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Hi, I live in China and recently bought a Galaxy S3 (China Unicom version). What I didnt expect is that none of the google apps or even Google play come pre-loaded. Itried installing them individually, but after intallation it doesnt open and just goes back to the homescreen. I am just not able to open any google related app even after idownload and install APK files. i ahve VPN and can access allsites, VPN won't solve the problem.
I went through some other posts and saw suggestions around rooting and installing custom roms. can someone give me some specifics please, maybe some links? THis is not about blocked access to google play, i just cant install it and get it working on my phone. I can't return it to the store (since theres no prob with it) and I don't even care about the warrantly anymore. I just want to ensure that if i root it and install something, it be the right one that doesnt clash with the version i have and doesnt brick my phone. Partiuclars below. could someone please please help?
I am desperate now! Samsung china apps are the worst!
GT-I9300, android ver 4.0.4, baseband ver ZNLG4
sruran said:
Hi, I live in China and recently bought a Galaxy S3 (China Unicom version). What I didnt expect is that none of the google apps or even Google play come pre-loaded. Itried installing them individually, but after intallation it doesnt open and just goes back to the homescreen. I am just not able to open any google related app even after idownload and install APK files. i ahve VPN and can access allsites, VPN won't solve the problem.
I went through some other posts and saw suggestions around rooting and installing custom roms. can someone give me some specifics please, maybe some links? THis is not about blocked access to google play, i just cant install it and get it working on my phone. I can't return it to the store (since theres no prob with it) and I don't even care about the warrantly anymore. I just want to ensure that if i root it and install something, it be the right one that doesnt clash with the version i have and doesnt brick my phone. Partiuclars below. could someone please please help?
I am desperate now! Samsung china apps are the worst!
GT-I9300, android ver 4.0.4, baseband ver ZNLG4
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Hi there from China..go to the stickies from this section..you will get all the information you require about rooting..then go to android development section and there you will get most of the roms you will need..now read the OP very carefully before flashing..all the instruction will be there in the op..most of the stock based roms have gapps included..for aosp/aokp Roms also flash the gapps package..
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
sruran said:
Hi, I live in China and recently bought a Galaxy S3 (China Unicom version). What I didnt expect is that none of the google apps or even Google play come pre-loaded. Itried installing them individually, but after intallation it doesnt open and just goes back to the homescreen. I am just not able to open any google related app even after idownload and install APK files. i ahve VPN and can access allsites, VPN won't solve the problem.
I went through some other posts and saw suggestions around rooting and installing custom roms. can someone give me some specifics please, maybe some links? THis is not about blocked access to google play, i just cant install it and get it working on my phone. I can't return it to the store (since theres no prob with it) and I don't even care about the warrantly anymore. I just want to ensure that if i root it and install something, it be the right one that doesnt clash with the version i have and doesnt brick my phone. Partiuclars below. could someone please please help?
I am desperate now! Samsung china apps are the worst!
GT-I9300, android ver 4.0.4, baseband ver ZNLG4
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Yeah, they kinda suck ... except for their camera software ... It kind of rocks.
You will need to root and Rom your phone. There will be advice on how to root in the stickies as mentioned. I did it as a noob and found the task nerve-racking but in the end quite fun. I also cheated a bit and practiced on cracked open an old HTC desire and popped its cherry with Cynogen nightly. Anyway, once you root then you will be able to back up, although I don't know if there is any point to backing up instruction as your phone kinda sucks at the moment and I imagine you probably can't even get a back up app onto your phone.
This whole deal could take up a day of research and downloading and messing around. Be prepared to be without your phone for a day and to put in some time and effort - even if you are a genius, you'll have difficulty. Also, despite people saying doing it with a mac is easy - I found the opposite to be true and I use my mac waaaaaaaaaaay more than my pc. Set aside a Sat or Sunday to get lost in the world of Android. Hopefullly, it will only take you a short time, but just in case... Anyway, it is worth it.
I am using Omega ROM - you can find it in this forum somewhere. I love it - it has Google play App. I initially tried others but I found I missed the samsung camera software functionality too much.
I still need my foreign sim card for some apps and a vpn is useful too. but there is no way that I know of easily getting around the Chinese limitations... Unless you can read simplified Chinese well enough to use the Chinese versions of Google Play that must be plentiful.
Lastly, If you are a complete techno spaz. Scrap what I said, and just find a black market and get it rooted there. I don't know what it costs, but it should be cheap.
Good luck.
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Oh and make sure your phone is compatible with the rom and directions ... mine was a GT-i9300 there are other models and apparently it makes a big difference. It should tell you in settings/about device/model number.
Hello guys,
I tried to restore my Neobox E-Fox2012 with MTK 6573 and android 2.3.4 but now it's blocked on start screen! :crying:
How i can flash a stock rom (or any other rom) to restore my phone?
There's a tutorial?
Thanks a lot for help!
PS: sorry for my bad english! :angel:
legolas7 said:
Hello guys,
I tried to restore my Neobox E-Fox2012 with MTK 6573 and android 2.3.4 but now it's blocked on start screen! :crying:
How i can flash a stock rom (or any other rom) to restore my phone?
There's a tutorial?
Thanks a lot for help!
PS: sorry for my bad english! :angel:
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I do not have Neobox myself, but I got curious about what phone that was and did search around for some info about it.
I found several hits with frustrated users like yourself have bricked their phone and was looking for help. The manufactor have no website or support for the phone, so it looks like its much up to the users themselves to help eachothers.
But I think I did find one page that I hope will help you to fix your phone. Someone hava had similar problems and have mad a blog about it to help other neobox mt6573 users.
He have also posted a link so you can download a copy of his own dumped rom, so that others can fix their phones by flashing it.
Here is the link to the blog:
<link removed due to forum rules, users below 10 posts.....>
Also check the blogpost with technical info and pictures of the phone so that you can verify that this is the same phone.
Here is a link to a guide for flashing rom (should be the same procedure as for mt6573 phones):
<link removed due to forum rules, users below 10 posts.....>
You will need some MediaTek USB VCOM drivers, but these I think you can find many places for download. (google it)
ps. I tried to download his rom dump to check the files. This is not a complete rom, because the preloader is not flashable. But I think this is normal for these kind of backups. I did do backup on my MT6575 phone and the preloaded was missing there too.
But dont worry, it should be enaugh to restore your phone.
Also you will need to use the MTK ROM Studio to create a scatter txt file and put in the same dir as the rom.
If you dont have that tool, I did create a scatter file for you:
View attachment Links_and_Scatter.rar
Note that I was not allowed to post direct links in my post, since I dont have 10 posts yet on this forum. So I have included the links in the attachment file.
Hope this helps you
amyren said:
I do not have Neobox myself, but I got curious about what phone that was and did search around for some info about it.
I found several hits with frustrated users like yourself have bricked their phone and was looking for help. The manufactor have no website or support for the phone, so it looks like its much up to the users themselves to help eachothers.
But I think I did find one page that I hope will help you to fix your phone. Someone hava had similar problems and have mad a blog about it to help other neobox mt6573 users.
He have also posted a link so you can download a copy of his own dumped rom, so that others can fix their phones by flashing it.
Here is the link to the blog:
<link removed due to forum rules, users below 10 posts.....>
Also check the blogpost with technical info and pictures of the phone so that you can verify that this is the same phone.
Here is a link to a guide for flashing rom (should be the same procedure as for mt6573 phones):
<link removed due to forum rules, users below 10 posts.....>
You will need some MediaTek USB VCOM drivers, but these I think you can find many places for download. (google it)
ps. I tried to download his rom dump to check the files. This is not a complete rom, because the preloader is not flashable. But I think this is normal for these kind of backups. I did do backup on my MT6575 phone and the preloaded was missing there too.
But dont worry, it should be enaugh to restore your phone.
Also you will need to use the MTK ROM Studio to create a scatter txt file and put in the same dir as the rom.
If you dont have that tool, I did create a scatter file for you:
View attachment 1710950
Note that I was not allowed to post direct links in my post, since I dont have 10 posts yet on this forum. So I have included the links in the attachment file.
Hope this helps you
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Thanks a lot for you help!
I had already found this blog and using the dump with SP Flash Tool i "reborn" the phone.
This isn't my phone, but the phone of my friend that doesn't understand nothing around flashing, rom etc etc.
So if someone will use this method i can say that it works!
See you soon guys.
And many thanks to amyren for his research!
Dear all
Please help
I have accidentally deleted the whole content of /system/bin and /system/app of my android tablet running 4.3
I don't have a back up so can someone please post the contents of these two directories for android 4.3 so I can push them using ADB
ammcom said:
Dear all
Please help
I have accidentally deleted the whole content of /system/bin and /system/app of my android tablet running 4.3
I don't have a back up so can someone please post the contents of these two directories for android 4.3 so I can push them using ADB
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These kinds of files are typically very specific to your tablet, and not just a general Android 4.3 kind of thing. Please let us know what kind of tablet and model # so we can attempt to help.
es0tericcha0s said:
These kinds of files are typically very specific to your tablet, and not just a general Android 4.3 kind of thing. Please let us know what kind of tablet and model # so we can attempt to help.
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It is china N8000 A13
I didn't have any luck finding the original firmware for it. Doesn't mean it's not out there, just that there are so many different generic Allwinner tablets and other things called N8000, that it's like looking for a car in the parking lot and all you know about it is that it is red and has 4 doors. It's also important to know other info about the board to make sure the files you get will not affect stuff like the touchscreen and camera modules.
You're certain it has 4.3? I couldn't find any Allwinner a13 tablets that have 4.3 besides with custom roms like CM10.2...
es0tericcha0s said:
I didn't have any luck finding the original firmware for it. Doesn't mean it's not out there, just that there are so many different generic Allwinner tablets and other things called N8000, that it's like looking for a car in the parking lot and all you know about it is that it is red and has 4 doors. It's also important to know other info about the board to make sure the files you get will not affect stuff like the touchscreen and camera modules.
You're certain it has 4.3? I couldn't find any Allwinner a13 tablets that have 4.3 besides with custom roms like CM10.2...
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I am sure it is 4.3
It is a 9 inch tablet with a strange 800x450 dp screen
Can I use filed from another a13 rom that has 4.3 ?
I really appreciate you help
ammcom said:
I am sure it is 4.3
It is a 9 inch tablet with a strange 800x450 dp screen
Can I use filed from another a13 rom that has 4.3 ?
I really appreciate you help
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Often times that will work if it has the same chip and resolution, but possible that other stuff might break. Unfortunately there usually isn't a way to tell unless someone specifically states they have had success with X firmware on Y tablet. You might find something here : http://tabletrom.blogspot.com/search/label/Allwinner
es0tericcha0s said:
Often times that will work if it has the same chip and resolution, but possible that other stuff might break. Unfortunately there usually isn't a way to tell unless someone specifically states they have had success with X firmware on Y tablet. You might find something here :
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I need the files inside /system/bin but not all the system partition as the other parts are safe, I think these files are almost related to the type of the processor since it is just the executables of the OS such as the shell or other bins, so why are those files device dependent I can't get it
ammcom said:
I need the files inside /system/bin but not all the system partition as the other parts are safe, I think these files are almost related to the type of the processor since it is just the executables of the OS such as the shell or other bins, so why are those files device dependent I can't get it
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Different systems can have different executables. My system/bin surely looks different than yours. Plus you said you are missing /system/app folder files which are very often device specific for the more important ones like phone, messaging, etc.
es0tericcha0s said:
Different systems can have different executables. My system/bin surely looks different than yours. Plus you said you are missing /system/app folder files which are very often device specific for the more important ones like phone, messaging, etc.
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My device is nuclear_ococci-eng 4.3 jdq39 and the model is N8000 can you just please guide me to find the best firmware anyway?
I think I might have found it: https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=56cK1fCrQx+iejYDh3JjzlMAT+gQ8+jcdqrpynbg3FQ=
They said it should be loaded with LiveSuite. Have no clue if it works, but found it on a Russian site where they really seemed to know about all these off brand things.
es0tericcha0s said:
I think I might have found it: https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=56cK1fCrQx+iejYDh3JjzlMAT+gQ8+jcdqrpynbg3FQ=
They said it should be loaded with LiveSuite. Have no clue if it works, but found it on a Russian site where they really seemed to know about all these off brand things.
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I really appreciate your help
Thank you very much
I am going to try it
You're welcome. I learned a few things along the way, so no big deal. Good luck and let us know how it goes in case someone else in your situation stumbles across the thread.
es0tericcha0s said:
You're welcome. I learned a few things along the way, so no big deal. Good luck and let us know how it goes in case someone else in your situation stumbles across the thread.
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After trying to flash the image using livesuit it is failing
It says upgrade failed 0x163 with strange letters after it, now the device is completely dead, I don,t know if the battery can be charged when there is no firmware
Any suggestions please
Sorry man. Guess it isn't the right one. The thread described your tablet perfectly so not really sure what's up. Hopefully someone else can chime in.
Could be the wrong version of the program, or wrong rom.
Do you have any other firmware folders that are old? If so, you should delete.
Did you have any problems extracting it - any errors?
Did you have over 50% battery before starting?
es0tericcha0s said:
Sorry man. Guess it isn't the right one. The thread described your tablet perfectly so not really sure what's up. Hopefully someone else can chime in.
Could be the wrong version of the program, or wrong rom.
Do you have any other firmware folders that are old? If so, you should delete.
Did you have any problems extracting it - any errors?
Did you have over 50% battery before starting?
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I don't know if it a battery thing as I didn't check the battery nor I can know if it can be charged if there is no firmware
Anyway can you please point me to the original post so that they may mentioned somthing else
Thank you
Start of the original thread about random off brand Chinese tablets here:
http://ublaze.ru/forum/topic1232.html
Post with the beginning of the search for the firmware of a tablet that shares the same specs as yours here:
http://ublaze.ru/forum/topic1232-1180.html#wrapper
Mostly follow the interactions with Lirik after that and that's where I got the info from.
Maybe if you or someone you know speaks Russian, would probably make it a bit easier to understand. Google Translate has a tough time translating languages with different alphabets.
es0tericcha0s said:
Start of the original thread about random off brand Chinese tablets here:
http://ublaze.ru/forum/topic1232.html
Post with the beginning of the search for the firmware of a tablet that shares the same specs as yours here:
http://ublaze.ru/forum/topic1232-1180.html#wrapper
Mostly follow the interactions with Lirik after that and that's where I got the info from.
Maybe if you or someone you know speaks Russian, would probably make it a bit easier to understand. Google Translate has a tough time translating languages with different alphabets.
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Thank you for the links
I have found this firmware and it may work for me
https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=VjdP1S5yElCe3q4SUVldDVqpPoK9wj3YMzoWy5TIcfs=
But I can not download the file do you know some other source?
ammcom said:
Thank you for the links
I have found this firmware and it may work for me
https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=VjdP1S5yElCe3q4SUVldDVqpPoK9wj3YMzoWy5TIcfs=
But I can not download the file do you know some other source?
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I'd try to reach out to the moderator there that goes by Blaze. Seems like he would be the go to guy for these things.
es0tericcha0s said:
I'd try to reach out to the moderator there that goes by Blaze. Seems like he would be the go to guy for these things.
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I have found another link so I downloaded the firmware and flashed it, the tablet is back to life but it is android 4.0.4 , anyway it is working well, the camera is working well, the touchscreen is reversed and shifted but I solved it by editing script.bin
Any way I have contacted the provider of the tablet and he promised to provide the original firmware, I am going to upload it as I get it so maybe someone else may need it
The last tip is never mess up with your device unless you have a nandroid backup
Hi, I'm trying to put (run) a service on my replica Samsung S5 (MTK6582) which I bought from China.
But every time I try to put the service on, the settings crashes. (settings-services).
Has any of you met this kind of problem before?
If so, can you please give me some ideas how to fix this issue.
Oh I don't know if this is important, but the phone runs on android 4.2 and installed firmware (Rom) is SM-G900S_V05.
Thanks in advanced !
Edwin501 said:
Hi, I'm trying to put (run) a service on my replica Samsung S5 (MTK6582) which I bought from China.
But every time I try to put the service on, the settings crashes. (settings-services).
Has any of you met this kind of problem before?
If so, can you please give me some ideas how to fix this issue.
Oh I don't know if this is important, but the phone runs on android 4.2 and installed firmware (Rom) is SM-G900S_V05.
Thanks in advanced !
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You might be very hard pressed to find anyone that can help with this. Very few people get clones and no developers get them. The main issue is the hardware is never what it says it is and the software is almost always the same, they will make minor edits to make it look like the os they claim it is and then change a text file to show a different OS version.
My advise would be to pull a logcat and post that. This will atleast get you what is erroring out.
zelendel said:
You might be very hard pressed to find anyone that can help with this. Very few people get clones and no developers get them. The main issue is the hardware is never what it says it is and the software is almost always the same, they will make minor edits to make it look like the os they claim it is and then change a text file to show a different OS version.
My advise would be to pull a logcat and post that. This will atleast get you what is erroring out.
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Thanks for your reply Zelendel.
I just flashed another firmware which I found at NeedRom, but the problem still exist.
How to get a logcat ? do I need to install ADB or some other app?
Edwin501 said:
Thanks for your reply Zelendel.
I just flashed another firmware which I found at NeedRom, but the problem still exist.
How to get a logcat ? do I need to install ADB or some other app?
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Had you followed the rules you agreed to when you joined you would not be asking me that question.
There are hundreds of ways to do it. There are apps and adb.
Ill be honest I think your issue is gonna be the OS itself.
Thanks again for your reply !
You are right, I haven't read the rules etc.
I just came here for some fast help.
But no fuss, I will read it someday and study the adb or other app and come here again.
hi
bought this 8 inch tablet from Asda in Uk for my young lad and it updated the firmware straight away here is a copy of the image
http://hugefiles.net/kyypdhg855a0
hugefiles.net/kyypdhg855a0
if anybody needs it
it is a fairly clean rom only has an asda widget which is uninstallable,
cant tell you too much about it as he smashed it about 2 weeks after getting it and it hasnt worked since
i think it was the lollipop update, the pad was pretty decent for £50
knightsbane said:
hi
bought this 8 inch tablet from Asda in Uk for my young lad and it updated the firmware straight away here is a copy of the image
http://hugefiles.net/kyypdhg855a0
hugefiles.net/kyypdhg855a0
if anybody needs it
it is a fairly clean rom only has an asda widget which is uninstallable,
cant tell you too much about it as he smashed it about 2 weeks after getting it and it hasnt worked since
i think it was the lollipop update, the pad was pretty decent for £50
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Hello,
Thank you very much for sharing the file. The links seem to be dead, as in they're no longer uploaded/accessible from the URL you have provided. Do you think you could share the file again? I apologise for any inconvenience.
Or could anyone share the stock ROM from the P791 tablet from ASDA?
Thank you and kind regards.
HiddenG said:
Hello,
Thank you very much for sharing the file. The links seem to be dead, as in they're no longer uploaded/accessible from the URL you have provided. Do you think you could share the file again? I apologise for any inconvenience.
Or could anyone share the stock ROM from the P791 tablet from ASDA?
Thank you and kind regards.
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im not sure what id did with it, but ill try and find it again...
HiddenG said:
Hello,
Thank you very much for sharing the file. The links seem to be dead, as in they're no longer uploaded/accessible from the URL you have provided. Do you think you could share the file again? I apologise for any inconvenience.
Or could anyone share the stock ROM from the P791 tablet from ASDA?
Thank you and kind regards.
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i havent got the file anymore - i originally got it from the settings in the tablet,
settings - about tablets - system updates
it just downloaded the file via browser to downloads folder as i recall, and you copy it out before it detects the update file is there.
it downloads from ftp://mypolaroidtablet.com but i cant access that from my laptop without a username and password
i dont recall it asking when accessing from the tablet, which i cant do as its been dropped a couple of times and now the screen is cracked and the wifi doesnt work
regards
k
http://southerntelecom.com/polaroidsupport/updates.html - some update files but doesnt seem to list this one, unless you find one that is compatible
http://southerntelecom.com/polaroidsupport/index.html - more files including factory resets but again this one not listed
Hey there, I just got one of these p791 Polaroid tablets for Christmas this year.
When I try to do the usual update method (Settings > About tablet > System update) it locks up and I have to force it to stop. So no auto-updates for me.
Currently stuck on KK 4.4.2
Is there anyone or anyway to get this ROM so I can manually install it, or anyone who's had this problem and fixed it so I can just update my tablet.
Bigredmusey said:
Hey there, I just got one of these p791 Polaroid tablets for Christmas this year.
When I try to do the usual update method (Settings > About tablet > System update) it locks up and I have to force it to stop. So no auto-updates for me.
Currently stuck on KK 4.4.2
Is there anyone or anyway to get this ROM so I can manually install it, or anyone who's had this problem and fixed it so I can just update my tablet.
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Hi there,
I would like to ask you if it is possible to back up your firmware and upload it. I manage to brick mine, and I am not able to find anywhere the original firmware, in order to restore it
Regards
i need this modle tab firmware
i all so try google bot not found and web and link for this modle
any one uplode new link please
thanks
I don't know if any of you still use the rom, but here it is, it's kitkat, I don't think this tablet ever had lollipop.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgjvkl000qcf31x/Polaroid-P791-update.zip?dl=1
Thank you very much, i just ressurected my tablet!!!!
p791 flash rom
syphonen said:
Thank you very much, i just ressurected my tablet!!!!
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Can you please share how were you able to fix it? as i've got the same P791 Tablet dead and needs flashing rom. Any help would be appriciated. thanks
kof4eva said:
Can you please share how were you able to fix it? as i've got the same P791 Tablet dead and needs flashing rom. Any help would be appriciated. thanks
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Hopefully you already got it sorted.. However, if not then you may want to know the tools usually used to fix this device are:
RKBatchTool,
AndroidTool,
Or PhoenixSuit (although I've not managed to get this one to work)
You can do a quick Google search on any of the tools mentioned above as well as find information on the installation process including the flashing of the P791 device.
I wasn't able to get mine turned on again but you may be able to. (Years ago I used these tools and got it working again, but can't seem to do it this time, maybe mines just had it. I think these are the only options for us though and I remember the annoying task of trying to figure it out as the specific device you're talking about, the one from Asda isn't hardly mentioned nor is it even supported by manufactures anymore so now I have an account on here I thought I'd just post this reply ?
Xpre said:
Hopefully you already got it sorted.. However, if not then you may want to know the tools usually used to fix this device are:
RKBatchTool,
AndroidTool,
Or PhoenixSuit (although I've not managed to get this one to work)
You can do a quick Google search on any of the tools mentioned above as well as find information on the installation process including the flashing of the P791 device.
I wasn't able to get mine turned on again but you may be able to. (Years ago I used these tools and got it working again, but can't seem to do it this time, maybe mines just had it. I think these are the only options for us though and I remember the annoying task of trying to figure it out as the specific device you're talking about, the one from Asda isn't hardly mentioned nor is it even supported by manufactures anymore so now I have an account on here I thought I'd just post this reply ?
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**Update**
Since writing my reply to your OP I decided to give it another go and was successful.
I used AndroidTools to complete the process of flashing the stock update.img via the "Firmware" tab. If you need any help doing it feel free to reply to this post!
Xpre said:
**Update**
Since writing my reply to your OP I decided to give it another go and was successful.
I used AndroidTools to complete the process of flashing the stock update.img via the "Firmware" tab. If you need any help doing it feel free to reply to this post!
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hey, ive been looking for help for a very long time now trying to get my tablet working, got in touch with the support team at Polaroid and they told me i was practically on my own because they dont have a copy of the firmware but now ive found this thread im hoping that you could help me, i dont really know how to get to firmware from the link in this thread to work on my tablet, ive tried loading it from an sd card on the tablet but it fails, i know im probably doing it wrong so some help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance