Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
Have you had a change to play with other new smartphones? How do you feel about them?
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I find your claim about battery life a little hard to believe. The Z2 has WAY bigger battery and your S2's battery has had plenty of time to deteriorate. Again, not to be hostile but rather interested, could you post screenshots of battery stats after a normal day of use (both phones)?
Now of course I know hardly anything about custom roms that prolong battery life, but still...
strommy1966 said:
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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Get rid of that Task Killer, it's the ultimate in battery draining apps. Closing and relaunching apps that could simply sit in RAM? Not helpful.
The Z2 has 3GB of RAM and a stamina mode that can be set to only allow specific apps to run when the screen is off, as well as control mobile data. You'll need another week to use it to its full potential.
I'm a fairly heavy user, streaming Spotify 5 hours a day, watching TV 3 hours a day, Netflix for 1hour, 4K recording, take on average 10 pics a day and Snapchat/Whatsapp 10 hours across my day and still get home with plenty of battery.
Even today, removed from charge at 6.30am, still off charge at 10.38pm and I've 27% left.
Screen on time is at 4hours 35minutes.
Not disappointed at all.
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Get rid of that Task Killer, it's the ultimate in battery draining apps. Closing and relaunching apps that could simply sit in RAM? Not helpful.
The Z2 has 3GB of RAM and a stamina mode that can be set to only allow specific apps to run when the screen is off, as well as control mobile data. You'll need another week to use it to its full potential.
I'm a fairly heavy user, streaming Spotify 5 hours a day, watching TV 3 hours a day, Netflix for 1hour, 4K recording, take on average 10 pics a day and Snapchat/Whatsapp 10 hours across my day and still get home with plenty of battery.
Even today, removed from charge at 6.30am, still off charge at 10.38pm and I've 27% left.
Screen on time is at 4hours 35minutes.
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WOWWW!!!! That's one hell of a battery performance test :good:
Coming from the LG G2 I was expecting to be dissapointed, but Im not, I Love it. The screen is absolutely amazing, the sound quality is supurb!!
Battery life, wow! After the battery life on the.G2 blew me away, I did not think anything could match it, but it does!
See screen shots. This is a above normal day use. Has included music, video, youtube, internet, facebook, camera, games.
Edit: this is with stamina mode on all day.
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I have had Z2 in 2 days now. I have owned Galaxy Note 2 and Note 3 before and now Z2, i found Z2's screen brighter enough and i am actually happy with the screen. I hated the screen on Z1 though which i got for some days in between Note 2 and Note 3.
When it comes to 'Tap to wake' feature. Here's a proof how accurate it is on my Z2: http://youtu.be/qdQz42pDIao (I made the video right now with Note 3)
Strange you can't see letters when the text is large. I have text on small and i am so happy with it. See the pictures below. (You can change theme also).
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
I wish it was 5.5 instead of 5.2...
The custom ROM stuff I quit after I got the Z1. Too much time spent on that with very few benefits. Personally, I rather have the magnetic charging cable.
This all comes to personal preferences. Sony like the other guys tries to appeal to as many as possible...
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Coming from the LG G2 I was expecting to be dissapointed, but Im not, I Love it. The screen is absolutely amazing, the sound quality is supurb!!
Battery life, wow! After the battery life on the.G2 blew me away, I did not think anything could match it, but it does!
See screen shots. This is a above normal day use. Has included music, video, youtube, internet, facebook, camera, games.
Edit: this is with stamina mode on all day.
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Good on Sony for sizing their battery, I owned Samsung S2, S4 and S3, the battery with never lasted more than 5 hour of screen on. where my Z1 easily last me more than 8 hours. A potential Z2 user when the phone can be rooted with locked bootloader. I still preferred 4.3 jelly beans compared to 4.4.2 kitKat. I will not using/buying any Samsung phone in future when they introduced knox which was useless to me.
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I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
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The Z2 has a magnetic charging port, you never need to undo the flaps to charge it.
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The Z2 has a magnetic charging port, you never need to undo the flaps to charge it.
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This. I feel like this is one of the best features of this phone. I've heard so many complaints about annoying USB-port cover.
I have to call your bluff regarding the S2 battery life. It cannot compare at all to the Z2. The S2 battery was horrible for me, even though mine was also rooted and all. In fact, it was the only phone I ever have to buy an extended battery and it still barely lasted me a day. Note2 was so much better than the S2 and Z2 beats the Note2. So no way I am going to believe your S2 can return a better battery life than the Z2.
Battery is amazing, this was my second full charge cycle. Note my sim wasn't activated, so no cellular signal/connection. According to gsam, it used a fair amount of battery looking for signal, so should be better now.
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Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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I think you were expecting to much lol..... seriously tho i had samsungs before this, galaxy s then a galaxy note now z2, im loving this phone, ok its not perfect but its not far off and im far from dissapointed, in fact im rather pleased, i tried recording in 4k yesterday, purely because i knew it would make my phone overheat and crash after about 5 mins....... unlike most people i made it past 5 minutes (only by 3 seconds tho) and it actually saved the video...... think i got a good one lol.
Yeah the speakers aint the loudest but the noise cancelling headphones and the bluetooth speaker i got with it more than make up for that. Screen is fine outside, maybe the viewing angle aint as good as the samsungs but its good enough. (On the plus side i work nights so wouldnt be bothered if it was dim anyway)
Battery??????????? Ummmmm you're doing something wrong, for me battery life is much better than any phone ive had before.... ive experianced that with the 'tap to wake' function too, i wouldnt say ive ever had to tap it harder, just doesnt always wake straight away.
in the 2 years since i got my galaxy note i didnt feel the samsung phones were offering anything more, sure id get more ram, bigger processor n bigger screen, but thats about it, the xperia on the other hand seemed to offer far more for me, than the note or any samsung since the note 1.
tl:dr......... Not dissapointed at all.......... yet (still need to submerge it lol)
strommy1966 said:
Well i got my phone on Tuesday of this week, and to be honest im a bit disappointed ! i have used a Galaxy S2 for about 3 years its rooted with a custom ROM which i have found to be great. Firstly the Z2 screen is far too dark for my taste, outside i do find it hard to see the screen. and yes that's with auto brightness switched off ! i have the tap screen to wake phone switched on , sometimes im surprised how hard i actually have to tap it to switch on ! and it doesn't always respond ! in the txt message screen, i find the writing so fine its hard to see against the white background, i feel the letters should be more bold so they are easier to read. and yes i have made the txt large. i also find the phone a bit quiet, the volume of the ring tone and txt could do with being louder. and im surprised at the battery life too, not as good as my GS2, but yes i understand that i have an Apollo kernel installed which prolongs the battery. i have downloaded a task killer on to the phone to help prolong battery life, i will see what difference that makes over a few days. i know they are probably just minor things i am moaning about.
i don't know if i was expecting too much ... but i thought that in 3 years since i last changed my phone, things would of moved on an awful lot. just hope that one of the Devs works out a root and makes some custom roms, so i can have the phone how i want it . am i the only one that is a bit disappointed ?
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Do you not think smart phones have got to a point where technology has levelled out?
Higher res screens, better cameras, water proofing Etc? All this year's phones are much the same.
What separated them for me was build quality and screen size preference and being waterproof.
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Do you not think smart phones have got to a point where technology has levelled out?
Higher res screens, better cameras, water proofing Etc? All this year's phones are much the same.
What separated them for me was build quality and screen size preference and being waterproof.
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yeah i think you could be right ! okay they tweak them a bit here and there,this one has a few more pixels,and so on, but with the manufactures bringing out so say flagship phones every 6 months, they cant change drastically in that short time. but we keep buying them so i guess they will keep doing it .
Sensamic said:
I find all the new flagships since last year disappointing, and that's why I haven't upgrade from my SGS3 yet.
They all have three or four negatives.
Z2: too big (going from a SGS3 to a Z2 would be hard), overheating issue, 3 minute limit in 4K video, waterproof (it's a negative point for me because I don't want the USB charging port sealed. It's annoying if I have to charge the phone every day), you lose Sony DRM stuff if you unlock the bootloader and root, little development, delays, Z3 in second half of this year, no blocking mode (S5, M8, iPhone and Moto X and G have them and it's an essential feature), etc.
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cant agree, sorry. have gone from the S3 to the Z2 and I love the size of the phone (not everyone has small fingers or small hands lol)
The 4K video limit is on all 4k phones, but exactly where would you play your 4K film? unless you have been twisted into buying a 4K tv where there is not TV programmes for it, (just like 3D withering on the vine)
Charging point sealed? do what most of us are doing, buying magnetic charger no need to open the flap, and its waterproof which your s3 and mine were not
who these days puts DRM music on anything?
only thing I can agree is night time blocking is not very good, but Flight mode suffices for me
oh and the battery performance blows the S3 out of the water, two days out of a charge instead of 12 hours if lucky
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yeah i think you could be right ! okay they tweak them a bit here and there,this one has a few more pixels,and so on, but with the manufactures bringing out so say flagship phones every 6 months, they cant change drastically in that short time. but we keep buying them so i guess they will keep doing it .
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I agree. I mean what else can they possibly put in a phone? Apart from the 64 bit step, I can't see where else they can possibly go. IMO phone, tablet and laptop have all converged; to a degree i.e. phone- mini tablet, tablet- mini laptop. I am actually surprised that phones haven't had upgradeable ram yet.
I am planning to have this phone from my Galaxy S4. Stuffs that tempt me are the stereo-speakers, the premium feel, the waterproofing and that IPS display. I always wanted to have Sony because of the design, but the TFT LCD display is the deal-breaker for me. Now comes Z2 with IPS. Also, I have been using my gf's Nexus 5 with the IPS display, the screen is awesome, brighter and crisp. So I think Z2 would be perfect for me.
And I believe Asian version Z2 has more compatibility with frequency bands than S4 (i9505). Did my research. Hurray!:victory:
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Why are you happy and from which phone did you use prior to the SGS2?
Finally a phone I dont need to flash on a daily basis. Im one of the few lucky(according to xda) that have no issues or defects with my sgs2. My last couple devices were orginal sgs(vibrant) dell streak, Desire hd, Hd2, Moto atrix(poor excuse) and Lg G2x.
This device is the best ive ever owned and see no need to buy another device until the sgs3 comes out. Everything works out of the box and never any lag. It outperforms every device Ive tested it against including sensation.
Switched fr N1 for almost a mth, I've experienced an improvement under most of the aspects, the only thing I'm not satisfy w/ is the battery, the different to other GS2 owner is huge, I can hardly stand for 12 hrs and trying to use under voltage to solve it, hope it helps
Anyways, this is a very good smartphone and I like it much
I use an SGS2 now and then and it is a good unit. What the SGS1 should have been.
Before that I had teh SGS1 (a piece of #$t I was lucky to be able to return) that was laggy, buggy, lacking basic features (like a LED) and had major hardware design flaws (GPS was a joke). It was so crippled it could not be used out of the box, but would become decent after tuning (if you were willing to spend time with it).
I also have a Nokia E72, with the famous Symbian zombie-deathland OS. Ugly, unstylish but very reliable. In several ways, it is still great. Probably will keep it along with an SGS2... just in case.
Only problem with the SGS2 so far is the nasty pink hue in all photos and videos, but I have not updated above KE5 yet. And a pity it doesn't sound as good as the SGS1 on the 3.5mm jack with good audiophile gear.
Previous phones: HTC Touch Dual, HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch Pro2, HTC Desire.
It's hard to argue that any other phone on the market is better than the SGS2 right now. I mean, who's the competition?
Motorola Atrix
HTC Sensation
HTC Evo 3D
LG Optimus 2X
Seems to me the SGS2 has them all beat when it comes to specs, performance, formfactor, and display quality.
Battery life does appear to be sub-par but it's a compromise I'm more than willing to accept.
Previous Phones: HTC Touch Pro 2, Sony-Ericsson P990i
Well, I think I do not have to say anything about the previous phones compared to the S2 - it beats them all with ease.
The only two things Samsung should have made better/in another way:
Battery and heat dissipation. I would not had any problems if the phone would be some mm thicker and a little bit heavier for a more powerful battery and no (or even less) heat problems.
Well, but this is just my opinion...
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I just vannot put this phone down. : D
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I've come from a HTC wildfire and before that a T-mobile pulse and I love this phone. Everything about it is better than my last two phones.
The only problems are the battery life (which im hoping to fix by flashing KF2) and the fact I physicaly cannot use any other device now because they're all too small compared to this (seriously try picking up a 3.5inch device and it just looks small)
i came from an iphone 4 and am a real phone geek where i swap my phone regularly but i have to say im gonna stick with the s2 its easy, beautiful , certainly has the wow factor and its not locked down like ios ..... out of ten the s2 gets 11 just hope Samsung don't let us down by not updating the firmware regulary
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I came from an original Galaxy S which was the best phone in the world at the time. I love the SGS2. It's so much better in every way. Everything flies with the dual core processor. The screen size is great and there are subtle changes in the software which make a big difference such as the ability to assign your contacts to groups on the phone with out having to sign in to gmail via a browser.
I have SGS2 for about one month and it is the best phone I ever had. Not a single problem so far, everything works fast and perfect, battery life is great - battery lasts one day and a half on a heavy usage, which is better than 1 day with my previous HTC Desire. It is big step forward compared to my previous phone. I didn't root it yet, because everything is perfect out of a box.
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I have been a long time user of smart phones since the days of palm smart phones than to O2 devices than to Dopod and HTC..even tried a toshiba and acer phones..my last device was HTC Desire HD..
This is my first samsung phone..and i am really glad i made this switch..phone is simply amazing..does what ever i tell it to do and it does it perfectly..and now my wife is complaining becoz i often fall asleep with the phone in the hands.
About battery life..i know lots of people are complaining..but on my DHD..the way i trash the phone..battery will last 5 hours max..on this phone..still same trashing..i get about 11 to 12 hours..so for me no complains there.
Note: i never used apple products becoz i simply hate a device that tries to control me on how i can use the device.
Back to the topic..Hell yess i am absolutely satisfied
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Do we have BLN working on the SGS2 yet? Which kernel has it?
Do the custom roms take out the annoying fully charge sound notification?
Do custom roms make touchwiz reload faster? What about the unlock screen lag?
How many units (percent/batches??) are affected by the screen defect of the sgs2 wherein the left side is darker?
Why am I getting a lot of "battery issue" complaints whenever I google for problems on this phone? Is really serious or is that the fault of the user??
About the wake up and homescreen refresh lag, do you guys really believe that it's a problem on all phones or just how you set up the phone? Or rom or stock rom or kernel ???
I am still undecided if I am going to get this phone or the Nexus 3 which will probably have the same hardware as the SGS2 but better software.
I'm not entirely satisfied yet. I have some problems with the GPS. Searched the forums for some info regarding the GPS and found that most people are happy with it. Sure, if I stand under a clear sky, it finds almost instantly, 10-12 satellites and also locks them up. The problem is the ACCURACY and SPEED.
Accuracy (testing with GPS test):
I sometimes get down to 6 meters. But most of the time it's 10+ and up to 20, and sometimes jumps alot higher than that for no particular reason even when standing still. Yesterday I had my phone next to a HTC wildfire. My phone had 10 satellites and about 10-12 meters accuracy. The HTC had around 6 satellites only, with less signal (I had a few green, the HTC had only orange/yellow sats) but the HTC NEVER goes below 5 meters in accuracy. Most of the time it has 3 or 4 meters, values I never see even with less satellites. I've had a HTC Legend myself and I could have it in my pocket without it going over 5 meters in accuracy in the middle of the forest, which is needed when I'm running...
Speed:
Possible problem with GPS outsignal maybe? When I'm using ANY app for walking for example, the GPS with always show 3,6 km/h. Always a fixed value. When I use Copilot, the same version as i did with my old SGS, the speed will jump 3 km steps for example: 80 km/h, 83, 86 etc.
I guess I'm abit more picky with the GPS than most people. Specially since everyone seems to be so happy with it when it works pretty bad in my opinion.
Oh well it's alot better than SGS atleast.
I'm now using a sgs-II for two weeks and am happy with it.
My previous phones were the nexus one, motorola milestone. The milestone was buggy and big, not to mention locked down my Motorola. The nexus one was generally good except the buggy touch pannel, and during it was running 2.3.3 it was draining the battery very fast.
I had some problems with sgs-II and its gps (it saw satellites but did not lock even after 20 minutes) after changing the ntp server setting in gps.conf it locks in under 10 seconds. I believe that the reported accuracy is more true than other phones. My nexus one typically reported better accuracy but the position was jumping the same as the Sgs-II
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dropped it on concrete (car park) and watched it bounced on its sides and then finally slide some 1 metre flat on its screen...
All I had on it was a gs1 screen protector so the screen had some exposed areas but amazingly... no scratch on the screen or even on the metal rims around it. So I'm pretty happy with this phone =D
Also, the drop was so hard that the back plate came off but another thing I'm impressed with it is that the battery stayed in it. If this was my nokia, heck, battery, simcard, micro sd and just about any movable internals would've sprayed out.
The first time I got this phone I thought the thing is so light and thin, I would have to take care of it like a baby. But man the incident made my day. (I bought proper screen protector and case the day before it though... just waiting on shipping, not gonna risk it =P)
Damn I sound like a promoter.
Back to the topic, I was kinda hoping that this phone would future proof me for a while... so not having NFC is a bit of a drawback in that department if that takes off. -1
+1 for replaceable battery =P I'm keeping an extra one around just in case (coming from an iphone 3gs)
+1 for dual core! being my first android phone it seems like I have been spared from the general laggy and buggyness of previous gen androids
At the moment I'm trying to make an app to globally control music via the volume rocker which is the only thing I missed from iphone (eg hold the volume down to get to next track) playerpro can do this but only from the lockscreen.
Other than that... I'm a very satisfied owner indeed.
Yes. M8800 pixon
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I simply love mine eheh
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All you say is pure bull$hit.This phone is a piece of crap.Yesterday I opened voice commands and told it to make me coffee.The coffee was BLACK while I want milk in it!And it was much sweeter than I want!I am really considering taking the phone back and buying that Buondi coffee machine.
Anyway,joking aside,it's one step forward than a device that would already be many steps forward than what is available today(other than the GS2 of course! ).Lagginess?Gone.Slow reactions?Gone.Bad performance?Gone.Battery issues?Gone if you take precautions(Simple as updating to KE7 and later with a wipe-factory reset).Incompatibility?Well,this one goes to Chainfire but gone too.Even with CF3D my Desire HD can't always keep up.
Am I satisfied?Hell yeah I am!
Oh,and about the coffee part,it's awesome there too.How?Overclock it,set it to performance governor and make a stress test.Flip the phone while the stress test is going and you can keep your coffee hot at all times!
Like many I am waffling between the Hercules and the Amaze. I really like the Amaze. It is a great looking phone and I like Sense 3.0 (looking forward to 3.5). The biggest thing holding me back from pulling the trigger on the Amaze (besides the fact that it isn't actually out yet on Telus) is the seemingly widespread reports of poor battery life.
First question: Is the poor battery life universal or is it only some people who are experiencing it while others are getting good battery life?
Second question-kind of a strange one. I mount my phone in my car with a holder which squeezes the phone from the sides to hold it. My concern is that with the usb on the side it cannot be plugged in while in the holder. Also, I am concerned that the holder will squeeze against the camera buttons and activate the camera. Does anyone have one of these types of phone mounts and does it work ok with this phone?
Thanks
Nobody has on opinon?
I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
Battery life - Use juice defender Ultimate + SetCPU. Get HTC Evo 3D or HTC Sensation 1900mAH battery
Camera - Arguably the best on android
Soft Buttons - Works just fine here. Light up in the dark. Stays off in bright environment
Lag - Absolutely no lag. Dual core processor + 1GB RAM. This is not HTC Hero, It's the Amaze
Galaxy nexus - Hmmmm, a great device. Should you wait? that's up to you mate.
I'll just comment on battery life, mine hasn't been that bad at all, I routinely get through a full day without needing a charge. I use JuiceDefender, but other than that I don't change too much.
Thanks for your replies. As for battery, I'd like to get a full day (charge overnight, not have to recharge til next night) out of my phone without having to jump through hoops to make it possible.
As for Nexus, who knows if Telus will ever get it. The haven't exactly been leading the pack with getting the latest phones.
Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
It does not matter which you get, dual core devices eats battery.
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My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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It's because you don't have a source at HTC. That's what makes you a fan boy. Battery is about the same as long as it runs the same course of use. Really. Then again, that rumor is coming from a unreliable source. You! Let me hear your long Android history. I bet I got you beat hands down.
Sense 3.0 is much more responsive than Touch Wiz 4.0. How do I know this? I spend about 30+ hours in a T-Mobile show room a week. That's weird. Do I randomly through out the day try to load the same webpages on both phones? Yes. Does the HTC load full sites faster than the SGSII consistently? Yes. Have I carefully watched the battery and repeated the exact same tasks on both devices? Yes. Is the battery that much far off? No.
So is the battery life going to be that much better? Is it going to be significant enough to wait and get the Samsung Nexus? Probably not.
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Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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As I stated in my first post, I'm more concerned with the car phone holder pressing against the buttons. I guess nobody else uses one of those. I'll have to bring the holder in with me and try it I guess.
Thanks for everyone's replies.
I have one of those types of car holders and don't have an issue with triggering the camera or charging the phone.
Can't comment on battery life yet, just got it Friday.
Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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You got a lemon. My experience since launch day has been the EXACT opposite of what you just posted.
Battery=good
Camera=awesome (look into your settings)
Soft buttons=awesome. BEtter than my old Vibrant
Lag=none, not even when stock un-rooted
Your "source" means nothing.
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Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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This is the one I have - arkon(com)/megagrip/megagrip-windshield-car-mount.html
Liking that slim grip you posted though. Might replace mine with that.
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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1) I have the white one. It does attract a quite high quantity of dirt. The back is easy to clean. Just use a smooth humid cloth on it. For the lens, it's easier to clean it removing the back cover. The Xperia Logo on the bottom, and on the Camera, HDMI and USB logos on the sides also get dirty quite easily. The dust enters the little "depression" and get stuck in there. If someone knows a good way to clean this, please let me know.
2)It's been quite a long time since the start of the production. Until batch 14, almost all devices had it, on batches 15 and 16 it almost has gone. We must be on batches 30 or 40 by now, so no need to worry.
3)I think it's enough for me, and should be enough for you. Check the battery thread, and look at my posts to see my results.
4)Well, my carrier sucks for that. I badly can enter a corridor on my school without loosing signal. But I also had this with my old X10 MP. I think the coverage is good (not so good now, as I'm using Turkey FW, with a different baseband, but it doesn't make it unusable)
5)I always kept it on, so I can't tell the difference, really. Most people seems to have problems since the first ICS update (I also have this problem, but the screen is still awesome)
6)GPS for that is good for me. I also don't drive (heck, I'm 15 years old), but it is really accurate (with internet connection it's even better, as it have A-GPS)
Hope I helped.
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1) I have the white one. It does attract a quite high quantity of dirt. The back is easy to clean. Just use a smooth humid cloth on it. For the lens, it's easier to clean it removing the back cover. The Xperia Logo on the bottom, and on the Camera, HDMI and USB logos on the sides also get dirty quite easily. The dust enters the little "depression" and get stuck in there. If someone knows a good way to clean this, please let me know.
2)It's been quite a long time since the start of the production. Until batch 14, almost all devices had it, on batches 15 and 16 it almost has gone. We must be on batches 30 or 40 by now, so no need to worry.
3)I think it's enough for me, and should be enough for you. Check the battery thread, and look at my posts to see my results.
4)Well, my carrier sucks for that. I badly can enter a corridor on my school without loosing signal. But I also had this with my old X10 MP. I think the coverage is good (not so good now, as I'm using Turkey FW, with a different baseband, but it doesn't make it unusable)
5)I always kept it on, so I can't tell the difference, really. Most people seems to have problems since the first ICS update (I also have this problem, but the screen is still awesome)
6)GPS for that is good for me. I also don't drive (heck, I'm 15 years old), but it is really accurate (with internet connection it's even better, as it have A-GPS)
Hope I helped.
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Thanks for the reply.
About the batches, do you know how to check what batch it is? Since in Australia the Xperia S doesnt sell very well (I know it since Im working for a phone company now), so I reckon there are a lot of old stock sticking around.
And what is the problem you're talking about? Sorry I should have done my research but Im dong my assignment now and the threads are HUGE
Thanks again !
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Thanks for the reply.
About the batches, do you know how to check what batch it is? Since in Australia the Xperia S doesnt sell very well (I know it since Im working for a phone company now), so I reckon there are a lot of old stock sticking around.
And what is the problem you're talking about? Sorry I should have done my research but Im dong my assignment now and the threads are HUGE
Thanks again !
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The only way I know is to open the back cover of the phone. On it, there is white sticker with info about the phone. On the right side, there is the phone model (LT26i), another info and something like this, 12Wxx, where xx is the batch, W is week and 12 is year. Mine is W10, so I have the yellow spot. Sadly can't trade as Sony Brazil is horrible.
The problem, I meant is that the Bravia Engine isn't working for most on the ICS update.
No more inputs from anyone?
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So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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Hey there,
1. I have the black xps, my friend owns the white version. It does attract quite a bit of dirt but using a case should solve the problem. (recommend nillkin hard case)
2. Yellow screen issue - my first xps had the defect, returned it to the service centre within a week of purchase and got a replacement in 2 weeks. The batch I now have is 12w16. So if it's possible for you to find out the production batch, I recommend you get anything beyond w14.
3. Battery life - immensely dropped after the ics update. Gb battery life was amazing (I'm referring to stock firmware). The issue is due to the phone unable to get enough deep sleep when the screen is off. (culprits being - alarm manager and power saver app, they keep restarting). On stock ics, with 3G constantly on, Wifi for a few hours, display on for about 3 hours, music for 30mins,auto sync on throughout - i get about 12-15 hours of battery life. With auto sync off, I get 3-4 hours more battery life.
4. About network signal etc. The phone doesn't have any issues. But if you're in a low coverage area, it's going to drain your battery even further. One bug I've noticed is that after a few hours or sometimes a day, my data connectivity just refuses to work, in spite of it showing active with the H/3G symbol. Only solution is a restart.
5. I keep my bravia engine off most of the time, honestly I can't really tell the difference cause the screen is one of the best in the market. Love the clarity.
6. Gps - no issues. Fast and accurate.
Hope this helped you.
Cheers!
averygagaanroid said:
So at the moment I have a couple of phones that I really want to buy and the XS is one of them. It is the best financially apparently but there are a few things I need to know. Hopefully y'all can help me. Thanks a lot !
1) Does the white version attract dirt easily and if so is it easy to wipe it off? I know I can just get a case for it but since on the front there is a large area under the capacitive buttons and Im gonna touch that area a lot so I want to know. (Mini rant: why does it have so many visible seams, make the phone look a tard cheap)
2) How is the yellow screen issue? Has it been improved/ fixed? If I have it do you reckon it's gonna be easy to have Sony fixed it? I live in Australia btw
3) Battery life? I saw a lot of people having issues with the ICS update. My normal usage is 2-3 hours checking social networking sites, web-browsing, 2-3 hours of music, probably 15 minutes of games. Do you reckon if it's gonna be enough to last me?
4) Does this phone have any issue with getting coverage? In my house the coverage is terrible for most carriers. I had an HTC sensation and my mom has an s2 and they seem to not be able to hold on to signal any long.
5) So what do the colours look like w/out the Mobile Bravia Engine? I reckon I wont turn it on to preserve battery but I want to know how much it's gonna affect the quality of the screen. And in so many videos the colours do look a bit washed out...
6) How's the GPS? I dont drive but I use apps that use GPS.
That's all. Thanks again
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1. I used to own a XS before upgrade to the Acro S. A white one to be exact. I used a case all the time so there was little dirt to be worry about. I'm sure you'll feel the same. The 3 touch buttons on the front was horrid though.
2. If you buy a brand new one around this time, I doubt you will ever encounter this issue.
3. Battery do fine for me. It's about 3 hours of screen time, not very impressive but not bad at all.
4. Coverage is good. I've ever lost any signal.
5. You'll see a bit different in color, less vivid to be exact but you'll get used to it in tme.
6.GPS is fast and accurate.
Hope this help.
1)I have the older batch, so am having a yellow tint. Will send it for repair when I do have the time. As long as the bootloader is unlocked sony will gladly repaired it for you.
2)sony has said that bravia engine dont impact battery life, so u don't really need to turn it down
3)GPS is really really good, even without A-GPS( data off). Lock into position in seconds!. Must be the whole glonass thing,as other droids I use with data off,will need some time to few minutes to find me.
4)battery life,well as bad as most droids, 5 hours of screen time would drain it almost flat. But fast charging work as advertise, so plug it iN whenever possible,30 minits of charging could get it up around 50%.
5) call signal are really good, well at least I can comform it's better than samsung note,gio & s2.
Sent from my LT26i using xda app-developers app
I want to take advantage of being able to upgrade my DNA at no cost to me, so I need to do that by the end of this year. The company is switching to employee purchase of phones starting next year. I'm on Verizon. Looking for recommendations from those that have switched, or are contemplating a switch soon. I've primarily been looking at the Turbo, LG G3, and One M8. I've been on HTC devices, so am comfortable/familiar with Sense, and currently running a One based ROM on my DNA. I'm also fond of the wireless charging options, but don't know if a lack of it is enough to rule a particular phone out. Being able to root is a plus. Also leaning to a replaceable battery being a plus as well. Wife recently picked up a Note 4. I'll look at it some more, but that seems almost too big.
Is anyone aware of any new devices due out this month? If not, what is your favorite option today and why?
Thanks!
I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
The Droid Turbo was released not too long ago, and I'm really leaning towards it for my contract upgrade in a couple of weeks. It's still an internal battery unfortunately, but what caught my attention was it having nearly twice the capacity of the DNA. Since I have to charge my DNA halfway through the day, I'd be more than satisfied with the Turbo's battery life. Plus, it has some beefy specs as well. Camera has been reported to have some trouble with delay, but that might be corrected in a software update.
I did a little more reading last night and am starting to lean towards the LG G3. A little smaller than the Note 4 which is a good thing. Replaceable battery, rootable, and with a $10 hack can be changed to Qi wireless charging. I need to go spend some hands on time with it in the store. I've considered the Turbo as well, but with the reported camera issues, and some reporting earpiece volume issues, I just find myself questioning Motorola's product testing if they send these issues out with a hope to fix them later in a software update.
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I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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I don't know about you but toward the end of my 2 years on the DNA I'd have to plug my phone in after about 5-6hrs of moderate use or it was flat dead!
So far with the Note 4 I've actually managed 2 full days on one charge a couple times.. Keeping in mind it's a new phone so I'm playing on it a lot!
Also the fast charge is awesome! I have had it go from 50% to a full charge in about 15 minutes on the charger! (that's only using the included "adaptive fast charger" from Samsung)
The S-pen is cool! I felt like it might be one of those things that lost its "cool factor" once I played with it enough but I keep finding new useful reasons pull it out.. Easily screenshoting and cropping an Instagram post using the Screen Write function for example.
Or more obvious things like quickly jotting down a number or reminder. Which are a lot more useful and easy than I had though they would be.
The chances of getting a fully functional ROOT seem far out if it ever happens.. So that's a bit of a downside. But I can say this is the first phone I've had that I wasn't just dying to root. I honestly have very little reason to root it other than getting Lollipop before VZW and Samsung get it on the update manager.
The phone is big! I will say that.. Probably one of the only things I've had issues with is one handed typing. But I'm getting use to it. It can be very difficult stretching that thumb up to reach things with one hand but I guess that's the price we pay for a large screen. Which is a beautiful display by the way... Both cameras rock too! It's packed with fx, filters and neat camera features that are a lot of fun.
Anyway I hope you are happy with whatever you get! I did talk to a guy over the weekend who has LG G3 and he told me he "hates it" although he couldn't really tell me why.. Haha I haven't played with one but they seem pretty comparable
By the way I thought I'd share that when I got home and started typing this my battery was at 56% (after a full day of pretty heavy use) and in the time it's taken me to type this up (on the phone via tapatalk) while plugged into the fast charger I'm up to 72%
Just thought I'd share an update, in case the op might be still deciding.
I opted for the Note 4. Got it in the mail yesterday, and so far I'm very impressed! It's not as hard to handle as I thought it'd be due to its size. I have yet to give the battery a good test, gotta break it in and actually do a near full run-down, since I had it plugged in most of the day yesterday. But this display is absolutely gorgeous! Don't think I'll be using the s-pen much, but who knows, maybe I'll find more use for it further down the road. I also enjoy using the finger print scanner; I find it quicker to unlock. At times it's frustrating that it doesn't work, but that's because I'm not being precise enough.
Thought I'd share my first impressions. Thanks for the input starscream!
Guess I should've come back to update this. I wound up getting the LG G3 a week ago. Already rooted and installed Skydragon ROM and love it. I also purchased the sticker for the battery door that changes it from NFC only to NFC plus wireless charging. Battery life has been great, and I like the knock knock option for turning on the screen. Transition from my DNA to the G3 has been easy.
Appreciate the suggestions and feedback from everyone!
Hello all,
I've used a z5c for a short time a while ago and my experience with it was downright terrible. It was overheating, getting annoyingly warm while doing basic tasks, whenever I got under 15% there was an annoying red light in my face, there was an orange light always on in the night when it was charging, and then the screen shattered from the tiniest drop. The battery life was also poor, despite it being great on paper. Anyway,
Did the (marshmallow) system updates fix the terrible heating situation?
Is there a rom out there that fixes the heating issues?
Is it in anyway possible to disable those lights?
I'm planning on buying a new one (with tempered glass protectors) if these things are possible.
Thanks in advance for answering!
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Hello all,
I've used a z5c for a short time a while ago and my experience with it was downright terrible. It was overheating, getting annoyingly warm while doing basic tasks, whenever I got under 15% there was an annoying red light in my face, there was an orange light always on in the night when it was charging, and then the screen shattered from the tiniest drop. The battery life was also poor, despite it being great on paper. Anyway,
Did the (marshmallow) system updates fix the terrible heating situation?
Is there a rom out there that fixes the heating issues?
Is it in anyway possible to disable those lights?
I'm planning on buying a new one (with tempered glass protectors) if these things are possible.
Thanks in advance for answering!
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The .224 update brought new life to the z5c but it still has all of its usual flaws. Overheating is still an issue, I regularly see temps in the 140*f range but it is a major improvement over the 170+ from lollipop. The battery lights are all able to be disabled so long as your rooted, I don't see how they're an issue though, every phone I've ever had has had them and I prefer them. Battery life is improved drastically. I used to not make it 4 hours before going dead on lollipop,now I can make it through a whole workday.
Also note that I've never tried the official build of marshmallow or the kernel. I went from lollipop straight to xpower ROM and androplus kernel.
I am currently on Marshmallow, there is still overheating issues. In fact, I'm just on facebook and its getting a little warm. If you're in hot countries too it can be quite a problem, I live in England so it isn't as bad, everything is always cold so I can literally just place my phone on something cold like a desk and it will just be back to normal temp, but then obviously increase again lol.
Yes lights can be disabled with root.
Cyanogenmod13 actually disabled unnecessary stuff, and actually stopped it from overheating multiple times. However, cons of CM13 is that the camera doesnt work etc..
Im on marshmallow and the phone got alot better but **** these sony phones bro. Think you might be better of with a other brand because this z5c will be my last sony for a loooooong time.
Is there anything else out there that's similarly sized? Is z3 compact a better phone?
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Is there anything else out there that's similarly sized? Is z3 compact a better phone?
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In battery wise, yes
tronjojo said:
Is there anything else out there that's similarly sized? Is z3 compact a better phone?
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As along as you can live with side charging and flaps the z3c is all around a better phone. Unfortunately there isn't anything even close to rivaling this phone or to replace it yet.I refresh news on the xianomi mi5 mini, htc h10 mini, and s7 mini weekly just to make sure lol
DON'T buy it, seriously i'm done with Sony , last android i'll ever buy
Ye, me too. I just want a smaller phone that's as powerful as the big guys. And I don't want to switch to an iPhone