Psa: DO NOT TAKE OTAs after updating to kitkat leak (nc2) - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
If you've installed the new Kitkat leak for the Verizon Note 3 (and you really really should install it -- see below for reasons why):
MAKE SURE YOU NEVER TAKE ANY OTA.
Here is a brief (and yet startling) list of advantages to the leaked Kitkat build that could be done away with in ANY future OTA for the Note 3:
At anytime you can use ODIN to go back to 4.3 for root, disaster recovery etc.
This leaked Kitkat build allows for *ANY* compatible kernel module to be used. Unlike any previous Note 3 build ever. No whitelist security is in place to block kernel modules which are not "approved". (pointed out by @ryanbg)
It's Kitkat but SElinux permissive. Also very very rare.
There are so many unique things about this build, that every user who installs it should treat it like gold and avoid OTAs like the plague.
For more information on the leak:
http://sxtpdevelopers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-verizon/
How to maintain root and use the leaked files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2726558
And a new Safestrap for use with the new KK build (you'll need a 4.3 compatible Safestrap for the root process and a 4.4 compatible Safestrap for use after upating):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517610
If you ever get a chance make sure to send thanks over to sxtpdevelopers (I don't think he has an XDA username anymore).

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This Was Definetly an Amazing Find!!

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Thanks Hash!
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What's the advantage of kernel modules?
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So, help me understand this. Any kernel module? Does that mean... It works as a Dev version would? Any aosp / ge ROM would work eventually?
Same kind of process? Still not a true unlocked boatloader though?

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Borderpatrol1987 said:
What's the advantage of kernel modules?
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Interaction with kernel and system resources.

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BossJ said:
So, help me understand this. Any kernel module? Does that mean... It works as a Dev version would? Any aosp / ge ROM would work eventually?
Same kind of process? Still not a true unlocked boatloader though?
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this is a possibility, kernel modules being enabled makes it so kexec can work which then means aosp roms could work as well..
although alot of work has to be done to get kexec working on the note3. ALOT. but the hole for it is officially there

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To make sure I understand, does this mean that when 4.4.3 is released, we can pull the info for the nxp nfc hce and make it work before Verizon/Samsung do?
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BeansTown106 said:
this is a possibility, kernel modules being enabled makes it so kexec can work which then means aosp roms could work as well..
although alot of work has to be done to get kexec working on the note3. ALOT. but the hole for it is officially there
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I feel like we are in the Droid Bionic days again God I love you guys!
Donations to all of you!
Hash: Confirmation number: ****7608N7815035E
Beans: Confirmation number: ****1220MF354073B
Bajasur: Confirmation number: ****5071CG663842F
If I missed someone let me know!

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How do we block ota updates? Installed everything no issues. Thanks guys!! Almost have a Dev edition. Well feels like it to me.
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GreenGoblin227 said:
How do we block ota updates? Installed everything no issues. Thanks guys!! Almost have a Dev edition. Well feels like it to me.
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Freeze/delete SDM
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What do you think about the chance of unlocked bootloader?
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RayMcGrath said:
What do you think about the chance of unlocked bootloader?
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...a little better. But don't get your hopes up. little better than slim or none isn't too good. Lets see what happens when the smarter people look deeper into this! Then I'll start thinking of doing happy-dances.
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It seems taking OTA updates won't be much an issue: Software Update can't connect to the Verizon Software Update servers.
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Now only if we can get that stupid 3G/LTE icon to go away when WiFi is connected

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So what kernel options do we have!? Not sure which are for this 4.4.2 build. (BTW is Running awesome! )
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rclar144 said:
So what kernel options do we have!? Not sure which are for this 4.4.2 build. (BTW is Running awesome! )
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Hopefully any kernal used with the t mobile as you could do that with the dev editon.
Although I'm not sure, so wait for official words from the devs.

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@Hashcode @BeansTown106 Something to keep an eye out for; the rollback protection counters have two numbers, a major version and a minor version. The minor version tends to get overlooked very quickly. Luckily with this build, our minor version was the same, in addition to our major version, so we could downgrade. We may get an OTA that has a SW_ID flag like this
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SW_ID:0000000[B]2[/B]0000000[B]9[/B]
The 2 is the major version, while the 9 is the minor version. The minor version could be up one increment, even if the major version is the same, and we won't be able to downgrade. The minor version I've been told is stored on RPMB and major version is stored in eFuse(?) which is apparently differentiated from QFPROM. Still looking into that, but be weary even if any future updates look downgrade-able. Ensure both numbers are the same before any OTA/update if you want to downgrade.

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ryanbg said:
@Hashcode @BeansTown106 Something to keep an eye out for; the rollback protection counters have two numbers, a major version and a minor version. The minor version tends to get overlooked very quickly. Luckily with this build, our minor version was the same, in addition to our major version, so we could downgrade. We may get an OTA that has a SW_ID flag like this
Code:
SW_ID:0000000[B]2[/B]0000000[B]9[/B]
The 2 is the major version, while the 9 is the minor version. The minor version could be up one increment, even if the major version is the same, and we won't be able to downgrade. The minor version I've been told is stored on RPMB and major version is stored in eFuse(?) which is apparently differentiated from QFPROM. Still looking into that, but be weary even if any future updates look downgrade-able. Ensure both numbers are the same before any OTA/update if you want to downgrade.
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Thanks for the heads up

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tokan_one said:
Now only if we can get that stupid 3G/LTE icon to go away when WiFi is connected
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Try Xposed Module "Samsung Data Connection Icon[1.0]". It solved that problem for me.
I tried to post as a hyperlink to the website but was unable to due to being a new member. If you Google "net.thinkindifferent.dataconnectioniconfix" it should be the first result.

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Borderpatrol1987 said:
Freeze/delete SDM
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Is that all? I seem to remember an updater.apk or something like that that also needs to be frozen? What is the path to SDM?
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