causes probably got lost in location, reboots, resets, etc etc.
What I can say is that for 2 days, I have been using Sultanas latest Rom and it has worked flawlessly.
Nice, good to hear Bob!
I'm using that rom too, it's a real gem!
(Oxygen EFS restoring was still necessary despite the oxygen ril though)
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Nice, good to hear Bob!
I'm using that rom too, it's a real gem!
(Oxygen EFS restoring was still necessary despite the oxygen ril though)
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That's interesting, I'm using "as is", and so far so good. I'm off on travels tomorrow will keep an eye on performance. Any issues and I'll restore stock EFS.