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So I have been lurking around here for the past 6 months, but now finally I found a problem I that was needed for me to make a question myself, thus making a profile.
(The following is a tale of me and my phone)
I recently had an xperia Arc, which i was so very much in love with, but as it goes in all love stories (of my life), love doesn’t last forever... I had my Arc running Doomkernel with KA16 rom. Oh how i loved it, just up to the moment when Chelsea and Bayern München were playing second half of the Champion League final... At some point during my drunken haze I dropped the phone and the screen (display and glass) broke off.
I took it to my dealer 3, who had it examined by Sony. They declared that the phone had been a faulty model, as the glue that held the screen was solid and not stretchy (as it should be).
3 therefore gave me the following offer: Pick one of the following phones, Xperia S or HTC one S.
Now I’m in bit of a dilemma. Because honestly I love Sony, I am a Sony fanboy with: Tv, radio, audio system, computers, home entertainment, tablets and a dead phone, so help me god.
However I have been checking up on the two, and while the XS does win on specs. The users seem to be a bit disappointed with the XS, especially with the power consumption and the matte finish being rubbed off.
So first of all: Do we have any positive confirmation that ICS, will improve battery drain?
And secondly: Would you buy a SX again if you could repick?
If you where here for 6 months and you read all the users reports... so its up to you to choose
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My choice: Xperia S without question.
gm007 said:
If you where here for 6 months and you read all the users reports... so its up to you to choose
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True but it was in the Arc forum that i spent my time
augie7107 said:
My choice: Xperia S without question.
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Thanks glad to hear that.
I'm just a bit concerned with the flaws that the XS seems to have.
My main concern is defo the battery, but the finish of the cover and the yellow tint on the display seems to be pretty widespread in some regions :/
The battery is not a problem.
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K900 said:
The battery is not a problem.
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Can you please explain it a little further? I'm running my Xperia S for a week now and can't stretch the battery more than twelve hours.
I have data always on, screen 2-4 hours (email etc.) and around one hour talk time.
To the OP:
I'll choose Xperia again if I'd have to choose.
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Kris.Davis said:
So first of all: Do we have any positive confirmation that ICS, will improve battery drain?
And secondly: Would you buy a SX again if you could repick?
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I have not seen anything about ICS and improved battery. No problems with the battery here. I get 12/24h depending on the use.
Sure, it would allways be nice with a improvement, but i would be happy if ICS could keep the current usage.
Yes, i would prob. choose XS again, mostly due to the design. In my book, the design of nature, a flying cow or a bike on fire just dont turn me on.
Yes, you can get more powerfull phones like the HoX or S3, and even with ICS. But to me the design are just to borring and mainstream.
I can't say that battery is any worse that the HTC Desire & Desire S I had before it.
As others have said, one of the deciding factors was the design - it's a very striking design and stands out from the crowd.
It's not a perfect phone for sure, but no regrets here!
zlotvor said:
Can you please explain it a little further? I'm running my Xperia S for a week now and can't stretch the battery more than twelve hours.
I have data always on, screen 2-4 hours (email etc.) and around one hour talk time.
To the OP:
I'll choose Xperia again if I'd have to choose.
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Data always on, often with WiFi though, about 30 minutes call time and a lot of screen on time (ebooks) plus Gmail and stuff syncing in the background. I can get about 20 hours.
xperia s of course.
but dont leave the store until you test it thoroughly.. the display, the bottom cap, etc.
and dont forget to give it a case. there are lot of case that'll make the XS even cooler.
and the battery seems fine if u dont play games a lot. though mine is only last for about 10 hours (3G only, syncing, im, email), around 7-8 hours with some games, and around 4-6 hours with continuous games
but i dont mind. this beauty's only need around 1 hr and 30 minutes to fully charged!
The battery last for 1-2 days and the matte on the back didn't rub itself .. mine looks like new, and I use my phone alot sometimes I charge it 2-3 times a day ! 3g + games all the time!
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But mine has the yellow tint problem . So be carefull what you buy !
The optimus g will probably be my next phone and I have a few questions that I'm hoping someone could answer for me please
1.The last android phone I bought from att(like forever ago) was restricted to where I could not install apk files out of the box. I was wondering if you can install apps from apk files or if att restricted unknown sources.
2. Does usb otg work? It's not a big deal, but I'm still curious on the status of that?
3. How's the battery? I've seen a lot of different reviews with different battery lives.
4. Lastly, how do you like your optimus g?
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1. yes it works no problem
3. so far battery pretty good
4. so far like it, just hoping for bootloader to be unlocked soon and hopefully CM10 comes to optimus
usb OTG should work for some peripherals... Not sure what the resistance is on this device so like a usb keyboard may not... Usually if MHL works OTG will with some tweaking.
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my battery life is abismal, on my second handset. To be honest, the quad core really doesnt equate to much, a little snappier for the user, my s3 was fantastic on battery life, and the camera was better too. I really am not seeing this phone as an upgrade, the only reason i got this device is that it might possibly get a quicker port of the nexus 4 rom, and offer lte.
I just got a day out of mine with 3+ hours of screen time first charge. I know it won't always be that way but so far I'm happy with it. I too had a gs3 and I've noticed a big speed increase on thus phone. I think it was a good upgrade. Better screen as well.
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Thank you all. I will be coming from an xperia x10 lol...It will be a big jump in all aspects
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My battery life is abysmal, also! Will probably swap for Note 2 this week! But can install from other sources without any issues.
Will say the screen & CPU are just awesome!
battery was crap for me the first two days. Today it has been good so far. Streaming audio off/on since 7am est.; still at 87%.
Point is that new batteries take time to condition. I'll withhold judgment for now.
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Thank you all. I will be coming from an xperia x10 lol...It will be a big jump in all aspects
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LOL, I literally replaced an xperia x10 with a LGOG, last Friday. It's a HUGE jump in performance. First battery cycle was less than idea (~10 hrs of more than moderate use), but after, I turned off a few items that didn't need to be running (e.g., wifi) and set some reasonable parameters on sync frequency, I had 30% battery, last night, before going to bed, after 15 hrs of moderate use.
AT&T gives you 14 days to find out if you like it or not. It takes several charge discharge cycles to get the anode and cathode in the battery all excited and functioning at peak efficiency. You people that rage at poor battery after a couple of days drive me crazy.
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LOL, I literally replaced an xperia x10 with a LGOG, last Friday. It's a HUGE jump in performance. First battery cycle was less than idea (~10 hrs of more than moderate use), but after, I turned off a few items that didn't need to be running (e.g., wifi) and set some reasonable parameters on sync frequency, I had 30% battery, last night, before going to bed, after 15 hrs of moderate use.
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So everything is better except the battery ?( ill probably start carrying around a backup battery to charge it with anyways) sounds good thanks
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Dr0!dFreek said:
So everything is better except the battery ?( ill probably start carrying around a backup battery to charge it with anyways) sounds good thanks
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Actually, even with wifi on all day and my work email sw syncing every minute, the battery life of this phone is better than what I got on my x10 and I'm using it significantly more.
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So everything is better except the battery ?( ill probably start carrying around a backup battery to charge it with anyways) sounds good thanks
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Battery is non removable, so if you need a spare, you may need to wait for a charging case like they have for the iPhone.
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I have progressed from an international s3 (i9300) to a Google Nexus (which I liked better even though no LTE, Google Wallet made up for that). I just replaced the Nexus, whose power button died, with the Optimus G. If I could get Google Wallet to work it would be the best of the three.
No one has mentioned the feel of the G versus the S3. It feels much more substantial and solid. The quad-core and LTE make it super fast.
Lastly, I am hoping that it will be easy to port the Nexus 4 ROM to the Optimus G leaving me with a Quad-core LTE Nexus 4.
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Battery is non removable, so if you need a spare, you may need to wait for a charging case like they have for the iPhone.
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I know that it's non removable. I meant I would carry somthihg like this around or leave it in my car http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FU6KG6/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
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What interface languages at&t device has? English, spanish, france? Or more? I mean not keyboard input languages but interface
I think this answer your question.
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I know that it's non removable. I meant I would carry somthihg like this around or leave it in my car http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002FU6KG6/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
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It will depend on the kind of use that you give to the phone and how you administer the use of the Eco Mode, Bluetooth and GPS.
I have it with Facebook, Twitter, 2 Gmail accounts, 1 Exchange account, almost all Google apps installed, watch at least 3 youtube videos (during free time at the office), texting all day long, Twitter, 4g and LTE most of the day, Wifi at home, brightness in 60%, GPS off (Except for Ingress) and I have it in Eco Mode except when I'm playing. Power Saver active at 50% and all that give me from 6am to close to 9pm (depending on the day).
The main things that drains the battery on the device (by my experience) is:
- Brightness over 75%
- GPS
- Bluetooth is a killer
- Camera is another killer
all that without Eco Mode and you will eat the battery in less than 6 hours.
I got some NFC stickers for the house, office and car, helping me enable and disable features along the way during the day and it helps with the battery a lot (only have enabled what's necessary at the right place).
Hope it helps.
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I too am leaning very heavily towards the LGOG versus the Nexus 4 (possibly even the HTC One X+). I'm coming from a Dell Streak whose battery has seen it's better days (about 4-5 hours on a full charge). I definitely know I'm in for a treat as far as performance goes no matter which way I go, but I'm wondering how long it will take to get a 4.2 port on the LGOG. As a non-dev, I'm totally clueless on the process, but my thinking is that there can't be many differences between the two.
My main questions is now that it looks like the LTE radio may actually work link for the N4, is the only difference going to be the sd slot? Granted that is a huge + in the OG column, but so is software updates for the N4 if it's going to be a difficult port. I know that this is a new phone and the bootloader was just unlocked, but realistically, what kind of updates from the dev community can we expect for this device?
DeathmonkeyGTX said:
AT&T gives you 14 days to find out if you like it or not. It takes several charge discharge cycles to get the anode and cathode in the battery all excited and functioning at peak efficiency. You people that rage at poor battery after a couple of days drive me crazy.
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Agreeing with this post. I have an Inspire 4g as well and my battery lasts for 2 days without charging, and it's the same battery I bought the phone with 3 years ago.
Stop asking about battery life and learn to condition it. You'll save a lot of money.
As far as I know, the LGOG is a FANTASTIC phone.
I've used extended batteries for my android phones years, like most users, because of very heavy usage. I am been on Wifi all the time! Got my Note 3 a month ago and I am still getting used to its huge screen lol... This is the first I’ve even heard of MPJ, mostly are positive so I give it a go. Fired the new battery up for a full days and think it definitely worth of use. Here is what I experienced with it, but only sharing my day to day usage, not an in-depth review.
There were a few times that I turned on gps (nearly one hour) while out and I usually surfing webs or streaming music (35% volume) for hours while commuting. I put bluetooth/4G/auto-brightness off. Went back home around 6 p.m and the battery remained 60%. I want to know its limit so even went out of my way to kill it by playing games etc. Next day I played heavy->moderate data and it finally die that night.
awesome review bro maybe i will order one
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CoolPyr0 said:
awesome review bro maybe i will order one
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Thanks Not sure its exact battery capacity, but at least it is manage to last 2 days of battery life depends on my usage.
It's sound good, I heard about Zerolemone will come out extended battery...
Upgraded from Xperia S to Note 3 recently, hesitates just slightly one way. Thanks for your nice review, I am looking into this battery.
Great feedback. I should give this a chance when I got my N3, thanks.
Will this gained a lot of weight?
Has anyone experienced that the phone gets warm ( between 30-42 degrees centigrade) even when doing normal tasks like browsing the Web/the screen simply being on? Is this normal? Is there a fix for this if it is not?
Thats what i hate on my Z.... so you telling me Z2 has the same issue?!
chinedu40 said:
Has anyone experienced that the phone gets warm ( between 30-42 degrees centigrade) even when doing normal tasks like browsing the Web/the screen simply being on? Is this normal? Is there a fix for this if it is not?
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You'd enjoy using the HTC One X then, normal use it easily reaches 42ºc, extended use and/or heavy use can see the phone reach 55ºc so for me, that's a welcome change.
I should be receiving the Z2 tomorrow anyway so I'll post my findings then.
I have noticed this also. I downloaded about 3gb of games and the top back of the phone got fairly hot
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I have noticed this also. I downloaded about 3gb of games and the top back of the phone got fairly hot
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If ANYONE notice back panel loosing or coming unglue, ALERT ASAP!
SkyS1gn said:
Thats what i hate on my Z.... so you telling me Z2 has the same issue?!
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Yupp unfortunately. It does cool down quickly when the screen is off though so I'm wondering whether it's a design issue and poor heart dissipation
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Take your phone to the shop. My wife had same issue with her samsung s4 she took it back in 28 days they replaced a new one
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How is 30 degrees warm? What country do you live in? Because that is a big factor.
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chinedu40 said:
Yupp unfortunately. It does cool down quickly when the screen is off though so I'm wondering whether it's a design issue and poor heart dissipation
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Water resistant coating will always trap more heat inside, maybe that's why Sony uses the slightly lower clocked SD801.
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Thats what i hate on my Z.... so you telling me Z2 has the same issue?!
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same here. mine is z1 and it got really hot even though i was just browsing the internet. hope the z2 doesn't get as hot.
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Water resistant coating will always trap more heat inside, maybe that's why Sony uses the slightly lower clocked SD801.
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I think that would be a reasonable assumption.
I guess the only question is whether it's a deal breaker or not.
Does increased temperature effect battery life at all?
I noticed this happening recently but on rare occassions. It gets hot right where the camera is located but I'm not sure if it is related to the camera or some other app. I know that it overheats when recording 4K videos over 3 minutes. The quick fix when it heats up is to restart the device so to me it is definitelty software realted.
Mine gets warm, but not got enough to be a problem so far. I'm in the UK.
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Mine gets warm, but not got enough to be a problem so far. I'm in the UK.
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Coming from the Galaxy Note 2, when my phone got warm it indicated that there was a problem. Maybe since this is part of the design, with the waterproofing at all, I'll just have to learn to accept that the phone will get a little warm.
On the plus side, it'll be good for the winter, to warm up the hands
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Most definitely.
Well i can asure you that all snapdragon 800 soc overheat and it depends on what you do,my curent device lg G2 when i bought it,it had jellybean on it whne browsing web listening to music etc it always got hot,but when plating games it was a very big overheating ,the procesor got up to 72`C ad baterry was on 42`C and i thought it was a problem with the phone but after updating to kitkat all problems with overheating where gon even in graphinc intense games it took the phone 30 minutes to heat up significantly + on a side note the battery got a lot better i managed 4 hours and 36 minutes of screen time.
Botom line its a software problem coupled with the nano coting(it blocks heat but not in a bad way that the phone will overheat from that maybe a 5`C block).
Overheating is the reason I didn't get the G2.
It overheated doing basic stuff.
It can't be fixed by software. LG certainly didn't release a fix, so don't expect one for the Z2.
When a phone has overheating problems then it will always have it, just like a laptop or any other hardware.
You'll have to deal with it.
Sensamic said:
Overheating is the reason I didn't get the G2.
It overheated doing basic stuff.
It can't be fixed by software. LG certainly didn't release a fix, so don't expect one for the Z2.
When a phone has overheating problems then it will always have it, just like a laptop or any other hardware.
You'll have to deal with it.
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Well not really my m7 used to get warm / hot with 3g or gaming up to 42c after sense 6 it refuses to go above 35c and when gaming up to 39c , so far only known phone that doesn't get hot is the m8. Imo it's tolerable for z2 to stay warmer then other devices , glass isn't the best option for cool phone + sealed phone due water resistance.
Btw yes warm / hot phones have shorter battery life due heat issues , warmer battery = faster discharge rate.
Imo if z2 gets hot only when gaming it's fine, all phones get warm but if it's crossing 37/38c up to 40+ on WiFi and normal usage I'd call that a problem. You can forget the gaming if this is the case lol , at least stable gaming without fps loss and throttle.
The overheating when using the camera is a bit of a concern, especially since that was one of the main reasons i bought the phone.
Is it definitely software related or hardware?
As if its software i can wait for a fix, but if its hardware then i'll need to swap phones
After reading other device forums seems like all the Snapdragon 800/801 devices have the overheating issue: SGS5, Z2, G2, etc.
I think it's because the new SoC is so powerful that it generates a lot of heart, especially when gaming.
Maybe the 805 will fix this. Not gonna buy a device with 800/801 because almost all of them have overheating issues.
I've had the Z2 two days now and I'm afraid my unit has a problem:
Even in normal use it gets really really hot in the back, on the upper left hand side.
Also, the battery life is really not that great, which is disappointing for a phone with such a big battery (it is barely better than my HTC One M7)
I have neither rooted it nor flashed it, everything is pretty much stock (I have disabled a few apps like facebook)
From what I understand, it is not supposed to be that way.
Does anyone have suggestions? I would prefer not doing a factory reset
Try to get a replacememt
It seems units made before mid may have commonly had majour heating issues, bugs,lag bad battery etc etc etc
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Try to get a replacememt
It seems units made before mid may have commonly had majour heating issues, bugs,lag bad battery etc etc etc
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Mine was made in the 18th week (end of april, beginning of may)
I'm not really keen on sending it back, as it probably means several weeks of delay, with the shop I got it at.
edzilla said:
Mine was made in the 18th week (end of april, beginning of may)
I'm not really keen on sending it back, as it probably means several weeks of delay, with the shop I got it at.
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Well you dont have much choice
Either stick with these unsafe issues or get a replacement
If you get a perfectly good unit back, you wont regrett the wait nor replacememt
You will find that the Z2 has an amazing battery life, the Z2 ive had hand with has lasted from 22hrs to about 49hrs with moderate/heavy usage
Device just got warm, not hot
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Envious_Data said:
Well you dont have much choice
Either stick with these unsafe issues or get a replacement
If you get a perfectly good unit back, you wont regrett the wait nor replacememt
You will find that the Z2 has an amazing battery life, the Z2 ive had hand with has lasted from 22hrs to about 49hrs with moderate/heavy usage
Device just got warm, not hot
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I'll have to think about it. I was hoping there would be software solutions for those issues (they seem related to me: something is working too hard, causing overheating and increasing battery usage)
Check for deep sleep and wakelocks if any.
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Check for deep sleep and wakelocks if any.
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Good call, totaly forgot about such
Yes check if there is any apps keeping your device awake or generaly misbehaving
Go to your power management in your settings
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Also try doing a factory reset. Mine doesn't get hot and battery lasts very long. Up to 2 days with light to moderate.
At first it was awake all the time, even with screen off, so I guess there really was a bug.
I now have factory reset it, left it overnight without charging it, lost 9%.
Is that a normal number?
I've attached a screenshot of the power management app. Can someone tell me if there's something wrong with it?
My overheat issue cam from Google image backup. Turn it off and see what happen.