[Q] S-OFF (in the politest possible way!!) - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

Hi,
I'm trying to S-OFF my sister-in-law's HTC Flyer and then put a more recent Android OS on it.
The Flyer is currently running OS 3.2.1, software 3.55.405.1 with the 1.11.0011 HBOOT.
I've been trying to research this for the last few weeks and so far I've:
1. Unlocked the bootloader via HTC Dev
2. Installed Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4 recovery
3. Rooted
However, I understand that to upgrade to a more recent OS (e.g. 4.x) I need S-OFF. The device is currently S-ON.
I also understand I need to downgrade to an earlier HBOOT and OS which will allow me to use tools to S-OFF. Once I've done that, then I can put a much more recent CFW on it and thus a newer OS.
However, here's the problem. Running an appropriate RUU doesn't work. It does nothing at all. I've donwloaded one from two different sources and neither do anything. They just say 'sending....' for hours on end, and when I give up a reboot I see RUU failed and then reboot again and device is back to where it was before. Nothing's changed.
If what I understand above is correct, what's my next course of action?
It's a P510e HTC Sense 1.1 (Fastboot getvar cid says HTC_16 so it's a PG4110000) with 3G and Wi-Fi.
Thanks in advance!

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richych said:
Hi,
I'm trying to S-OFF my sister-in-law's HTC Flyer and then put a more recent Android OS on it.
The Flyer is currently running OS 3.2.1, software 3.55.405.1 with the 1.11.0011 HBOOT.
I've been trying to research this for the last few weeks and so far I've:
1. Unlocked the bootloader via HTC Dev
2. Installed Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4 recovery
3. Rooted
However, I understand that to upgrade to a more recent OS (e.g. 4.x) I need S-OFF. The device is currently S-ON.
I also understand I need to downgrade to an earlier HBOOT and OS which will allow me to use tools to S-OFF. Once I've done that, then I can put a much more recent CFW on it and thus a newer OS.
However, here's the problem. Running an appropriate RUU doesn't work. It does nothing at all. I've donwloaded one from two different sources and neither do anything. They just say 'sending....' for hours on end, and when I give up a reboot I see RUU failed and then reboot again and device is back to where it was before. Nothing's changed.
If what I understand above is correct, what's my next course of action?
It's a P510e HTC Sense 1.1 (Fastboot getvar cid says HTC_16 so it's a PG4110000) with 3G and Wi-Fi.
Thanks in advance!
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First try this http://revolutionary.io/
Basicly follow instructions on site.
If it doesnt help, xda forums are full of threads which will help you.

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Hi,
Thanks for the reply, but I've already visited that site. Unfortunately, it isn't of any help to me as I'm not running the required HBOOT version. Mine is later (v1.11.0011) and it needs to be downgraded to an earlier version before S-OFF can be achieved via revolutionary.io.
So, I guess I firstly need to find a way to downgrade from 1.11.0011 to an earlier HBOOT before I can then S-OFF and add a custom ROM running a later Android OS.

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richych said:
Hi,
Thanks for the reply, but I've already visited that site. Unfortunately, it isn't of any help to me as I'm not running the required HBOOT version. Mine is later (v1.11.0011) and it needs to be downgraded to an earlier version before S-OFF can be achieved via revolutionary.io.
So, I guess I firstly need to find a way to downgrade from 1.11.0011 to an earlier HBOOT before I can then S-OFF and add a custom ROM running a later Android OS.
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downgrade from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307759
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
downgrade from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307759
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Hi,
For some reason, the RUU approach isn't working for me.
If I try using the util itself, it never sends the file to the Flyer. I've sourced the RUU from two different locations on the 'net, with the same result. I discovered that the ROM.ZIP in both wasn't a valid ZIP file so I couldn't try the misc_version method (*and* worryingly Kaspersky 2014 detects the misc_version file as Malware and deletes it so I'm concerned about that method anyway).
I've rooted and CFW'd three devices in the past (a G2 Touch, an SII and a TF301T) but this HTC Flyer is a pain in comparison (and I have a Desire HD to do next!).

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richych said:
Hi,
For some reason, the RUU approach isn't working for me.
If I try using the util itself, it never sends the file to the Flyer. I've sourced the RUU from two different locations on the 'net, with the same result. I discovered that the ROM.ZIP in both wasn't a valid ZIP file so I couldn't try the misc_version method (*and* worryingly Kaspersky 2014 detects the misc_version file as Malware and deletes it so I'm concerned about that method anyway).
I've rooted and CFW'd three devices in the past (a G2 Touch, an SII and a TF301T) but this HTC Flyer is a pain in comparison (and I have a Desire HD to do next!).
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did you unlocked the flyer via htc dev?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
---------- Post added at 07:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 PM ----------
or try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428104
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
did you unlocked the flyer via htc dev?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
---------- Post added at 07:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 PM ----------
or try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428104
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
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Yes, unlocked via HTC Dev then rooted by adding the Revolutionary CWM v4.0.1.4 recovery image.

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there is no malware on misc file you can use it and open the ruu wizard wait for couple seconds the take the rom.zip, be sure that you have at least 700 mb free memory on your pc before starting the ruu wizard.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
there is no malware on misc file you can use it and open the ruu wizard wait for couple seconds the take the rom.zip, be sure that you have at least 700 mb free memory on your pc before starting the ruu wizard.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
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Okay, I've followed the misc_version instructions (temporarily turned off Kaspersky so it wouldn't complain) and even though I have now relocked the bootloader etc. the RUU *still* doesn't do anything. It reboots the Flyer, but afterwards it just sits there and says it's sending but never does! There was an error that flashed up sometime during the 'adb' or 'adb shell' stuff - mentioning too many links - so maybe there's another issue somewhere?

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richych said:
Okay, I've followed the misc_version instructions (temporarily turned off Kaspersky so it wouldn't complain) and even though I have now relocked the bootloader etc. the RUU *still* doesn't do anything. It reboots the Flyer, but afterwards it just sits there and says it's sending but never does! There was an error that flashed up sometime during the 'adb' or 'adb shell' stuff - mentioning too many links - so maybe there's another issue somewhere?
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if you do all the steps from the links above it must work i dont know why you cant downgrade try puting the rom.zip on your sdcard and reboot to bootloader be sure that rom.zip is not corrupted and rename the rom.zip to PG41IMG.zip.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
if you do all the steps from the links above it must work i dont know why you cant downgrade try puting the rom.zip on your sdcard and reboot to bootloader be sure that rom.zip is not corrupted and rename the rom.zip to PG41IMG.zip.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
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I'd downloaded RUUs from different sites on the 'net and Windows reported the rom.zip they contained was duff. However, just tried testing one with 7zip and that reported the zip was fine (and I extracted it as a test), so for some reason my Windows 7 is unable to read the zip file correctly, which might explain why RUU was failing to work?
Anyway, I copied the RUUs resulting rom.zip file to the SD card and renamed it as suggested.
I ran misc_version via adb and set it with the correct RUU version (2.00.405.3) and then exited back to the command line, and told adb to reboot to bootloader. Bootloader loaded and checked the PG41IMG.zip file, and it then reports "Main Version is older! Update Fail!", which I expected misc_version to avoid?
(If I try 'adb reboot bootloader' from the # su prompt rather than exiting first, adb shell reports that it can't find the device. Is that relevant at all? I assumed you had to exit back to the Windows cmd prompt before doing 'adb reboot bootloader' (which works) but could that be where I'm going wrong?)
Just in case it's at all relevant, 'fastboot getvar all' tells me:
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.11.0011
(bootloader) version-baseband: 3822.10.08.07_M
(bootloader) version-cpld: None
(bootloader) version-microp: 0950
(bootloader) version-main: 3.55.405.1
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(bootloader) product: flyer
(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-7230
(bootloader) modelid: PG4110000
(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__016
(bootloader) battery-status: good
(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4191mV
(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic
(bootloader) security: on
(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP
(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: f0e1145e
(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 12
(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0
I'm using RUU_Flyer_HTC_WWE_2.00.405.3_R_Radio_20.3501.30.089BU_3809.05.04.10_M_release_194964_signed, which I am guessing would be the correct version as I think I need 405.3 to be able to then get S-OFF and upgrade to a newer OS.
The flyer is 3G and Wi-Fi, HBOOT 1.11.0011, running 3.55.405.1. It's on Talk Mobile (via Vodafone) for 3G data and the device seems to originate from South Africa rather than the UK, but I'm assuming WWE is going to be okay?

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did you installed recovery and su before trying to use the misc file?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
did you installed recovery and su before trying to use the misc file?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e
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Yes. The phone was unlocked, new recovery and rooted before I tried misc_version.

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i really dont know whats the problem
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
i really dont know whats the problem
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It's okay, you've been really helpful - and patient - so I'm really grateful for your suggestions. I thought I was getting close up until I got the old version problem!
I'll try again (and again) and see what happens.
Thanks anyway!

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richych said:
It's okay, you've been really helpful - and patient - so I'm really grateful for your suggestions. I thought I was getting close up until I got the old version problem!
I'll try again (and again) and see what happens.
Thanks anyway!
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Your welcome, i really want to help you but i cant figure out what is causing the problem.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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Bricked?
Unfortunately, something very odd has now happened to the HTC Flyer. It was left plugged in to my PC, slowly charging via USB.
We went out for part of the day, came back and the device is now caught in a perpetual loop. Screen goes off for about 7 seconds, then comes back on, stuck in FASTBOOT USB (if I'm connected via USB) or FASTBOOT AC (if I'm using a plug) for about 3 seconds before going off and then repeating the cycle. The power button flashes orange on/off throughout this loop.
I have noticed that apart from the usual info (e.g. S-ON, etc.), it also has one important addition underneath *** RELOCKED ***, which is:
*** Security Warning ***
The options I have are:
BOOTLOADER
REBOOT
REBOOT BOOTLOADER
POWER DOWN
As I only have 3 seconds, I don't have the time to select anything other than BOOTLOADER and the instant the HBOOT screen appears, the device starts the cycle again and I'm back to the beginning.
Any suggestions before I have to inform my sister-in-law that her flyer is now a brick?

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put the honeycomb rom on your sdcard and reinstall it.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e

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htcflyerhc said:
put the honeycomb rom on your sdcard and reinstall it.
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Hi,
Sorry to be a bit slow, but I need a few more details?
I've got a backup of my system (via Revolutionary recovery mode) from a few weeks ago. That presumably includes the Honeycomb ROM (the flyer was running 3.2.1), but how do I reinstall it when the Flyer is stuck in this loop?
The backup contains: boot.img, cache.img, data.img, nandroid.md5, recovery.img, system.img
The system.img file will be the ROM as it's 768MB.
I don't see how to get the Flyer to do anything whilst it's stuck like this. It doesn't switch on at all if it isn't plugged in (USB or AC) and it's in this loop if it is plugged in. I don't think it's charging the battery at all whilst it's in this loop, and the battery doesn't seem to have any charge if it's not plugged in!

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download the hc rom take the rom.zip and put in on the sdcard
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e