Hi,
Because my HTC Evo 3D is gone for repairs it will (hopefuly) return fixed and most probably updated to stock ICS with hboot 1.53.0007. Previously I've used HTCdev to unlock the bootloader and install 4ext recovery, then the Wire Trick to get S-off and finally this guide to downgrade to hboot 1.49.0007
Before sending the mobile for repairs, I've reverted it as close to stock as possible, using the method described here. One of the steps required extracting ROM.zip from RUU exe file, renaming it to PG86IMG.zip and installing in fastboot.
Now my question is... With a "fresh" phone (ICS, S-on, locked), will it be possible to install PG86IMG.zip extracted from Gingerbread RUU in fastboot? If this way works, it would downgrade hboot to 1.49.0007 and then allow me to use Revolutionary to get the phone Unlocked and S-off (instead of the HTCDev + Juopunutbear + hboot downgrade combination).
Will this work or will it fail? If the latter, is there a chance of bricking the device?
I'm sorry if my question is noobish, but I'm still very new to all the HTC hboot, S-on/S-off and fastboot stuff...
Best regards,
Crocodil
Crocodilek said:
Hi,
Because my HTC Evo 3D is gone for repairs it will (hopefuly) return fixed and most probably updated to stock ICS with hboot 1.53.0007. Previously I've used HTCdev to unlock the bootloader and install 4ext recovery, then the Wire Trick to get S-off and finally this guide to downgrade to hboot 1.49.0007
Before sending the mobile for repairs, I've reverted it as close to stock as possible, using the method described here. One of the steps required extracting ROM.zip from RUU exe file, renaming it to PG86IMG.zip and installing in fastboot.
Now my question is... With a "fresh" phone (ICS, S-on, locked), will it be possible to install PG86IMG.zip extracted from Gingerbread RUU in fastboot? If this way works, it would downgrade hboot to 1.49.0007 and then allow me to use Revolutionary to get the phone Unlocked and S-off (instead of the HTCDev + Juopunutbear + hboot downgrade combination).
Will this work or will it fail? If the latter, is there a chance of bricking the device?
I'm sorry if my question is noobish, but I'm still very new to all the HTC hboot, S-on/S-off and fastboot stuff...
Best regards,
Crocodil
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With s-on, RUU won't work
donkeykong1 said:
With s-on, RUU won't work
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Thank you, that's all I needed to know I guess I will use the same method I did previously
Crocodilek said:
Thank you, that's all I needed to know I guess I will use the same method I did previously
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Yes, but if you left your phone s-off you could get it back s-off. Then you can do the RUU thing. AFAIK service won't touch s-off unless they change the motherboard
It will fail because the main version of the Gingerbread ROM is lower than your current ROM
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donkeykong1 said:
Yes, but if you left your phone s-off you could get it back s-off. Then you can do the RUU thing. AFAIK service won't touch s-off unless they change the motherboard
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Well, the touchscreen in lower bottom of the screen has stopped working and the phone is still on warranty, so I've reverted it to stock ICS + s-on + "Relocked" (didn't find any way to get back to "Locked"). This way there's a better chance that they will do the repair on warranty but I've read different reports about the Polish HTC certificated repair service... Sometimes they void warranty for using HTCdev unlock even if a problem is clearly with hardware (like in my case).
I hope that my EVO does get repaired as I've really enjoyed using it with CM11...
I don't unlock the phone, I use Ultimate recovery tool to downgrade hboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653777
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jcfunk said:
I don't unlock the phone, I use Ultimate recovery tool to downgrade hboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1653777
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I did see this method before (one of the 2 hboot downgrade options I could find), but the step of "intentionally bricking" my device made me too nervous to try it But I might use the tool once I get my mobile back
lol, scares every one. But it was the frist way to downgrade
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Use the firmware zip from OTA 2.95 makes it easy to do.
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I recently Upgraded got the HTC Evo 3D so i decided i was going to root the Phone. I notice going to Revolutionary the Hboot I have its not selected I have 1.50 I think I have updated software like a dummy through sprint OTA I seen their was and RUU file to downgrade back to 1.40 is it safe to do so.
Go here: LINK
Downgrade your HBoot and get back to 1.40.
Why don't you just root without downgrading?
iTzLOLtrain said:
Why don't you just root without downgrading?
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he is right....yuoi can root in hboot 1.5....you only need to go to hboot 1.4 if you want to obtain S-off rights.....
iTzLOLtrain said:
Why don't you just root without downgrading?
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After a while of having to use the flash image gui app, it gets pretty annoying not being able to use Nandroid backups. That is why i am trying to downgrade myself.
Makes sense. Then check out the link vdubtx posted.
I would like to have S-Off instead of s-On
wloftus said:
he is right....yuoi can root in hboot 1.5....you only need to go to hboot 1.4 if you want to obtain S-off rights.....
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You can root, but you also forfeit your warranty to HTC by doing HTC Unlock, that code that you use to unlock it, gives them your device info, including serial number and when you bring it to sprint for repair, they can just look it up and see that you've rooted and voided your warranty.
Any files will work what is the latest 1
none of the RUU working do I have to format my SD card and I am trying to downgrade back to 1.40 which RUU file is i am clueless please help thanks I want S-off
I notice i have 2.17.651.5 already I seen that in the file which RUU file I need to downgrade to HBoot 1.40 please _2.08.651.2 i rem seeing that before my phone got that OTA by mistake.
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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You can brick your device!
Forgive my ignorance, but if you are s-off, why would you want to do this? I thought 1.5 s-off was just as good as1.4 s-off.
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When set at 1.5 you cant change the splash screen or radio. or other settings.
Also Bricking it is what I need to do to convert it to 1.4 BUT I cant to that until I have S-ON. Correct?
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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^Exactly this. If you read the first post of that thread (especially the gigantic red letters and what is under that), it will tell you to NOT brick an S-off phone as it will permanently brick it. You just need to flash the 1.4 bootloader.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
alexjzim said:
i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
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Ya I didn't even think about revolutionary only working with 1.4 or below that must be the problem. You are welcome for the help, I just figured most of this out about a week ago when I had to do the downgrade after unlocking with htc method.
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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kiewee3 said:
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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You have to HTC Unlock the device first, then do the fastboot oem lock (if you don't it will say "Device was already locked!" message)
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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If you are S-OFF you can flash any bootloader you want...no need to go back to S-on....I found a few bootloader versions on here and flashed them back and forth when trying different roms.....once your S-OFF you should never return...lol
I was thinking of taking it to Sprint for a replacement cuz of 4G not working, but then I thought, WHEN ON EARTH do I use 4G??? LOL It's always off...
I had my HTC amaze unlocked with s-off and a modded hboot I then updated to a new ICS firmware to run ICS however when the firmware flashed to my phone it locked my phone and reset my hboot but still kept s-off. Is there anyway to unlock my phone again? If anyone has any help please let me know I already tried to unlock it through HTdev website and it did not work!!!
If you are s=off, then you don't need to unlock your bootloader. I'm assuming you have eng bootloader, and with that, you don't need to unlock anything.
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pharmhand said:
I had my HTC amaze unlocked with s-off and a modded hboot I then updated to a new ICS firmware to run ICS however when the firmware flashed to my phone it locked my phone and reset my hboot but still kept s-off. Is there anyway to unlock my phone again? If anyone has any help please let me know I already tried to unlock it through HTdev website and it did not work!!!
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HTC dev website is the way i did it, and it worked perfect for me. What method did you use that didn't allow you to unlock your phone?
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If any of you read correctly, he said he unlocked it before, therefore, all he has to do is place the unlock_code file in hasoon's tool's data folder and run the unlock bootloader option, voila he's back to being unlocked, though the relocking sounds kind of odd, but it could probably be due to the hboot he was using, I'm guessing was Juopunutbear's or something.
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If any of you read correctly, he said he unlocked it before, therefore, all he has to do is place the unlock_code file in hasoon's tool's data folder and run the unlock bootloader option, voila he's back to being unlocked, though the relocking sounds kind of odd, but it could probably be due to the hboot he was using, I'm guessing was Juopunutbear's or something.
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I did read it, the old unlock bin does not work with new ics so he has to redo everything once more....
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Well my old unlock bin worked fine for me re-unlocking on ICS, guess I was lucky, okay cool, my bad.
Yes I had hboot from Juopunutbear when I did the s-off it asked to install his hboot but after I upgraded it changed my hboot back to 1.93.0002 and it is SHIP s-off not eng which I am not totally sure what the difference is but is there a way to change SHIP back to ENG????? I am going to give HTCdev another chance and see what happens... thanks for the input and help
ok so I just tried HTCdev again and it unlocked my phone however it did a hard reset the only thing I have to do now is to have eng s-off instead of ship s-off.
pharmhand said:
ok so I just tried HTCdev again and it unlocked my phone however it did a hard reset the only thing I have to do now is to have eng s-off instead of ship s-off.
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Just flash the eng hboot via bootloader, though you don't need to, unless you plan to do fastboot commands, which the average user doesn't have much need for, hasoon's tool does everything you need, recovery, root, etc, though I do recommend 4EXT recovery, which you can easily install after obtaining root.
Hey! A while ago I rooted my phone using the revolutionary method. Later I reverted back to stock and locked the bootloader. However the S-OFF remained. A few minutes ago I had 1.53 HBOOT and ICS stock. But now I got HBOOT 1.49.0007 and I wanna use revolutionary tool to unlock bootloader yet again. But now it gives me an error saying, "Failed to get root! "
Is there another way to get rooted WITHOUT using the HTC method since I already got S-OFF and 1.49.0007 HBOOT? I don't feel comfortable using HTC's method....
Martaan said:
Hey! A while ago I rooted my phone using the revolutionary method. Later I reverted back to stock and locked the bootloader. However the S-OFF remained. A few minutes ago I had 1.53 HBOOT and ICS stock. But now I got HBOOT 1.49.0007 and I wanna use revolutionary tool to unlock bootloader yet again. But now it gives me an error saying, "Failed to get root! "
Is there another way to get rooted WITHOUT using the HTC method since I already got S-OFF and 1.49.0007 HBOOT? I don't feel comfortable using HTC's method....
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I think the "Failed to get root!" message is because HTC patched the tacoroot exploit in the ICS builds that was being used for temp root with the GB builds.
Why do you want to unlock the bootloader? If you want to run the additional fastboot commands you should be able to just flash the JBear version of the current bootloader, or does that cause problems on the GSM model?
ramjet73
Since you are S-OFF you can flash whatever bootloader you want. I don't know revolutionary method, I was using jbear to get S-OFF. After S-OFF i flashed RUU and I was on stock 1.53.007 locked bootloader with S-OFF and i couldn't root my phone. I've flashed hboot from this site:
http://unlimited.io/jbhboots.htm
There you have 2 versions of GSM Evo 3d hboots. After that you can do everything with your phone. Good luck!
c000ler said:
Since you are S-OFF you can flash whatever bootloader you want. I don't know revolutionary method, I was using jbear to get S-OFF. After S-OFF i flashed RUU and I was on stock 1.53.007 locked bootloader with S-OFF and i couldn't root my phone. I've flashed hboot from this site:
http://unlimited.io/jbhboots.htm
There you have 2 versions of GSM Evo 3d hboots. After that you can do everything with your phone. Good luck!
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I contacted unlimited.io's support in the IRC and downloaded the ICS HBOOT - 1.53.5353 and flashed that. Now it seemes to work!
Anyway, thanks for your answer! If they wouldn't have responded then you would have been my savior!
Okay, problem number two.... I have flashed CWM now and I installed Super User inside recovery mode but I don't get root access? I downloaded the signed package from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991929
Any ideas?
I have tried to repair premissions after the install of Super User. I have also updates Super User from Market after Install due to force close after the fresh install from CWM
Link you gave leads to this topic Go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743466
Follow method B (steps 1 to 14 if you want to be on rooted stock) and it should be ok. If I remember correctly, there is a 4ext recovery to download, maybe try this one. Good luck!
I have my EVO HBOOt 1.53 (JopunutBear) S-off stock 4.0 rom. Now when i flash jb or ics custom roms i get a bootlop.
What can i do?
So have i to downgrade to hboot 1.49? If yes how to do this.
Yes i tried severyl things like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=10 [ bootloader doesnt find pg86img.zip]
and other s-off guides but nothing really works
Thanks for help
Are you putting the pg file in the root of your sdcard or in a separate file folder?
( Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh! )
yes i put it in root. how big is the rigt pg file. i have one with about 324kb and one with about 300mb
luisniklas said:
yes i put it in root. how big is the rigt pg file. i have one with about 324kb and one with about 300mb
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That one with about 384 kB. Then, turn off your phone, turn it on in bootloader (volume down + power on). Wait a little and it will ask you to update. Press volume up, and wait. After that you have to delete that PG file from sd card. (that pg 300 MB has a rom on it..thats why it is so big)
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If the bootloader doesn't find the zip, make sure it's named PG86IMG.zip (capitalization as is) and make sure there is no double zip extension.
Here my BL. It Doesnt find the small PG file.
Does it something has to do with my JoupunutBear HBOOT 1.52.7777
Are there other ways to downgrade hboot with s-off?
Can i flash JoupunutBear HBOOT 1.49 from unlimited.io?
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If you can boot into your ROM then just check whether your phone is recognizing data on your sdcard. Sometimes after the wire trick sdcards tend to flip out. Your pc might be detecting it fine but the phone might not. Just humor me and try playing a song or something from the card just to rule out this possibility
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i will try this. is hboot downgarde the only way to get custom roms working?
EDIT:SD works
What about cid for pg file? i have htc_102. i tried fastboot oem writecid 1111111 and htc_01 but nothing changed.
Cid shouldn't be a problem with the zip from that thread. Try running an RUU and then downgrading hboot
EM|NEM said:
Cid shouldn't be a problem with the zip from that thread. Try running an RUU and then downgrading hboot
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A ics ruu? How too downgrade then?
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Solved it. Only flahed JB hb0ot 1.49 Form unlimited.io
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I have the same problem as you and I had. I need help, step by step. Do you just use HBOOT 1:49 and below = Gingerbread or you first installed the GB ruu, etc..
MeisterRoerich said:
I have my EVO HBOOt 1.53 (JopunutBear) S-off stock 4.0 rom. Now when i flash jb or ics custom roms i get a bootlop.
What can i do?
So have i to downgrade to hboot 1.49? If yes how to do this.
Yes i tried severyl things like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172&page=10 [ bootloader doesnt find pg86img.zip]
and other s-off guides but nothing really works
Thanks for help
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If you are still having issues let me know. I have recently had the same problem as yourself.
With hboot 1.53 you can only run ICS ROMs but if you are not able to run ICS either I would use a 4EXT recovery then enable smart flash (I know this should only matter when s-on is worth a go) Also use fastboot to flash the boot.img from what ever ROM you have chosen just incase it's an issue with that.
PG86img.zip files are CID specific and need to be for your location and carrier (from my understanding) unless you have a super CID which is 11111111 (denoting a factory unlocked device, but don't quote me)
I too have a 1.53.0007 hboot and also am having trouble finding a solution to hboot changes once you are s-off with that hboot. How I got that hboot after gaining s-off is beyond me but it seems I am not alone and if that hboot can be put in it HAS to be able to change it. The easiest way that I can think of is to gain s-on (I haven't looked hard enough for that yet though) then to s-off again and make the hboot update that way.
by the way (now I can't find it's exact meaning and am choked) I was really surprised that the beer reference had more than just a catchy ring to it. Engineering something or other, I shoulda wrote it down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
the PG86IMG in this thread is compatible with all CIDs. as long as you are s-off you can change your hboot easily using this thread
EM|NEM said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
the PG86IMG in this thread is compatible with all CIDs. as long as you are s-off you can change your hboot easily using this thread
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Thank you so much. And now I'm able to flash jellybean ROMs I think I'll stick with the ICS one I am using (King Cobra, I think could be Cool though) as it is great on batteries and everything works great. And I get to freak people out with the creepy 3d camera. lol.
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If you are still having issues let me know. I have recently had the same problem as yourself.
With hboot 1.53 you can only run ICS ROMs but if you are not able to run ICS either I would use a 4EXT recovery then enable smart flash (I know this should only matter when s-on is worth a go) Also use fastboot to flash the boot.img from what ever ROM you have chosen just incase it's an issue with that.
PG86img.zip files are CID specific and need to be for your location and carrier (from my understanding) unless you have a super CID which is 11111111 (denoting a factory unlocked device, but don't quote me)
I too have a 1.53.0007 hboot and also am having trouble finding a solution to hboot changes once you are s-off with that hboot. How I got that hboot after gaining s-off is beyond me but it seems I am not alone and if that hboot can be put in it HAS to be able to change it. The easiest way that I can think of is to gain s-on (I haven't looked hard enough for that yet though) then to s-off again and make the hboot update that way.
by the way (now I can't find it's exact meaning and am choked) I was really surprised that the beer reference had more than just a catchy ring to it. Engineering something or other, I shoulda wrote it down
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I just flashed hboot from joupnut bear
MeisterRoerich said:
I just flashed hboot from joupnut bear
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I am assuming that your phone wasn't S-OFF at the time? I accidentally tried to S-OFF one of my EVO 3Ds (GSM) that was already S-OFF at the time and I got a "WOW!!! What are you doing. Your phone appears to be S-OFF already. Doing so again could result in impotence, and death" or words to that effect. Basically a gaudy do you want your phone to die type of a message. If your device was S-OFF to begin with I was not aware that you could use Juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT version without going through the whole S-OFF process. Can you give some more details as to your phones state (i.e., HBOOT version, S-ON or S-OFF, etc...) before you used juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT. Thanks
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I am assuming that your phone wasn't S-OFF at the time? I accidentally tried to S-OFF one of my EVO 3Ds (GSM) that was already S-OFF at the time and I got a "WOW!!! What are you doing. Your phone appears to be S-OFF already. Doing so again could result in impotence, and death" or words to that effect. Basically a gaudy do you want your phone to die type of a message. If your device was S-OFF to begin with I was not aware that you could use Juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT version without going through the whole S-OFF process. Can you give some more details as to your phones state (i.e., HBOOT version, S-ON or S-OFF, etc...) before you used juopunutupbear to change the HBOOT. Thanks
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I s-OFFed my phone (Hboot 1.53 or sth.) with jouponut bear and then i flashed hboot 1,49.999 fro here: http://unlimited.io/jbhboots.htm
There is a thread about how exacly you can downgrade your hboot, maybe could be better explained but study the forum a bit more... I also had that problem and after two days searching and downloading all kinds of files I did it...
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