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In a world of trouble now. been on sd 1.9.0 (initially on 318 official), everything was great for some time, then, after a month or two, phone started acting funny (frequent random reboots, hangs, could not start for hour or two when got into dell logo loop...), so i decided to do factory reset. did it and after that could not install any app or recover any titanium backuped apps. when installing any app, install process will continue endlessly, with progress bar always on start (but not freezed, bar is moving, but there is no progress). same thing with titanium backups - could not make any restore - also it starts, but no progress.
later tried new rom flash (sd 1.9.0), then 1.8.1, then 318, then simplestreak 1.2, then again 1.9.0, all with factory resets - could not fix my problem - could not install or make recovery.
hardware-wise all seems without malfunctions. been thinking that maybe internal sd is defective, made check from engineering menu and all seems ok with it.
got no more remedies, made around 50 reflash attempts today, no luck.
another idea that buggs me: could it be that app folder on internal memory is somehow not writable? what are normal permissions on internal memory folder structure?
looking forhelp - solutions or ideas. do you think that is hardware or software defective?
got some kind of warranty, but i'm not sure that i could enforce it...
Can you install apps normally though the market or sideloaded?
It could be that your backups are bad if you can install other stuff
Need a little clarification. Does your ROM after the flash run OK? If it no longer reboots on its own or hangup, doubt you have a problem with your internal SD.
I would recommend scrapping Titanium, I quit using it and started using MyBackUp Pro and haven't had any issues since when I recover apps.
You could do one of several things...
1)Use the QDL tool to get back to a stock ROM, then flash StreakMod and then StreakDroid 1.9.0 and see what happens.
2)Try replacing the internal SD with a 4GB class 10 which will improve performance and do away with the trouble if that were the problem
3)Use the QDL tool to get back to stock ROM and send it in for warranty if all else fails
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Can you install apps normally though the market or sideloaded?
It could be that your backups are bad if you can install other stuff
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No, i can't install via market. When i connect to market, it instantly start to download updates (Gmail, Maps etc.) and, when downloaded, it will start installing, and progress will endlessly be stuck on start...so basically same thing like manual install or Titanium recovery.
dmandic said:
No, i can't install via market. When i connect to market, it instantly start to download updates (Gmail, Maps etc.) and, when downloaded, it will start installing, and progress will endlessly be stuck on start...so basically same thing like manual install or Titanium recovery.
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Ok, you do understand that if you are allowing the market to install all the updates you had on your phone before, it could take a considerable amount of time, and may seem to get stuck. It doesn't download and install one by one, it begins downloading everything you had in your market account (something I hate about the market), so it may be trying to install 20 or 30 or 40 apps and updating others that are part of Android ALL at the same time. It could easily take an hour if you have a hundred apps or so on your phone.
Just a comment, not sure if you have taken that into consideration.
But I doubt you internal SD is bad, if it were, you wouldn't get as far as you get without some force closes, or maybe not even boot.
Your issue is software related in my opinion. But I could be wrong.
cdzo72 said:
Need a little clarification. Does your ROM after the flash run OK? If it no longer reboots on its own or hangup, doubt you have a problem with your internal SD.
I would recommend scrapping Titanium, I quit using it and started using MyBackUp Pro and haven't had any issues since when I recover apps.
You could do one of several things...
1)Use the QDL tool to get back to a stock ROM, then flash StreakMod and then StreakDroid 1.9.0 and see what happens.
2)Try replacing the internal SD with a 4GB class 10 which will improve performance and do away with the trouble if that were the problem
3)Use the QDL tool to get back to stock ROM and send it in for warranty if all else fails
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ROM(s) working (relatively) OK. Have some FCs on some ROMs, no frequent hangups and only some reboots. Didn't have any of them for a long time because i was trying to find some solution for apps install because without ability to install smartphone is useless.
I heard some bad things of Tutanium, but i was happy with it so far, and i think that it is not his fault.
1) tried that (318 and 351 stock), and others combinations, and always ended with same problem
2) and 3) if i try to replace internal sd, then i will void my warranty
if anything else fails, i'll try my warranty, but i don't know if i'll succedd, but i'll like it better to fix it on my own, if it is software problem, not hardware
Breaking News!
Interesting turn of events: out of pure despair, i tried to flash Streakdroid 2.0 (Gingerstreak).
Out of blue, i could again install apps! I played a little, and tried to flash SD 1.9, hoping that it would be "fixed" now. But, sadly, it isn't! I still cannot install apps on SD 1.9.0! I flashed SD 2.0 again, and found that on SD 2.0 i CAN again install apps (Titanium also works, although it is basically useless because most of backuped apps and settings don't work on GB).
Here is summary:
- on Froyo builds (318, 351 stock; SimpleStreak 1.2; 1.8.1, 1.9.0 SD) i CANNOT install apps (endless install loop) and restore Titanium backups
- on GB build (SD 2.0) i CAN install apps and restore Titanium backups
This is completely puzzling to me. I though that is probably hardware fault (internal sd or something else), but if on SD 2.0 everything works, and on Froyo builds not, it seems that is some kind of software error?
I suspect on some kind of folder permissions error. Does anybody know right permissions for internal system folder etc.?
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It seems Galaxy Note also has this problem.
jager13 has posted this issue in code.google.com, so please anyone with this issue comment there so that google devs can know about it and fix it!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25563
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I believe that many of us (if not all) should have this problem.
I got so many apps installed, so many of them are installed in SD Card automatically by Android or I manually moved them to SD Card.
(In total I have ~650 app elements in Titanium Backup and keep growing depending on what I have installed or haven't restored at any given point)
The problem is since I updated from 2.3.4 to version >= 2.3.5 even to ICS 4.0.3 LP2, LP6, LPB, LPH.
Problem:
- Power On then phone will reboot after some 2-5 minutes idle and again reboot infinitely so I cannot use my phone at all.
- If I removed my external SD Card, no more reboot.
- Or if I delete some amount of .asec files in ".android_secure" folder (where the app in sd card is saved) in the external SD Card no more reboot.
- And yes, I have done many (if not all) imaginable things: re-flash, factory reset, wipe cache, fix permission, change SD Card, reinstall from market...
- And no, this is not specific SD Card problem.
There is older thread talking about this problem but the thread is about general reboot problem so it got mixed with other kind of reboot.
After trying ICS leaks in a hope that the problem is fixed I find that it is still NOT fixed
and maybe won't be fixed if not enough people complain about this problem.
And I think Samsung developers and QA don't know this issue.
It will be shame if SGS3 still has this problem. I absolutely won't buy it.
So to check this, I hope the reader of this thread to try this (Samsung based ROM > 2.3.4 only):
- Please move as many apps as you can or all of your apps to SD Card..
- Or please install as many apps as you can from market and moved them to SD Card if not already.
- The apps number is not exact (60 maybe more), more is better, maybe related with apps size too.
(I found that when my ".android_secure" folder size in external sd card approaching ~1.5GB maybe more, the reboot problem occurs)
- And then tell here that you have infinite reboot or not in idle mode 2-5 minutes after power on. Please try 2-3 times.
- Also post your ROM/kernel version, stock or mods.
- And please check that removing the external SD Card solve the reboot problem.
Remember that u have to be at least Samsung based ROM version 2.3.5 because this problem is side effect (2.3.4 and earlier does not have this problem).
For us who has this problem, please add your post to this thread to keep it alive
and don't forget to rate high so it will get attention from other users and hopefully from Samsung.
Let's make this issue known to Samsung.
And I hope that people who got firmware leaks from Samsung can tell them about this problem/thread.
List of threads mentioning same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285844
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328191
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102920
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491671
i faced exactly same problem with you, i thought is sd card problem at 1st, so i go and buy a new sd card, and the problem is still there....anyone can help us? now the sd card = nothing
Tried to replicate this problem by putting 67 apps onto sd card, but no bootloops.
On CM9 at the moment.
No issue here..
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I just found similar thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1328191
Still, my thread is to gather data about how many user can reproduce the issue..
killall said:
Tried to replicate this problem by putting 67 apps onto sd card, but no bootloops.
On CM9 at the moment.
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So it seems that this problem happens only in Samsung based ROM.
It is great that CM9 does not have this issue.
BigMrB said:
No issue here..
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May I know which ROM/kernel u use?
Are u using Samsung based ROM > 2.3.4?
I have this bad problem. I posted about this problem on old topics and how to remove this problem by return to old firmware with android 2.3.4.
Thank you for opening this thread because It is I think a general problem and the big problem that its happened with ICS. I tried and tried to solve this problem without success but I found that this problem start faster after transfer small size apps.
This problem must be solved, because we need to transfer apps to SD card.
Thanks again dragon135
i can confirm i am another user who had no issues at 2.3.4 upgraded to ICS LP2 this evening and now have this problem! not cool....
Ok flashed lp6 and so far so good
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I have had the same problem with the following Samsung Android versions:
2.3.5
2.3.6
I have a SGH-I777 (AT&T Galaxy S II).
I have tried several class 4 and a new class 10 made by Samsung. Same results.
After using App2SD and after moving several apps to SD, the device will eventually reboot right after the SD scan completes.
Removing the SD is the only way to fix this. You can reformat the SD card but the problem will eventually occur when you move several apps to the SD card again. I have been unable to identify a particular app that triggers this reboot.
i have the same problem with my lg o2x. no solution??
exactly the same issue with my Captivate
I moved more than 100 APPs to SD recently. It worked fine with Froyo. The only problem I had is the icon disappearing issue. After switching to GO launcher, everything worked fine. Today I upgrade my phone to GB (KK4, 2.3.5), and started to have the same problem. I have to unmount my SD card to keep my phone away from rebooting. With my wife's card, only data on it, my phone had no issue. Once I put my card back, it starts again.
I can confirm. This issue exists and NOT just samsung firmware. i had the same issue running MIUI. When there are too many apps (my count is 264 apps) the phone will boot, the back of the phone will get really hot and then within 2-3 minutes of booting reboot again to the same unlock or home page screen. And it will keep doing it until your battery is dead. it also drains the battery like crazy!!!
Seriously wtf?
Is there a way to move those APPs back to phone? This is really annoying.
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dredgd said:
Is there a way to move those APPs back to phone? This is really annoying.
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yes, just cut some .asec-files (as many as it needs) from the .android_secure folder an paste them into another folder, so that the phone won´t reboot anymore.
the apps according to the .asec files now won´t be shown in appdrawer.
than you install gemini app manager and move the smallest (if you have not much space on phone) or just some other apps you want back to phonememory. after that you can put the .asec files back in to the android_secure folder, so that those apps appear again in app drawer.
if phone still reboots: same precedure.
like others wrote, and my own experience: abourt 50 files in android_secure folder is ok, more: reboots.
or if you have backups from your apps in titanium:
put sd card in pc. delete all the small asec files, so that in android_secure folder remain only the biggest files. and not more than 50 files.
better only 40. than your phone should work again and you can restore those small apps with titanium, but before that, you tell titanium only to restore into internal memory.
this helps for me. but i really wouldlike to be able to install more apps an sd card! nobody??
wuffi123 said:
yes, just cut some (as many as it needs) from the .android_secure folder in anotehr folder, so that the phone won´t reboot. than you install gemini app manager and move the smallest or just some apps you want back to phone. after that you after that you can the asec files back in to zhe androis_secure folder. if phone still reboots: same precedure.
like others wrote, and my own experience: abourt 50 files in android_secure folder is ok, more: reboots.
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Thanks a lot. I'll give it a try tomorrow .
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LP6 and LPB still has this issue.
Another user has complain also in new thread. I update the first post.
For us who has this problem, please add your post to this thread to keep it alive and don't forget to rate high so it will get attention from other users and hopefully from Samsung.
As requested I also have this issue.
Seriously considering the downgrade to 2.3.4 despite the aggravation it will cause me.
I transfered all of them to my laptop first and then moved them back ~20 APPs at a time. But then I got the 'phone storage space is getting low' error. Trying to fix it eventually led to a 'factory reset'. I don't have backup for all of the APPs. Without all those junks the phone was very smooth and stable. Once I restored a few APPs and moved them to SD card, I was hit by random shut-down issue but no reboot yet. Finally I figured out why my phone went to sleep almost every night with me. LOL. It happened just after I moved most of my APPs to SD. WTF.
I have been researching this problem for a couple days now and have not found any solutions please hlep before I go crazy. I have been using MeanRom for quite awhile now and love it....(great rom). I had no problems all the way up to 3.2, but then I flashed 3.6 (I also flashed the new radio). Every thing seemed to work great my phone was finaly running very smooth and not having any slowdown periods. I then noticed that my ringtones on my sd card did not show up for me to choose in the personalize app. After this I found that my pictures in my gallery and music in my HTC music app dont show up. When I use my akimbo audiobook player it finds the audiobooks on the sd card fine, also es explorer shows all the music and pictures are on my sd card and can be played or viewed through es explorer.
Equipment: EVO lte, 32 gb pny sd card
Things I have done to fix this problem:
--tested my sd card and it appears to be the real thing and functioning great
--tried another sd card had the same results
--tried coping my music, ringtones and pictures to internal memory......results same problem
--tried coping my ringtones to system ringtone folder and it still would not recognize them.
--copied the SD card to my computer, formated it and then copied data back.......result the same problem as before.
--did a system wipe, and factory reset, clean install of Mean rom 3.8, 3.9, and 4.0 .......result the same problem as above.
--removed all data from internal memory, did a clean install of Meanrom 4.0.......result the same problem
--used superwipe did a clean install of meanrom 4.0.....result the same problem
--did a data restore back to previous 3.2 meanrom.....result everything (music, pictures and ringtone) work again, but battery drain is horrible.
I have spent hours flashing roms, and searching the internet for a fix and can't find anything that works please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks in advance for your help.
I had the same problem with mine on a different Rom. All was fine until the flashes based on the new OTA base. I hope someone with an answer jumps in here.
fltinstructor said:
I had the same problem with mine on a different Rom. All was fine until the flashes based on the new OTA base. I hope someone with an answer jumps in here.
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That is exactly where the problem started is when the MeanRom went to the new 2.13 base.
Had a similar issue with gallery not recognizing pics from sdcard2. Was on stock, rooted. Took phone back for secure element brick before I tried anything.
Ask me about my ability to annoy complete strangers!
So I kind of got around this by clearing everything. Doing a clean install of MeanRom 3.4 (last rom before 2.13 base). rebooted, added all my info for registering the phone. rebooted to recovery, cleared cache and dalvik, installed MeanRom 4.0 then used titanium back up to restore apps but not system data. Doing this got me ringtones, music and pictures to start working again.
Note: after installing updates to some apps in the Play store lost the SD card again. Used Titanium backup to revert apps back to pre update status and SD came back. Guessing it is an app causing problems but not sure since I had this problem even after a clean install of MeanRom 4.0 prior to installing my apps.
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So I kind of got around this by clearing everything. Doing a clean install of MeanRom 3.4 (last rom before 2.13 base). rebooted, added all my info for registering the phone. rebooted to recovery, cleared cache and dalvik, installed MeanRom 4.0 then used titanium back up to restore apps but not system data. Doing this got me ringtones, music and pictures to start working again.
Note: after installing updates to some apps in the Play store lost the SD card again. Used Titanium backup to revert apps back to pre update status and SD came back. Guessing it is an app causing problems but not sure since I had this problem even after a clean install of MeanRom 4.0 prior to installing my apps.
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Can u figure out what app it was?
When I have some time I will try and let you know.
The problem:
In CMW recovery, in internal sdcard, it only shows 3 folders.. 0/, Legacy/ and obb/. graphical glitches are a constant occurrence as well as forced closes from something as simple as changing the volume.
How it happened:
Had resurrection remix v3.1.1 installed successfully for about 2 months; download v3.1.3 for update/install, follow instructions as per given by the creator on RR website for update/install. make system backups before installing/update. install RR v3.1.3 using the same selections as v3.1.1, then after reboot; resolution is low, large text, constant "system.etc" has stopped working.
no worries, i made a system backup.. boot into recovery, internal sdcard is empty, EMPTY.
subsequently crap self, then decide to install (instead of update) from scratch RR v3.1.4 to see if it fixes issues and replaces files; successful install...ish (resolution fixed but still some graphical errors and force closing but not as many) but sdcard only shows 3 folders.. 0/, Legacy/ and obb/.
the phone still calls, texts, etc
is there anyway to restore missing files???
any help would be appreciated
Josh
Sounds like a messed up rom.
Flash something else and see.Wipe data+cache+dalvik after flashing a different rom.
Flashing a ROM or indeed a different ROM won't get the data back on your SDCard (and when you say SDCARD, do you mean external SD or internal phone memory (also referred to as an SDCard))
If your external SDCard has been corrupted your only chance is some sort of recovery/unwipe app for WIndows or, if the data is really important, a data recovery specialist.
If its the internal phone memory then I'm not sure what you can do. There certainly should be more folders than that I would have thought.
Have you looked at the structure within those folders you mention?
EDIT: My bad. I see you put internal card.
xSpeced said:
Sounds like a messed up rom.
Flash something else and see.Wipe data+cache+dalvik after flashing a different rom.
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just tried it, still the same problems
thanks though
I have recently updated to the official cm11 rom and am not having a great time with it. So i would like to go back to 10.2.
But a problem i have noticed with my device is i have been getting quite a few error messages when i try and wipe certain directories in cwm recovery. I have been told that the device is probably corrupted. For the past 8ish months i have just ignored the error messages, they have never caused any issues (famous last words i know).
So what i want to do is:
Back up all my user data
I can just copy/paste that onto my pc and then only copy back what i actually want
Back up all of my application data
The last time i tried to do this i used titanium backup, after doing a full backup it said it could only restore data from about 10 apps (i have about 200). So what is the best backup software available for the job? (preferably one that works, or is idiot proof. I have no idea who was to blame, im pretty sure i did it correct though.)
Wipe everything
Get CM10.2 reinstalled
Or possibly a new rom, i have only ever used stock and cm in the past. What is there to gain/loose from switching?
If i do go for cm10.2 where can i get the last version from? , i have a few more recent copies still on my phone but they haven't kept a recent 10.2 copy on the cyanogenmod download page.
I would like the rom that i install to be the first rom to have touched the phone. I dont want any left overs from the stock rom or anything like that. My phone has been going for 2.3 ish years and has never had user data wiped. It is filled with obsolete folders and 10 million different camera save locations (why cant they keep them the same? Not even Samsung were consistent ) so i would just like the phone to be clean again, ready for me to fill up with more garbage.
Thanks for any help,
aljowen