Having read of all the quality issues of the Z2 I am now overly concerned to make sure that mine is as it should be.
Build quality is spot on, speakers are great and screen is excellent.
The only thing I want to check is whether it is normal to be able to clearly see the digitizer grid on the screen when turning it to an angle with light shining on it.
Having been used to AMOLED screens for the last few years this type of screen is new to me so am wondering whether it is just part of the technology used for the screen.
Any piece of mind is appreciated.
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I have noticed that yesterday when using it on bright sunlight. At certain angle you can see small dots. It isn't too bad, though...
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I had s3 before and I only see screen matrix in both devices.
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I have a Nexus 4 right now which has an IPS display and I can say that I can see my digitizer grid when in direct sunlight. I'll be receiving my Z2 in a few weeks and I would expect it to be the same.
Thanks guys for your wisdom. I did think it may have been due to the technology used rather than a defect but wanted a second opinion.
By the way it is a fantastic phone [emoji6]
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I also have this and it's slightly annoying. I think I'll just let it go
Have found a solution to the grid issue...throw away the Sony supplied screen protector and put a different one on.
It seems the Sony supplied one has a matte finish which as well as making the screen look dull it also shows up the grid lines.
Have just changed it for a cheapo one and the grid lines are barely visible and the screen is a lot more vibrant
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I thought they dropped the screen protector on the z2; I'm talking about the plastic film with the Sony logo printed.
Can you give me some precisions ?
You're correct, there is no plastic film with the Sony logo on the Z2 but they do give you a screen protector in the box. It seems to be an anti glare one that I found considerably dampens the quality of the screen.
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Ok thanks
I didn't notice the screenprotector in my box.
Just wrote a lengthy message but tapatalk somehow messed it up.
I'll just say that I don't use a screen protector and I can see the grid in bright lighting (basically anywhere in public, schools, malls etc.), and in direct sunlight I also see the dots.
I compared the screen with a S4, S3, iPhone 5S and C and some other cheaper phones, and the grid wasn't visible in any of them. In that lighting I could however see the grid and the dots in my Z2's screen. Not pleased. Also a friend with a nexus 5 said he has no such problems.
I think I can see the grid way too easily. In bright light and brightness at 100% I can see them even when the screen is on when the phone moves and catches a ray of light.
The next few days will determine wether I can live with this issue or nor. At the moment it isn't looking so good.
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Hey,
I was watching the videos and the hands-on pictures of galaxy s3 and i noticed that there's an ugly gap between the screen and the bezel and its really bothering me, especially on the white version of the phone. Can anyone tell me why is it that way? I tried searching for the answer but couldn't find any so i decided to ask it here.
Thanks for the replies in advance.
I thing every phone has this black gap
not as much as s3
I too noticed the gap and it is much more visible in white sgs3 than blue. lets see what the s3 users say
It's there, but I don't even notice unless I focus on it. The screen is way to good to focus on a small black gap.
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I didn't realize it was there until reading this post ;-) Non-issue IMO.
BTW I have the white SGIII.
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jowabi said:
I didn't realize it was there until reading this post ;-) Non-issue IMO.
BTW I have the white SGIII.
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you know i was deciding to change my mind and wait for pebble blue color bcoz i thought that gap would be an issue. Thanks for clarifying.
Literally didn't notice it until you pointed it out. I have the white and its fine. Probably less noticeable on the blue.
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but its so visible lol howcome you didnt notice that 0_o
Have you held a S III in your own hands yet? Videos/photos don't show the real beauty of the phone. Don't be so quick to judge
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I noticed the gaps on my first S3, i went for a replacement this morning because of very obvious spots on my display under black background. Suprisingly, the new unit does not have gaps between the bezel and screen. It fits nicely.
I hade this gap too, should i return it ? I have a smaller One side of the bigger that are under the home button
I had this gap on my White S3, its like screen was coming off and i can see small amount of glu coming out of it.
i went back to shop and exchange with new one which is fine no issues now.
I too never noticed the gap until this thread...not an issue IMO (I have a white S3)
Sorry to revive this thread but I also have this under my home button (though not nearly as bad as mani79 had). I just see a small "ridge" between the screen and plastic bezel.
The display model at my local AT&T store has it as well.
in having a look at my white s3, i dont have any issues whatso ever, not even a small amount of lifting or seperation. Must just be luck of the draw
Notice the ridge between the chrome and glass in this stock photo? That's what I'm talking about. That little ridge.
just check, mine looks ok
I have the pebble blue version and a small gap on the bottom - it isnt noticeable though but I will keep an eye on it as I wont be happy if it starts filling up with dust and becomes unsightly.
This phone has a gap similar but slightly worse than mine. Notice the gap on the right and bottom of the screen.
I just bought a s3 and noticed that in the dark if I use an app with black background or a wallpaper there come Some strange dots on the screen, is that normal and could someone please check about they also have it on their s3
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Yeah its something to do with amoled displays. My galaxy nexus has the same type of splotches. From the research I've done they are pretty common. I've seen some pretty bad ones. Mine isn't that bad I have 3 towards the lower middle part of the screen. It looks like this
-_- lol. I've seen others much worse. You can also notice them slightly when the screen dims if you know where to look. It is really annoying but from what I can tell its pretty common on amoled screens. You can Google amoled black spots to see just how widespread it is.
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Ok thanks I just got so nervous, I was thinking it was something more worse. But Should I go to the phone shop and remind them about the spots so they could fix it or will they just say that's a common problem we can't do anything about it
It's nothing that can be repared since it's a manufacturing inconsistency but not a defect per se.
Usually they are only visible in total darkness with lowest brightness settings on black backgrounds which is not that much of an annoyance
since you usually don't stare for hours on black screens. (Well at least I don't)
It's sometimes annoying, yes, but that's the downside of having low-power high-resolution displays without Ghosting problems.
anyone else seen their phones just start showing lines of dots across the screen randomly, particularly under high brightness? nothing funky is turned on in developer's settings so I doubt it's software.
I'm using autobrightness, it bothers me a little. hardware problem ythink? should I take it to Sony?
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anyone else seen their phones just start showing lines of dots across the screen randomly, particularly under high brightness? nothing funky is turned on in developer's settings so I doubt it's software.
I'm using autobrightness, it bothers me a little. hardware problem ythink? should I take it to Sony?
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You're seeing the touch sensors that are built in to the screen. I've seen them on every capacitive LCD phone I've had at times, but they are definitely more noticeable on the Z2. Exchanging it won't help, sorry.
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You're seeing the touch sensors that are built in to the screen. I've seen them on every capacitive LCD phone I've had at times, but they are definitely more noticeable on the Z2. Exchanging it won't help, sorry.
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well if it's nothing to worry about, it's all good.
Seen the exact same thing on mine. Even when it's not that bright you can clearly see the digitizer (is that right?). it's that visible you can see it's made up of columns of tiny rectangles. It's worse on a dark background or when the screen is off. And those dots appear more when direct sunlight hits the screen. Luckily it's not just me either then, thought I'd got a duff phone!
Should have seen the z1 digitizer, crazy amount of zigzag lines all over the place.
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same thing w/ z ultra
Z2 screen flicker with vertical lines
I think I have the same problem with my new xperia z2 phone.
It happens several times per day (more than 10 times). The screen shows vertical lines, across the screen. I can see the pixels in the line. Also the colors change. All this for less than a second and then everything return to normal.
I wondering if this is a hardware or software problem, and if it can be fixed or no.
Thanks
Same story on my Z (6603), been an issue since day 1, under sunlight its annoying but not much u can do nor nothing to stress about
Just received by OP2 today. Initial thoughts are that it looks and feels very similar to OPO but the screen is a definite step backwards. Colors seem washed out, and even at full brightness it is dimmer then my S6 at ~40% brightness. Viewing angles also seem poor.
In my mind this is a bigger issue than lack of NFC or quick charging. The screen is the one thing you're constantly looking say on a phone, not some feature. It almost seems like the screen on this phone was an afterthought.
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Looks great here.
Coming from Note 5 it looked a little washed out at first. I've changed wallpaper to a bright one and not as bad.
I'm still happy with the screen.
U have to use it and it's never gonna match up to a nexus 6 or an s6 as they had QHD but I've had my op2 over a week now and it's great just go on zedge and load some wallpapers..
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AMOLED screens have infinite contrast which makes them bright and punchy. Going back to just about any LCD it will look washed out.
KCAL COLOR PROFILE Amoled Style:
Colors: 255,255,255
Saturation: 285
Hue: 0
Display: 255
Contrast: 264
Gamma: 0
Much better!
IMO screen of OPT is a vast improvement compared to OPO.
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Yes the screen is washed out compared to my note 5....not surprising really given the technology. However the more annoying screen issue is the constant dimming of the screen when darker screens are presented even when the adaptive brightness is off. The screen is constantly fluctuating and it bothers the heck out of me. Might need to use a custom rom just to get rid of it. Or sell the phone. Whichever comes first. Haha.
I'm disappointed as well, coming from the OPO. The lack of color tuning - no, that placebo slider in O2 2.1 doesn't do anything - leaves the screen with a too low gamma and too high color temperature, resulting in washed-out and cool-looking images. Stock OPO wasn't that great, but at least could be tweaked. No, I'm not looking for the overhyped Samsung AMOLED look that people equate with proper color rendition. I'm a photographer and all you need to do is put the same photos up on a computer monitor - even a business grade one - as on the phone to see how lackluster it is. By itself, it doesn't look terrible, but it's clearly not accurate.
I've got my opo2 yesterday and:
1. Screen is yellowish on the bottom! I read about it before, it was opo1 issue, but it seems to be opo2 issue too :////
2. Yeah, colors are washed out as hell comparing to my last phone - Samsung Galaxy s4 (but now white is white at least ) . Btw Is there any way to set contrast and saturation like on opo1? Why they don't include it for opo2 rom?
I compare the screens of my OP1 and OP2 and i need to say that is yellowish con OP2, isn't pure white and thats a very fault, i think that of warm colors.
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Just received by OP2 today. Initial thoughts are that it looks and feels very similar to OPO but the screen is a definite step backwards. Colors seem washed out, and even at full brightness it is dimmer then my S6 at ~40% brightness. Viewing angles also seem poor.
In my mind this is a bigger issue than lack of NFC or quick charging. The screen is the one thing you're constantly looking say on a phone, not some feature. It almost seems like the screen on this phone was an afterthought.
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I've got my opo2 yesterday and:
1. Screen is yellowish on the bottom! I read about it before, it was opo1 issue, but it seems to be opo2 issue too :////
2. Yeah, colors are washed out as hell comparing to my last phone - Samsung Galaxy s4 (but now white is white at least ) . Btw Is there any way to set contrast and saturation like on opo1? Why they don't include it for opo2 rom?
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Have either of you tried the 2.1 update with the new cool/warm display slider? Curious if that helped at all.
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Have either of you tried the 2.1 update with the new cool/warm display slider? Curious if that helped at all.
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Well, not at all... Unless I slide it 100% to the right, then whole screen is yellowish and bottom part is even more :/
I'm hearing many complaints about the screen from folks who haven't removed the factory pre-installed hazy plastic screen protector, either because they don't realize it's there or if they do don't imagine it makes much difference. Captain Obvious' pro-tip : take it off, the difference is huge (or YUGE if you're from Brooklyn).
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Even indoors, if the screen gets hit with direct light, there is a clearly visible crosshatch pattern across the whole display. Anyone else notice this?
Got to say I'm not too impressed with the screen quality. Light bleed, dead pixels and now this. My much cheaper Redmi 1s has none of these issues. Sure, the colours aren't as vibrant but not sure which I'd choose given the choice.
Don't see any of this, perfect picture from every angle and every light condition
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There is nothing in the screen which unimpressive but If you you are expecting S6 or Z5 level screen then you are expecting too much and than you bought wrong one, just buy G4 S6 or Z5 if you want everything impressive except price
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Don't see any of this, perfect picture from every angle and every light condition
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There is nothing in the screen which unimpressive but If you you are expecting S6 or Z5 level screen then you are expecting too much and than you bought wrong one, just buy G4 S6 or Z5 if you want everything impressive except price
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If you get direct light on the screen, you don't see the digitizer? I noticed it within a couple mins of using phone and wasn't looking for it. Never seen a digitizer so easily noticeable before.
I don't think its too much to expect at this price a screen without noticeable light bleeding, dead pixels etc. Honestly I think they used the European promotion to shift these phones with slightly subpar displays. Btw, I think you are overrating Sony's screens. They are known for the same issues I noticed on this Honor 7, even on their flagships.
I noticed this also but it happened to me after I removed stock "screen protector" and replaced with Nilkin tempered glass. I quess stock screen protector somehow filtered grid away.
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I noticed this also but it happened to me after I removed stock "screen protector" and replaced with Nilkin tempered glass. I quess stock screen protector somehow filtered grid away.
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I still have stock screen protector and also see it. I guess its just coincidence you noticed only after installing Nillkin.
I am very critcal when it comes to display, both with computers and smaller screens. Had there been a visible grid on my H7 I would have seen it, no doubt at all. I never could stand the Sony Trinitron support wires at the old CRT monitors, and a lot of people.never saw them!
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Can't really think of a touchscreen phone I have owned where I couldn't see the digitiser at some point, at the right angle, in the right light.
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Can't really think of a touchscreen phone I have owned where I couldn't see the digitiser at some point, at the right angle, in the right light.
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I noticed it within 5 seconds of taking the phone out of the box when the screen was tilted towards a light bulb. The digitizier of the Honor 7 seems unique in that it's very visible in artificial indoor lighting.
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I noticed it within 5 seconds of taking the phone out of the box when the screen was tilted towards a light bulb. The digitizier of the Honor 7 seems unique in that it's very visible in artificial indoor lighting.
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You must clearly, no doubt, have an other screen/digitizer combo than I have, that's for sure!
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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Sorry, yes I did not get your intended message then! [emoji4]
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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I have several phones and never seen the digitizer except in bright sunlight. With the Honor 7 I noticed it indoors immediately. Even checking side by side now in same conditions, I can't see the digitizer on any of them except the Honor 7. The screen looks like it has a texture to it when light hits it, not like the usual barely noticeable digitizer pattern. I agree that its not really an issue though, more of an observation.
I think honor 7 is one of the best phones I have had for this. I have just spent a few moments trying to see it and can't. I have always been able to see it before. I still have the supplied protector on also, if that makes a difference.
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I think honor 7 is one of the best phones I have had for this. I have just spent a few moments trying to see it and can't. I have always been able to see it before. I still have the supplied protector on also, if that makes a difference.
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Check indoors at night time. Also at night it is visible with high brightness on white background, it you look closely.
Yes, your right, I can see them too.. But I had to put the display INTO my eyes that I was able to see them.. :silly:
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Yes, your right, I can see them too.. But I had to put the display INTO my eyes that I was able to see them.. :silly:
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Well.. into your eyes for straight ahead but tilted at light you can see from normal distance. It is minor issue though. I'm more annoyed with my dead pixel
When I saw your post I started looking for it, with different angles, different lights, etc... I can't see it !
I remember that it was sometimes visible on my Galaxy Note 2 and LG G3, but only with intense sunlight so I'll look again on the Honor 7 next summer I guess
I think the general product quality is the main factor, for example, I often see it (even indoors) on my Onda V989, which is a 130$ chinese tablet. (The tablet is great, but the screen has a weak max brightness).
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When I saw your post I started looking for it, with different angles, different lights, etc... I can't see it !
I remember that it was sometimes visible on my Galaxy Note 2 and LG G3, but only with intense sunlight so I'll look again on the Honor 7 next summer I guess
I think the general product quality is the main factor, for example, I often see it (even indoors) on my Onda V989, which is a 130$ chinese tablet. (The tablet is great, but the screen has a weak max brightness).
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It is very different looking than any other digitizer, so maybe you are looking for the wrong thing. It is not dots, and not a normal digitizer pattern. It looks more like a light texture on the screen. In daylight it creates a rainbow effect.
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It is very different looking than any other digitizer, so maybe you are looking for the wrong thing. It is not dots, and not a normal digitizer pattern. It looks more like a light texture on the screen. In daylight it creates a rainbow effect.
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I'll check as soon as possible !