Metro PCS just announced the S5 without contract for $649.99. Since Metro PCS is now owned by T-Mobile I would assume that their S5 is the same as the T-Mobile S5 with the same LTE bands. Does anybody know this for sure. I am out of town and can't get to a Metro PCS store or a Best Buy to confirm.
I was actually wondering the same thing myself and have looked into it. Here's what I've come up with.
T-Mobile - http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TZKATMB
MetroPCS - http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TRKATMB
They are both listed as having the same bands and it seems implied they both fall under the SM-G900T. For rooting though it is listed separately as the SM-G900T1.
http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
That said, perhaps someone can explain any possible differences.
On a side note since I'm trying to figure out which one to buy here is a comparison I've come up with:
tmobile - 720 after tax - unlock after 40 days - 50 per month cheapest
metropcs - 700 after tax - unlock after 90 days - 40 per month cheapest
Thanks for the info. Now the question is which way to go.
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Im very interested in buying the MetroPCS model as BestBuy.com sells it at regular price and they have an awesome 18-Month no interest if you use their card. Enticing enough that i bought one and will be testing it out on AT&T use. Worst case scenario i return it...big deal.
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Im very interested in buying the MetroPCS model as BestBuy.com sells it at regular price and they have an awesome 18-Month no interest if you use their card. Enticing enough that i bought one and will be testing it out on AT&T use. Worst case scenario i return it...big deal.
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Keep us informed on how it works. I may buy one to after I get back home.
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Keep us informed on how it works. I may buy one to after I get back home.
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Best buy us closed today lol
Anyone try this yet?
I have a TMO Note 3 that works great on ATT after entering the unlock code.
This looks like a good way to get a device on ATT and not have to wait possibly forever LOL for the exploit/root/unlock bootloader, etc.
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Anyone try this yet?
I have a TMO Note 3 that works great on ATT after entering the unlock code.
This looks like a good way to get a device on ATT and not have to wait possibly forever LOL for the exploit/root/unlock bootloader, etc.
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Have one here, requested unlock code from cellunlocker.net. Got an email about 3 hours later that there's a delay and they need to check an alternative database.
I've read it's TMO and indeed it has wifi calling. As long as there are no issues with the unlock code (crosses fingers) I believe this should be a go just like my TMO note 3 on ATT. Have no problems using it whatsoever.
Updating in case anyone is interested.
Got my unlock code about three hours after yesterday's post.
Was able to unlock using deepfreeze code first, then network unlock code afterward!
I called ATT to switch a nano sim to a micro sim and mistakenly gave them the (Metro PCS) S5 IEMI! Don't do this as it will prevent LTE from working. I asked the associate if I could switch IEMIs and she said sure. I gave her the IEMI of my M8, restarted the phone and LTE is now working.
Just flashed TWRP and the Alliance Rom about an hour ago.
Running fine on ATT here with unlocked bootloader.
So if you're on ATT and want an S5 with an unlocked bootloader, this is probably the cheapest option outside of buying on swappa, etc.
I checked the APN settings in Google hangouts and it shows METROPCS as the selected APN, even though I am on a T MOBILE S5 And service.
What's weird is I never set up any APNs since having the phone so it must have came with those settings preinstalled.
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What's the model number of the MetroPCS S5?
So I got a metro PCs phone unlocked it at https://www.unlocklocks.com/
And now I have it on T-Mobile no problems what so ever
I used hangouts for SMS so the apns where there already
And in order to enable the built in hotspot without root I went into wireless connections and added the APN for T-Mobile by copying everything as it was on my note 3, and just like that hotspot is activated
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What's the model number of the MetroPCS S5?
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It's the same as tmobile I think, I'm using a metro pcs galaxy s5 and it says SM-G900T1
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Since there isn't a dedicated MetroPCS section due it being 99% compatible with TMO ROMs, etc. I'd like to post an issue here that I'm having with my S5 from MPCS in hopes someone else has found a resolution. The issue I'm having is getting a tethering "hack" to work with my service. Has anyone found one that works successfully for them? Thanks!
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Metro PCS just announced the S5 without contract for $649.99. Since Metro PCS is now owned by T-Mobile I would assume that their S5 is the same as the T-Mobile S5 with the same LTE bands. Does anybody know this for sure. I am out of town and can't get to a Metro PCS store or a Best Buy to confirm.
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Same phones since s3.
Same Lte.
Identical just metro has some metro apps.
If u buy metro you have to wait 90 days before they will unlock it .
T-mobile not sure
But u can pay to have it done .
I use t-mobile phones on metro all the time . But u can't use metro branded on t-mobile It's metro rules .
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sim unlock
I just got the S5 at Metro. Do I have to sim unlock to install roms. I have root and TWRP recovery already. Tried the Slim rom for Tmo and didn't have any service even after changing APN settings. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I know that this question has been asked before, and yes I did the research.
Basically I am wondering:
- Will the $15 "dumbphone unlimited AT&T data plan" work with T-Mobile Vibrant?
- Does it matter which Vibrant I get? I've heard from people, that I have to get i9000 to do this.. Will ANY T-Mobile Vibrant work with this?
> Can I unlock it myself or is it only specifically unlocked ones or what?
- I am in Bergen County (North New Jersey) area.. What kind of 3G do they use? WIll Vibrant 3G work with AT&T?
I know people have been doing it I am just curious if it STILL works.
In addition, I'm in Family Plan.. Primary line WAS iPhone 4 (I sold it today, which is why I'm considering Vibrant).
Will they make a huge fuss about me not having the iPhone 4 anymore and all that? I'm currently grandfathered under $30 data plan.
Thanks a lot in advance!!!
I don't think you can use the $15 unlimited plan with the vibrant but I'm 90% sure you can use the $30 unlimited plan. You need to have an unlocked vibrant. You should be able to get 3g with no problem because the vibrant supports 850 and 1900 3g bands but you may need to enable 850 in the settings. The i9000 can only get 1900 so I guess the vibrant would be a better choice. I don't what kind of 3g your area uses but you should be able to use it.
Thanks for reply
I know for a fact people have used their unlocked Vibrants on AT&T for $10 unlimited dumbphone if they have unlimited texting too or $15 without the texting
Curious if it STILL works and also what kind of Vibrant I need to get
Lastly if itll work in NJ area.
It's what I am using with my unlocked Vibrant
I am currently using the $10 data plan with the unlimited family texting option.
Unlocking is easy with this phone using the internal code procedure outlined on the Vibrant forum.
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I am currently using the $10 data plan with the unlimited family texting option.
Unlocking is easy with this phone using the internal code procedure outlined on the Vibrant forum.
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Awesome thanks A LOT for the info!
Just out of curiosity, what area are you in?
I'm in NJ/NY area.. You getting 3G right?
Thats what im interested in
altafur said:
I am currently using the $10 data plan with the unlimited family texting option.
Unlocking is easy with this phone using the internal code procedure outlined on the Vibrant forum.
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any chance you could link me to that internal code procedure
as im buying a vibrant today
Thanks
I can also confirm that the dumbphone data plan works for me. I have the $15/mo. one (since I don't have texting-I use Google Voice ) and 3G does indeed work but only with the 1900MHz band. To unlock, you can use this guide. There is also an app on the market that does it automatically I think.
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I can also confirm that the dumbphone data plan works for me. I have the $15/mo. one (since I don't have texting-I use Google Voice ) and 3G does indeed work but only with the 1900MHz band. To unlock, you can use this guide. There is also an app on the market that does it automatically I think.
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Does that guide result in the loss of your IMEI number, being replaced with a genric, like some methods did?
phantomsniper773 said:
I can also confirm that the dumbphone data plan works for me. I have the $15/mo. one (since I don't have texting-I use Google Voice ) and 3G does indeed work but only with the 1900MHz band. To unlock, you can use this guide. There is also an app on the market that does it automatically I think.
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Thanks for the link
had my new vibrant unlocked and running on ATT within minutes after getting
home with it
gotta say though its alot different flashing roms on the vibrant
then it is on my hd2 nandroid lol
No problems with the IMEI for me, even after flashing all sorts of ROMs based off the Vibrant, i9000, and CM7. Just make sure you back up the old nv_data.bin. Might as well back up the whole /efs folder while your at it.
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is anyone using the vibrant with the gophone $50 unlimited plan?
Does anyone know if it is possible to use the vibrant with the $50 unlimited gophone plan without having to buy a data package for smartphone?
If so it will be a great deal through callingmart. ($47.50 no taxes or fees)
jmlmrk said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to use the vibrant with the $50 unlimited gophone plan without having to buy a data package for smartphone?
If so it will be a great deal through callingmart. ($47.50 no taxes or fees)
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I'll just answer any future questions of this nature:
If you're not on T-Mobile, NO CARRIER WILL KNOW WHAT PHONE YOU'RE USING. The only way they can know is by deciphering your IMEI, which they will reference to the IMEI's in their database. This is why AT&T mentions unlocked Nokias being open to use the $10/$15 data plan: it's because AT&T has no idea what phone it is because Nokia did not give them IMEI's to these phones. If you have an AT&T branded phone, then of course AT&T will know the IMEI. If you have a T-Mobile/Cincinnati Bell/etc phone, they will have absolutely no idea what phone you're using.
So to answer your question: As far as AT&T's billing dept is concerned, you are not using a Vibrant. You are using an unlocked phone. No further questions. They might think you own the phone pictured below:
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I'll just answer any future questions of this nature:
If you're not on T-Mobile, NO CARRIER WILL KNOW WHAT PHONE YOU'RE USING. The only way they can know is by deciphering your IMEI, which they will reference to the IMEI's in their database. .......... <clip>.... If you have a T-Mobile/Cincinnati Bell/etc phone, they will have absolutely no idea what phone you're using.
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NOT True.
I formerly worked at T-Mobile in the Tier 2 PDA support department. While *some* unlocked phones would show up as unknown in our database, the majority of them showed their manufacturer and model numbers perfectly fine. I knew as soon as I pulled up the warranty tool (this is how we checked what phone you had) if you were running an iPhone, a Nokia N95 or any non-T-Mobile phone.
For example, I would have a lot of people call up and want to configure their "new iPhone" only to have to inform them that, sadly, they'd actually bought a "scIphone" (a Chinese knock-off)... These would actually show up, name & model number, in our database!
The reason the generic data works on many unlocked phones, is they don't program the networks to detect and require premium data on those models, since they are a small fraction of the phones in use, and to check against every phone made in the world would add to the overhead and reliability of the network.
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NOT True.
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I accept your response and conclude that I was less informed and am now more informed. Thanks for your input!
50 bucks a month unlimited everything tmobile
romanthedog said:
50 bucks a month unlimited everything tmobile
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That will be good if it worked.
I bought a vibrant after checking with T-mobile if I was covered (they say yes and that anyway there is no problem because I could roam on ATT network). It was a lie, no roaming on the $50 plan and no T-mobile network at all in my area. So I canceled and tried H2O (ATT network) and it works well where I live (with 3g) but I get just 100MB of data.
So I guess I am going with ATT pre-paid $50 unlimited...
Thanks everyone for the answers
so curious where you able to get the 50 unlimited everything to work? I just picked it up and data is a no go, i have a 3g connecion but i can't load pages. very irritating. anyone have any idea's?
To clarify as I am sure this question will get asked.
The VZW S4 is already unlocked for other SIMs (T-mobile verified - like the VZW GN2.
I haven't checked the Add APNs section under mobile network settings but assume it is there and working as it now does on the VZW GN2.
EDIT:
To access the Add APN menu you must have a SIM other than VZW in your phone.
Thanks astralentity for confirming.
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To clarify as I am sure this question will get asked.
The VZW S4 is already unlocked for other SIMs (T-mobile verified - like the VZW GN2.
I haven't checked the Add APNs section under mobile network settings but assume it is there and working as it now does on the VZW GN2.
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Well, You can see the APN's (LTE - Verizon Wireless) but hitting the settings button reveals that Add new access point is greyed out and not selectable.
Bummer.
yes. it is.
yyhd said:
yes. it is.
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What am I doing wrong then? I cannot select the option.
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What am I doing wrong then? I cannot select the option.
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I'm fairly certain he was answering the OP.
Probably need to install APN Manager Pro as a system app. That worked on the N2.
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New here, but I've been following the site for almost 3 years now.
I got my S4 yesterday, and I can confirm that with my AT&T microsim for GoPhone service, I was able to get HSPA+ without any software or hardware modifications. When you have a different SIM in your phone, you can add APN information. After I added the wap.cingular info, HSPA became HSPAP in the Status menu, and I had H+ on the notification bar.
I have no money in the GoPhone account right now, so I was unable to test the speeds on HSPA+. Verizon is still my primary service, the GoPhone is my emergency backup.
Hope this helps everyone! I can provide screenshots after when I get home and able to pop in the AT&T SIM.
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New here, but I've been following the site for almost 3 years now.
I got my S4 yesterday, and I can confirm that with my AT&T microsim for GoPhone service, I was able to get HSPA+ without any software or hardware modifications. When you have a different SIM in your phone, you can add APN information. After I added the wap.cingular info, HSPA became HSPAP in the Status menu, and I had H+ on the notification bar.
I have no money in the GoPhone account right now, so I was unable to test the speeds on HSPA+. Verizon is still my primary service, the GoPhone is my emergency backup.
Hope this helps everyone! I can provide screenshots after when I get home and able to pop in the AT&T SIM.
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Thanks for putting this topic at rest.
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Thanks for putting this topic at rest.
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No problem. I know this was quite a frustrating thing for the S3 owners. Glad I could be of help
Perfect!!! Explains why I could but add an APN because I did not have a non vzw SIM installed.
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What about international carriers? When I go to Europe next month can I just buy/rent a prepaid SIM and pop it in without alteration or would I need root and APN Manager?
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What about international carriers? When I go to Europe next month can I just buy/rent a prepaid SIM and pop it in without alteration or would I need root and APN Manager?
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I did not need root to add APN info. You should be good to go with international SIMs, since HSPA is available on all bands with this phone, with the possible exception of 1700.
What about that World Data plan that the verizon customer service been telling me all the time when I asked them if the phone would work outside US.
P.S. I'm aslo talking about a 200$ on contract version
FInally the thread I was looking for, i for one would like to see this thread keep active as I am thinking of purchasing a verizon S4 and want to know what prepaid and mvno options I have for it as well as what speeds. Sofar I see gophone im curious how it will work on tmobile and simple.
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FInally the thread I was looking for, i for one would like to see this thread keep active as I am thinking of purchasing a verizon S4 and want to know what prepaid and mvno options I have for it as well as what speeds. Sofar I see gophone im curious how it will work on tmobile and simple.
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The verizon version does not support the 1700 band (according to the Verizon website), so you would need to be in an area that has been upgraded to the 1900 band of hspa+.
Here's the info straight from Verizon;
Network
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
Hi all
I have a quick question under your APNs are you only seeing one line "Verizon LTE" as the only access point? I was messing around with my apns-conf file and I wanted to make sure I restored the right one. Does your screen look like this with a Verizon sim inside?
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So... no takers? Just want to know if my apns are correct
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Looks the same as mine.
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I will be traveling to Russia in two weeks. Will update either if it works or not over there...
Tw1ser said:
I will be traveling to Russia in two weeks. Will update either if it works or not over there...
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See if the GLONASS works on your phone too - I'm curious.
I just put down my $600, and didn't even think to whether it will be Verizon comparable... Any idea's. Is that duel LTE antenna our saving grace?
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Your saving grace might be the fast it is dual LTE but the page didn't say what bands. Hopefully with Verizon joining the canonical advisory group, UE will be one of Verizon's first LTE only devices
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They just added another Perk, if you missed the 600$ perk
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=home
"Recently, the company announced the first of its partner carriers, which includes Verizon, Deutsche Telecom, EE, SK Telecom, China Unicom and others"
From:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/22/ubuntu-edge-smartphone/
Hopefully this is a good sign right here. I got in on the $600 deal too.
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"Recently, the company announced the first of its partner carriers, which includes Verizon, Deutsche Telecom, EE, SK Telecom, China Unicom and others"
From:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/22/ubuntu-edge-smartphone/
Hopefully this is a good sign right here. I got in on the $600 deal too.
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Freaking Awesome, I know I read it would only be available for gsm networks, meaning ATT and Tmobile. As soon as i gave 600$ i emailed them asking if it was possible to ship phone for the Verizon network and I have yet to hear a response.
I think the biggest issue will be that alot of the telephone parts for CDMA carriers are closed sourced. This maybe a road block for it like it was for the few CDMA nexus devices and why there have not been any more.
Wayne Tech Nexus
My only concern is that given Verizon's attitude towards nexus devices this one would also be treated as such. Unless they make a deal where this would be a sort of trial run device and Ubuntu would be the one that does all the updates outside of Verizon.
ndude737 said:
My only concern is that given Verizon's attitude towards nexus devices this one would also be treated as such. Unless they make a deal where this would be a sort of trial run device and Ubuntu would be the one that does all the updates outside of Verizon.
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See that's where you run into the issue. Alot of the phone related stuff is proprietary software. And Ubuntu had a habit of open sourcing everything it can. It would also require a completely separate device. That is why most fully open devices are GSM only. As well as GSM being used by 90% of the world. Until Verizon starts using GSM it is gonna be hard on the open source community
Wayne Tech Nexus
Finally received a response from ubuntu about ubuntu edge being on verizon.
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Finally received a response from ubuntu about ubuntu edge being on verizon.
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Disappointing news.
Hmm, well this sucks. I'm on Verizon in the US. I wonder why the Engadget article would list Verizon as a supported carrier if it's not going to be compatible with CDMA in the US? Isn't that essentially what runs Verizon's network?
I contributed to the $625 perk this morning. Wondering if I need to start the refund process?
Verizon should be adding VoLTE to their network soonish... when they make this change is their a slim possibility of using this phone with their network?
Well if the LTE radios support band 13 and 4 (AWS) then the LTE should be able to work but thats not to say that Verizon won't block the device completely. I'm still going to maintain my pledge and see what comes as far as development. Worst comes to worse I will just return the device or use it on wifi only.
Well Mark Shuttleworth will be available for and Q&A today.
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Disappointing news.
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Not really,
You will be able to use T-mobile, Verizon and Sprint.
I am not 100% sure about AT&T
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Not really,
You will be able to use T-mobile, Verizon and Sprint.
I am not 100% sure about AT&T
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ATT and Tmobile are already stated. The CDMA carriers are not gonna by a sure thing.
Help spred the word!
https://www.thunderclap.it/en/projects/3486
It states very clearly here - http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge that Verizon LTE will be supported. So, when Verizon switches to VoLTE, which is supposed to be sometime in 2014, UE will be an option.
jaizero said:
It states very clearly here - http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge that Verizon LTE will be supported. So, when Verizon switches to VoLTE, which is supposed to be sometime in 2014, UE will be an option.
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Which means nothing. As long as CDMA devices still use closed sourced files you can forget about it. Maybe some day they will join the rest of the world and ditch the out dated systems.
Wayne Tech Nexus
zelendel said:
Which means nothing. As long as CDMA devices still use closed sourced files you can forget about it. Maybe some day they will join the rest of the world and ditch the out dated systems.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Once Verizon deploys VOLTE, it will have to accept any device capable of VOLTE on it's network. Same reason why the new Nexus 7 will work with Verizon LTE, even without CDMA radios.
Newbie here.....
I have a Verizon LG G3 that I am using with AT&T.
It works well but a couple of issues I'd like to address.
1) I only get H+ and would like to get LTE
2) I am having issues with sending & receiving mms messages where the pictures wont send if I'm on WiFi but send fine when I'm on the data network.
Is there any way to correct/ improve these issues?
Can I flash the stock AT&T rom on the Verizon phone and would it work?
Any help and/ or enlightenment is greatly appreciated.
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Newbie here.....
I have a Verizon LG G3 that I am using with AT&T.
It works well but a couple of issues I'd like to address.
1) I only get H+ and would like to get LTE
2) I am having issues with sending & receiving mms messages where the pictures wont send if I'm on WiFi but send fine when I'm on the data network.
Is there any way to correct/ improve these issues?
Can I flash the stock AT&T rom on the Verizon phone and would it work?
Any help and/ or enlightenment is greatly appreciated.
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oh you never flash att&t rom to this phone....and software wouldn't solve ur issue....you only get band 4 lte if im correct...and you never ever flash any rom other than a "vs985"
also..mms has to do with apn settings...
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the Verizon version has all the LTE bands as the AT&T version but just has them locked or deactivated somehow?
Is there any way to get LTE working for AT&T on the Verizon version?
jiml87 said:
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the Verizon version has all the LTE bands as the AT&T version but just has them locked or deactivated somehow?
Is there any way to get LTE working for AT&T on the Verizon version?
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i'm not sure on that..maybe someone else could tell you...i know its something about if you have band 4 in ur area you will get lte....dnt ask me what that means..im lucky i get 3g where im at
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oh you never flash att&t rom to this phone....and software wouldn't solve ur issue....you only get band 4 lte if im correct...and you never ever flash any rom other than a "vs985"
also..mms has to do with apn settings...
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I have the correct ATT apns and when I receive a MMS I have to turn off WiFi in order to download the picture. It has something to do with the phone
You will get LTE off AT&T (and T-Mobile) if they are using Band4 in your current area. In some areas they use a different band, maybe band 21 - I can't remember offhand. Our VS985 cannot use band21, it uses band 4 and band 13 for LTE though.
It has been figured out that it is also possible to enable Band3 LTE on the VS985, but that is only going to help in other countries, particularly France.
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I recently went through this. I was assured from att that I would get lte. Well, after days of trouble shooting with att and trying different hacks I could only get h+
I even went right next to a strong att tower area and still could not. For mms the only way I could get it to work was by using textra, which had a fix for mms by turning off wifi.
What I have learned is that there are some att bands that are locked out in the Verizon phone. There was an xda post that almost had it figured out but nobody could get it working.
H+ is pretty fast by the way, but I was unsatisfied so I am back on Verizon.
And also, do not ever flash anything other than a Verizon rom and radio.
jiml87 said:
Thanks for the info.
Do you know if the Verizon version has all the LTE bands as the AT&T version but just has them locked or deactivated somehow?
Is there any way to get LTE working for AT&T on the Verizon version?
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I would message @autoprime about this. He was recently working on unifying all G3 variants' modems since they all use the same radio with different bands unlocked. He may have a method to unlock the bands you need.
tatootie67 said:
I recently went through this. I was assured from att that I would get lte. Well, after days of trouble shooting with att and trying different hacks I could only get h+
I even went right next to a strong att tower area and still could not. For mms the only way I could get it to work was by using textra, which had a fix for mms by turning off wifi.
What I have learned is that there are some att bands that are locked out in the Verizon phone. There was an xda post that almost had it figured out but nobody could get it working.
H+ is pretty fast by the way, but I was unsatisfied so I am back on Verizon.
And also, do not ever flash anything other than a Verizon rom and radio.
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Not to rub it in but here's my Verizon g3 on LTE with Cricket which is prepaid ATT. I did nothing special just popped in my cricket sim card.
daniel4653 said:
Not to rub it in but here's my Verizon g3 on LTE with Cricket which is prepaid ATT. I did nothing special just popped in my cricket sim card.
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Hats off to you. Mind sharing the apn settings your using? Might help someone else
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Hats off to you. Mind sharing the apn settings your using? Might help someone else
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Did you make sure Band 4 was supported in your area? I know that's the only LTE band that is supported by the Verizon G3 variant.
The VErizon version uses only the Verizon modem (radio) firmware. It does not and cannot enable the ATT LTE bands.. Just so happens that one band is the same. For the rest you are out of luck. Read this for more information.
http://www.cnet.com/news/will-at-t-and-verizon-4g-lte-ever-be-compatible/
Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
I would like to know as well
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There may be a few issues as you noted in going the other way, but to my knowledge, once you get in carrier unlocked, it is possible and should work...
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ZDeuce2 said:
There may be a few issues as you noted in going the other way, but to my knowledge, once you get in carrier unlocked, it is possible and should work...
Common sense isn't all that common
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Isn't T-Mobile and Verizon two different types of technologies? Would that make a difference?
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Isn't T-Mobile and Verizon two different types of technologies? Would that make a difference?
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizon runs on CDMA and lte, tmo is GSM and lte... But most phone now by law must run on all available technologies... Bandwidth might be off a little, but for the most part have to be compatible... This is why, when in network settings, it gives options for CDMA, even though tmobile can't use it... It all has to do with the deregulation of cell service laws they passed a few years back... In layman's terms, they have to allow phones and networks to be compatible (1) for e911 services, and (2) for phone and carrier portability.
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Zdeuce2, WCDMA is not the same as CDMA. It is a 3G technology used on GSM networks. The CDMA equivalent is (was?)EV-DO and later, SV-DO.
Unless Verizon has moved on from CDMA as a whole for voice (they might have, I'm not sure) then compatibility will be questionable.
@ZDeuce2, what @LvDisturbed1 said.
WCDMA has nothing to do with Verizon's CDMA. WCDMA is one of the signaling technologies within the UMTS specification, old-school 3G stuff.
In the context of the radio mode selector on our phone, "WCDMA" denotes UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/HSPA+DC (basically anything that isn't GSM+GPRS/EDGE or LTE).
In other words, the selector values can be thought of as 2G ("GSM"), 3G ("WCDMA"), 4G ("LTE").
siraltus said:
@ZDeuce2, what @LvDisturbed1 said.
WCDMA has nothing to do with Verizon's CDMA. WCDMA is one of the signaling technologies within the UMTS specification, old-school 3G stuff.
In the context of the radio mode selector on our phone, "WCDMA" denotes UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/HSPA+DC (basically anything that isn't GSM+GPRS/EDGE or LTE).
In other words, the selector values can be thought of as 2G ("GSM"), 3G ("WCDMA"), 4G ("LTE").
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Well, then I was mistaken... Lol. Thank you for the corrections...
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The answer is yes, a T-Mobile LG V10 will work on Verizon. However, Verizon actively black lists any phone that is not purchased directly through Verizon. Purchasing an iPhone at an Apple store often runs into this exact same issue. Verizon's poorly trained customer service reps are unaware that Verizon has transitioned to all calls, text and data across LTE in major cities and most outlying areas and insists that the T-Mobile H901 must run on CDMA to connect (false), H901 is not compatible simply because the Verizon employee is told to say so by corporate.
I had filed a complaint with the FCC. Verizon issued a generic response saying that all of "Verizon's" phones are unlocked from purchase and that only approved Verizon devices will function on their network. The FCC was satisfied with this generic response and closed the case. If the FCC continues to receive these complaints, eventually they will make a move in our favor.
BrettFavor said:
Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
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You're on the updated marshmellow Verizon V10 than id assume? Since root was achieved for the Verizon v10 but only for LP.
BrettFavor said:
Topic.
I know the reverse is true. Verizon LG v10 comes unlocked and putting in a T-Mobile sim card works. I have heard people having small issues with 4G LTE calls or extra battery usage, but everything works as both phones share all the same bands except for one.
I love the LG v10, but not having root is driving me a little mad. I've never not had a rooted phone since I got my first smartphone the original Motorola Droid with the slide-out keyboard (and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon on the Verizon version, if ever). Although LG has a TON of customization stock, I miss the little extras root gives you. At this point I'd be fine with just root access and not even worry about custom roms or kernels.
I'd like to sell my Verizon LG v10 and buy the T-mobile LG v10 H901 so I can have the best of both worlds.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
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No, it is not possible, because the T-mobile variant does not have CDMA modem/radio.
Not possible, as others have stated, if it was a Verizon on T-mobile yes because it has both CDMA & GSM radios, T-mobile variant is lacking that CDMA radio.