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Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my 2 cents.
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Yes I tuner to the Xperia this tablet is not for programmers and adventurous. But the Xperia Tablet is a very very useful device - top is the display and the processing - up to now I just noticed a bug - Standby Wifi Bug ... but otherwise everything works super - I have when buying and I'm also expecting no desire to torment me with Custom Roms have more bugs that have been adapted from programmed Hobbyprogs /. Previously I had an LG V900 and the LG IPAD2 there was only one update us .. but from 3.0 to 3.1 and there was already ICS out then the device is not supported in any further a USB connection without function and not a fix. Samsung is not exactly famous for its updates only when the new series - when the unit is 2 years old it was then with updates ... Also, the Google phones and tablets not convince me ... In the end it's like with all things, there is nix perfect one must always make swab ... I already have the Xperia S phone and am very excited so I decided for the Xperia S Tablet ... and I have not regretted it or not root task of the manufacturer is to close the gaps and has the Sony made you can not even be angry ... and JB is certainly the end of January 2013
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
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I agree with Raedek
Premium feel, awesome design and above average display. It could be a winner if not for the buggy software. I couldn't get past the random shutdowns while watching movies or in sleep mode. I've had a positive experience with the nexus 7 so I tend to agree with the suggestion to go with a Nexus 10. Good luck with your decision
Personally I wouldn't touch the Sony S v2 tablet.
I made the mistake with the first Sony Tablet S when it was heavily discounted only to learn that this tablet has very poor developer support: no ROMs and can't even do a nand backup. Updates are also non-existent.
My Sony S is pretty much junk ATM IMHO.
My advice would be to avoid and go for something that is more widely supported (i.e Xoom or Samsung tablets) by developers.
Good luck.
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Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. /QUOTE]
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Totally disagree with all the comments here which seem to come from people that owned the previous tablet, but not the S2.
I don't spend my money lightly and after last years model, I wanted to be sure this was the right tabletl before I spent money on another Sony product.It wasn't the wrong choice, the Xperia Tablet S is a fantastic bit of kit, I don't have any bugs with mine (or bugs that affect me) and it wasn't purchased because of the development support.
If you want development, go with the Nexus 10, but if it's not development you want, the Xperia Tab is for you. Have had it since day 1 and love it!!!
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my
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Agreed. Battery life excluded. I like the device, I own it, but it can be underwhelming at times. Personally, I don't like the Nexus 10. Feels cheap and the outstanding specs, like screen resolution and contrast seem subpar comparing to the Xperia Tablet S, even though it embodies half the screen resolution. Seems silly, but that is what I see.
The xperia tablet is one of the best currently on the market. The only android tab that could outdo it in my mind right now is the nexus 10 because of the awesome display and ram...but no sd card slot so if you want lots of storage you have to pay 500.
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So I'm kind of amazed there isn't a thread on this rumor yet. What better way to reenter the tablet market than with a nexus! For me, personally, this is a dream come true. I think that HTC uses the best displays of any manufacture currently and I would love to see one in a tablet. Maybe a 2k slcd4?
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I am so going to get it if HTC makes the next gen n10... Boom sound front facing speakers with that aluminum metal body would be just awesome... Smart move by Google to compete with them ipads
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Considering the price of Nexus devices, I don't think HTC, if it makes the next gen Nexus 10, will use aluminum metal body. Samsung already did a good job in terms of build quality of the current Nexus 10.
Hope next gen Nexus 10 can be as light as the iPad Air.
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I am so going to get it if HTC makes the next gen n10... Boom sound front facing speakers with that aluminum metal body would be just awesome... Smart move by Google to compete with them ipads
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Can you please post link to this roumor
Thank you
gregorvu said:
Can you please post link to this roumor
Thank you
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http://news.yahoo.com/htc-reportedly-working-google-nexus-10-tablet-122516053.html
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I would take all these rumours with a pinch of salt and then add another sack of the stuff.Wasn't that long ago we were hearing various release date rumours and now we are hearing rumours of a new manufacturer.Basically Google haven't even found a supplier yet let alone a delivery date! Personally I don't think there will be a replacement hence why I bought the old nexus 10 after waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually giving up on RUMOURS of a new device coming soon.I do hope to be prooved wrong though.
I posted a comment about a future Nexus 10 when the current one ran out of stock in US. It was sometime ago, but I'd like to share how the next Nexus 10 should be for me .
(when asked what would the next Nexus 10 should have) For now I will keep my Nexus 10, it's still a beast device as I stated and I like to keep my high end devices for at least 2 years. But there are some things that could be upgraded ^^.
First - More storage. I bought the 32GB and I still think it's not enough. Probably a 64 or 128GB version would be amazing, as it's a media consumption device it requires storage, as not everyone can use cloud services, and a full HD movie is quite big.
Second - Add LTE option like they did with Nexus 7.
Third - Use Snapdragon 805 or Tegra K1 processor, they are true beasts, and tablets need to push more pixels, so a better graphics processor is important.
Fourth - If going with the Tegra K1, it would be an interesting (actually it's more of a dream of mine here, very hard for this to happen now) to have a 4K screen, current Nexus screen is already killer, a 4K would be a mass destruction device lol. While it's still a dream the 4K screen on it, they could make it LED at least, so the complaints of light bleeding would reduce drastically.
Fifth - Samsung, Asus, Sony or Motorola create it. Samsung sucks with software, but the software here would be Google, so it's no problem. Asus proved to be a great tablet developer with the last Nexus 7s. Sony has the most beautiful devices ever, and adding water resistance to a Nexus would be very cool. And Motorola developed Xoom, which is a great device and the godfather of Android tablets, would be great to see them developing a new one. (As rumors seems to be, this one won't be any true lol, but I have expectations that HTC can do a good job too).
Sixth - More RAM would be appreciated ^^'.
Seventh - More accessories at a better price would be of great use too.
And I think it's only that I can imagine for the next Nexus. There aren't main flaws on the current one now. Almost all the problems went away with the KitKat upgrade, and I'm happy with it .
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"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)
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andytl said:
I would take all these rumours with a pinch of salt and then add another sack of the stuff.Wasn't that long ago we were hearing various release date rumours and now we are hearing rumours of a new manufacturer.Basically Google haven't even found a supplier yet let alone a delivery date! Personally I don't think there will be a replacement hence why I bought the old nexus 10 after waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually giving up on RUMOURS of a new device coming soon.I do hope to be prooved wrong though.
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I expect there will be a new Nexus 10 because it is out of inventory and has been for about a month.
If they were not restocking it or replacing it with a new one then why is it even listed on the play store site and why does it say check back soon?
When they no longer make or offer something it is removed from the site.
So it seems obvious that something will replace it.
IMO, the rumors of who will build it have no basis.
The sites who post thees articles get paid by the advertisers.
To get paid they need to draw people to the site.
They write one thing one day and something totally different the next, sometimes contradicting themselves.
Personally I heard Sony will build it at Dell and label it as a Samsung tablet and sell it in an HTC box and it will run Android 7.3 (nestle crunch).
Okay okay okay, price aside, is there an android tablet that really beats the nexus 9? Spec for spec?
My iPad 2g needed desperate upgrading. I love my nexus 5. Did I make the wrong choice going to the nexus 9? I really wanted the 64bit, thinking it would be the next best thing. I don't mind spending the extra for the iPad costs, but I've been wanting the freedom android delivers.
Is the build quality that bad... It's got to be better than all plastic, ah la Samsung. I guess the higher price should suggest quality. I just wish the reviews were not overwhelmingly poor.
I really like it so far. And there is something refreshing about using android on a big screen.
On the other hand I want to have a good tablet. Should I just root a different tablet and place asop on it. One with all the specs that proves to be better or as good as the iPad.
I'm having a great experience so far, everything is working as expected and I have none of the issues reported by others. Performance rocks though it does take a while to charge.
There is a thread on satisfied owners. My experience on "who knows what to believe" is, believe everything. People aren't making up problems. Some tablets (N9) don't have them. I'm waiting for at least two more production runs before purchasing. Although it's a PITA to do so, I will return/exchange until I get one that satisfies me. I'm hoping battery charge/discharge issues will be sorted out with software. This will be my sixth Nexus device. I've only had to exchange one: N7 flo, but its touch screen issue has caused me to monitor the N9 experience before I buy. I had to send back my first Samsung Tab Pro 12.2 (for my son) for a dead pixel. Replacement was perfect.
It's hard to wait, but I'll be happier in the long run. I have my N7 FLO which I will keep. It's just so portable.
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I am a previous iPad 3 owner and I traded in it for a Nexus 9. Overall I am not regret on doing that. Only one thing, apps and quality of apps for Android tablets admittedly worse than the iOS ones.
Thanks!
xinchi said:
I am a previous iPad 3 owner and I traded in it for a Nexus 9. Overall I am not regret on doing that. Only one thing, apps and quality of apps for Android tablets admittedly worse than the iOS ones.
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Nice to know someone else jumped the itrain! That's the little reassurance i needed. I'm digging my decision more and more. I agree and wish more for the app verse, too.
So. I am in the market to buy a new tablet. I generally use a tablet for watching movies, some games and browsing the net. I ran across a brand new unopened nexus 10 32 GB on Craigslist. Got them to sell it for 275.
Question is..... Should I get the nexus 10 seeing lollipop is coming. Or should I splurge and get the tab s 10.5?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Well, i not going to talk about the price factor because i dont know your country. In my opinion, the 10 still remains a solid experience, excellent for movies, very good for browsing the web. I'm not a huge player, but it has run everything that ive throw him. I've high hopes in battery and more smotheness with lollipop, something that might arrive today. 2 years after i bought it, still remains a solid experience. In my opinion, go for it. Hope ive helped.
joao
Thanks for the reply. What are your experiences with battty life and charging times?
I live in the united States. So $275 I think is fair.
Any other thoughts.
Again, thank you guys/gals.
Keeping mine, still a good tablet for me. I'm running/testing 5.0 (lollipop) right now. Runs good, especially for a pre-release ROM.
Just my two cents worth.
JuggZaPoppiN, i'm not stock. I'm rooted, running Purity Rom, a very light and fast rom. My screen time is about 10.30, i think, but keep in mind that i dont keep it charging during the night. The charging time is long, without the pogo charger, around 5 hours. I'm from Portugal, and over here, 275 usd (a litle more than 200 euros) is a very competitive price.
I was thinking buying the nexus 9, but for me, its dificult to justify those purchase. And if you are into movies, the aspect ratio of the 9 will be a major disavantage (Black bars).
For cases, i've tried several, but i prefer the veo one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Ultra-Smart-Google-Generation/dp/B00AAV7124 In reality, the nexus is not the pretiest tablet in the market by no means, but its very very ergonomic naked, with the round soft back.
JuggZaPoppiN said:
So. I am in the market to buy a new tablet. I generally use a tablet for watching movies, some games and browsing the net. I ran across a brand new unopened nexus 10 32 GB on Craigslist. Got them to sell it for 275.
Question is..... Should I get the nexus 10 seeing lollipop is coming. Or should I splurge and get the tab s 10.5?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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got mine for 100$ on craigslist. for 275$ id recommend you to buy a refurbished samsung tab s. this tablet is too old
xuanphucn said:
got mine for 100$ on craigslist. for 275$ id recommend you to buy a refurbished samsung tab s. this tablet is too old
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Keep in mind though that the one I am buying is brand new factory sealed in the box.
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Keep in mind though that the one I am buying is brand new factory sealed in the box.
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still. the tablet is way too old. the processor is slow and old. I believe lollipop would be the last major update from Google
xuanphucn Do you fell your nexus 10 slow in what tasks?
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JuggZaPoppiN, i'm not stock. I'm rooted, running Purity Rom, a very light and fast rom. My screen time is about 10.30, i think, but keep in mind that i dont keep it charging during the night. The charging time is long, without the pogo charger, around 5 hours. I'm from Portugal, and over here, 275 usd (a litle more than 200 euros) is a very competitive price.
I was thinking buying the nexus 9, but for me, its dificult to justify those purchase. And if you are into movies, the aspect ratio of the 9 will be a major disavantage (Black bars).
For cases, i've tried several, but i prefer the veo one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Ultra-Smart-Google-Generation/dp/B00AAV7124 In reality, the nexus is not the pretiest tablet in the market by no means, but its very very ergonomic naked, with the round soft back.
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+1 on Purity. I have a nandroid of it in case I want or need to go back to 4.4.4.
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sfobrien, great rom, isn't it? just lacks in customization, but its so damn quick and responsive...
How's everyone's battery life
Considering that Lollipop should be released anyday now, if I were you, I'd hold my purchase decision until feedback from Nexus 10 users starts coming in (the official OTA I mean... not the pre-releases floating around right now).
IF Lollipop is as good as promised, then a Nexus 10 is still a good choice (it's supposed to be better on the battery and lighter OS optimized for older devices). It should give it almost a new life.
However, the last updates (4.3 and 4.4) were far from optimal on the N10 so who knows what it will be this time.
But if you need to make the decision right now and your needs are not too demanding, it's still a great device. I use it daily and still enjoy it (but then, I rarely play games on it).
Now you can buy it. Lollipop is running smoth for me, and it has a new life.
I also cannot opine about the price ranges in your country, but for what is worth, after a few days running stock Android 5, I can tell you the tablet is running smooth and I certainly could not justify purchasing another one for the time being. So, if the price is right, I believe it is still a good buy.
Thanks guys. I ended up buying it brand new for $275 and I don't regret it one bit. Tablet is extremely smooth and I love lollipop so far. Thanks for all the replies
Good to ear that!
So...how is your nexus?
With Lollipop, this Nexus 10 is reborn, insane good battery life!
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I would definitely buy the n10 again. I will probably buy two more for my kids once their kid tablets break.
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Guys,
I sent the Pixel C back. It died in 2 days. I was looking at the Sony Z4 tab along with the google one. Now I am looking back at it. Is that Sony Z4 tablet still a fantastic tablet? Issues? Just looking for overall comments before I look to find one to buy..I dont see them for sale much right now so I find it might be hard to get one anyway. But thought I would ask before I started looking..
Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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My topic My Z4 Tablet Pros and Cons gives some of my and other's thoughts that are still relevant for the most part.
Also, the tablet flies on Marshmallow. I'm still super happy with my choice.
Does anyone think they might come out with a replacement for it anytime soon?
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Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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The problem with android tablets is that they do not sell well. That causes OEMs to only release mid to low end tablets perpetuating the situation. It's a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Instead of making their tablets better so that they can sell better, they make them worse so they sell even worse than before.
That lets (as a result) old tablets to still be excellent. For example my Note Tablet is the best pen-based tablet to this day (maybe ipad pro 9.7 will change that), portable, unlike the 12inch behemoths and awesome functionality coming out of the pen.
Similarly Xperia Z4 remains even after a year of its release one of the best if not *the* best tablet, period. It's the lightest 10 incher ever created by far, making it the only choice for heavy readers. After MarshMallow some of the best battery lives in the industry, excellent screen and the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
Still whilst my wife has one, I won't buy one for myself because I don't want to support Sony's ridiculous DRM-Warranty policy. If that doesn't bother you, I don't think you can go wrong with this tablet, I'm hard pressed to find anything better (maybe ipad pro if you don't mind jailbreaking).
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[...] the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
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Excellent point.