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looking for a stereo receiver to connect to my hifi at home....
something like :
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/acc-bluetooth-stereo-adapters/hws-bta2w
or
http://www.scosche.com/products/sfID1/217/sfID2//sfID3//productID/537
bells and whistles are not importsnt only the quality of sound.
anybody used these devices? or that can recomend a better receiver?
I've used both, and Sony is unthinkably better. Its not perfect as it doesn't support really high bandwith A2DP without clipping, but nothing really does... (in fact of all the a2dp accesories that I've tried, only one set of headphones have, Logitech Freepulse 2). The Scosche adapter is complete garbage. I tried two of them thinking that I just got a defective one, boy was I wrong. It outputs poor quality, and after maybe 20 min (if you're lucky) all you get is static, and then you have to turn the unit off and turn it back on. After that you'll maybe get 5 min until the static kicks in. If you want to use it for longer than 5min, you have to let it sit until it cools down. I bought my first one on eBay, and tried out the second unit from Best Buy. At the end of the day, I returned the Best Buy one, and just threw out the eBay one. I couldn't risk my ebay seller reputation (re)selling garbage like that.
Thanks Sonus,
i will mainly be plugging this into a motorbike intercom so although i want as high quality as possible its by no means audiophile grade
stated home use as i want the ability to power externaly
the alternative is the unit made by the intercom manufacturer and thats £75 and mono!
so before i go and grab one of the Sony's from Fleabay.... any other suggestions?
the Motorola DC800 is another that i have been looking at
As far as recievers, no other suggestions. I haven't used the Moto DC800, so I can't comment. Just be aware that the Sony only does A2DP, no HSF or HSP at all. So if you need those features...
I too was planning to use the Sony both in my car and at home. In the end, I ended up only using it at home. And it works really well there! My phone calls don't get picked up on my home stereo system, which is a plus to me. And the Sony can do both input and output over A2DP, so I sometimes use it to stream from either my phone or laptop, and at other times, I use it to stream the TV or radio to my A2DP headphones. As for car usage, the Sony has no internal battery, and the car charger must be ordered from Sony. Besides that, a dedicated car piece has the advantage of having a remote control. In my car, I installed the iO Play adapter.
thats actually great news
i want the phone going to the other reciever so this one will be for audio only so the lack of HSP HFP is great, should make configuration easier.
does the Sony come on automaticly when you plug it in? or do you have to press the button... i hope it will come on itself as it will be tucked under the seat (not impossible to get at and switch on but it would be a bonus if i didnt have to)
iO Play adaptor?? any more info?
Unfortunately, the Sony doesn't turn on automatically when you plug into a power source.
I posted some pics of my io play setup over here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408977. But that won't work for your motorcycle as it requires some serious re-wiring to be able to work w/o a car stereo attached to it.
I just googled these, would they be helpful to you? http://www.a2dp.info/Newsflash/Bluetooth-Headsets-for-Motorcycle-Enthusiasts.html or this
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/blu-virtu/
sonus said:
I just googled these, would they be helpful to you? http://www.a2dp.info/Newsflash/Bluetooth-Headsets-for-Motorcycle-Enthusiasts.html or this
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-intercoms/blu-virtu/
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- not really as i already have the intercom and its great in itself (and expensive!) just trying to avoid a cable from the Polaris
that IO Play looks nice!
I recently got the BackBeat 903 as a replacement for my previous bt headset, and it works great for calls, however, when I tried listening to music the playback experience is not as good. The music plays just fine, but as soon as I move the phone, or if I turn the screen off the playback starts becoming choppy, as if the audio player (I tried several, and they all do the same) would loose CPU time and control to the G-Sensor or something, and then when I stop moving it around the playback resumes. Anybody had the same problem? Thanks for your help!
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I recently got the BackBeat 903 as a replacement for my previous bt headset, and it works great for calls, however, when I tried listening to music the playback experience is not as good. The music plays just fine, but as soon as I move the phone, or if I turn the screen off the playback starts becoming choppy, as if the audio player (I tried several, and they all do the same) would loose CPU time and control to the G-Sensor or something, and then when I stop moving it around the playback resumes. Anybody had the same problem? Thanks for your help!
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Hey there benitton, I have the same headset, and experience the exact same issue...intermittent skipping, as if the handset was bogging down for different reasons.
However, I'm firmly of the opinion that the issue is with the phone and the sub-par bluetooth stack in it, not with the headset itself. I haven't tried other BT stereo headsets with this phone, but I've used the backbeats with other devices, and didn't have the same issue at all.
Unfortunately, I haven't yet found any source or method for replacing the BT stack in the TP2, we may just be stuck with this one for good
Have you used any other stereo BT headsets with your TP2? If so, did you notice the same symptoms at all? (<----- that's a question for anybody, not just the OP)
Unfortunately I have not found any other headset that I would like to use, and as you mention, it seems that no matter which one we could use we'll have the same problem. I am trying to see if there is any way we can run any audio player in exclusive mode, maybe that could help a little bit, but since the BT stack is part the system, I guess it will still have problems. I tried disabling the G-Sensor, but I was not able to fully disable it, so I still had problems with the audio, but not as much as when it is fully enabled. I will keep trying to find something, and any suggestions you might have would be wonderful. Thank you!
hey guys.. i was planning to buy this one.. seeing this post.. i just cancelled my order...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320508090475
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do you guys think same will happen with this one also??
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hey guys.. i was planning to buy this one.. seeing this post.. i just cancelled my order...
do you guys think same will happen with this one also??
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I honestly haven't tried any other BT stereo headsets with the TP2, so I can't say for sure...but honestly for $12 I might just pick up that motorola to give it a shot and see.
But...I'm sure there's others here who have used that same model, or even different ones, who could comment on whether they've seen the same issues...
I have the backbeat 906 (it's a 903 with the headphone jack adapter in the box) and haven't had stutter problems using a Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile version, with the stock 6.5 ROM and S2P/S2U2. The audio quality has been great and I use the thing while running so it's obviously moving constantly. What software are you running on your phone that might be eating CPU?
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I have the backbeat 906 (it's a 903 with the headphone jack adapter in the box) and haven't had stutter problems using a Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile version, with the stock 6.5 ROM and S2P/S2U2. The audio quality has been great and I use the thing while running so it's obviously moving constantly. What software are you running on your phone that might be eating CPU?
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Yeah I really should have bought the 906's instead...because now I can't find the adapter sold separately anywhere, and I already have a number of uses for it
Now when I have the issue, I usually have nothing running but the media player itself (I've had the issue with several different ones as well). However, after re-reading the OP's notes, they do bring up a good point...I've got my g-sensor set to work with manila too, so that might contribute to the issue, but it's intermittent enough that I can't tell yet whether turning the sensor off made any difference.
It also occured to me this morning that it might be related to the commonly-felt lag whenever the SMS module is engaged (like when receiving an SMS)...again, since not every SMS msg seems to affect the performance exactly the same, it'll be a little while 'till I can tell for sure.
While we wait for any other suggestions, those might be things for benniton to take a look at too
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Yeah I really should have bought the 906's instead...because now I can't find the adapter sold separately anywhere, and I already have a number of uses for it
Now when I have the issue, I usually have nothing running but the media player itself (I've had the issue with several different ones as well). However, after re-reading the OP's notes, they do bring up a good point...I've got my g-sensor set to work with manila too, so that might contribute to the issue, but it's intermittent enough that I can't tell yet whether turning the sensor off made any difference.
It also occured to me this morning that it might be related to the commonly-felt lag whenever the SMS module is engaged (like when receiving an SMS)...again, since not every SMS msg seems to affect the performance exactly the same, it'll be a little while 'till I can tell for sure.
While we wait for any other suggestions, those might be things for benniton to take a look at too
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Interesting. I'm not using the g sensor for pretty much anything - usually when I'm using the 906s it's while running so my handset's got Endomondo, S2P, S2U2, and sometimes pocket outlook open. I've noticed it breaks up a little if i have my phone in the opposite pocket from the left earphone (so right pocket) but it doesn't stutter exactly, just drops in quality. left pocket is fine though. it's always been fine in a belt case.
Before S2P had working AVRCP on the Pro2 I was using the Music tab built into Manila and didn't have any lag issues with that either. Though, I just thought of this - wifi interference? BT and wifi use the same frequency bands and watching youtube videos over wifi has definitely induced a headphone stutter for me in the past. I got around it by letting the video cache first and then playing.
Problem disconnecting calls
Hey fellas...
I got the Plantronics Backbeat 903 for my Touch Pro 2. I really like the headset but I'm having a problem with it not disconnecting a call when I click the phone button on it to hang up.
It will always pick up the call when I click the button to answer but it will only sucessfully hang up the call maybe 1 out of 5 or six times.
Are any of you experiencing the same issue?
I had a Sprint Touch and bluetooth worked great with S9 headset. Then I got a Diamond and headset was horrible, lots of cut-outs, tried all kinds of things to no avail. Also got a Jabra BT2010, same problem with Diamond. Now I have the Touch Pro 2, Sprint, WM6.1 and Jabra works great with S2P, Resco Radio, StreamCenter and Slacker radio. Haven't tried with S9 because it died, battery won't hold charge, before I got the TP2. Just thought I would share my experience.
Was the quality good streaming with the TP2 Bluetooth or using the adaptor?
Can I ask what case you use with the TP2 when running? I would like this set up but don't want to risk damage to the phone through swear or rain. Does the TP2 fit in a iPhone armband?
Edit: Just found this thread for anyone else after an armband:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571536
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I have the backbeat 906 (it's a 903 with the headphone jack adapter in the box) and haven't had stutter problems using a Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile version, with the stock 6.5 ROM and S2P/S2U2. The audio quality has been great and I use the thing while running so it's obviously moving constantly. What software are you running on your phone that might be eating CPU?
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aerotec said:
Was the quality good streaming with the TP2 Bluetooth or using the adaptor?
Can I ask what case you use with the TP2 when running? I would like this set up but don't want to risk damage to the phone through swear or rain. Does the TP2 fit in a iPhone armband?
Edit: Just found this thread for anyone else after an armband:
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Good with both the TP2 and the adaptor. I use S2P on the phone for my music app along with S2U2. As far as cases go, I just run with the phone in my pocket - I've run races in the rain and the phone's been entirely unaffected. Very solid hardware.
I used the BackBeat 903 with my iPhone 3G and experienced the constant breakup of signal whenever I tried to move around. If I was completely motionless, it provided superb quality - but if I tried to slowly walk across the room - it would break up with a frequency that approximately matched every right step (the phone was in my right pocket).
I disabled the "shake to shuffle" feature, just to be sure.
I tried holding the phone right up by my shoulders while walking, yet the disruptions continued.
And now I have upgraded to an iPhone 4 - and the problem is worse, not better.
Are we sure this is an Apple problem and not a Plantronics problem? Either way, I can't use the 903 for its intended purpose - to listen while walking.
Very, very frustrated.
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I used the BackBeat 903 with my iPhone 3G and experienced the constant breakup of signal whenever I tried to move around. If I was completely motionless, it provided superb quality - but if I tried to slowly walk across the room - it would break up with a frequency that approximately matched every right step (the phone was in my right pocket).
I disabled the "shake to shuffle" feature, just to be sure.
I tried holding the phone right up by my shoulders while walking, yet the disruptions continued.
And now I have upgraded to an iPhone 4 - and the problem is worse, not better.
Are we sure this is an Apple problem and not a Plantronics problem? Either way, I can't use the 903 for its intended purpose - to listen while walking.
Very, very frustrated.
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I normally keep my phone in my left hand pocket when using the headphones - I believe the antenna is on the left side. I experienced poor performance with my phone on the right side of my body, but performance is typically good on the left. I've noticed that if I have a significant amount of metal between my head and the phone pocket (like, say, a handgun) the signal breaks up - my assumption is that whatever is in between the phone and the headset causes interference in the bluetooth connection. The best performance I've had has been my phone in the left side pocket of a pair of gym shorts, only wearing the shorts and a t-shirt. Also, for some reason my insulin pump doesn't seem to have enough metal in it to cause interference.
You have to make sure that your mobile phone is located on the left side of your body whole time, while you're using backbeat 903. It's in the manual hehehe. This will solve your problem. cheers.
Problem solved!!!
atleast for me ...I simply disabled the WIFI and poof the choppyness is gone and now plays without any distortion clear as a bell...hope this helps.
Of course I also used a registry editor to remove unwanted programs and clean out useless files.......... I think the problem lies with The 528MHz Qualcomm CPU with 288 megs of RAM.. I do not think it is sufficient enough to run all things at once...I would suggest to remove any and all unnecessary programs/files, then disable all which can be enabled when needed....good luck.
Does anyone have any experience/recommendations for an Android-based car stereo head unit? My old stereo has just died, so I am interested in what people think of the currently available ones. I have a double din space.
eBay seems to have several available that are similar to this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/ca-fi-is-an-aftermarket-android-car-stereo-that-wont-fit-in-you/
There are ones where the Android part is essentially a separate tablet (probably not what I'm after, judging by the videos) http://www.erisin.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=253
Parrot make this single-din stereo: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Parrot-Aste...?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343930713&sr=1-24
There are no doubt many others too. Prices seem to be in the £200 - £280 range which is about my limit.
Nobody has any experience of these or opinions at all?
I think I'm leaning towards the Parrot as it's rootable, and the single-din size is more likely to fit whatever car I get after my current one.
Bump for this thread. I just recently thought about getting into one of these units too, my only concern is how "locked down" they would be in terms of getting rid of their default launchers and crap they have. I basically want a way to just have android by itself running on the car - I can get apps for just about everything else. Ideally I want a clone of my phone on the car that would sync with my phone. Or better yet, simply a way to have a "remote display" for my phone. That way, anything I'm doing on the car side of things would be the same on my phone, like a received email, new internet bookmark, or something like that.
~T.J.
I just picked up a "Road Cyberman" from China Jiaho (actually they call it something else, but it's the same as Chinavasion's Road Cyberman, except $100 cheaper).
It's running Gingerbread 2.3.5 and proving difficult to root. No adb on the usb (even with debug option), no google apps (although I found some apks that sort of work) and no adb wireless available.
The devices works fine, but I would like to have a little bit more control over it.
I've tried Gingerbreak and the other get root apks, but no luck so far.
Yeah, I have seen a lot of those units, but I kind of changed my mind. I have recently been looking into doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q-UXDi3dm3U
I have been following that company for a while, and they just recently released that video and are taking pre-orders for the new board. My biggest hold up at this point is that I would like to use a single DIN stereo for the "amp" by running the audio from their device into the aux input of my existing stereo. I need to find room to mount both the double DIN screen and a custom spot for the single DIN stereo I already have. I would then have the choice of using the stereo without plugging in the phone if I didn't want to for whatever reason. Alternatively, if I can find a good FM tuner app for my phone and a good customizable dock mode, I could eliminate the stock stereo and just run the inputs into a standard automotive 4 channel amp. This of course means you get nothing for a car stereo unless you connect the phone though, unlike the other plan.
Of course, another thought I had was getting a used double DIN touch screen DVD player and using their interface board to convert it to run the Android screen through it, then run the audio straight into the aux input of the touch screen DVD player. That way you have the ability to use the system "as is" out of the box, OR run the Android device through the screen. I think this is the best option, but it also takes the most money since you have the expense of the used double DIN touch screen unit first. I also wonder about picture quality and touch screen sensitivity with the built in touch screens on those units.
Anyway, just food for thought!
~T.J.
EDIT: One of the other hold ups is the calling. I would like to use an external mic and have audio come through the car speakers, currently using that board you are still calling through the device, thus you would need a Bluetooth headset from my understanding. I would like to avoid that if possible also. This is another good reason to go with the double DIN stereo since some of those support Bluetooth calling already and you could probably make/receive calls that way completely hands free.
EDIT #2: If you were into car monitoring and such also, you could easily get a bluetooth OBD interface and run the software on the phone (such as torque) so you could display live data from your car on your dash also. Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-ZvTn3fLo&t=45s
I picked up one of these after my buddy sent me this thread. It's got the power, but needs a root bad. Wish I knew how to find root for an Android device.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17228
This is a recurring problem i keep having across android phones and I'm trying to find some kind of solution ....
Ive got a few different car stereos, they all allow usb mass storage mounting to directly read/play songs from the phone.
They all require the same basic things: they expect to see a fat32 partition, they load the first and only the first partition that they can see, and they load every "media" file in the drive, including the nav turn by turn cache, etc.
Im hoping someone can write a program similar to "multi mount sd card" that basically allows you to choose a particular folder where you know all of your music, and only your music, is stored, and present that single folder to the car stereo as a good old fashioned mass storage device with a fat32 partition. Theoretically, id hope to leave the rest of the storage access able to the other programs on the phone, the only thing that would be affected maybe is the music player....which i wouldn't be using. I have different kinds of problems with getting this to work across different phones, an app like this could fix them all at once.
Ive got a lot of different tech experience e but im not a dev by any stretch. Ive tried a lot and my current issue is card order, stereo is seeing the internal card but my music is on external and it refuses to look past the first partition.
Anyone got any ideas? Ive got a razr (vzw) on the 215 leak.
Just wondering, I have a few decks in my cars and trucks also... Why do you plug your phone into the deck? I just recently got a Pioneer deh-6400bt for 149$ that allows me to seamlessly use Bluetooth to play music and also to talk with for hands free since its technically illegal to talk on the phone in Oregon....gr... anyways, And another point almost all decks that I have used, kenwood, alpine, pioneer, don't push enough power through the USB to make it worth your while to plug your phone in while using it. And all of those decks that had USB input also had a AUX input in the front.
he probably wants to use the deck to control the music, which can't be done with the aux cable
That is true... Have to tell you though.. BT is the shizzz though.. get in your rig and start it up... connects to phone and continues streaming where it left off and having the hands free is awesome
1. I actually have the pioneer deh-p6200bt in one of my cars - and it doesn't stream bluetooth audio, only phone functions. My other vehicle has a deck which can stream BT audio, and it's great for some things, like pandora, but with my internal music collection the audio quality is just not up to par, it's an obvious weak link.
2. The USB port charges at standard USB rates. It isn't a quick charge but it's certainly enough to make things worthwhile. I've found that on extended, 6-10 hour drives, running pandora, wifi tether, nav, torque and leaving the screen on constantly, yes, it can discharge to the point where it shuts off. I was running this configuration while driving for a touring band once. More often, however, I'm not using everything at once, and i turn the screen off just because I don't always need it. It seems that I can run pandora, nav, torque, and have the phone still actually charge, it was serving wifi tether to the rest of the van that caused the phone to go over the edge and actually pull more power than it wAas getting in. Moreover, the bigger problem I wind up having is that phones will actually stop charging themselves from overheating (sun heat through windshield, and/or just to much load on the phones systems at once), at which point the amperage is irrelevant. In fact this may have been the ONLY problem I was having, while driving I couldn't pay enough attention to the phone to figure out much other than "oh hell it shut off cause its cooking itself".
3. Yes, I want control over tracks from front of deck, and USB is THE most complete way to do that, especially in the one car I have where i have steering wheel controls. I can search for specific tracks from the wheel, as well as call up any phone functions, which is more than the BT side would be able to do - in BT audio mode my systems seem to only be able to start/pause and track forward/reverse. Having hardware buttons that handle both phone and music leaves the screen of the device free for torque or maps.
4. On the audio quality note, if you're playing digital files stored on the device, nothing beats using the stereo to play them via USB, because the deck itself is the actual computer doing the conversion and the D/A converters in the deck should theoretically be nicer than anything in a cell phone. Its the cleanest path one could have.
For things like pandora, this isn't always possible, and in that case the next best option would be a toss up between BT and the 3.5mm jack, based on your ears which is cleaner. in absolutely ideal scenarios, where BT on the deck supports the more recent high quality a2dp codecs, BT can sound as good or better than the cable. A2DP audio isn't exactly this clear cut though, as the blanket of A2DP doesn't specify which codecs are supported, and the better ones are a more recent thing. I'll say that the cell phones have been good about this, it's more that the decks themselves don't always have the newer codecs. And in addition to that, there's still the matter of settings within either device, such at bitpool on the phone, that can have an effect on the sound. Unfortunately, my setup is such that only one deck I have does actual BT streaming, and while nice for some things definitely doesn't sound as good as when it is cabled or using USB directly.
The cable has the disadvantage of running through multiple conversions - the phone goes from D to A through it's own, lower quality converter, the stereo gets that signal as A, changes it to D in order to apply EQ/etc, then back to A as it goes down to the amps. It's generally unnecessary to do something like this if one can avoid it.
There is a third option, but this is very rare and just sort of coming to market - if you happen to have an in car video system with an HDMI input, it will send the streaming audio info as a pure digital signal and as with USB the radios D/A converters will be the units making the actual sound and thus being just as clean. An example of a unit like this is the Pioneer SPh-da100 (I could be wrong on model number), AKA the "appradio2". These are rare, and the least expensive version of this I've found is around 300-350 bucks. One thing I don't like about the appradio is that it seems to have only 2 sets of preamp outs....other than that, it looks like an amazing solution for at least one of my problems!
Basically.... sorry about the confused ramblings. I'm still trying to figure this out. The funny thing is - the phone presents the two storages, internal and external, and both of my radios make the connection - however one radio, a Dual unit, actually sees the external partition first and works fine, while the pioneer radio actually sees the internal first and it gives me nothing! the third vehicle I have, I actually am just using the 3.5mm in for sheer simplicity, it's an old crappy car that has no use for such a nice setup and the moto car dock with the combo usb/audio cable is actually a perfect fit for it. For the other cars, the moto car dock actually sucks, because it won't pass USB data, but that's another issue for another thread. Most likely I'm gonna gut it's frame and insert a straight through USB data cable for it.......
But I still need some way to make the phone consistently present the right info, all the time, every time!
Bump......
Anyone? Theres got to be someone else out there as frustrated by this as I am.....
Well, you're not the only one. I've running a Kenwood deck, on my Razr prior to the ICS update, I got it to work every time, since then...it's like rolling a die and trying to get lucky 7. Something in the update must have disabled the order of recognition of partitions coming up. I was able to get it to work...*once*. I've read that leaving dev/debug mode on some devices cause enough of a timing delay to let the deck recognize the sdcard, but this didn't work for me. There's actually a kenwood app that's supposed to help with all this but of course for me it does nothing. You might want to try the debug mode thing - I've read for some people that worked. I just want a way to configure the phone to *only* mount the sdcard drive when setup as a usb mass storage device. I'm assuming this is the problem, the internal storage confusing the deck.
It's been very frustrating...
Has anyone seen anything recently that's halfway exciting?
I've really been impressed by the look of OttoNavi's offerings, but in my case, I have a 2013 Ford Mustang with the top level Shaker Pro stereo, but non-nav, as if I got the nav unit it would have meant I spent 4k on radio options alone.
The issue I have with the OttoNavi for example is that it runs an old OS (2.3.4) as well as old hardware (single core 1Ghz), but that's not too bad considering it would be used for nothing much past music, movies, and regular radio. Resolutions don't wow me either 1024x600. My Galaxy Note 2 does better.
The downer for me is that it doesn't work with the native Sirius/XM radio that my car has, nor does it work with Sync. I've also heard that it wouldn't work easily with my factory amp/sub at all. Also, I have the comfort package, which includes heated seats, and I see no way to maintain them w/out doctoring my own switches.
Anyone sniffing around in the same area have any insight?